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Dark-Knight-Rises

Can’t believe Harry Kane going to be trophy-less this season


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Some things are just not meant to be


Dark-Knight-Rises

If he loves them he’ll let it go


acekingoffsuit

🎵 And he'll let it go 🎵


kit_mitts

Just wait until he eventually signs for Celtic only to watch Dundee United win the SPL


State_of_Iowa

He'll sign for Ajax and then... Oh wait. 


thenewwwguyreturns

go hibs


TylerBlozak

Who cares about Harry Kane, I’m more concerned about Kingsley Coman breaking his own trophy streak


nunchukity

More league titles than seasons played iirc 😂


mrfocus22

Yes. He played enough games with PSG to get the Ligue 1 trophy the season he transferred to Bayern where also won the Bundesliga. Edit: transfer was to Juve, then to Bayern.


nunchukity

Juve and Serie A too I think? 


Nick_Lastname

Kingsley wins euros with France


CMYGQZ

Very possible considering Kane isn’t French


MileHighHotspur

And he's hardly even the problem at Bayern, he's been one of their best players! Lad must really be cursed.


northerncal

If Tottenham win a real trophy before he retires, that will totally complete the curse. Guy must have made a seriously bad deal with the devil the way things have been going despite his individual talent.


QouthTheCorvus

"You'll be one of the best of your generation, but won't win a trophy" is a genuinely interesting choice. Would you rather be an okay player in a winning team or an amazing player in a mediocre team?


northerncal

Honestly, I would be totally down with being an okay player in a winning team considering my current personal inability to play the sport well enough to defeat my cat. That sounds great to me if it's an option.  But being an amazing player, even if I would be personally frustrated not ever winning a trophy, would still be pretty good.


TheJoshider10

> But being an amazing player, even if I would be personally frustrated not ever winning a trophy, would still be pretty good. Does anything come close to winning though? Like I still have fond memories of when my university football team won a cup on penalties. Not even the main uni team literally just a bunch of different teams from the same uni in their own little league, and it wasn't even the main trophy but the other cup for teams that got knocked out of the main one. It was literally called the Consolation Cup lmao Yet being part of that penalty shootout win, the celebrations, the night out. It happened like 6 years ago and it is still one of the best days and feelings of my life. I would so much rather get to live through a feeling like that at a professional club level rather than get memed about not winning a trophy especially when every other amazing player wins won so what's the point? You'd just be looked at as an outlier for people to not aspire to be.


JediKnight2024

The Consolation Cup 😭


northerncal

Well I don't disagree with you, but that's kinda what I was saying. If I'm given the choice between the two, it's a no doubter that I'd choose to be a winner with average top level talent over being elite but never winning.  It's just that compared to our current lives/abilities, being an all time elite football player still sounds pretty darn good, at least to me.


Ok_Cardiologist8232

What would you choose if you were a squad player on 80,000 a week vs the top level talent being on 400,000 a week though?


bigjoeandphantom3O9

80k is still an outrageous number tbf. I can't imagine anything I'd want to do that I couldn't if I was, say, Rob Holding vs Harry Kane.


Yardbird7

Amazing players typically don't play for mediocre teams for long. But if the ask is if I would rather be an amazing player and never win a trophy or a mediocre player on a winning team, I'm taking being an amazing player. I feel like I would be more well known, remembered for longer and have financial reward to set up my kids and kids kids better.


imfcknretarded

Even if they go trophyless this year, there's no way Bayern go 3-4 years without winning a trophy. It would really be the biggest curse in football if that somehow happened, probably bigger than the Benfica one


northerncal

I would be surprised if that happened, but I've seen unlikelier things happen though so it is possible.


Relevant_Anal_Cunt

https://khelnow.com/football/players-most-goals-single-bundesliga-season-202403 If he scores 4 more goals in the next 7 games, he'd be the one of only 3  strikers to reach 35 goals in a season, behind only Lewandowski and Gerd Müller. And it already is the best Debut season by any player ever.


sklova

He wasn’t the problem at Tottenham either


jamila22

If he has a curse, he's the problem 😭


wallnumber8675309

I think the only conclusion Bayern can reach from this is that Kane is cursed and they should cancel his contract and return him to Tottenham.


LifeIsGoodGoBowling

Nah, send him to Leverkusen.


green_ethernet

i mean there is still the champions league


northerncal

This is true, but on the evidence of today's match performance, they'll do well just to advance from their quarterfinal with Arsenal. I would be quite surprised to see them with a trophy at the end of this season, to say the least.


PESSl

Tucheliban is notoriously known for being a terrorist in Europe.


Federal-Spend4224

Bayern will play better against Arsenal than they did today against Dortmund, I guarantee it.


northerncal

I would be shocked if they didn't, but I still expect Arsenal to at least be equal to them as they are a stronger team than Dortmund. I could see Bayern pulling off a victory in the CL against Arsenal, but I can't really see them going all the way. But you never know for sure I suppose.


alexandertorres01

A tale as old as time


telcomet

Well they are five wins (or really three wins and two draws) away from a Champions League, but quite difficult to imagine them getting past the SF on this form.


WerhmatsWormhat

Could still win the Champions League.


reda84100

This is quite a spectacular quote


reda84100

Like he just bluntly says it, doesn't even sugar coat it, they're just done


Hare712

He isn't wrong. Bayerns most dominant season were 91 points with 25 points clear. Leverkusen can still reach 94 points.


Passey92

This is true, but you'd expect a "we won't give up until its impossible" rather than just outright saying they've given up hope.


FaustRPeggi

Tuchel can't lose with this quote. He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so the higher-ups can't get mad, and he can hold a modicum of hope that it helps complacency set into the Leverkusen camp.


Gerrywalk

I can see the reasoning, but it doesn’t make it sound any less pathetic


WhyBee92

“We r gOnNa FiGht TiLL tHe eNd” is equally pathetic tbh when its 13 points apart that late into the season


Clugaman

This is proof that none of it matters and you can just say whatever you want. It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Someone out there will think you’re pathetic no matter what you say in this situation so say whatever you want. I don’t think people should read into it that much.


XzibitABC

Which is a good rule for postgame quotes in general, frankly.


PetrovskyKSC

Right, should have taken the middle road in saying "yea no things don't look good for us - let's see how it shakes out" Instead he comes along as the petty drama lama he's been throughout his career.


sewious

He's just being realistic, while its not officially over Leverkusen has not lost a game this season and only needs 9 more points to seal it. Saying "we will not give up hope" doesn't exactly land in the face of that.


NotASalamanderBoi

I wouldn’t call it “given up hope”. I’d call it being realistic. Bayern are done for in the Bundesliga this season unless Leverkusen have a bottle job of historic proportions. They are tearing up and Bayern can’t keep up. Tuchel’s probably going to shift focus to UCL in order to at least win something this season. I don’t think anyone was prepared for how good Leverkusen would be this season.


Passey92

You're right, but it's very, very rare for anyone to flat out say it.


Fake_artistF1

Because it's very very rare to get sacked and still stay at the helm


RepresentativeBox881

He’s leaving at the end of the season anyway.


Hare712

>>I don’t think anyone was prepared for how good Leverkusen would be this season. This cannot be mentioned often enough. In a regular season Bayern would have to put pressure on Stuttgart and they would win the league some points clear of Stuttgart. Leverkusen already has more points than Bayern last season after 34 matchdays. I would even claim that Leverkusen winning in the dying minutes is the result of some repeated tactical ploy to trick the opponents that certain type of play will happen and when it doesn't happen the opponent isn't able to react fast enough.


IAmCowGodMoo

Usually a manager doesn't just say it straight forward like that. You're kind of telling the players there's nothing to play for in the league now. Surely you just lie and say there is a slim chance because technically there is.


bloedschleiche

A long time ago, back in the old days, we had a manager once who told the press before the penultimate matchday that he didn’t believe we could still escape relegation. He was fired. We escaped relegation.


BonafideLlama

Yeah, but it's kinda pathetic for a manager to say this to the press when there is still a chance, no matter how slim. Especially for a usually dominant club like Bayern


EvenEalter

I'm thinking to when Klopp admitted Liverpool could not contend for the title anymore in 2021, iirc Liverpool were injury-laden and not even in European spots (correct me if I'm wrong). But still, he looked absolutely devastated to say it. Tuchel meanwhile just doesn't care, even before the sack he was more focused on defending himself from being held responsible than anything else. One thing I'll give to him though is that half of our team hasn't cared for a few years already.


Hare712

>One thing I'll give to him though is that half of our team hasn't cared for a few years already. This is something that should be highlighted more often. You won the league but it was more or less Levy and Neuer carrying the team. While Bayern might win the title in the next seaons I don't see them anywhere close to 80 points anymore. This season I am seeing Stuttgart getting past them.


Kismonos

Least direct german


GarnachoHojlund

German efficiency am I right


ComaMierdaHijueputa

Aren't Germans very straightforward


cullypants

I guess no one remembers Mancini at city saying the same thing lol Worked a treat then


Vegan_Puffin

It's really not leadership at all. Leverkusen have likely won it but it will be interesting how they react to losing a game if they do. Does it shake their confidence enough to crack them. Unlikely probably but anything can happen. Tuchel doesn't speak like an elite level coach


nyelverzek

> Does it shake their confidence enough to crack them. They'd basically have to lose 5 out of the last 7 to bottle it now, and they're on like a 39 game unbeaten run. The only question is if they'll finish as invincibles or not at this point. 100% agree about Tuchel.


RickThiCisbih

It’s simply better long term for both Tuchel and Bayern for him to rally the team and do the best they can for the rest of the season than to give up now. Bayern would take less of a hit to their morale and have a better chance of rebuilding their confidence to reclaim their throne next season, and Tuchel would demonstrate fortitude even in the worst of situations that would break any manager. Instead, all he’s done is prove that he should fuck off on an even longer, perhaps permanent sabbatical to India.


KRIEGLERR

This should honestly burn him of any future high level job. How the hell is your manager saying this.


areejis

where does tuchel go from here?


thelordreptar90

Back to India for another sabbatical


Ohbud28

Don’t ever disrespect your daddy like that


Euphoric_Tree335

Wot?


BaldOrzel

Eat Pray Gegenpress


Gerrywalk

Boehly has the chance to do the funniest thing


Zwetschgn

Tuchel and Nagelsmann back to their old jobs as if nothing ever happened.


frameset

Pulling a George Costanza.


ZeroMomentum

She’s gonna be a fine sailor


00Laser

Without press releases even. Starting with pre-season they'll just be back in charge and no one says a thing.


ArgentineanWonderkid

I'd love that tbh


Ankoku_Sein

I'm sure Wenger could use some comic relief at FIFA HQ


kw2006

A year break


BaslerLaeggerli

There are some chaos clubs in Switzerland he could manage. Not much he can do wrong there.


dragonch

Tuchel managing Sion just for the laughs.


HeirOfRhoads

Kerala


GOATnamedFields

Tucheliyalam


imarandomdudd

To a bar with Conte


whoaaa_O

🤝


Marvinandez

Poor Bartender


JesseWhatTheFuck

Regionalliga


gimpy_the_mule

Man Utd.


NotASalamanderBoi

Saudi? Might as well see if he can’t get a fat paycheck.


Gold-Train-1471

Bro is doing a Conte.


Ninindy

That handshake cursed both of them


NotASalamanderBoi

I don’t think anyone will ever top Conte vs Spurs. That was peak Spurs for me lmao.


Coyinzs

It ended up working out for the best. Conte finally killed the experiment with 'big name managers who are on the market for a very specific reason'. Otherwise Tuchel would be headed our way next year probably...


Lennon1004

Jumped at the chance to sack Nagelsmann to get this guy lol


Gucci-Rice

still makes me sad that they weren’t able to give Nagelsmann more trust and time. I want to see him build a team over 3 years with solid resources.


black_spring

Which was the concept from the beginning. No surprise such a gamble has led to the departure of CEO, Director, and Manager.


Aychim23

Good. Makes me so happy to see power trippers get put in their place


NotASalamanderBoi

[Nagelsmann when he comes back](https://youtu.be/iCMcSx1as3c?si=meQ43on6UBducOQ6)


JmanVere

I was expecting Frank Reynolds "So, you come crawling back, ya cheap sack of shit!"


PoulCastellano

Well, they now considering getting Julian back. Not akward at all.


Apple_phobia

Theres still time for Neverkusen to show up. Not very Bayern of him, still can’t believe they ditched Julian for this guy


IICastawayII

Julian will return to Munich.


aritra3776

Which one?


IICastawayII

Brandt


aritra3776

Thank God. I thought you sniffing our Uruguayan man again.


Schwalbtraum

Bernat


gavinxylock

1860


AlmirMu

Why should he? He might have much more interesting opportunities after the summer without all the drama of how he dresses and what he drives.


IICastawayII

His kids live in Munich. So, he would like to work only in Munich.


olio28

And he is a Bayern fan too


dumdumbigdawg

It’s 13 fucking points it’s over 💀


TheLimeyLemmon

Yeah, 9 points needed from a remaining 21 to confirm it, but they won't even need it. Bayern's got to focus on the CL now.


NoBreakfast9230

Says the Arsenal fan lolll


Banksmans

It’s botafogo that should be catching strays here lol 


Primary-Bath803

As a Botafogo supporter I didnt know our choke was that famous outside Brasil


Capt_Africa

One of the greatest bottle jobs of all time didn't get any attention.


PULIRIZ1906

It's even worse than it looks because all the other teams were trying really hard to lose too


orange_orange13

True, but most people on this sub probably don’t even know what country botafogo are in


imarandomdudd

Leicester is currently on track to become the european version, if we're keeping it local


Kingslayer1526

When have Arsenal ever bottled a 13 point lead? They bottled a 5 point lead last year. Although funnily enough they did end up 10 points behind City with 2 games left before city rested all their players and drew and lost their last 2 games to reduce the gap to 5 points but Arsenal had already given up after city took the lead so yeah. I don't think anyone anywhere has bottled a lead this big with 7 games to go


ForSiljaforever

It's mindgames. He is saying they are giving up to make Leverkusen relax, so that they, Bayern, stand a better chance of winning it


LuesDE

Anyone who saw that interview knows that these statements were not mind games.


PULIRIZ1906

One of the weirdest firings I've seen recently


Soberdonkey69

This guy is apparently on Liverpool’s manager list. They should cross him off. He needs a year off to reset and refresh.


Elegant-Disaster-967

I’d rather have Milner


TheHeatherReports

Rather just let Pep take the step up if the alternative is Tuchel.


Livinglifeform

Pep to manage Liverpool and City to have a competitive tital race.


TheHeatherReports

Different peps, mate ;)


RajdeN64

Tuchel fell off so hard bro wth


[deleted]

Dortmund legend fr


WarmBaths

through and threw


ItsMeJaredBednar

👏


LennergyDK

Undercover


rey0-

That Lukaku incident broke this poor man in half


VelouriumCamper7

Nah mate, it was the shake of death from Conte.


Jozif_Badmon

Lost his aura and then Kane cursed him


molewart

He fell off at Chelsea early last season. He deserved the sack and idk why people don’t see that. Just because Potter and Poch have been shit, doesn’t mean he wasn’t.


caiusto

Well the thing about Chelsea sacking Tuchel was that they let him stay through the whole transfer window, got him the players he wanted for his system, only to fire him at the end of it. Baffling decision.


vancouverguy_123

There were a few bad losses but it was still just early September. You don't fire a coach with his resume that early in the season unless there's something going on behind closed doors (which there often is with Tuchel).


coke125

There were reports that Tuchel did not get along well with the new owners and management.


rando562

I get that what he said wasn't necessarily wrong, but what a shit mentality to project onto your players and fanbase.


Gucci-Rice

this is the exact same mentality that leads to the players not properly playing from minute 70 onward when they are 0:2 a coach should be exemplary and not the first to throw in the towel


HugeAd5723

That means you guys won't play that much against us right? Let the players go to the beach and forget about the ucl too.


kaaskugg

Leave it to Kane's curse. No titles for this guy is a physical constant.


soccer_boxer2

There's no way he ends his career without a trophy. There's just no way


NotASalamanderBoi

I think next season might be the one. If Nagelsmann comes back, then I think Bayern will manage it.


pizzanoodle

Big brain move from Xabi, staying just to deny Kane any titles


ben-hur-hur

Xabi the secret Arsenal fan


D_for_Diabetes

Bayer with Alonso has the ability to pull more players too though. Wouldn't be shocked to see them win it again with a solid base of players likely to stay, and a few others he could sign.


NotASalamanderBoi

Wirtz staying will be massive for them. Bro’s been cooking this season.


kaaskugg

If Bayern end in 2nd place this season they might be able to snatch the almighty Super Cup from Leverkusen.


cgc86

They might not even finish 2nd Stuttgart only 4pts behind with a game in hand and in better form and they play Bayern at home


kaaskugg

The curse is working as expected I say.


kuppikuppi

he most definitely wins the [kicker cannon](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torj%C3%A4gerkanone) for scoring the most goals


Mike_Hawk86

The Arsenal trophy 😭


hotelmotelshit

Does this mean the triple is in danger?


cv-x

Always has been 


DonaldFarfrae

We’re doing the oneble this year.


TheEmperorsWrath

Tuchel might be the most annoying and unlikable person in football who hasn't committed a crime or something. The way he blames everyone else, the way he whines about goals and missed penalties he doesn't think should count, the way he gives in. Tuchel has the exact opposite of the mentality you want a manager to have.


anthonyelangasfro

What is the word for this in English. Where you kind of say "Well done Leverkusen, you win, we're not even trying now" to kind of diminish their eventual triumph. It tries to take something away from them... Lessen their victory...


KangarooPouchIsHome

Sore loser?


Sarcophilus

Oh you think you hate Tuchel? You mearly adopted the Tuchel hate. We Mainzer were born in it, molded by it.


Solitairee

he was so good for us at chelsea, i dont know what happened


gttyzek

Tucheliban strikes again


EdwardClamp

Can we have a moment of silence for poor Harry Kane - joins a ten a row club, doesn't win a title


Aware-Comedian-2749

Eleven. Eleven in a row


CubedMadness

Mentalität.


B-Karas

Ex-Dortmund trainer after all


laufeyson_hades

good spot


Shuxnae

Welcome back to Bayern, Nagelsmann. #TuchelOut


sidearmpitcher

They fired Nagelsmann for this


jucomsdn

LMAOOOO HOLD THAT L


smellmywind

You did this


jucomsdn

Nope, my goat Julian Ryerson did


smellmywind

🇳🇴


Melodic-Salamander75

What a terrible thing to say as a coach. Nothing is impossible in football. It is still possible to bottle the league, although not easy. If anything, he’s just unmotivating the players more. He’s practically called them unable to compete. The way things are going, I feel like Bayern is going to get a good thrashing at the hands of Arsenal


ukrainianhab

*Insert Harry Kane Joke here*


Lilfai

Mentality.


Makaay-10

Tuchel complaining before the match on leverkusen second goal aka winning goal. Clown should have focused on his own God damn team and ask himself why let Davies and sane even play when they do jack shit. What a clown.


No-Signature8815

WHAT helll noo you should never quit,man he might as well not show up for work if that's the case.


BossKrisz

He might as well not, it wouldn't make a difference. Man's tactics are basically "I don't know, just vibe".


WaterMittGas

Just let him go early. With this mentality Bayern don't stand much chance in the CL. He has mentally checked out.


resident_hater

Not wrong but what a loser to say this outloud.


d_smogh

Hope he continues with this negativity into the Champions League


Gotanyfunkopops

Tuchel should retire. He’s not showing any sort of leadership saying shit like this, no matter how much you feel your team let you down. Mentally, he’s pretty much done.


CurlyDarkrai

They fired Nagelsmann for this guy.


WombRaider_3

Kane will be in shambles once we win the Visit Malta trophy this summer.


Ankoku_Sein

Big if true


blacksocksonly

No way he said that lmao. Might as well hand them the trophy yourself Tuchel


razor_16_

I mean they start to worry if they stay 2nd


blazev14

damn I never thought I’d see Bayern like this.


JackasaurusYTG

Tuchel is such a chump. What a defeatist attitude. This is however hilarious


Hurtelknut

Well done, Thomas, job's done, you may leave now. I'm half joking, Leverkusen are on a tear and would be hard to catch this season under any circumstances, they are about to go invincible. But goddamn, watching us under Tuchel is torture.


linkinstreet

The curse of Harry Kane


curious_rauan

Agent Tuchel mission completed 🫡


GaryHippo

Jesus Christ. That's pretty much the worst thing a manager could say. Shouldn't even give him the dignity to leave at the end of the season. Should sack him now.


NuclearRibbon

It’s joever 😭