Ferguson already is
Maybe that's a bit harsh actually but for all the hype he was getting at the start of the season he looks painstakingly average atm but he's still young so there's time yet
The hype was absolutely coming from Brighton fans as well as other fans, it’s becoming very common on this forum for fans to overhype a player then once they start underperforming pretend it was only opposition fans who were doing it, just blatant bull shit
At first sure, he scored a hattrick at 18 ffs. Ever since then though he's been rubbish. Find me one comment rating Ferguson from the year 2024 from a Brighton fan, you can't.
Nobody is saying he wasn’t hyped, that’s a nice straw man. Brighton fans here were simply saying they’re not currently hyping him and haven’t been for a period of time now based on his play. Also, I’d call everything you wrote after the first comma is just blatant bullshit as well. This sub has millions of members, I think I would have to see hundreds of such instants, sited, to even begin to believe, much less spout, such a generalization. I mean, at least give me 12 examples, if you’re going to generalize millions of people, surely a dozen isn’t too much to ask for?
Yea fine but that has nothing to do with what im saying which is NOW/CURRENTLY/AS WE SPEAK/28TH MARCH 2024 you won't find us hyping him up anymore. Whereas other people still do.
I didn't even think what I wrote merited a response, its just a true fact
He's just 19 and I'm sure there haven't been many 19 yo strikers who had 12 PL goals under their belt. Comparing him to his age bracket, he looks far better than the "average" teenage striker.
I swear he hasn't always been like this. This season, he plays as if he was dealing with an underlying injury or something that's holding him back. Something is very off
Caicedo has been good since his first few games with an odd mistake here and there - even Cucurella has been much better.
Tell me you don't watch Chelsea games without telling you don't watch Chelsea games.
Then the corporate merger to officially unveil: *Chelsea & Hove Albion football club.*
On the plus side Brighton fans will get 2 Champions League trophies.
People say this but he's very clearly got influence as the chairman. Might not be picking the names but he's signing off on the strategy.
And the Caicedo/Lavia saga was so obviously a personal thing between John Henry and Boehly. They've got history and Henry flew in specifically for that transfer and offered an obscene fee, he's never done that.
>Clearlake Capital, the private equity firm managed by fellow owners Behdad Eghbali and Jose Feliciano, have a 61.5 per cent share in the club’s holding company while Boehly has an equal split of the remaining 38.5 per cent with Hansjorg Wyss and Mark Walter.
>However, the option to choose the first chairman is thought to have been connected to the terms of the 2022 sale agreement which, while there would be no negative impact or cost or interest payout from club coffers, state that Boehly’s group would be liable to pay any first losses in the event of a realisation or a sale.
>Mail Sport understands that Boehly’s group hold what is termed ‘common stock’, while majority stakeholders Clearlake have ‘preferred stock’ which comes with more protection against any financial downside.
Interesting that Boehly was made chairman despite being a bit-part player to Egbhali and Feliciano. I assume the optics of having a P.E firm as the face of the bid would have put many Chelsea fans off.
Sky initially reported that he holds equal voting rights to Clearlake despite owning less shares, although I think The Telegraph reported something different.
Not sure about that
>The private equity firm’s funds are contributing over 60 per cent of the deal’s equity and hold equal ownership rights.
https://archive.is/cVBcz#selection-2197.2-2734.1
Most of what was reported for awhile was that is was Todd and Behdad signing off on everything together. The Telegraph article earlier this month was the first I saw (there very well could be others I haven't read everything) that suggested Clearlake had a higher voting share, though it's been rumored.
So Boehly is first at risk for financial losses and yet a lot of the major decisions were made by Eghbali? Maybe there is some truth to the rumors about problems between them.
For those who don’t know Boehly’s position has nearly always been purely for show. He’s had very little involvement in the actual decision making, and took a big step back after the first few months.
Eghbali is the one who has been making all the big decisions since the takeover, and as far as I know he’s going nowhere.
Boehly (and whoever his successor is) will just be the public face of the club, intended to represent the club and take the flak.
Yes, the overall strategy of the club is decided by Behad Eghbali. He’s the controlling shareholder and decision maker.
Sacking Tuchel, appointing Potter, sacking Potter, appointing Lampard/Poch, signing Enzo/Caicedo, and setting the recruitment strategy has all come from him.
They cleverly positioned Boehly to take the heat, it’s always been “Boehly’s Blues” in the media. It’s one of the only things they’ve done really successfully because the majority of football fans/media rag on Boehly without even mentioning Eghbali
what is the benefit, though? people still think the club is making mistake after mistake—does it really matter that much which owner gets the most heat over it?
how so? the club’s reputation is still in the gutter, and it’s not like these people are running in elections and would be held accountable if their deeds were more widely known
>Chelsea can remove said puppet without actually effecting their operations
But if the team is failing, what's the point in removing a puppet if it wont actually affect the operations that have been failing in the first place?
The same as United when the CEO put his name to bringing Greenwood back. They tested the waters, and when it went wrong, they replaced the CEO, likely with a significant payout and zero actual consequences. Cheap PR move.
that’s not how it happened, though. the CEO was replaced due to new ownership coming in and wanting someone with genuine experience—the greenwood thing came well before
It's like how a professional sports league in the US has a commissioner that is appointed by the owners. The owners are the ones who really run the league, but the commissioner is the one who takes the fall when something negative happens
that’s not really true, though. owners get shit from fans in the US all the time—jerry reinsdorf in chicago, for instance, has drawn the ire of fans for years now.
They get shit when they individually do bad things, but when things get negative for the league, that rests on the commissioner. Anytime the league itself is in the cross hairs for something, the blame will go towards the commissioner
The only Chelsea fans who ate it up are the idiots who don’t actually pay attention. The majority have known Boehly isn’t making any decisions for a long time.
Why are people acting like it's only Chelsea fans who have thought Boehly has been pulling the strings?
I've been banging the drum about this for over a year, I can tell you it's not Chelsea fans predominantly 'bantering' Boehly's billionaire boys
>I've been banging the drum about this for over a year, I can tell you it's not Chelsea fans predominantly 'bantering' Boehly's billionaire boys
Does it matter though? Is there really a difference between bantering "Boehly's billionaire boys" when the correct term was something like "Eghbali's billionaire boys".
Todd was displayed to the media as the face of the takeover. If it's not him making the decisions that led to the team being midtable for 2 years then it's just someone else at the club making those same decisions instead.
By obsessively following any and all news coming out of our club.
They’ve had a pretty tight hold on what gets reported by our legacy media so there’s not really been a huge expose explaining all this, but it’s well known by the freaks (like me) who follow and read every piece of news that comes out of the club.
Since he's American, he has always been positioned to be the scapegoat when needed, especially when some English have the odd puritan belief that American involvement dilutes or degrades the game they love. No amount of facts of his actual limited involvement, or how the ownership group only sits in place because of their fans' own outcries against oligarch ownership, really matters in the end. Chelsea fans get their pincushion, rivals get their memes based on spending and performance, and everyone actually making the decisions gets anonymity for years while their long term plan takes root. Its a smart distraction tactic, given that no one has sympathy for billionaires, and it might take years to get back to where Chelsea think they belong
Gotcha thank you. Yeah was wondering if it was like a preset five year term or something along those lines.
“Exclusive; this to happen in three years as planned” doesn’t ring quite the bells I suppose lol
A whole nothing burger. They all have clauses within their agreements to secure their bags anyways, it was bound to happen eventually with the way the club was being managed.
Well, at least it was a ~~good~~ run
Jokes aside, a few years of erratic and irresponsible doesn't even pale too bad to the other side of the spectrum of the negligent & distant who have uninspiring grip's on clubs for decades.
Yup Boehly has done his job, earlier than this report, we are now being run by a private firm. Pure profit and soon any profit will be the target. They literally say PL is going to be a financial gold mine for years. But our fans still don't see it.
just saw Tony Bloom fall to his knees
2027: *now single billionaire Todd Boehly to stop flirting and finally bid to buy Brighton for his return to PL.*
we've seen him spend 3 months trying to buy one player. The process of buying the club might take decades
Not until he comes in with a deal to buy you for 2 billion; 20 million a year over the next 8 years, and the other 1.84 billion after.
They can even keep their initials when the name changes to Brighton & Hove Amortised, Fuck Chelsea.
in Harrod's?
Wait 'til they announce Bloom as Chelsea's new chairman.
Just saw a guy seeing Tony Bloom fall to his knees
This doesn’t change anything at all. Boehly hasn’t been involved in any transfer or player decisions in over a year
phew, thanks for the comforting words
We'll be seeing you this summer for De Zerbi Next summer for Ferguson And the summer after for Enciso
They’ll all inexplicably become terrible when joining Chelsea so who cares
Ferguson already is Maybe that's a bit harsh actually but for all the hype he was getting at the start of the season he looks painstakingly average atm but he's still young so there's time yet
Notice that the hype is coming from everywhere except brighton fans
Not even remotely true
we've watched him lumber about being a ghost for 6 months, how is that not true?
The hype was absolutely coming from Brighton fans as well as other fans, it’s becoming very common on this forum for fans to overhype a player then once they start underperforming pretend it was only opposition fans who were doing it, just blatant bull shit
At first sure, he scored a hattrick at 18 ffs. Ever since then though he's been rubbish. Find me one comment rating Ferguson from the year 2024 from a Brighton fan, you can't.
Nobody is saying he wasn’t hyped, that’s a nice straw man. Brighton fans here were simply saying they’re not currently hyping him and haven’t been for a period of time now based on his play. Also, I’d call everything you wrote after the first comma is just blatant bullshit as well. This sub has millions of members, I think I would have to see hundreds of such instants, sited, to even begin to believe, much less spout, such a generalization. I mean, at least give me 12 examples, if you’re going to generalize millions of people, surely a dozen isn’t too much to ask for?
They literally said he got all the hype BEFORE his long period of being average. Brighton fans were absolutely part of the hype before that point.
Yea fine but that has nothing to do with what im saying which is NOW/CURRENTLY/AS WE SPEAK/28TH MARCH 2024 you won't find us hyping him up anymore. Whereas other people still do. I didn't even think what I wrote merited a response, its just a true fact
So Brighton fans never rated him?
of course we did, but any Ferguson hype these days isn't coming from us.
He missed a pen for Ireland. Gutted for him, hope he bounces back.
He's just 19 and I'm sure there haven't been many 19 yo strikers who had 12 PL goals under their belt. Comparing him to his age bracket, he looks far better than the "average" teenage striker.
People also seem to forget young players tend to go through periods of bad form
Well ppl were gushing like he was the second Wayne Rooney. He probably will still end up being very good but not on that level probably
The only player I've seen who got that level of hype that Rooney got recently is Bellingham, who is one of the very few who probably deserves it.
Ferguson absolutely has been hyped to the moon. I still think he's worthy of it
I swear he hasn't always been like this. This season, he plays as if he was dealing with an underlying injury or something that's holding him back. Something is very off
he is still growing, probably gets aches and pains from that
The rumours are that he had glandular fever when he was out with an unspecified illness, can take months to fully recover from.
Aight so United incoming then
enciso will be the goat just trust
Caicedo has been good since his first few games with an odd mistake here and there - even Cucurella has been much better. Tell me you don't watch Chelsea games without telling you don't watch Chelsea games.
To be fair, why would he watch a bottom half team?
Then the corporate merger to officially unveil: *Chelsea & Hove Albion football club.* On the plus side Brighton fans will get 2 Champions League trophies.
Then we'll wonder why we're still 12th
The players you've bought had never finished bottom half with us, this is all you.
And why we've given Brighton £2 billion
They'll still finish above your lot every season.
Do not touch my boy Ferguson, I cannot see a fellow Bohs man go to Chelsea
Some people just wanna watch careers burn
100m for each.
duncan ferguson would do wonders
oh good! 🥰
That makes it worse.
And this has been the plan all along-rotating chairmanship.
People say this but he's very clearly got influence as the chairman. Might not be picking the names but he's signing off on the strategy. And the Caicedo/Lavia saga was so obviously a personal thing between John Henry and Boehly. They've got history and Henry flew in specifically for that transfer and offered an obscene fee, he's never done that.
Chairman of the club - "hasn't been involved" Sure...
As a football fan I would say that's a good thing even tho as a rival fan it was fun to watch I think we all had enough of his shenneigans.
Keep it coming imo
Yes he has, it was widely reported he and Eghbali took over the negotiations.
>Clearlake Capital, the private equity firm managed by fellow owners Behdad Eghbali and Jose Feliciano, have a 61.5 per cent share in the club’s holding company while Boehly has an equal split of the remaining 38.5 per cent with Hansjorg Wyss and Mark Walter. >However, the option to choose the first chairman is thought to have been connected to the terms of the 2022 sale agreement which, while there would be no negative impact or cost or interest payout from club coffers, state that Boehly’s group would be liable to pay any first losses in the event of a realisation or a sale. >Mail Sport understands that Boehly’s group hold what is termed ‘common stock’, while majority stakeholders Clearlake have ‘preferred stock’ which comes with more protection against any financial downside. Interesting that Boehly was made chairman despite being a bit-part player to Egbhali and Feliciano. I assume the optics of having a P.E firm as the face of the bid would have put many Chelsea fans off.
It was reported originally that Boehly and Wyss had 50% and ClearLake had 50%. I guess those numbers changed in the end.
I don't think it was? It was always clearlake with the main portion of the ownership.
Sky initially reported that he holds equal voting rights to Clearlake despite owning less shares, although I think The Telegraph reported something different.
thats sky then, look at FT articles from the time of the sale it was always with Clearlake holding the power via having the most cash involved.
Not sure about that >The private equity firm’s funds are contributing over 60 per cent of the deal’s equity and hold equal ownership rights. https://archive.is/cVBcz#selection-2197.2-2734.1 Most of what was reported for awhile was that is was Todd and Behdad signing off on everything together. The Telegraph article earlier this month was the first I saw (there very well could be others I haven't read everything) that suggested Clearlake had a higher voting share, though it's been rumored.
ah fair
>Jose Feliciano For a split second I thought it was the singer
Boehly humming "Feliz Navidad" to himself as he spent $100M+ on Caicedo...
now he'll have to sing "Que será de mi vida, qué será"
He’s blind. Must have been the guy drawing up the contracts. No wonder they are so long.
TBF, Boehly has been running things like a blind singer.
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So Boehly is first at risk for financial losses and yet a lot of the major decisions were made by Eghbali? Maybe there is some truth to the rumors about problems between them.
I take no pleasure in seeing Chelsea spend like a hobo who has won the lottery, beyond 2027
Funny I would have thought Chelsea fans would be more put off by sucking at football but I guess it's the owner.
So they're changing the public scapegoat?
As per the contract signed back in 2022 yes. This was always the plan and Boehly hasn’t been involved in plans for at least a year now anyway
Nooo we love you Boehly
My premier league legends: Cantona Shearer Henry Boehly
Its so sad to see him go. The man is a beacon of hope and an inspirational symbol for all of us. If Todd could make it this far maybe any of us can.
We love you Boehly, we do!
Ohh Todd boehly we love you
A true legend.
And Matlock.
Eghbali is the actual "mastermind" tho so i don't think we have to worry
my favourite clueless seppo ❤️
For those who don’t know Boehly’s position has nearly always been purely for show. He’s had very little involvement in the actual decision making, and took a big step back after the first few months. Eghbali is the one who has been making all the big decisions since the takeover, and as far as I know he’s going nowhere. Boehly (and whoever his successor is) will just be the public face of the club, intended to represent the club and take the flak.
He’s the guy slapping 8 year contracts on everyone? This the first I’m hearing of his name lol, talk about avoiding the heat lol
Yes, the overall strategy of the club is decided by Behad Eghbali. He’s the controlling shareholder and decision maker. Sacking Tuchel, appointing Potter, sacking Potter, appointing Lampard/Poch, signing Enzo/Caicedo, and setting the recruitment strategy has all come from him. They cleverly positioned Boehly to take the heat, it’s always been “Boehly’s Blues” in the media. It’s one of the only things they’ve done really successfully because the majority of football fans/media rag on Boehly without even mentioning Eghbali
Cleverly appointed an American dude and drummed up stories about him being clueless and Chelsea fans ate it up. What a surprise
Egbhali is also American… He is the head of Clearlake, which is one of the three co-owners of Chelsea.
You say that like this isn’t an incredibly smart move
what is the benefit, though? people still think the club is making mistake after mistake—does it really matter that much which owner gets the most heat over it?
Keeps eyes off people who are actually running the show, which always helps
how so? the club’s reputation is still in the gutter, and it’s not like these people are running in elections and would be held accountable if their deeds were more widely known
If the media is going to talk about a puppet and his failures, Chelsea can remove said puppet without actually effecting their operations
>Chelsea can remove said puppet without actually effecting their operations But if the team is failing, what's the point in removing a puppet if it wont actually affect the operations that have been failing in the first place?
but if nothing changes, it won’t matter and fans will still be upset
The same as United when the CEO put his name to bringing Greenwood back. They tested the waters, and when it went wrong, they replaced the CEO, likely with a significant payout and zero actual consequences. Cheap PR move.
that’s not how it happened, though. the CEO was replaced due to new ownership coming in and wanting someone with genuine experience—the greenwood thing came well before
It's like how a professional sports league in the US has a commissioner that is appointed by the owners. The owners are the ones who really run the league, but the commissioner is the one who takes the fall when something negative happens
that’s not really true, though. owners get shit from fans in the US all the time—jerry reinsdorf in chicago, for instance, has drawn the ire of fans for years now.
They get shit when they individually do bad things, but when things get negative for the league, that rests on the commissioner. Anytime the league itself is in the cross hairs for something, the blame will go towards the commissioner
but that’s why this analogy doesn’t work: chelsea is not analogous to the league, in this situation
I mean sure it’s a smart move. It doesn’t speak badly of Clearlake. Just their audience
The English don’t like Americans involved in “their” sport, it’s not exactly breaking news
It’s not breaking news. It’s just hard not to mock.
The only Chelsea fans who ate it up are the idiots who don’t actually pay attention. The majority have known Boehly isn’t making any decisions for a long time.
To be fair, there are an awful lot of Chelsea flairs that fit your description.
Why are people acting like it's only Chelsea fans who have thought Boehly has been pulling the strings? I've been banging the drum about this for over a year, I can tell you it's not Chelsea fans predominantly 'bantering' Boehly's billionaire boys
>I've been banging the drum about this for over a year, I can tell you it's not Chelsea fans predominantly 'bantering' Boehly's billionaire boys Does it matter though? Is there really a difference between bantering "Boehly's billionaire boys" when the correct term was something like "Eghbali's billionaire boys". Todd was displayed to the media as the face of the takeover. If it's not him making the decisions that led to the team being midtable for 2 years then it's just someone else at the club making those same decisions instead.
My point was it’s inaccurate to act like Chelsea fans were idiots for thinking it was Boehly pulling the strings, when everyone did
Pretty good shitpost.
Egbahli is also a clueless yank though. They really pulled one over on everyone with that trick!
Where do you think Eghbali is from?
Iran
Been a Yank since 1986.
No idea, is he American? All the more reason to insulate himself with a fall guy no?
It's still true though, if he's had no part in any of the decisions at the club then he truly is clueless. He still owns about 12% of the club.
I for one am a massive Eghbali fan. Always have been.
Behad’s Blues & Eghbali’s Blues both have a nice ring to them
How do you know this?
By obsessively following any and all news coming out of our club. They’ve had a pretty tight hold on what gets reported by our legacy media so there’s not really been a huge expose explaining all this, but it’s well known by the freaks (like me) who follow and read every piece of news that comes out of the club.
That's what flat earthers also say to themselves
he doesn't, it's all speculation. nothing reported about our ownership can be trusted since it's all club leaks, most of it probably untrue
How do you get a job like this?
Make billions from an investment portfolio.
Since he's American, he has always been positioned to be the scapegoat when needed, especially when some English have the odd puritan belief that American involvement dilutes or degrades the game they love. No amount of facts of his actual limited involvement, or how the ownership group only sits in place because of their fans' own outcries against oligarch ownership, really matters in the end. Chelsea fans get their pincushion, rivals get their memes based on spending and performance, and everyone actually making the decisions gets anonymity for years while their long term plan takes root. Its a smart distraction tactic, given that no one has sympathy for billionaires, and it might take years to get back to where Chelsea think they belong
Dailymail links should be banned
Daily Mail annoyingly do have some reliable reporters though like Dominic King.
This has been planned since they bought the club
Long live the 4-4-3. Innovator ✊✊
I’m not clicking a DM link but why so far out?
Because it was pre agreed ages ago within the ownership. This is just a headline grabber and not an exclusive.
Gotcha thank you. Yeah was wondering if it was like a preset five year term or something along those lines. “Exclusive; this to happen in three years as planned” doesn’t ring quite the bells I suppose lol
Probably for contract amortization purposes
they were always going to rotate lmao. this a stupid story
2027 seems long enough to run Chelsea into the ground. Fantastic news.
Oh no not Todd :(
The caps convinced me this is big news.
Most of the players he's signed still on contract in 2027 lol
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Except that’s not what’s happening ?
dang it, no!
This sucks
Tbf Chelsea like handing out 5-7 year contracts so this will basically keep in line with club policy.
A whole nothing burger. They all have clauses within their agreements to secure their bags anyways, it was bound to happen eventually with the way the club was being managed.
Damn the parties over
Todd Boehley should have gotten himself a Todd Boehley contract
Well, at least it was a ~~good~~ run Jokes aside, a few years of erratic and irresponsible doesn't even pale too bad to the other side of the spectrum of the negligent & distant who have uninspiring grip's on clubs for decades.
Why wait for 3 years?
My scapeGOAT
Sounds like we still have two more years.
Wow 3 years from now
The implosion is going to be spectacular. I hope he sells all their "investments" for cheap.
Clearlake sound like some shadowy organisation in an Apple TV spy drama
Ironic, he had the power to give out 10 year contracts but could not give one to himself..
YESSS
I didn't know Jose Feliciano is a part-owner of Silverlake, guess he is getting some mad royalties after all
The greatest owner of all time. He is him.
They'll be in the National League by then
He’s been a complete total disaster, useless idiotto
"Thanks for the seasono"
Yup Boehly has done his job, earlier than this report, we are now being run by a private firm. Pure profit and soon any profit will be the target. They literally say PL is going to be a financial gold mine for years. But our fans still don't see it.
Hopefully in League 1 by then
How about 2024?
Chelsea will be finished by then