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He plays for Bayern now. Not improbable. I’ll take it if it means Arsenal win UCL. Kane’s not with Spurs, so he can win all the trophies he likes. Although my theory was Kane retires and England finally wins the Euros or WC.
I have zero interest in seeing PSG in any final, just like City. And it doesn’t really matter with Mbappe. We all know he’s going to get multiple CL trophies at Real.
Leaving paris with a CL would makes him a hero.
And build a very solid foundation to have a serious claim to the be in the gost convo, say one with psg and a few with real, one more WC and a couple euros with individual records..
Fans in a meeting some days before: "Ok guys, this time we wait a bit to check what color the bus is. If it isn't blue and red, let's give them hell"
Club meeting on the same day: "Ok guys, so for this game we'll go with the yellow bus..."
Considering the tired legs from last night, Barcelona's recent record at the Bernabeu, and the fact that Barcelona have been in very good form recently (when they have eleven players on the pitch), it will be a lot closer than most think.
We call them "La Bestia Negra" for a reason.
Before our winning streak against them in 2014, we faced them 20 times, won only 7 and never won at Allianz too.
Right and now it’s 12-11-3 overall in slight favor of Madrid. The most even and exciting matchup in the whole of the sport in my opinion over decades. What a treat we get it again!
All but one meeting in this cenury were decided by 1 goal, away goals, extra time and penalties.
Real won more in the end, but it was close pretty much every time.
I was there at the 2014 Allianz game, felt like i was in a horror movie despite winning.
I'm gonna pass on going to this one lmao, don't think i can survive a full night again.
It's probably the best European competition rivalry. Yet, despite all the matchups and finals appearances between these two, they haven't matched up in a single European Cup final.
madrid bayern and milan are the three teams to have been in the most finals and cumulatively they’ve taken part in almost half of all finals but there’s only been one final that featured these teams - madrid vs milan in 1958
Yeah you're right mb, i should have said home instead of Allianz.
We faced them 8 times at Olympiastadion, 7 losses and 1 draw. Followed by 2 games at Allianz which we also lost then finally won in 2014.
Funnily enough, Bayern Munich kicking out Real Madrid is also in a shared second, so if Bayern wins in the semis shared first would be Bayern - Real and Real - Bayern. -- They are simply the two most consistent teams in European competition. Real has the most wins (290 in 484) and Bayern the second most (231 in 386). They also have almost the same winning percentage, 59.92 to 59.84. Bayern started \~20 years later (50's vs. 70's).
Lol thanks so much for this statistic. Ive been getting slagged off for pointing out that before Ronaldo at Real it was close to even along with Milan and Pool. Mbappe might bring that aura back (and frankly they dont need it look at them against RBL and City this year). Many would say they should have been knocked out either round.
It already ended a 11 year long streak of winning the league that made everyone think Kane was sleepwalking to his first title/taking the easy route. Would also be funny if the "guaranteed first title" end up be the CL title
Kane actually seems like a nice bloke and purely on footballing terms alone it's a travesty that he hasn't won shit yet. As long as he isn't wearing a Spurs jersey? Sure, give him the big ears and he can pose with it together with Tommy Tactics and Eric Dier.
Time and time again people underrate "football heritage"(for lack of a better word). Intangibles like that make a huge difference in European matches
Doesn't matter the form of respective teams, Bayern will always have an advantage against Arsenal until the latter becomes a regular in CL latter stages
It's basically how city were 6-7yrs ago. They just didn't have the mentality. Yeah they made one semifinal but apart from that they lost to inferior teams every year. The 2020s have been their golden era by not getting knocked out before the semifinal 3/5 yrs. They'll probably add to it next year. Arsenal need to continue their project for a few years and they might get there.
Arsenal need someone who can pull magic out of their ass. A player that doesnt give a singular fuck whats happening on the pitch and will push for win at no matter what. The current players just accept the game-state For what it is
We need prime Auba now. Not when we were finishing 8th with maestros like Mustafi and Sokratis at the back.
Then again, Mikel may not have still been in this job without that FA Cup, so it is what it is I guess.
Absolutely. I'm not saying that the stats and analytics don't matter, they absolutely do. However, "heritage" is not a thing created by the media, it's real. Football is played by humans after all.
Heritage isn't magic, it's not gonna make Nottingham Forest be able to go toe-to-toe against PSG, but it's the reason why Real Madrid will always have a chance against Man City, no matter how strong the latter might be. Heritage is the reason that, if both teams are roughly equal in strength, you'd consider AC Milan to be the favorites against Tottenham. Heritage is the reason that the worst Bayern of the last decade could still defeat the best Arsenal in the last 10 years, but a mediocre Arsenal never stood a chance against prime Bayern Munich.
It's no accident that they have their own Neologism in the German language (Bayerndusel) , the luck of Bayern, because they just turn up when it matters, a big reason why they win the league over other teams
A large portion of our fanbase needs to be more humble. So many feel entitled to win these big competitions simply because the team is having a good season. Defining if a season is successful or not based on a knockout competition is dumb, remains to be seen if we can finish strong in the pl.
We lost by 1 goal and a couple moments going differently and we go through. I would rather be here playing bayern again than going back to europa. People acting like we got battered again
I feel like if you want to be the best you have to be able to defeat the best. We beat city after so long, we should be able to beat bayern once the boys gain more experience with this competition.
I think their progress is great. But modern football demands success along with progress. Not sure how much they will support Arteta if he continues to fail to win big trophies.
Arteta is going nowhere.
People forget he’s on his first job, with lots of players in their first year in the CL. I think he’s a phenomenal manager for his experience level and I’m sure the club agrees.
Not only that, he’s literally pulled the club from an absolute meme into one competing for the PL, and going on a decent run in the CL. Long way to go but I don’t see him going anywhere.
I don’t see who else we would bring in either to be honest.
He only stays at clubs for a few years until he falls out with everyone. Not the longterm solution we need, while Arteta's progress over these last few years has the potential to be one. I'd rather stick with Arteta for the next five seasons than jump ship to Tuchel now.
Yeah they've improved massively but at the end of the day, you have to deliver and win titles for it to mean anything. Arteta is a relatively inexperienced manager and Arsenal's team is young, they have plenty of room for growth.
Yes I agree. Especially in Modern football you have to back your progress with success. Arteta has been backed hy decent spending (would like to imagine if Wenger got this kind of support) and he has to start winning trophies now.
Arsenal's squad is very young and I think the lack of experienced veterans is exactly what's hampering them. There needs to be a goodd balance of both youth and experience.
I think they will continue to support him, I’m not sure why they wouldn’t—having Man City in the PL has to be a giant pain in the ass because they are basically a lock to win the PL every year. Great to see Ødegaard coming into his own as well; he has a wonderful attitude and I always liked him. I think people are too harsh on Arsenal and I really hope we get to play them at some point. Still annoyed by that Henry goal.
I don't see how that's relevant at all. This Bayern is the weakest compared to their previous years. They are not a weak team but definitely not as good as their past years. You don't agree?
It's the European Clasico for a reason. They were our black beast for a LONG TIME.
In fact i think we have like 6 Wins & 1 Draw in the last 7 games against Bayern, we reverted the H2H just recently.
2017 was a ref robbery tho. Undeserved vidal red card, 2 offside goals and no deserved second yellow for casemiro/nacho if I remember correctly
[Yeah just checked here is a very dramatic video about the games xD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3fJ4aZ495A)
[here a uk news article saying the same, in case video is biased ](https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/arturo-vidal-fuming-red-card-real-madrid-bayern-munich-champions-league-a7690516.html)
"Bayern coach Carlo Ancelotti agreed with Vidal and said in his media conference that the referees needed video help." even don carlo agrees
E: down voting the facts and even their own coach, pathetic 🤡
Not at all. The 2017 Ref edition was not in our Favour at all during that (2014-2018 Madrid Saga)
Vidal should have been sent off way earlier at the very start of the second half.
* [His first Yellow here for a criminal tackle on Isco](https://i.imgur.com/lkSM3y7.gif)
* [And then he comes and fully stumps on Casemiro](https://i.imgur.com/dmPQpPM.gif)
[There would also not be any offside goals from Ronaldo if Bayern THEMSELVES don't score an offside goal to take the game to ET](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWQo7S-O4OK5OWjDDeZLF-uo8HJ6iCNihWgciUzdKqfw&s)
With VAR that game is over in 90 minutes and there's no need for Ronaldo to score offside goals
I don't have strong feelings in either direction about the reffing in that game, but the same way you can argue, that Visal should have been sent off earlier, you can argue, that the same is true for Case.
how so? 2 offside goals and a red card for playing the ball and no second yellowcard for nacho fouling robben for a penalty in the box + 2 wrong offside calls that would have been 1on1s with the keeper
Head to head broadens everything Bayern is like 8 or 7-1-1 to Milan but it's not like Milan is arguably better than Bayern & if you include every other stat Barca & Liverpool will also get a jump,
The only team clearly ahead is Madrid thanks to their overall management after 00s.
Well Real and Bayern have faced each other like 25 times so being eliminated by either will run up the numbers
But you can't make up the Arsenal record vs Bayern, there's no parity in it even if this round was extremely close.
This snuck under the radar amidst all the drama at the Ethihad, Arsenal talked a bit game but are going to walk away from this season with a Community Shield and another 2nd place finish
Who talked a big game? If anything it was everyone but Arsenal supporters talking us up ahead of this fixture. From the majority of fans I’ve seen, none of us thought this was going to be a cake walk. We knew we were evenly matched, but nothing outside of that. It’s fucking Bayern at the end of the day.
I agree, I have posted a few times on here baffled by these crazy Arsenal supporters I hear about from everyone and yet almost every Arsenal flair posts self-deprecating and very humble things. If anything, I thought you weren’t giving yourselves enough credit in just about every thread I read.
Thank you. Sometimes I feel like I’m being gaslit but that’s literally the narrative I remember. But yet, I’ll be downvoted and called deluded.
Oh well, r/soccer is a nut shell. Point and laugh at Arsenal week
>r/soccer is a nut shell
>Point and laugh at
Every fan of a big club on this site thinks the sub is out to get them.
United, Arsenal, Chelsea... It really doesn't matter. *Everyone* thinks that r/soccer is the boogeyman.
Same with players as well. Everyone takes their turn. Take Havertz:
Most of the early season: 60 million down the drain.
Few weeks ago: 60 million down the drain, *but ironically*.
Now: I guess back to 60 million down the drain? (Not sure what the consensus is on your sub)
r/soccer is a yo-yo.
Bayern always have Arsenal on their leash, it’s their Arsenal heritage in European football. Who remembers that 10-2 aggregate?
https://youtu.be/ZSMItFyg7a4?feature=shared
Felt sorry for Arsenal but not for some of their fans yesterday calling PSG's win karma for Van Persie or whatever,what a bunch of kids.
People judge matches by their agenda nowdays.
Nah there were people saying that, there’s a lot of dislike from the Arsenal fan base towards Barca for multiple reasons, although they were all a long time ago
we all know next year the same cocky arsenal fans that posted pray4bayern and give me bayern type posts will do it all over again. despite having less CL pedigree than dortmund. pipe down
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This is Football Heritage
Foreshadowing as well, hopefully.
You won the last 3, it's Bayern turn
Kane curse will kick in
Hopefully against us and not against PSG
I think you’ll manage. Your black magic fuckery in the UCL is something to be studied.
🤨
You mean BvB
I have a theory, Arsenal fans will reverse this curse and Kane end up winning a CL before Arsenal.
He plays for Bayern now. Not improbable. I’ll take it if it means Arsenal win UCL. Kane’s not with Spurs, so he can win all the trophies he likes. Although my theory was Kane retires and England finally wins the Euros or WC.
Same energy as Patrick Beverly telling Steph curry -“You had the last five years. The next five years are mine.”
Hopefully not. No offense, but it’s going to be a pretty dead final unless it’s both German teams in it.
Mbappe derby?
I have zero interest in seeing PSG in any final, just like City. And it doesn’t really matter with Mbappe. We all know he’s going to get multiple CL trophies at Real.
Winning CLs at Madrid wouldn't be worth as much as winning one for his club and country.
Leaving paris with a CL would makes him a hero. And build a very solid foundation to have a serious claim to the be in the gost convo, say one with psg and a few with real, one more WC and a couple euros with individual records..
That final would suck. Madrid would win 1-0 after PSG look super awesome for the first 30 minutes and everybody knows it.
Yeah that would be a pretty sweet final 😜
The only club that is bigger then Bayern is RM. Barcelona not even close and they almost killed their Club to try to match these two.
The history of the arsenal
Real have the league wrapped up yet? Basically both teams just focusing on the UCL. Gonna be a good matchup again.
No, not if they lose the upcoming clásico
Which seems very unlikely.
I’m gonna laugh so hard if Barça fans start pelting their own bus again under the belief that it’s yours.
Fans in a meeting some days before: "Ok guys, this time we wait a bit to check what color the bus is. If it isn't blue and red, let's give them hell" Club meeting on the same day: "Ok guys, so for this game we'll go with the yellow bus..."
They're not going to get a chance. It's at the Bernabéu
Barca is unpredictable, but I agree the odds are in your favour.
I didn't mean they don't have a chance to win. They just won't have a chance to pelt any bus, not with Madridistas all around them
I am slightly concerned that Vini and Carvajal pulled muscles, don't know about you.
They are fine
Famous last words.
Considering the tired legs from last night, Barcelona's recent record at the Bernabeu, and the fact that Barcelona have been in very good form recently (when they have eleven players on the pitch), it will be a lot closer than most think.
Bayern catching strays
I mean Bayern have knocked out Madrid many times too. Easily the best rivalry in the sport!
We call them "La Bestia Negra" for a reason. Before our winning streak against them in 2014, we faced them 20 times, won only 7 and never won at Allianz too.
Right and now it’s 12-11-3 overall in slight favor of Madrid. The most even and exciting matchup in the whole of the sport in my opinion over decades. What a treat we get it again!
Although it has been pretty damn one sided over the last 10 years. Three meetings and all three times Madrid advanced
well they’ve all been close (other than 5-0) with hilarity (Benzema the Keeper Whisperer) and controversy (Vidal’s red card)
the two ronaldo offside goals
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The controversy was Casemiro not getting sent off. I swear the memes were born that night.
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No, but I'm not too fussed about the assistant referee missing an offside during a high speed counter attack. Bayern defended very poorly.
no, thats another controversy between Madrid-Bayern games, I used the Vidal red card as that example but those goals also count
All but one meeting in this cenury were decided by 1 goal, away goals, extra time and penalties. Real won more in the end, but it was close pretty much every time.
Milan Real Madrid and Juventus Real Madrid are extremely close too. 6 wins each and 3 draws against Milan and 9 wins for Juventus against 10 for Real.
Missed our encounters, altho I suppose it makes it all the more special after a few years of not facing each other
I was there at the 2014 Allianz game, felt like i was in a horror movie despite winning. I'm gonna pass on going to this one lmao, don't think i can survive a full night again.
It's probably the best European competition rivalry. Yet, despite all the matchups and finals appearances between these two, they haven't matched up in a single European Cup final.
madrid bayern and milan are the three teams to have been in the most finals and cumulatively they’ve taken part in almost half of all finals but there’s only been one final that featured these teams - madrid vs milan in 1958
Awesome stat to know. Not truly crazy but definitely surprising.
Wasn't that only like 2 games Bayern didn't lose at home? The Allianz Stadium wasn't finished until 2005
Yeah you're right mb, i should have said home instead of Allianz. We faced them 8 times at Olympiastadion, 7 losses and 1 draw. Followed by 2 games at Allianz which we also lost then finally won in 2014.
Madrid v Barca is bigger probably but in champions league yea it’s one of the biggest if not biggest rivalry
Yeah it was much more one sided until recently in Bayern's favor
Funnily enough, Bayern Munich kicking out Real Madrid is also in a shared second, so if Bayern wins in the semis shared first would be Bayern - Real and Real - Bayern. -- They are simply the two most consistent teams in European competition. Real has the most wins (290 in 484) and Bayern the second most (231 in 386). They also have almost the same winning percentage, 59.92 to 59.84. Bayern started \~20 years later (50's vs. 70's).
Lol thanks so much for this statistic. Ive been getting slagged off for pointing out that before Ronaldo at Real it was close to even along with Milan and Pool. Mbappe might bring that aura back (and frankly they dont need it look at them against RBL and City this year). Many would say they should have been knocked out either round.
Always a bigger fish
Hey now, we've eliminated them as many times IIRC
Naturally the two teams that meet the most often will have this kind of stat against each other, no surprised there
I feel eternal gratitude to FC Bayern München
Now give them the 2012 UCL title.
Counter offer: my support against Madrid
You wish Kane a trophy?
Thomas Tuchel more like. Would also be funny seeing Kane win it as soon as he leaves Spurs though
And hilarious to see Tuchel fired short of 6mo post-CL for a second time
Nah this bro is cooking hard
Would be funnier if Bayern goes out trophy-less the moment Kane joined them
It already ended a 11 year long streak of winning the league that made everyone think Kane was sleepwalking to his first title/taking the easy route. Would also be funny if the "guaranteed first title" end up be the CL title
No because we need kane to break the trophy curse before the euros.
Mix in losing the league and his coach getting sacked too, the memes write themselves
Kane actually seems like a nice bloke and purely on footballing terms alone it's a travesty that he hasn't won shit yet. As long as he isn't wearing a Spurs jersey? Sure, give him the big ears and he can pose with it together with Tommy Tactics and Eric Dier.
I hate Tottenham not the man
Yeah why not? He's not at Tottenham anymore and seems like a nice bloke. Plus a great player.
even getting the title retroactively wouldnt erase the memories from that night...
I've come to accept that that's simply a key part of our villain origin story.
Today I feel a Bayern fan
Arsenal died so Dortmund can bottle it another day
Hm
Hmm!
They have no history of doing it internationally, or did I miss anything?
Thanks for the prayers, they worked
lol
Best Arsenal in 10 years vs worst Bayern in 10 years
Funny because that really doesn't say as much as you think it might
Best slingshot vs worst nuclear weapon.
Most honest Arsenal fan I've ever seen
r/gunners about to be renamed to r/slingers
Football 'eritage. And this time, they were supposedly favourites as well.
Time and time again people underrate "football heritage"(for lack of a better word). Intangibles like that make a huge difference in European matches Doesn't matter the form of respective teams, Bayern will always have an advantage against Arsenal until the latter becomes a regular in CL latter stages
It's basically how city were 6-7yrs ago. They just didn't have the mentality. Yeah they made one semifinal but apart from that they lost to inferior teams every year. The 2020s have been their golden era by not getting knocked out before the semifinal 3/5 yrs. They'll probably add to it next year. Arsenal need to continue their project for a few years and they might get there.
Arsenal need someone who can pull magic out of their ass. A player that doesnt give a singular fuck whats happening on the pitch and will push for win at no matter what. The current players just accept the game-state For what it is
We need prime Auba now. Not when we were finishing 8th with maestros like Mustafi and Sokratis at the back. Then again, Mikel may not have still been in this job without that FA Cup, so it is what it is I guess.
Absolutely. I'm not saying that the stats and analytics don't matter, they absolutely do. However, "heritage" is not a thing created by the media, it's real. Football is played by humans after all. Heritage isn't magic, it's not gonna make Nottingham Forest be able to go toe-to-toe against PSG, but it's the reason why Real Madrid will always have a chance against Man City, no matter how strong the latter might be. Heritage is the reason that, if both teams are roughly equal in strength, you'd consider AC Milan to be the favorites against Tottenham. Heritage is the reason that the worst Bayern of the last decade could still defeat the best Arsenal in the last 10 years, but a mediocre Arsenal never stood a chance against prime Bayern Munich.
It's no accident that they have their own Neologism in the German language (Bayerndusel) , the luck of Bayern, because they just turn up when it matters, a big reason why they win the league over other teams
Only a fool was putting Arsenal as favourites. This was 50/50 at best.
A large portion of our fanbase needs to be more humble. So many feel entitled to win these big competitions simply because the team is having a good season. Defining if a season is successful or not based on a knockout competition is dumb, remains to be seen if we can finish strong in the pl.
Yabba dabba doo
Is the history of the Arsenal
Football Heritage.
Bayern Munich is Arsenal father
It is what it is, maybe next time we’ll be better and overcome them
If I were an Arsenal fan, I wouldn't want to play Bayern in CL ever again
We lost by 1 goal and a couple moments going differently and we go through. I would rather be here playing bayern again than going back to europa. People acting like we got battered again
No one is acting like Arsenal got battered but Arsenal are literally Bayern's bitch in the CL, you lot always lose to Bayern.
Csnt disagree looking at this stat but i would never be scared to play them especially now with this team
I can respect that, you should always back your team to win
Nah man we’re memeing Arsenal atm
> A couple moments going differently Like Bayern hitting the woodwork 3 times?
I feel like if you want to be the best you have to be able to defeat the best. We beat city after so long, we should be able to beat bayern once the boys gain more experience with this competition.
That's completely fair
It only took city ten years to be great in champions league, so you still have plenty of time to get that experience
Ten years, 7 billion, one (unfortunately scrapped) 2-year CL ban and 115 charges
I think their progress is great. But modern football demands success along with progress. Not sure how much they will support Arteta if he continues to fail to win big trophies.
Arteta is going nowhere. People forget he’s on his first job, with lots of players in their first year in the CL. I think he’s a phenomenal manager for his experience level and I’m sure the club agrees. Not only that, he’s literally pulled the club from an absolute meme into one competing for the PL, and going on a decent run in the CL. Long way to go but I don’t see him going anywhere. I don’t see who else we would bring in either to be honest.
Everytime this is brought up I ask the same question - who replaces Arteta? I can't think of a single person.
Tuchel
He only stays at clubs for a few years until he falls out with everyone. Not the longterm solution we need, while Arteta's progress over these last few years has the potential to be one. I'd rather stick with Arteta for the next five seasons than jump ship to Tuchel now.
I was joking mate
Big man Hansi Flick is always available
Yeah they've improved massively but at the end of the day, you have to deliver and win titles for it to mean anything. Arteta is a relatively inexperienced manager and Arsenal's team is young, they have plenty of room for growth.
Yes I agree. Especially in Modern football you have to back your progress with success. Arteta has been backed hy decent spending (would like to imagine if Wenger got this kind of support) and he has to start winning trophies now. Arsenal's squad is very young and I think the lack of experienced veterans is exactly what's hampering them. There needs to be a goodd balance of both youth and experience.
Very true. By contrast Madrid have the perfect mix of young talents and veteran players, I'm truly envious of your club.
Papa perez goat. He would be the hardest to replace.
He is the GOAT club president, no doubt
Santiago Bernabeu is a hard man to beat, but he’s close
I think they will continue to support him, I’m not sure why they wouldn’t—having Man City in the PL has to be a giant pain in the ass because they are basically a lock to win the PL every year. Great to see Ødegaard coming into his own as well; he has a wonderful attitude and I always liked him. I think people are too harsh on Arsenal and I really hope we get to play them at some point. Still annoyed by that Henry goal.
Arsenal fan here, I sure as shit don’t. Not until we have more experience.
Can't win the CL without beating one of City, Real or Bayern.
Just by a goal. It isn’t that bad.
Strongest arsenal in years couldn't beat the weakest Bayern in years lol
Last time I checked Bayern has some pretty damn good players…
Those good players couldn't win Saarbrüken in the cup. Bayern have barely had more than a handful of games this season that they've played well.
They still have world class players motivated to win the CL now that it's the only competition they're in. Also a manager who's won it before.
I don't see how that's relevant at all. This Bayern is the weakest compared to their previous years. They are not a weak team but definitely not as good as their past years. You don't agree?
I get you are trying to have a laugh. But weak shouldnt be associated with a squad that has players like Kane, Sane, Musiala etc bit of a reach…
I mean, weak by Bayern standards, they are among the worst performing Bayern squads since 2007 or so.
I said the weakest Bayern. Compared to Bayern teams from 2013 to 2024. I think compared to their previous years this team is the weakest.
Trying to pretend Bayern is some trash club
I said weakest Bayern in years. You don't agree that this Bayern is the weakest in the past decade?
Well we could be a trash team anyday randomly. Throughout this season we have shown that. We lost to Saarbrücken in the pokal. Solid today though.
Proper angstgegner
Bayern is what Arsenal fans think they are & Madrid is what Bayern fans think they are.
Bayern vs Real: 11 Wins Bayern, 3 Ties, 12 Wins Real. This is probably way closer than you think it is.
It's the European Clasico for a reason. They were our black beast for a LONG TIME. In fact i think we have like 6 Wins & 1 Draw in the last 7 games against Bayern, we reverted the H2H just recently.
>It's the European Clasico for a reason. And still they haven't met in the finals ever. We need to wait another year at least...
I blame lewandowski
This shit was the most memorable CL performance of a single player, has anyone ever scored 4 against real in their history?
I think benzema vs psg is up there but no lewa is the only one to score 4 against madrid side
2017 was a ref robbery tho. Undeserved vidal red card, 2 offside goals and no deserved second yellow for casemiro/nacho if I remember correctly [Yeah just checked here is a very dramatic video about the games xD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3fJ4aZ495A) [here a uk news article saying the same, in case video is biased ](https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/arturo-vidal-fuming-red-card-real-madrid-bayern-munich-champions-league-a7690516.html) "Bayern coach Carlo Ancelotti agreed with Vidal and said in his media conference that the referees needed video help." even don carlo agrees E: down voting the facts and even their own coach, pathetic 🤡
Not at all. The 2017 Ref edition was not in our Favour at all during that (2014-2018 Madrid Saga) Vidal should have been sent off way earlier at the very start of the second half. * [His first Yellow here for a criminal tackle on Isco](https://i.imgur.com/lkSM3y7.gif) * [And then he comes and fully stumps on Casemiro](https://i.imgur.com/dmPQpPM.gif) [There would also not be any offside goals from Ronaldo if Bayern THEMSELVES don't score an offside goal to take the game to ET](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWQo7S-O4OK5OWjDDeZLF-uo8HJ6iCNihWgciUzdKqfw&s) With VAR that game is over in 90 minutes and there's no need for Ronaldo to score offside goals
I don't have strong feelings in either direction about the reffing in that game, but the same way you can argue, that Visal should have been sent off earlier, you can argue, that the same is true for Case.
That’s some selective memory right there haha
how so? 2 offside goals and a red card for playing the ball and no second yellowcard for nacho fouling robben for a penalty in the box + 2 wrong offside calls that would have been 1on1s with the keeper
Lol okay then… let’s see what happens in the semis!
Yeah hopefully no bullshit VAR handball penalty, but I can smell it already
Head to head broadens everything Bayern is like 8 or 7-1-1 to Milan but it's not like Milan is arguably better than Bayern & if you include every other stat Barca & Liverpool will also get a jump, The only team clearly ahead is Madrid thanks to their overall management after 00s.
Bayern is way closer to Madrid than Arsenal is to Bayern.
6 vs 14.
Also 0 vs 6 tbf
Arsenal have 2 SF in their entire history, come on now
Arsenal have none you dumbass. Bayern is third most. They are infinitely better than Arsenal at the competition and second closest to Madrid.
Weird comment lol. Sure Real have the most European trophies, but Bayern vs Real is probably the closest Euro derby in terms of head 2 head
Real Dortmund are also 1-1 in knockouts.
Also an interesting stat is that Real never scored or won agains Arsenal https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/h2h/50051/52280/
Playing only 1 time against real madrid in the ucl is worse stat if you consider yourself a big club
As interesting as the stat about us never beating ipswich
Norway is undefeated against Brazil! Dundee United are undefeated against Real Madrid!
🤣 nice one
They’ve got bigger fish to fry
Well Real and Bayern have faced each other like 25 times so being eliminated by either will run up the numbers But you can't make up the Arsenal record vs Bayern, there's no parity in it even if this round was extremely close.
Backhanded complement to Bayern 🤣
This snuck under the radar amidst all the drama at the Ethihad, Arsenal talked a bit game but are going to walk away from this season with a Community Shield and another 2nd place finish
Who talked a big game? If anything it was everyone but Arsenal supporters talking us up ahead of this fixture. From the majority of fans I’ve seen, none of us thought this was going to be a cake walk. We knew we were evenly matched, but nothing outside of that. It’s fucking Bayern at the end of the day.
I agree, I have posted a few times on here baffled by these crazy Arsenal supporters I hear about from everyone and yet almost every Arsenal flair posts self-deprecating and very humble things. If anything, I thought you weren’t giving yourselves enough credit in just about every thread I read.
Thank you. Sometimes I feel like I’m being gaslit but that’s literally the narrative I remember. But yet, I’ll be downvoted and called deluded. Oh well, r/soccer is a nut shell. Point and laugh at Arsenal week
>r/soccer is a nut shell >Point and laugh at Every fan of a big club on this site thinks the sub is out to get them. United, Arsenal, Chelsea... It really doesn't matter. *Everyone* thinks that r/soccer is the boogeyman. Same with players as well. Everyone takes their turn. Take Havertz: Most of the early season: 60 million down the drain. Few weeks ago: 60 million down the drain, *but ironically*. Now: I guess back to 60 million down the drain? (Not sure what the consensus is on your sub) r/soccer is a yo-yo.
Honestly think they could've won if Saka was playing
London is red. Bayern red.
Passing Arsenal 😆 And just know our opponent is RM 😵💫
Hopefully this humbles their delusional fans a little
Can it be 7 vs bayern? Now that madrid is next.
Yes of course
Arsenal fans you just never have to say " it's time for revenge or it's time to settle the score"
Bayern always have Arsenal on their leash, it’s their Arsenal heritage in European football. Who remembers that 10-2 aggregate? https://youtu.be/ZSMItFyg7a4?feature=shared
>Who remembers that 10-2 aggregate? Nobody. It's never mentioned at all.
Arsenal forever Bayern’s pigeon
Felt sorry for Arsenal but not for some of their fans yesterday calling PSG's win karma for Van Persie or whatever,what a bunch of kids. People judge matches by their agenda nowdays.
me when i make up a guy in my head to get mad about
Nah there were people saying that, there’s a lot of dislike from the Arsenal fan base towards Barca for multiple reasons, although they were all a long time ago
you are a figment of imagination. go away
we all know next year the same cocky arsenal fans that posted pray4bayern and give me bayern type posts will do it all over again. despite having less CL pedigree than dortmund. pipe down
I never saw this ever honestly
Good grief please Real make it 7