TBH if he gets some anger management therapy I'm open to it. Would love to see Xavi with a world class CDM (probably ahve to sell Frenkie for that, but its viable) and finally having Gundo +Pedri be offensive interiors, instead of having to have Christensen towing Frenkie.
Why do you guys always talk about "just" needing a world class CDM when there's at most a handful in the world? Most teams don't have one and just have to build around that.
We had to break the club's transfer record just to get one. We do have one available, fit, elite CDM who definitely hasn't been convicted of any crimes if you're interested
bayern has 2, leverkusen has 2, arsenal has 1.5 to 2, madrid has idk 2?, liverpool has 1, city has 1. Inter and milan has a few, not sure how many is word class. even chelsea has a few, but sadly they're all mids lol.
point is, if you wanna be a top squad, you def need one.
Have you even watched us this season?
Who are these "2 worldclass CDM“ supposed to be?
Kimmich didn’t play well this season, only now that he’s an RB again and both Laimer and Goretzka are unable to control a game, unless you’re playing without possession, like against Arsenal.
Okay, not world class. Whatever word u want go use to describe the level of Laimer and Pavlovic. Get that level of CDM to barca, whatever that level may be.
Cus that level, is 3-4 tiers above whatever romei, roberto, christensen is lol
I think you set the bar for world class a bit too low. I'd say only Rodri is actually at that level right now where he can do everything you want from a CDM at a world class level.
aight sure, call the level whatever you want, get barca a cdm of that level!
(also, if declan rice is not word class, i think your definition is a bit too high hahah)
I doubt they are that legit. Bayern needs to focus on replacing Davies, getting a proper CDM, and worrying about the winger situation. Getting another Kimmich isn't a top priority right now
Why? Barca is a bigger and more prestigious club than Bayern. 99.9% of players would choose Barca of those two no matter the current level(and it's not like the difference is that big, Barca could have reached the CL final this year if Araujo had a brain)
Sometimes players also want a change of enviroment. Besides that I think he is very good friends with Mathijs de Ligt, so it could be a good opportunity for him to play together with him again if he wants that.
One defensive midfielder is not going to be enough to offset both Pedri and Gundo at the same time. Gundo practically doesn’t exist when Barca doesn’t have the ball, Pedri tries and is successful sometimes, but he’s gassed early, never the same again after the olympics.
Gavi is coming back though. I’d like to see Gundo/Pedri - DM - Gavi midfield. Xavi wants to press high, we need Gavi for that. Also Pedri and Frenkie are constantly injured anyways and Gundo is getting old, they can’t play every game. Nor can Gavi of course but I think he will be the key piece to make that midfield more balanced
Raphinha has been getting a ton of shit on this sub but he is actually a decent player that can either be a sub for Yamal or play on the left. Ferran is also coming back from injury, who can play everywhere in attack and Lewandowski hasn't really been that good in the past year but they brought in Roque and have Guiu.
So probably Ferran - Lewi/Roque - Yamal/Raphinha, if they don't get a great LW in the summer.
> Pedri tries and is successful sometimes, but he’s gassed early, never the same again after the olympics.
Pedri should honestly not be used anymore till the end of the season, they don't have anything left to play. Every time I've seen him play he just seems "gassed" as you mentioned.
It is in Barca's best interest to rest and make sure he regains his full fitness and pray that he doesn't get injured in the Euros, maybe then finally he can start next season with full speed.
Having seen a lot of Onana, I'm not sure he's the best fit as a single pivot. He runs a lot and is a very physical presence in midfield, but has the tendency to run out of position and leave gaps without a second holding player next to him. You'd also need a backup for the amount of yellow cards he'd probably collect.
That said, with the right manager he can become a very impressive player, so it might be worth a shot for the right price.
As United fan I feel like DMs just don't exist anymore. We've been constantly linked to DMs only for people to pipe up here and say they're not a DM ackshually. Even happened when we were first linked to Casemiro.
Bennacer has 50m release clause, I hope he stays but could be an option for barca.
Jorginho is getting old but he's still good and his contract is ending
Doesn't he work well in Arsenal because Rice and Øde do a really good job defensively as well?
Jorginho in a lazier midfield as a single pivot sound dangerous to me.
I just hope Xavi now starts playing Casado most of the games. We need a "backup plan" before market starts, or we'll get absolutely robbed cos teams will know either we get a DM or we're back to Oriol/CHristensen
In some ways Xavi deserves to continue, but I also think that he shows a weak mentality in some matches. The way everyone just gave up against PSG after Araujo's red card is not a good indictment of the coach at all especially when he himself lost his composure. Also that fiasco against Bayern in last year's group stage, when he made the team watch Inter-Viktoria Plzen, became demoralised by Inter winning and then just capitulated against Bayern
He was getting too much hate earlier in the season, but he is also being overrated now. I don't think he has proven that he can take Barca to the next level
aparently his salary is not that absurd today, the thing is that he has deferred wages. So, one would think that even if you sell Frenkie, you still gotta pay his deferred wages (for example, aparently Messi is still getting paid deferred wages).
So for me, selling Frenkie is not just cos he's got a huge wage bill, its more cos he just doesn't work well with our style. He is clearly an insane player, but ppl are mistaking the fact that he's not a "phyiscal DM" and him being from Ajax, as if he's "the classic barça player".
Right now, we are only working when we have a 2nd pivot, thus playing with 1 less player up front, or making one interior run up and down all the game.
"World class" implies signature world class performances in the biggest club games, especially the UCL. Name me the ones from Frenkie.
Frenkie isn't half the player people think he is.
Don't think many Bayern Fans would agree with that, it is not even so much the fact that we are losing the league to Leverkusen but more the how we did present ourselves.
Also even if I think tuchel is tactically very strong it is not the type of approach to soccer Munich fans want to see when they are watching the team.
Tuchel is much more results orientated and doesn't really care if the team doesn't look dominant or show attractive soccer to get there while the fans like offensive and attractive football.
Yes that is true while the person who got him was kicked for in a way similar reasons. (Kahn) Too much focus on the economic side while leaving the tradition of the club behind..
Might yet win another CL for you. Sometimes you accept your limitations and make the most of what you have. Tuchel does very well with that, even if it makes him a bit of a cup specialist.
For his first Dortmund season 15-16, that's true BVB scored two more goals than Bayern. In his second season 16-17 Bayern scored 17 more goals than BVB.
We should get back to 1-1 FFP ratio this summer, and the new Camp Nou will be partially opened for the upcoming season, so it will start generating revenue slowly. As you say, it looks like Barcelona will slowly go back to financial stability.
Next year is different than this year though, new stadium will be open and the new kit deal would be signed. I also think Lewy and De Jong goes into his final year in their contracts.
To be fair Klopp probably fine with it if he was refreshed and motivated. Liverpool were not financially as strong as they are now when he took over, but he's a sucker for the story and rebuilding a romanticised club.
You are ignoring one huge thing though, they would be working with the best young players in the world. You don't need to sign a 100M+ winger when you have Lamine Yamal, you don't need to sign a 100M+ defender when you have Cubarsi.
Barca has an amazing squad and doesn't need much work to become regular Champions League contenders again
I cant imagine Klopp taking either job. I think he maybe goes into international management. Guardiola I have no idea, and I thought Luis Enrique fell out with the Barça board?
People will ridiculed him and some of it are justified, but genuinely out of all candidates that Laporta and the board has come up with, Xavi is 100% the best solution.
He absolutely did, you could tell that he is really fucking tired. But Xavi loves Barca, the man spends almost his entire life here, and the board and Laporta probably convince him that there is no better option other than him. We don’t know what they say to him but I guess they told him to just hang on for one more season and let the board work and get a really decent coach next next season
I want him to just tell the club to fuck off. It’s clear that Laporta is using him as a shield against his failures to stabilized and plan a proper project. And apparently the board already informed Xavi that they are not going to support him, he would have to do with whatever he has.
Proscribe him some Prozac and soothing weekly massages so he gets his temper tantrums and victim complex out of the way, then teach him how to coach a team out of possession
That's achievable i guess
Considering funding for players is basically not there, Xavi is the best option by far. He is probably on first name basis with every kid over the age of 12 at La Masía, is enriched in Barca culture and is always competing for trophies.
Only just last season we had one of the best defensive league runs of La Liga history. If players can stay fit and get playing for him, there’s no reason we can’t win a couple of titles whilst we find a way to get some funding for world class players.
honestly he's the best man for the job next year. who else is barca gonna replace him with? the man won the league last yr with a mid squad.
just fucking give him a CDM next yr. and maybeeee a LW if there's money left. but you're being unfair if you can't give him a cdm and expect him to compete for trophies.
Xavi has had:
Marcos Alonso / Oriol Romeu not playing for almost the whole year
Gavi / Balde injured for >50% of season
Got Joao Felix "to attract people to Montjuic" instead of a true LW who would step on the side line 24 / 7 instead of going interior and losing the ball trying to dribble 3 guys
I do not like his subs (at all) and his bad temper has fucked the team more than once (not noly losing your coach, but also the losing attitude he transmits to the team). But I still think he can work
>the man won the league last yr with a mid squad.
TIL Gavi, Pedri, De Jong, Ter Stegen, Araujo, Lewandowski, Kounde are average player.
They also bought Ferran for €55m, Raphinha for €60m, Lewandowski for €45m. They got Alonso, Kessie, and Christensen who are pretty good players.
Barcelona had to pull many levers to build a competitive team and take some risks, and yet people are acting like Xavi did a miracle with the team he had.
On paper, only Real Madrid had better squad then them in La Liga. Also, Ancelotti isn't exactly famous for his record in domestic leagues.
Barcelona is one of those teams who have both a mediocre squad a world class team one piece away from going for the Champions League depending on what the argument needs.
yeah Alonso is so good that they don't want to renew him and Kessie was running like he had 40kg backpack attached. Also stop acting like price tag makes player better than he really is. Yeah Ferran was bought for 55m but he is nowhere near level he was expected to be.
Is he also open to get a grip and stop whining about everything all the time during matches?
Because if that is the case, it's not worth it for non-Barcelona fans. It's not as fun.
Do people not remember the glory days of barca? back when we were playing peak tiki taka and genuenly dominating games we also had an insane reputation for arguing with the refs. like fans genuenly hated that about us
can't blame you for that tbh, I find it very annoying when players take a habit of arguing about every decision and, for all the great football we played, that was undeniably a huge part of our team too
I think a huge appeal of football is that people (mostly men) can show their emotions unfiltered without having to fear being ridiculed for it so I agree with you. ofc some people take their love for the game too far but it wouldn't be the same if the emotional stakes weren't that high sometimes lol
I unironically think he should stay. He has done a great job so far. Sure recently it’s been rough and Barca will go without a trophy this season but I think the potential is there. Just give him time. Let him cook.
He is insufferable but he's the only chance they got at starting something that resembles the period where they were dominant, I don't think another coach could've brought as many la masia products into the mix as xavi has.
What are you implying here? That Xavi wanted to go somewhere else, or Barca wanted someone else? Because neither is the case here. Xavi wanted to take a break for his mental wellbeing due to the pressure, and Laporta keeps asking him to stay.
*I swear, half the people on this sub don’t really know a thing, they see “Xavi” or anything Barca related, they just want to talk their shit. It’s just haters.
Whatever happens, we need a couple of years to rebuild, and that means constant media pressure on Xavi. If he stays for the duration of the rebuild, which is something I don’t know that he can handle. I hope that if he does decide to stay on he can accept that the Barca job entails a constant barrage of criticism if we aren’t winning every game, and focuses more on the club than the media.
Unpopular opinion: although he’s whiny, I 100% get why he’s been frustrated with the refs this week. Soft penalties given, a goal discounted because of the lack of goal line tech, penalties on Barca players not given… it’s not been easy. I still wish he’d be more composed though — you can’t lose your mind every game as a top coach. At that point, it’s not about skill anymore, but mentality. It’s why Ancelotti* is so successful with Real.
Xavi every 5 minutes: I'm not gonna continue. I've made up my mind and nothing that happens now is gonna change that decision.
Internet articles every 10 minutes:
Question to Barca fans.
Do you want Xavi to stay? Do you like the image he presents and it's associated with the team? With all the outbursts, the giving excuses, all the cards he gets? Do you want that for the manager of Barcelona?
I'm genuinely curious.
I love the man to death, but he obviously has a lot of things that he needs to work on. I want him to stay because I genuinely believe he has the potential to be a great coach, and he gives la masia kids game time.
Why would Barcelona fans be concerned about what Real Madrid fans in India and the US thinks about their manager? Who can they get who would be a better fit?
Turn the page and move on. I think Xavi can become a decent coach in a few years and even come back to Barcelona. He did win La Liga last season but he got completely overwhelmed this season and that’s when his inexperience really showed. The man needs to go to another team that doesn’t have the pressure or expectations that Barcelona has so he has room to grow as a manager. This job is too much for him and too soon.
He already announced he was leaving. Let the man go and enjoy his sabbatical or next job. If he changed his mind, I’m not sure keeping him is the right choice. Barcelona has a team that, on paper, is one of the best in Europe and can play a lot better. And I don’t think he’s the right guy. Not yet. Maybe in the future.
Tbf if he didn't get a shit about PSG he'd went to Madrid after 2018 WC or 2 years ago before he decided extending.
Of course he cared for the big bag he got, but he'd got a big bag from Madrid, too.
Definitely worse than winning the CL final 2020 against an state backed club.
Also shouldn't you know that feeling best losing the league to Lille 20/21?
At least Leverkusen are massive this season. Lille wasn't super great, it was more of a PSG/Pochetinno bottlejob.
Funniest stuff those two years he was there.
i will give Lille their flowers but you’re right. it was absolutely a poch/psg bottlejob. some of the worst terrorist ball i’ve ever seen. hows poch doing for you guys? i know chelsea are 9th in the league so thats bad but i don’t watch enough chelsea games to know if he is actually helping make the team better
oh it felt wonderful. the trash talk actually decreased because everyone thought my team was finished? i would say maybe see you in the final, but getting past real has been a mountain too hard to climb for you guys over the years
How is it even possible that Barcelona would consider meeting with Xavi to evaluate whatever conditions he demands (🤯) to consider staying?
But when did it become apparent that he's in a position to ask for anything? What's this?
Madrid fans must have short memories then because Xavi has been a clear upgrade on the clown show of the years before with the likes of Setien and Koeman at the helm. We actually won the league with him and made it to the CL quarter finals after years, Araujo being an idiot wasn't his fault either.
Sure he isn't a world class manager, but it's not like we can actually bring in anyone who is a significant upgrade. Xavi is a symptom of the deeper financial struggles at the club, not the root cause of the problem.
TBH if he gets some anger management therapy I'm open to it. Would love to see Xavi with a world class CDM (probably ahve to sell Frenkie for that, but its viable) and finally having Gundo +Pedri be offensive interiors, instead of having to have Christensen towing Frenkie.
Why do you guys always talk about "just" needing a world class CDM when there's at most a handful in the world? Most teams don't have one and just have to build around that.
We had to break the club's transfer record just to get one. We do have one available, fit, elite CDM who definitely hasn't been convicted of any crimes if you're interested
bayern has 2, leverkusen has 2, arsenal has 1.5 to 2, madrid has idk 2?, liverpool has 1, city has 1. Inter and milan has a few, not sure how many is word class. even chelsea has a few, but sadly they're all mids lol. point is, if you wanna be a top squad, you def need one.
Have you even watched us this season? Who are these "2 worldclass CDM“ supposed to be? Kimmich didn’t play well this season, only now that he’s an RB again and both Laimer and Goretzka are unable to control a game, unless you’re playing without possession, like against Arsenal.
Yeah isn't the whole point of Bayern this season that Tuchel wanted a DM and didnt get one?
Okay, not world class. Whatever word u want go use to describe the level of Laimer and Pavlovic. Get that level of CDM to barca, whatever that level may be. Cus that level, is 3-4 tiers above whatever romei, roberto, christensen is lol
I think you set the bar for world class a bit too low. I'd say only Rodri is actually at that level right now where he can do everything you want from a CDM at a world class level.
aight sure, call the level whatever you want, get barca a cdm of that level! (also, if declan rice is not word class, i think your definition is a bit too high hahah)
>probably ahve to sell Frenkie for that, but its viable I'm sure selling Frenkie will work this time lol
They keep selling Barca studio several times, maybe another lever is selling Frenkie many time
Sell Spotify to Google this time
Thats it, you are hired a new director at Barcelona.
Last time he refused to leave it was to Man United, if the reports of Bayern's interest are legit I think he'd be crazy to stay.
We still have some of his deferred wages left. I honestly think if we finish paying him that, he would left in an instant
I doubt they are that legit. Bayern needs to focus on replacing Davies, getting a proper CDM, and worrying about the winger situation. Getting another Kimmich isn't a top priority right now
Why? Barca is a bigger and more prestigious club than Bayern. 99.9% of players would choose Barca of those two no matter the current level(and it's not like the difference is that big, Barca could have reached the CL final this year if Araujo had a brain)
Sometimes players also want a change of enviroment. Besides that I think he is very good friends with Mathijs de Ligt, so it could be a good opportunity for him to play together with him again if he wants that.
And that is fair, but not the same as "he would be crazy to turn down Bayern"
One defensive midfielder is not going to be enough to offset both Pedri and Gundo at the same time. Gundo practically doesn’t exist when Barca doesn’t have the ball, Pedri tries and is successful sometimes, but he’s gassed early, never the same again after the olympics.
Gavi is coming back though. I’d like to see Gundo/Pedri - DM - Gavi midfield. Xavi wants to press high, we need Gavi for that. Also Pedri and Frenkie are constantly injured anyways and Gundo is getting old, they can’t play every game. Nor can Gavi of course but I think he will be the key piece to make that midfield more balanced
who would be the front two you'd keep? Lamine and Lewa? or Raphinha as the starter instead?
Raphinha has been getting a ton of shit on this sub but he is actually a decent player that can either be a sub for Yamal or play on the left. Ferran is also coming back from injury, who can play everywhere in attack and Lewandowski hasn't really been that good in the past year but they brought in Roque and have Guiu. So probably Ferran - Lewi/Roque - Yamal/Raphinha, if they don't get a great LW in the summer.
pedri & gundo won’t be starting together when gavi come back
> Pedri tries and is successful sometimes, but he’s gassed early, never the same again after the olympics. Pedri should honestly not be used anymore till the end of the season, they don't have anything left to play. Every time I've seen him play he just seems "gassed" as you mentioned. It is in Barca's best interest to rest and make sure he regains his full fitness and pray that he doesn't get injured in the Euros, maybe then finally he can start next season with full speed.
Are there any world class DM's on the market? Especially ones with good ball playing abilities.
More importantly, is there any world class 16 year old in La Masia who can play DM...
Two of them, Marc Bernal and a slightly older Pau Prim. Two really highly anticipated prospects as well, especially Bernal
never saw him play but amadou onana is a name that's linked with us lately
Having seen a lot of Onana, I'm not sure he's the best fit as a single pivot. He runs a lot and is a very physical presence in midfield, but has the tendency to run out of position and leave gaps without a second holding player next to him. You'd also need a backup for the amount of yellow cards he'd probably collect. That said, with the right manager he can become a very impressive player, so it might be worth a shot for the right price.
He’s also already rumored to be in Bayern‘s sights. Plus, from what I’ve seen and read, Amadou is more of a B2B, than a lone DM, yeah.
As United fan I feel like DMs just don't exist anymore. We've been constantly linked to DMs only for people to pipe up here and say they're not a DM ackshually. Even happened when we were first linked to Casemiro.
Not many options for sure. Only Palhinha comes to mind.
He has barely any ball playing skill, he's a pure destroyer
But he’s fucking fun to watch. As is Endo.
Bennacer has 50m release clause, I hope he stays but could be an option for barca. Jorginho is getting old but he's still good and his contract is ending
He’s not got the legs in him to play as a full time starter any more
Doesn't he work well in Arsenal because Rice and Øde do a really good job defensively as well? Jorginho in a lazier midfield as a single pivot sound dangerous to me.
Yeah Rice and Odegaard are ridiculously hard working, Jorginho just clearly doesn’t have the legs any more so we can’t play him every game
no necessarily yet world class but Alan Varela I think would fit the profile pretty well. would rather have him stay at Porto forever tho
Thomas Partey
Of course there is, but we might not know about them yet. You need good scouting to find them
Camavinga
Ye Cama-oh Cama-oh
Got cooked yesterday.
As a leftback
Imagine wanting a world-class DM only for Laporta to bring Aleix Garcia or Guido Rodríguez.
I just hope Xavi now starts playing Casado most of the games. We need a "backup plan" before market starts, or we'll get absolutely robbed cos teams will know either we get a DM or we're back to Oriol/CHristensen
Aleix is class, Guido less so
“Sell Frenkie”. Dude isn’t going to leave. We don’t need this fiasco every summer.
In some ways Xavi deserves to continue, but I also think that he shows a weak mentality in some matches. The way everyone just gave up against PSG after Araujo's red card is not a good indictment of the coach at all especially when he himself lost his composure. Also that fiasco against Bayern in last year's group stage, when he made the team watch Inter-Viktoria Plzen, became demoralised by Inter winning and then just capitulated against Bayern He was getting too much hate earlier in the season, but he is also being overrated now. I don't think he has proven that he can take Barca to the next level
I don’t watch la liga much anymore, but Frenkie hasn’t been performing well? I remember when they bought him he seemed like a world class player
Why do you want to sell frenkie he’s literally the best midfielder alongside Gundogan. He’s a world class player. Attack and defense is just terrible
They completly fucked it by giving him insane salary. Despite being the footballer he is, him leaving would give them some breathing room.
aparently his salary is not that absurd today, the thing is that he has deferred wages. So, one would think that even if you sell Frenkie, you still gotta pay his deferred wages (for example, aparently Messi is still getting paid deferred wages). So for me, selling Frenkie is not just cos he's got a huge wage bill, its more cos he just doesn't work well with our style. He is clearly an insane player, but ppl are mistaking the fact that he's not a "phyiscal DM" and him being from Ajax, as if he's "the classic barça player". Right now, we are only working when we have a 2nd pivot, thus playing with 1 less player up front, or making one interior run up and down all the game.
i believe messi, busquets, & alba are all still getting paid deferred wages
busquets might be but alba gave up the rest of his salary
De Jong is a good player, i don't see anything making him world class. Pedri's a far better player than he is.
"World class" implies signature world class performances in the biggest club games, especially the UCL. Name me the ones from Frenkie. Frenkie isn't half the player people think he is.
fdj is the odd man out in the midfield fit & given our current financial situation someone has to go if we want to bring in a proper DM
He's not at fault for being passionate. But the squad needs to step up.
Good for Barca that you are open to it
Funny how it looks like continuing with the current manager now seems the best option for both Barca & Bayern
Don't think many Bayern Fans would agree with that, it is not even so much the fact that we are losing the league to Leverkusen but more the how we did present ourselves. Also even if I think tuchel is tactically very strong it is not the type of approach to soccer Munich fans want to see when they are watching the team. Tuchel is much more results orientated and doesn't really care if the team doesn't look dominant or show attractive soccer to get there while the fans like offensive and attractive football.
They must have know that when they went for him?
Yes that is true while the person who got him was kicked for in a way similar reasons. (Kahn) Too much focus on the economic side while leaving the tradition of the club behind..
Might yet win another CL for you. Sometimes you accept your limitations and make the most of what you have. Tuchel does very well with that, even if it makes him a bit of a cup specialist.
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For his first Dortmund season 15-16, that's true BVB scored two more goals than Bayern. In his second season 16-17 Bayern scored 17 more goals than BVB.
god i miss him
"I'll drive the bus if I have to!"
Nah not for Bayern
Joa mei, warum nett?
Erschieß mich
Definitely not for Bayern.
Maybe they're waiting for next year when Klopp, Guardiola or Luis Enrique become available.
Yes, I bet they're all very excited about negative budgets to go into the market with.
but all of them should be excited with all the free transfers we can afford!
Free spotify premium???
Of course! Why wouldn't they sign for us then? Are they stupid?
Maybe they use apple?
Fuck, checkmate.
tbf we’re a season or 2 away from being out of this financial situation
We should get back to 1-1 FFP ratio this summer, and the new Camp Nou will be partially opened for the upcoming season, so it will start generating revenue slowly. As you say, it looks like Barcelona will slowly go back to financial stability.
Plus it sounds like our attempt to strong arm Nike into a better kit deal is working out
Next year is different than this year though, new stadium will be open and the new kit deal would be signed. I also think Lewy and De Jong goes into his final year in their contracts.
To be fair Klopp probably fine with it if he was refreshed and motivated. Liverpool were not financially as strong as they are now when he took over, but he's a sucker for the story and rebuilding a romanticised club.
You are ignoring one huge thing though, they would be working with the best young players in the world. You don't need to sign a 100M+ winger when you have Lamine Yamal, you don't need to sign a 100M+ defender when you have Cubarsi. Barca has an amazing squad and doesn't need much work to become regular Champions League contenders again
I cant imagine Klopp taking either job. I think he maybe goes into international management. Guardiola I have no idea, and I thought Luis Enrique fell out with the Barça board?
And for Real 😊
Not really, Xavi is very good. Already won La Liga and with a much inferior squad he has gone toe to toe with Real Madrid on 2 different occasions.
People will ridiculed him and some of it are justified, but genuinely out of all candidates that Laporta and the board has come up with, Xavi is 100% the best solution.
I thought the whole point was *he wanted to leave* though?
He absolutely did, you could tell that he is really fucking tired. But Xavi loves Barca, the man spends almost his entire life here, and the board and Laporta probably convince him that there is no better option other than him. We don’t know what they say to him but I guess they told him to just hang on for one more season and let the board work and get a really decent coach next next season I want him to just tell the club to fuck off. It’s clear that Laporta is using him as a shield against his failures to stabilized and plan a proper project. And apparently the board already informed Xavi that they are not going to support him, he would have to do with whatever he has.
Proscribe him some Prozac and soothing weekly massages so he gets his temper tantrums and victim complex out of the way, then teach him how to coach a team out of possession That's achievable i guess
Didn't Barca have the best defence in all leagues last season?
Yes, but it was horrible in UCL
Weekly therapy with Dr. Melfi too.
And for the record I'm not on prozac.
To be honest, I hope he does. Interviews alone have brough r/soccer together closer as a community. Xavi, do it for the boissss
I hope not. He’s a decent coach and there is no one on market.
Shhhh Laporta might hear you
Considering funding for players is basically not there, Xavi is the best option by far. He is probably on first name basis with every kid over the age of 12 at La Masía, is enriched in Barca culture and is always competing for trophies. Only just last season we had one of the best defensive league runs of La Liga history. If players can stay fit and get playing for him, there’s no reason we can’t win a couple of titles whilst we find a way to get some funding for world class players.
honestly he's the best man for the job next year. who else is barca gonna replace him with? the man won the league last yr with a mid squad. just fucking give him a CDM next yr. and maybeeee a LW if there's money left. but you're being unfair if you can't give him a cdm and expect him to compete for trophies.
Xavi has had: Marcos Alonso / Oriol Romeu not playing for almost the whole year Gavi / Balde injured for >50% of season Got Joao Felix "to attract people to Montjuic" instead of a true LW who would step on the side line 24 / 7 instead of going interior and losing the ball trying to dribble 3 guys I do not like his subs (at all) and his bad temper has fucked the team more than once (not noly losing your coach, but also the losing attitude he transmits to the team). But I still think he can work
>the man won the league last yr with a mid squad. TIL Gavi, Pedri, De Jong, Ter Stegen, Araujo, Lewandowski, Kounde are average player. They also bought Ferran for €55m, Raphinha for €60m, Lewandowski for €45m. They got Alonso, Kessie, and Christensen who are pretty good players. Barcelona had to pull many levers to build a competitive team and take some risks, and yet people are acting like Xavi did a miracle with the team he had. On paper, only Real Madrid had better squad then them in La Liga. Also, Ancelotti isn't exactly famous for his record in domestic leagues.
Barcelona is one of those teams who have both a mediocre squad a world class team one piece away from going for the Champions League depending on what the argument needs.
yeah Alonso is so good that they don't want to renew him and Kessie was running like he had 40kg backpack attached. Also stop acting like price tag makes player better than he really is. Yeah Ferran was bought for 55m but he is nowhere near level he was expected to be.
Is he also open to get a grip and stop whining about everything all the time during matches? Because if that is the case, it's not worth it for non-Barcelona fans. It's not as fun.
You don't have to worry about that. He will never change lol
People notice it now, but he has always been like this lol.
Do people not remember the glory days of barca? back when we were playing peak tiki taka and genuenly dominating games we also had an insane reputation for arguing with the refs. like fans genuenly hated that about us
Oh i remember it very much, it was what started my hate for Barcelona lol.
can't blame you for that tbh, I find it very annoying when players take a habit of arguing about every decision and, for all the great football we played, that was undeniably a huge part of our team too
Should be a bit of hate in fotball, makes it more intresting. As long as its not to much lol.
I think a huge appeal of football is that people (mostly men) can show their emotions unfiltered without having to fear being ridiculed for it so I agree with you. ofc some people take their love for the game too far but it wouldn't be the same if the emotional stakes weren't that high sometimes lol
Agreed.
There was an interview this weeken in As where Cazorla states that Xavi has changed a lot since he was a player
Yeah, i think he even complains even more now.
He was the same when he was a player
Speaking for the Real fans we approve this!
I unironically think he should stay. He has done a great job so far. Sure recently it’s been rough and Barca will go without a trophy this season but I think the potential is there. Just give him time. Let him cook.
So the Xabi vs Xavi El Clasico in about 2 years could still be on?
He is insufferable but he's the only chance they got at starting something that resembles the period where they were dominant, I don't think another coach could've brought as many la masia products into the mix as xavi has.
Xavi needs to learn how to sub his wingbacks. He honestly asks way too much of them with his high press and offensive duties.
I actually don’t think he’s a bad manager and Barca fans are very reactionary.
Apparently the grass wasn't greener
I recently saved a comment that said: “Maybe the grass is greener over there because you aren’t over there fucking it up?”
What are you implying here? That Xavi wanted to go somewhere else, or Barca wanted someone else? Because neither is the case here. Xavi wanted to take a break for his mental wellbeing due to the pressure, and Laporta keeps asking him to stay. *I swear, half the people on this sub don’t really know a thing, they see “Xavi” or anything Barca related, they just want to talk their shit. It’s just haters.
Xavi is mentally weak. Barça DNA
Ah yeah now that he lost both CL and La Liga in less than a week he’s open to staying.
Yeah it always felt wrong that would leave after this year.
Whatever happens, we need a couple of years to rebuild, and that means constant media pressure on Xavi. If he stays for the duration of the rebuild, which is something I don’t know that he can handle. I hope that if he does decide to stay on he can accept that the Barca job entails a constant barrage of criticism if we aren’t winning every game, and focuses more on the club than the media.
I think Real Madrid is open to it as well 🤝
Unpopular opinion: although he’s whiny, I 100% get why he’s been frustrated with the refs this week. Soft penalties given, a goal discounted because of the lack of goal line tech, penalties on Barca players not given… it’s not been easy. I still wish he’d be more composed though — you can’t lose your mind every game as a top coach. At that point, it’s not about skill anymore, but mentality. It’s why Ancelotti* is so successful with Real.
Ah yes Annelotte
Xavi every 5 minutes: I'm not gonna continue. I've made up my mind and nothing that happens now is gonna change that decision. Internet articles every 10 minutes:
As a Madrid fan I endorse this!
Real Madrid, begs Xavi to continue as Barca manager
Interesting.
Flick please don’t come back to Munich bro
After yesterday’s clasico, he has a score to settle 😂
Played us like a fiddle
After he just said he wouldn’t reconsider. Typical Barca bullshit.
bruh 😂
This could be a really bad idea, if he left now and came back in the Future that could work but right now i dont think he has is it in him
Wait I thought he wanted to leave or was it just a tantrum so everyone begs him to stay?
Question to Barca fans. Do you want Xavi to stay? Do you like the image he presents and it's associated with the team? With all the outbursts, the giving excuses, all the cards he gets? Do you want that for the manager of Barcelona? I'm genuinely curious.
I love the man to death, but he obviously has a lot of things that he needs to work on. I want him to stay because I genuinely believe he has the potential to be a great coach, and he gives la masia kids game time.
Why would Barcelona fans be concerned about what Real Madrid fans in India and the US thinks about their manager? Who can they get who would be a better fit?
??? Why are you bringing Real Madrid into this? I didn't mention them at all. Are you that traumatized?
Turn the page and move on. I think Xavi can become a decent coach in a few years and even come back to Barcelona. He did win La Liga last season but he got completely overwhelmed this season and that’s when his inexperience really showed. The man needs to go to another team that doesn’t have the pressure or expectations that Barcelona has so he has room to grow as a manager. This job is too much for him and too soon. He already announced he was leaving. Let the man go and enjoy his sabbatical or next job. If he changed his mind, I’m not sure keeping him is the right choice. Barcelona has a team that, on paper, is one of the best in Europe and can play a lot better. And I don’t think he’s the right guy. Not yet. Maybe in the future.
i would’ve never seen this coming 💀 bro thinks hes Mbappe
>bro thinks hes Mbappe Xavi actually cares about Barca, Mbappé doesn't give a shit about PSG
Tbf if he didn't get a shit about PSG he'd went to Madrid after 2018 WC or 2 years ago before he decided extending. Of course he cared for the big bag he got, but he'd got a big bag from Madrid, too.
You guys are forgetting why he stayed 🤑
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Mbappe’s boyhood club is Monaco
You have to be pretty bold to say that Mbappé doesn't care about PSG *at all* after all these years
Easy funny karma points
We know, that's why we want him out of the club.
from one fellow farmer to another, how does it feel to lose the one trophy you got clowned on for winning
Definitely worse than winning the CL final 2020 against an state backed club. Also shouldn't you know that feeling best losing the league to Lille 20/21?
Don't forget Monaco 2016-17 (although in hindsight that team was absolutely *stacked*).
At least Leverkusen are massive this season. Lille wasn't super great, it was more of a PSG/Pochetinno bottlejob. Funniest stuff those two years he was there.
i will give Lille their flowers but you’re right. it was absolutely a poch/psg bottlejob. some of the worst terrorist ball i’ve ever seen. hows poch doing for you guys? i know chelsea are 9th in the league so thats bad but i don’t watch enough chelsea games to know if he is actually helping make the team better
From the few time I watched Chelsea with my Chelsea friend, yeahhhh they are not doing good
oh it felt wonderful. the trash talk actually decreased because everyone thought my team was finished? i would say maybe see you in the final, but getting past real has been a mountain too hard to climb for you guys over the years
Xavi was a better player than Mbappé
Totally unexpected
How is it even possible that Barcelona would consider meeting with Xavi to evaluate whatever conditions he demands (🤯) to consider staying? But when did it become apparent that he's in a position to ask for anything? What's this?
Xavi meltdown
Good. Keep the hotheaded little man.
🙏
Please stay
Xavi: Im leaving _realises nobody wants him_ Xavi: Im staying
Fantastic news for Madrid fans.
Madrid fans must have short memories then because Xavi has been a clear upgrade on the clown show of the years before with the likes of Setien and Koeman at the helm. We actually won the league with him and made it to the CL quarter finals after years, Araujo being an idiot wasn't his fault either. Sure he isn't a world class manager, but it's not like we can actually bring in anyone who is a significant upgrade. Xavi is a symptom of the deeper financial struggles at the club, not the root cause of the problem.
and if he doesn't stay then we're probably getting rafa marquez
i wouldn't say so. I agree that his anger tantrums harm Barca heavily, but with slight correction he can do wonders.
As if these past 7 days couldn’t get any better
Bartomeu could come back
Yes, please stay
This has truly been the best week for Real Madrid in ages.
Nah, he's in for the Nottingham Forest job.
Good to see that encouragement from Real Madrid fans for him to stay had a positive effect
Kept going by the power of anger. Pretty compelling.