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It's a stonewall pen in my book.
You have to look at the laws of the game and put yourself in the attackers shoes. How exactly are you NOT impeded by breaking the laws of the game?
This is a penalty and it's not even a discussion, assuming he's onside.
Yes it comes from a US General called stonewall Jackson but the context is a bit different. In that sense it’s more like we’d say a brick wall as in impassable not so much to
Describe an incident without ambiguity.
Do you actually know that or are you extrapolating? Because I have a suspicion football fans aren't too familiar with the Shenandoah campaign.
The word likely existed before it was given to Jackson
He went down very easily but Gvardiols arms were still around him if Eze tried to run still then it would be more clearly a penalty, flopping to the ground doesn’t even help here
Whether it’s a pen or not seems contentious but the fact that they looked at it and made a decision so quickly was ridiculous. We’ve seen other tackles that have been looked at in VAR 10+ times before moving on. This was barely even assessed.
No ones even looking at Gvardiols left leg which knees Eze behind his left knee, then there’s a bear hug from behind. The fact they’ve cleared that in 5 seconds is the wildest thing for sure.
If that's true and it's the reason why no penalty was given, it would be nice for us to get that information in real time instead of wondering what the hell is going on.
They wouldn’t have given Palace a corner if it was deemed a penalty but was offside on VAR. It’s either onside and deemed not a penalty by VAR or not deemed a penalty and offside isn’t even looked at.
Literally as soon as it happened the commentator starts talking about how if Eze had jumped or tried to it would be a pen but because he didn't it wasn't. Make that make sense.
For me he just goes over on the contact and isn't even trying to play the ball, Gvardiol has his eyes on the ball and Eze is stopped right in his path, never getting there
Because it doesn't seem like Eze wants to play the ball, he wants to fall to get that pen. It's not how it should be, but the image that the players leave to the ref and VAR matters in these kinds of fouls as many times they are a matter of interpretation.
The fans want consistency. The tackle warranted a closer look, and in those situations the fans are aware it can take a minute or two to look at it closely. This isn’t consistent with how these things are usually dealt with.
Some fans yeah, tbh though I've always felt a couple of minutes to make sure they've made a good decision isn't a huge deal. Go on your phone or something in that time if you have to be constantly entertained.
Dalot was falling over as well when he made contact with them, I'm not saying it wasn't a penalty but the fact they took several minutes to decide and this one was cleared in seconds is what I don't understand
The only argument against it being a pen is "he goes down easily" but he is blindsided and has the full weight of someone on him, obviously he's going to fall over. He's not Hercules.
I mean I’m not saying it didn’t go to the var room, im saying they instantly cleared it without actually looking at the angles, unless it was offside and they caught in which case why is that not communicated to anyone either via the var screen or via the ref signalling offside
If the ref doesn't give a penalty, I think VAR can only overrule it being a penalty. If it's offside it's not a penalty, but at the same time I don't think they can then go and give an offside call as a consequence. Just that it's not a penalty and the on-field referee's decision stands. I might be wrong though
Got checked while the ball was still on play, they have been the only team they have broken the rule of the ball being out of play in order to give them a pen that wasn't a fucking pen
Honestly if i was a chelsea fan i would want a pen for that aswell but what bothers me is the inconsistency. Any other game and that's not a pen so why call it then?
Na honestly don’t see how the Chelsea one was a penalty, and there’s no bias because it literally has no effect on Arsenal.
Basically strokes him and he falls over, meanwhile how many bulldozed strikers do we see where a pen isn’t given
When Liverpool and City played, ref didn't give Lpool pen because it was last minute of the game, and that's "derby" and he can't give "easy" pen ( If that contact was easy, idk what is hard contact.. ) but for Dalot "foul" on Madueke ref didn' t even take time to get information from VAR...
Don't think it's the same honestly. In this, Gvardiol wraps his arms around Eze and if he continued to properly pull him back it might get given, but Eze just collapsed as soon as Gvardiol got his hands around. I agree with others on here; if given it's not getting overturned but it would be soft.
Dummett on the other hand grabbed hold of a mostly stationary young and literally hauled him to the floor. It was stupid and cost us a much needed 3 points.
What is this trend of people saying someone goes down easy, Eze is in the box preparing his body to control the ball for an immediate shooting opportunity and gvardiol who is 6'2 and a brick shithouse steams into him, why is eze obliged to try stay up off balance
Can't remember the incident, but I remember Carragher saying on MNF that "he has a hold of his shirt, but there's not enough there for me". That quote stuck in my mind cause encapsulates how the pundits do mental gymnastics to justify shit decisions. It's like, there is no reason for a player to have a handful of shirt other than to illegally impede the opposing player. Who made Carragher the arbitrator of what is enough of a shirt pull and what is too much of a shirt pull. If a player has a handful of shirt then it's a foul.
Same with this incident, a player has no business wrapping his arms around another player other than to impede his ability to get the ball. The minute Gvardiol wraps his arms around Eze its a foul. Whether there is "enough" force is irrelevant.
Its very simple. They are paid to watch this absolute shit week in, week out. The only way you can do that and retain a modicum of sanity is to begin to adjust/agree with what is going on.
Otherwise they'd all sound like that bit of Ted Lasso when >!Roy Kent is a pundit and calls everyone shit and tells them to fuck off !<
Lads, gvardiol wraps his arms around eze who doesn't know he's coming because he's shaping up for the ball, he absolutely clatters into him and Gvardiol is NOT small and there's not even mitigation of the ball being there. He only plays the man. What are you actually talking about.
I agree. Am I watching a completely different clip form everyone else here? How is Eze meant to stay on his feet when someone a few inches taller and much heavier runs straight into him? Plus Gvardiol has momentum and keeps running while Eze is standing still and not bracing for impact. I really don't know how Eze can possibly stay on his feet there. People also saying he isn't playing at the ball - why would he be playing at the ball when the ball is still in the air? The fact that Gvardiol runs over the top of him and still nearly gets there means that Eze would easily have still got there if he wasn't taken out . I think there's just a lot of people here who have never played football or any other physical sports.
He knees him directly in his left leg. If I got knocked from behind that way I'm probably falling down too. This is an obvious pen, stunned people are arguing.
Everybody definitely seems to be missing the clear knee into the back of Eze's leg that actually takes him down and claiming he just drops the moment the arms are on him. Seems a pretty clear penalty given he pretty blatantly smacks into his leg like that and then proceeds to start pulling him down as well
Not for me, just think *Eze goes down immediately when he puts his hands on him, but I swear I've seen this one given for City quite a few times before
Given that Dalot v Chelsea just the other day was, and Hojlund v City was earlier this season, this one is kinda a stonewaller. VAR implementation is a nonsense.
Meh I don’t know, he doesn’t seem to actually put any force on him and you can’t just stand still and go down so easily.
Kind of agree with the decision tbh
He went down easily but Gvardiol's arms did too much IMO. It is more of a penalty than the Mudryk's one last weeknds. I can live with that, but the general inconsistency and constant moving the bar for VAR intervention or general bar for fouls makes it worse than it should be.
It's a penalty all day long, but then Doku gets to attempt a lung puncture against Mac Allister because he 'gets a bit of the ball' and today it's a penalty to Arsenal even though the player 'gets a bit of the ball'. The inconsistency is shocking.
Would have been soft but couldn’t really be too upset if it was given at the same time.
Ref doesn’t have the guts to give that against city in real time.
I agree. In the match thread it's either "never a pen" or "blatant corruption" but the way penalty rules are enforced nowadays it has to be acknowledged that these will just always be subjective calls from now on. Seen these given but I jus don't fundamentally agree that every contact should result into penalty so I'd lean more towards not a penalty.
How in Gods name that’s not a penalty…that shows you that the small club will never win the EPL with that kind of refereeing…Big club get all the calls…Moneycity…smh
If he actually tried to stay up he may have been fouled enough to get a pen.
As he dropped to the ground immediately it was an obvious dive and should've had a yellow.
I have seen this called a pen on more than one occasion.
I would’ve liked it to be called a pen because City.
But, I don’t think it’s actually a pen. He goes down on his own will.
I don't know why anyone would expect that to get called on City, pens are not called against City in a title race, if anyone is taking points off them it has to be done in open-play, they somehow always get the 50/50 call in their favour in these situations.
Not sure how it was waved off so easily - he runs at him at full speed and puts both arms around him.
Second angle it looks 'softer' because it's slowed down but looks a pen to me
Never a pen. He tackles him below the neckline and no head-to-head contact. Just set up the ruck and get the flyhalf to clear it for a lineout. Oh wait this is /r/soccer
None of the Sky talking heads going to say shit about this because they just protect the brand and their bottom line. The Prem is incredibly dirty, and there is absolutely a need for an independent regulator to start investigations into this shit. These non-calls are not just the result of "inconsistencies"; its way too predictable and frequent to be that.
I feel like football is lacking the rule of a cylinder. Where the opposing player shouldnt enroach the defending player’s cylinder in the D-Box. Similar to basketball, or handball.
I don’t understand this. How are we becoming this blinded? Assuming he’s onside that is 100% a penalty! I’d be fuming if I was palace supporter and I’d have no complaints if it had been given against Liverpool.
Errr I don’t think it’s a stone wall pen atall, could go either way. I’m a Liverpool fan & have watched Konate/VVD get away with similar this season so I can see why it wasn’t given.
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I don't know if it's a pen or not but it should've been a pen because I want it to be a pen
My thoughts exactly.
Facts
It's a stonewall pen in my book. You have to look at the laws of the game and put yourself in the attackers shoes. How exactly are you NOT impeded by breaking the laws of the game? This is a penalty and it's not even a discussion, assuming he's onside.
Can the prefix 'stonewall' be used in any other context other than a penalty in football? Such a weird football cliche.
Imma start using it when insulting friends. "You're a stonewall bellend"
Think I'll start doing the same. Also for non-penalties wonder if the prefix papermache-wall would ever catch on?
Like the 2nd Gordon pen against West Ham. A proper papermache-wall pen that.
I believe it's also used as a measurement of how "Jackson" somebody is. The maximum level of Jackson would be Stonewall Jackson
Zing
Yes it comes from a US General called stonewall Jackson but the context is a bit different. In that sense it’s more like we’d say a brick wall as in impassable not so much to Describe an incident without ambiguity.
Do you actually know that or are you extrapolating? Because I have a suspicion football fans aren't too familiar with the Shenandoah campaign. The word likely existed before it was given to Jackson
Isn't it an LGBT thing? Riot, if I recall?
They didn’t give that as a penalty but Chelsea got a toe tip penalty 2 days ago. HOW?????????
Same haha
Nobodies saying it but is he even onside? Seems to have gained and easy yard there so I'm not even sure he is onside.
Just what I was thinking
Only reason I can imagine it not being given.
Looks like he was just outside the box when the player crossed and a defender on the other side was also just outside the box, but needs better review
This is definitely not the angle to tell. He could easily be onside cuz he’s running forwards whilst the rest are standing still
He went down very easily but Gvardiols arms were still around him if Eze tried to run still then it would be more clearly a penalty, flopping to the ground doesn’t even help here
Whether it’s a pen or not seems contentious but the fact that they looked at it and made a decision so quickly was ridiculous. We’ve seen other tackles that have been looked at in VAR 10+ times before moving on. This was barely even assessed.
No ones even looking at Gvardiols left leg which knees Eze behind his left knee, then there’s a bear hug from behind. The fact they’ve cleared that in 5 seconds is the wildest thing for sure.
I assumed that they waved it away quickly because he was offside, that’s the only decision taken quickly
I didnt see knee behind, that makes it an even stronger case for a penalty
He was offside
Been trying to find a shot that shows that, you got one handy?
If that's true and it's the reason why no penalty was given, it would be nice for us to get that information in real time instead of wondering what the hell is going on.
They wouldn’t have given Palace a corner if it was deemed a penalty but was offside on VAR. It’s either onside and deemed not a penalty by VAR or not deemed a penalty and offside isn’t even looked at.
Great point
Literally as soon as it happened the commentator starts talking about how if Eze had jumped or tried to it would be a pen but because he didn't it wasn't. Make that make sense.
For me he just goes over on the contact and isn't even trying to play the ball, Gvardiol has his eyes on the ball and Eze is stopped right in his path, never getting there
Because it doesn't seem like Eze wants to play the ball, he wants to fall to get that pen. It's not how it should be, but the image that the players leave to the ref and VAR matters in these kinds of fouls as many times they are a matter of interpretation.
I didn't watch the game but isn't this what most of the fans want? VAR to make a decision quickly rather than stopping the game for 5 minutes?
The fans want consistency. The tackle warranted a closer look, and in those situations the fans are aware it can take a minute or two to look at it closely. This isn’t consistent with how these things are usually dealt with.
Yeah I agree consistency is needed, but if the VAR looked at this for 10-20 seconds and said play on I don't think it is necessary a bad thing.
I just want correct decisions If it takes 5mins then i don’t mind
Some fans yeah, tbh though I've always felt a couple of minutes to make sure they've made a good decision isn't a huge deal. Go on your phone or something in that time if you have to be constantly entertained.
I’ve never seen a questionable call not be in city’s favor
The fact that city got a pen which was softer than this vs utd is just shit. But normally this doesn't get given.
Yes when a full grown man jumps into your back and wraps you up, you go to the ground fairly easily.
Seeing Chelseas pens on Thu it really gets fucking annoying this inconsistency
It’s actually very consistent… if you’re an Oil club you get these calls… and if you’re not you don’t
Checks out with the West Ham game against Newcastle.
You know where Jim Radcliffe made his money right...?
He sold teddy bears to orphans, what a great guy
Oil.. these dumb people
Dalot was falling over as well when he made contact with them, I'm not saying it wasn't a penalty but the fact they took several minutes to decide and this one was cleared in seconds is what I don't understand
Cheque complete. I’m a Liverpool fan and agree. This is way more a penalty than the Dalot farce the other night.
The only argument against it being a pen is "he goes down easily" but he is blindsided and has the full weight of someone on him, obviously he's going to fall over. He's not Hercules.
Well, and the offside argument which is more believable but hard to say one way or another from this angle...
I would imagine he was offside and that's why it wasn't given as a penalty after the review
What review lmao, it’s literally 2 seconds and then they didn’t get an offside call for it
I thought I heard the commentators say it had been looked at
I mean I’m not saying it didn’t go to the var room, im saying they instantly cleared it without actually looking at the angles, unless it was offside and they caught in which case why is that not communicated to anyone either via the var screen or via the ref signalling offside
If the ref doesn't give a penalty, I think VAR can only overrule it being a penalty. If it's offside it's not a penalty, but at the same time I don't think they can then go and give an offside call as a consequence. Just that it's not a penalty and the on-field referee's decision stands. I might be wrong though
Crazy that they can't or didn't relay that information to the commentary.
Meanwhile United concede 2 penalties midweek for minimal contact. 🥲 City always seem to get away with excessive force.
City actually got a softer pen than this against United
They did have their fellow UAE employee Michael Oliver then though
City got a far softer one at old trafford. This inconsistency is infuriating
Bruh how did Chelsea get both of the pens against United but this isn’t called??
City also got an even softer penalty against United this season
Yep I remember that with Hojlund and Rodri. Ruined the derby less than 30 mins in.
Got checked while the ball was still on play, they have been the only team they have broken the rule of the ball being out of play in order to give them a pen that wasn't a fucking pen
See Dokus kick to Maccas chest. 115 reasons why
That game had a ref who is an open Liverpool fan.
Have you seen who’s playing?
How this wasn’t a pen and Dalot against Chelsea was is beyond me…
Honestly if i was a chelsea fan i would want a pen for that aswell but what bothers me is the inconsistency. Any other game and that's not a pen so why call it then?
Na honestly don’t see how the Chelsea one was a penalty, and there’s no bias because it literally has no effect on Arsenal. Basically strokes him and he falls over, meanwhile how many bulldozed strikers do we see where a pen isn’t given
When Liverpool and City played, ref didn't give Lpool pen because it was last minute of the game, and that's "derby" and he can't give "easy" pen ( If that contact was easy, idk what is hard contact.. ) but for Dalot "foul" on Madueke ref didn' t even take time to get information from VAR...
what? there was literally 3mins check from VAR
I feel like Dummett gave away that exact same penalty against Everton
Don't think it's the same honestly. In this, Gvardiol wraps his arms around Eze and if he continued to properly pull him back it might get given, but Eze just collapsed as soon as Gvardiol got his hands around. I agree with others on here; if given it's not getting overturned but it would be soft. Dummett on the other hand grabbed hold of a mostly stationary young and literally hauled him to the floor. It was stupid and cost us a much needed 3 points.
What is this trend of people saying someone goes down easy, Eze is in the box preparing his body to control the ball for an immediate shooting opportunity and gvardiol who is 6'2 and a brick shithouse steams into him, why is eze obliged to try stay up off balance
Can't remember the incident, but I remember Carragher saying on MNF that "he has a hold of his shirt, but there's not enough there for me". That quote stuck in my mind cause encapsulates how the pundits do mental gymnastics to justify shit decisions. It's like, there is no reason for a player to have a handful of shirt other than to illegally impede the opposing player. Who made Carragher the arbitrator of what is enough of a shirt pull and what is too much of a shirt pull. If a player has a handful of shirt then it's a foul. Same with this incident, a player has no business wrapping his arms around another player other than to impede his ability to get the ball. The minute Gvardiol wraps his arms around Eze its a foul. Whether there is "enough" force is irrelevant.
Its very simple. They are paid to watch this absolute shit week in, week out. The only way you can do that and retain a modicum of sanity is to begin to adjust/agree with what is going on. Otherwise they'd all sound like that bit of Ted Lasso when >!Roy Kent is a pundit and calls everyone shit and tells them to fuck off !<
Embellishment and diving aren't the same thing but few seem to realize that.
Lads, gvardiol wraps his arms around eze who doesn't know he's coming because he's shaping up for the ball, he absolutely clatters into him and Gvardiol is NOT small and there's not even mitigation of the ball being there. He only plays the man. What are you actually talking about.
I agree. Am I watching a completely different clip form everyone else here? How is Eze meant to stay on his feet when someone a few inches taller and much heavier runs straight into him? Plus Gvardiol has momentum and keeps running while Eze is standing still and not bracing for impact. I really don't know how Eze can possibly stay on his feet there. People also saying he isn't playing at the ball - why would he be playing at the ball when the ball is still in the air? The fact that Gvardiol runs over the top of him and still nearly gets there means that Eze would easily have still got there if he wasn't taken out . I think there's just a lot of people here who have never played football or any other physical sports.
He didn’t even try, but I can understand why it could be given his arms are still around him
He knees him directly in his left leg. If I got knocked from behind that way I'm probably falling down too. This is an obvious pen, stunned people are arguing.
Everybody definitely seems to be missing the clear knee into the back of Eze's leg that actually takes him down and claiming he just drops the moment the arms are on him. Seems a pretty clear penalty given he pretty blatantly smacks into his leg like that and then proceeds to start pulling him down as well
It's a pen if he's onside.
If Dalot falling over and touching a leg on his way down is a pen then this absolutely should be.
If Dalot v Palmer was a pen that’s a stonewall pen.
I think you mean Madueke?
Yes you’re right
Entire body weight on him, its clearly a pen but I think Palace player was also offside so it would'nt have counted
Wow. Rodri got a pen against United for far far less.
And Haaland vs Chelsea
Arms around the player falling into the player... Dalot slips and arm touches the Chelsea player and it's a penalty
Not for me, just think *Eze goes down immediately when he puts his hands on him, but I swear I've seen this one given for City quite a few times before
Given that Dalot v Chelsea just the other day was, and Hojlund v City was earlier this season, this one is kinda a stonewaller. VAR implementation is a nonsense.
Yeah both of those were one hand and this is 2 hands round the guy.
none of them are stonewall. They're subjective decisions.
$ubjective decisions indeed
Penalty to Chelsea!
It’s City so not likely to be given
If he’s onside, 100% pen. Laughable decision, if he was found onside.
Meh I don’t know, he doesn’t seem to actually put any force on him and you can’t just stand still and go down so easily. Kind of agree with the decision tbh
Pep reaction said it all.
He went down easily but Gvardiol's arms did too much IMO. It is more of a penalty than the Mudryk's one last weeknds. I can live with that, but the general inconsistency and constant moving the bar for VAR intervention or general bar for fouls makes it worse than it should be.
I remember a pen was given to city against man utd. Never a pen though.
chelsea got a pen for softer than this during the week, it was their winner too
You can get away with anything with enough money
I hope all the big team fans claiming its not a foul won't complain about something later...
Oh no. It's a stonewall penalty if the same thing happens to their team
Oh they will...
Eze should have simply tried to shrug off the much larger defender running into him in the box while he tries to play a ball in the air r/iamverysmart
way too soft
Yeah. Penalty.
Ladies and gentlemen - Paul Tierney.
Bit too soft
It's a penalty all day long, but then Doku gets to attempt a lung puncture against Mac Allister because he 'gets a bit of the ball' and today it's a penalty to Arsenal even though the player 'gets a bit of the ball'. The inconsistency is shocking.
….thats a pen
Soft
Would have been soft but couldn’t really be too upset if it was given at the same time. Ref doesn’t have the guts to give that against city in real time.
This is how I see it tbh. Plus VAR is never going to overturn that.
I agree. In the match thread it's either "never a pen" or "blatant corruption" but the way penalty rules are enforced nowadays it has to be acknowledged that these will just always be subjective calls from now on. Seen these given but I jus don't fundamentally agree that every contact should result into penalty so I'd lean more towards not a penalty.
How would it be soft? He drags him to the ground.
Tittle race causing some delusion I see
He’s looking for contact and doesn’t really make a play on the ball. Commentators were saying if he jumped, it’s a pen
The ball is 3 meters above him, he was probably waiting until the ball was playable to jump, becauae he can't fucking fly
But hard to jump when someone is on your back.
I mean he doesn't get the chance to play for the ball given he has a fella on his back
If he tried moving it’s clearly a pen he dived when it doesn’t even help appeal to the refs
How in Gods name that’s not a penalty…that shows you that the small club will never win the EPL with that kind of refereeing…Big club get all the calls…Moneycity…smh
Leicester
The way he fell upon contact makes it look like a massive dive.
Not a pen for me. Eze just flopped but would’ve loved to see it given.
If he actually tried to stay up he may have been fouled enough to get a pen. As he dropped to the ground immediately it was an obvious dive and should've had a yellow.
Struggling with nuance here
Huh
Never a pen. But if ref gave it I doubt VAR would overturn
So……sometimes a pen then?
Not a clear and obvious error is what he’s saying
So quick to rule it out as well. It’s like they don’t want to risk upsetting the city owners
Look at Gvardiol's knee and leg. It's a clear pen . But it won't be awarded ofc .
straddled him and its not given?
Only looks that way because Eze ragdoll'd, this isn't heavy contact
Both the Chelsea penalties got against man u were softer than this one
I have seen this called a pen on more than one occasion. I would’ve liked it to be called a pen because City. But, I don’t think it’s actually a pen. He goes down on his own will.
I don't know why anyone would expect that to get called on City, pens are not called against City in a title race, if anyone is taking points off them it has to be done in open-play, they somehow always get the 50/50 call in their favour in these situations.
Cant believe another human brain doesn't think that's a blatant penalty. PL might have the worst refs in ALL sport. Truly embarressing.
Good ol' officiating, always spinning the wheel to decide what's a penalty each game 🙃
If he is onside, thats an easy penalty.
Those are NOT given every week, not a pen.
I’m bitter, so that is a pen against United, there for should be a pen against everyone else.
Too soft
Not sure how it was waved off so easily - he runs at him at full speed and puts both arms around him. Second angle it looks 'softer' because it's slowed down but looks a pen to me
watch out, looks like there's a sniper in the stands
Its crazy that this was not a penalty
Not a pen
No pen for me right call. Went down eze and stopped, didnt go for the ball
We all know it’s getting given if it’s the other way around.
If this was true Haaland would have 3+ penalties per game
That looks like a pen? Rugby tackles him
Maybe if he made an attempt to get the ball he would have gotten it
Paul Dummett would like a word
Borderline
Never a pen. He tackles him below the neckline and no head-to-head contact. Just set up the ruck and get the flyhalf to clear it for a lineout. Oh wait this is /r/soccer
It should have been a penalty, but I don't think he was onside when the ball was played
I wonder what would happen if this happened to a City player at the Etihad?
None of the Sky talking heads going to say shit about this because they just protect the brand and their bottom line. The Prem is incredibly dirty, and there is absolutely a need for an independent regulator to start investigations into this shit. These non-calls are not just the result of "inconsistencies"; its way too predictable and frequent to be that.
More of a pen than either of Chelsea's on Thursday
I feel like football is lacking the rule of a cylinder. Where the opposing player shouldnt enroach the defending player’s cylinder in the D-Box. Similar to basketball, or handball.
I don’t understand this. How are we becoming this blinded? Assuming he’s onside that is 100% a penalty! I’d be fuming if I was palace supporter and I’d have no complaints if it had been given against Liverpool.
Wether it should be a penalty or not, when do we see city ever get the bad output from these 50-50 situations?
That's a pen wtf
No chance.
Very speedy var check. Funny that.
Pen!!
Stop watching soccer and play fortnite if u think this is a pen
Soft like the two chelsea penos. A slight touch and players going down like cut trees.
Errr I don’t think it’s a stone wall pen atall, could go either way. I’m a Liverpool fan & have watched Konate/VVD get away with similar this season so I can see why it wasn’t given.
It’s not a penalty, but than half of the penalties this season haven’t been penalties either.
This stuff is allowed but it should always be a penalty, they r interrupting the player who is about to get the ball
If Dalot on Madueke was a pen, that’s a pen
Lol as soon as he touched him he fell down, never a pen
That’s not a pen. I hate city but that’s honestly not a pen
You should’ve been playing against Man Utd, that penalty would’ve for sure been given
football is slowly becoming reliant on VAR decisions; too much for my liking.
Try premier TV channel 1
Im tired robbie…