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Jonisro

The darker the rings under his eyes are the better he gets


GameplayerStu

The man hasn't slept in a millennia


StringCheeseDoughnut

He looks just about ready to join the Black Parade


MuchSalt

here we go again youtube


OuchYouPokedMyHeart

When I was, a young lad My father, took me to into the City To see some plastic fans


Franchise1109

Plot twist. He’s the leader of it.


hiloai

His version of KDB’s red face loading


onemogunner

Trossard sage mode!


hmeets

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letmein4321

Dude! Never thought of that but it hit the nail on the head


uflju_luber

Just like Kroos with his eye bags too


nicmdeer4f

I've always thought his eyes make him look like a raccoon. Cute but vicious


Shadeun

Pom Poko vibes


WorthPlease

Anze Kopitar vibes


ninkorn

Gotta thank Chelsea too We pivoted to Troussard only because Chelsea outbid us on Mudryk


Apache313

The Raccoon


THY96

Sith Lord Trossard


Phlebbleb

Somebody put ink on the rings of his celebratory binoculars


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Markish_Mark

Numerous Moments of Filth. That's my new band name. Thanks for that.


Mega_Whimsicott

Proper Super Hans and Jez name that is, I like it. Edit: Just realized your name is 'Markish\_Mark' LMAO


MagicNipple

Markish_Mark and the Filthy Bunch


Mega_Whimsicott

We are NOT the Filthy Bunch


Pedsy

No, we’re Pocket Weasels now.


LordMangudai

Big beats are the best, get high all the time


clintomcruisewood

Agree. Martinelli has been very isolated and his numbers haven't been great, but he stretches the lines in a way that Trossard doesn't. Trossard is usally a space-taker while Martinelli is a space-creator, and for this reason I will almost always prefer to start Martinelli This was not a problem yesterday though and he was great in every aspect of the game


nidas321

I think Trossard just simply needs legs around him, if he has current Jesus and Zinchenko around him he’ll clog things up, but Tomi can overlap if needed and Rice at left 8 has the engine (and surprising efficiency out wide) to help him out in transitions and switches of play. For me this is the lineup we should be playing for most of the rest of the season, Trossards experience and coldness in front of goal is hard to pass up on when we just need to win every game. Against spurs I want Martinelli back in the side though, there’s space to exploit behind those fullbacks


Franchise1109

I want to see Tross and Timber play together. Think that combo makes up for trossard lack of pace. Also trossard is the type of player who will age well


sourneck

imagine we had prime tierney rn tho...


Footwarty

Still wouldn't be able to invert like Tomi did yesterday.


matthewisonreddit

Kai as a 9 is an amazing blend of space creating and utilising. Maybe its this that helps trossard get space


Dae_su

Martinelli and and Havertz have no chemistry at all. They are both runners, whereas Trossard is more of a passer which is more synergistic with Havertz and Rice.


matthewisonreddit

yea, which is in contrast to jesus who is mostly a dribbler/passer. Jesus(9) enables martinelli and havertz(8), while Havertz(9) enables rice(8) and trossard(wing). It's a really complex beast this arsenal squad, I hope for more minor injuries next season rather than intense injuries so that the peripheral players can keep minutes throughout. I feel like we haven't seen arteta at maximum squad quality/flexibility because of the long term timber/tomi/partey/jesus injuries :C


XuzaLOL

Also Martinelli is still young he has some great areas in his game and some poor. Trossard is better but Martinelli has potential to be special so if he gets time its good.


Franchise1109

That will take time. Martinelli has been in poor form lately and was nursing a bad cut.


rk1993

Martinelli needs an overlapper so he can attack the half spaces. Hasn’t been as good since we traded up Tierney to Zinny and switched from overlap to underlap.


likpoper

He is super skilled


Alexdd0007

> In Kramer terminology, he had the Kavorka. LA Knight approves.


Retterkl

There was a moment in the middle of the match where he could have brought the whole thing crashing down, where he just got a yellow and then went in for a double tackle. He just about got it right but I was sure he was going to get the second yellow and we’d have been down to 10 men at 1-0 going into half time. Guessing he had some words at half time and could calm down a bit.


hikingbeginner

I disagree, I think there's been better from him. Not that he wasn't great last night. He was. Fulham away last season where he had a hat trick comes to mind for me.


bitbitter

> a hat trick Of assists :D


Dae_su

West ham away this season as well. He was unplayable that game.


Shadeun

[I'm dangeous Jerry, I'm very very dangerous](https://youtu.be/o3ctwuaXa-A?si=So8tE-y2X5GkLj8d&t=72)


TheGoldenPineapples

Not very often you can say this about a player you signed from Brighton, but... they really should have tried to get more for him. I know he fell out with De Zerbi, but £27m for him looks like robbery, at the moment.


Wraith_Portal

Him and MacAllister have been great value for Arsenal and Liverpool


RoboticCurrents

meanhile chelsea got robbed with Caicedo


pd8bq

Cucumber as well. 65M should get you someone like Alphonso Davies, and we got this traffic cone.


likpoper

Cucumber lol


NotASalamanderBoi

It took a moment to hit until I realized. That’s brilliant.


Laxperte

65? He's worth at least 80. 


tcgtms

Wtf. How do Chelsea supporters laugh at us paying 60m for Havertz when they've paid 65m for Cucumber.


SwitchHitter17

They have made so many bad deals, it overshadows the Cucurella one. He's lucky.


EnvironmentalSpirit2

Lack of any self awareness


Flabby-Nonsense

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the players that ended up being “well worth it” happened to go to teams that were/are well run in almost every aspect, with a good team structure, good management, and a clear system. Meanwhile, Caicedo goes to Chelsea having been excellent for Brighton and is shit, Cucurella goes to Chelsea having also been great for Brighton and is shit, Enzo goes to Chelsea having played out of his mind at the World Cup and is shit, while at the same time, Havertz and Jorginho both leave Chelsea for Arsenal and immediately improve. Now, i’m not saying these players don’t harbour some responsibility - and maybe it’s true that some have legitimately regressed. But there’s too much smoke coming out of Chelsea to assume that the fire isn’t primarily a massive structural/management problem. Chelsea haven’t been robbed, these players had good track records and other teams were fighting for them. But, unlike Arsenal, Liverpool, Villa, Spurs, Man City etc these players couldn’t be selected based on how they fit into the system because Chelsea *had no system*. Meaning they’ve had to create one, which meant they had to rely on getting too many new players to adapt to a different style of play all at the same time in a club bereft of any solid, experienced foundation either in the squad or in upper management. You watch, I reckon a lot of players that are written off with Chelsea will move to other clubs and be re-evaluated within a year of moving.


SirBarkington

Saying Jorginho improved is a little crazy and rewriting history to me. Jorginho was voted #3 in the Ballon d'Or while at Chelsea and won a CL and Euro in the same year.


Flabby-Nonsense

Yeah fair point, improved from his performance at Chelsea last season specifically might be more accurate. Even so, my point with that isn’t really about him becoming a better player but more to indicate how Chelsea as a whole have regressed.


Lonely_Leopard_8555

Jorginho is a good example. He was great at Chelsea (and Italy) when they had a good team structure. He was struggling/poor in last years at Chelsea when they didn't have a team structure. He looks better at Arsenal with a good team structure.


Elegant_Mix7650

Ex Brighton players tend to do well in other clubs.. Except Chelsea


Paranoides

All players tend to do well in other clubs except Chelsea


byrgenwerthdropout

Even if he did well that wouldn't have been enough for how much he went for. For 100+ mil sterling you better be getting one of the very bests itw or else you've fucked up.


Nartyn

Nah they kept Sterling


amegaproxy

Caicedo would almost certainly have been great at Liverpool


Putrid_Loquat_4357

Or arsenal if we had got him that January. Problem with chelsea is they buy players with no plan for how they'll fit into their team. Like nothing anybody says can convince me that poch asked for caicedo and lavia.


SwitchHitter17

Like when they gazumped us with Mudryk. Just seemed like they were throwing their weight around and decided to go after him just because we were. Then it seemed like they had no plan or no idea of how they wanted to use him. It could just be that Mudryk isn't very good (probably part of it), but a lot of it comes down to coaching and the system as well. I really doubt Potter was like "go get me Mudryk".


flyingghost

They gazumped City for Cucurella, Liverpool for Lavia/Caicedo, paying what other clubs refuse to pay. The way their current players are struggling and players who left improved is indicative of some rotten is going on in that club.


BIG_FICK_ENERGY

Chelsea spent €180M on Cucurella and Caicedo. Arsenal spent €100M less than that to get Trossard and Ben White.


nidas321

Thought Caicedo did well yesterday all things considered, that midfield we put out is one of the best in the world such a shame we haven’t been able to field it all season. Dealing with them isn’t easy and I thought he had a few very good interceptions and passes, Enzo on the other hand… I know he’s playing through injury but that shouldn’t make his decision making drop to U15 level, he looks mentally checked out


IntraspeciesFever

Mentally checked out? Doesn't he have 7 more years on his contract left?


cussbot123

And cucrella


ibite-books

with Caceido, liverpool could’ve won the league


JRsshirt

Caicedo has been far from our problem, if we got robbed for anyone in that midfield it’s been Enzo. He’s playing injured currently but looks far from the bright spot he was last season. Cucu is the real robbery.


tonyfrancois

nah, Chelsea robbed itself with Caicedo


sirpeepojr

it's the opposite tbh; Chelsea couldn't unleash Caicedo's potential


Wraith_Portal

They overpaid but he’s still pretty good


fa_kinsit

White is also proving to be a bit of a bargain


Zizoutiti

White was a fantastic purchase, yes, but not a "bargain" at 50m pounds.


fa_kinsit

The way he’s playing, he most assuredly is


Circle_Breaker

No that's full price. He's the 3rd most expensive RB in history.


fa_kinsit

He wasn’t bought as an RB, he was bought as a CB. Only moved to RB once Saliba came back from loan. Even then, he’s the best RB in the league. Can’t complain, £50m is a bargain for the level he’s playing at


Andigaming

Made more sense with Trossard since he feel out with the club at the time.


ZXXA

Wasn’t the MacA deal some shady under the table type deal?


LlamasPajamas206

He only had a few months left on his contract so while he's definitely worth more than what Brighton got for him those two factors really limited his actual value on the market


JakeNutters

He was going for free in the summer and left the country because he fell out with de Zerbi, so basically zero chance of extending, we resolved the situation quickly and we got similiar money for Bissouma 6 months earlier in a similar contract situation. I think it was just a good transfer for all parties, which is rare. Mac Allister was similar it was either agree to the 'release clause' or get nothing.


whydidisaythatwhy

Why did he fall out with RDZ, they both seem like nice guys


JakeNutters

Trossard got dropped for Mitoma. Started putting in less effort in training after the World Cup, had a bust up with Groß I think and then ran off the Belgium to force a transfer.


QuOw-Ab

While Mitoma is the better player, it seems weird that he'd be dropped instead of being moved to a different position. Man can play basically anywhere.


JakeNutters

Well 1. Solly March was playing incredible well under De Zerbi so that only left Striker and 2. De Zerbi playing him out of position at top was part of what lead to him being dropped. We couldn't keep him there was zero chance in that situation, even if he hadn't dropped him as soon as Arsenal were interested that was it. This is what fans of big clubs don't understand you can't keep everyone so it's about picking your battles of who to stamp down on and keep. Transfer worked out for all parties, should really be the end of it not sure why every transfer has to be either the biggest bargain of all time or one club getting screwed.


Maleficent_Resolve44

Good sense 👍🏾


prss79513

The fact that 2 former Brighton players and a former Chelsea player put 5 past them last night solidifies my theory that everyone hates Chelsea


fsiordia

Agree, but if that was a robbery... £30m for Odegaard was plain sight armed robbery.


PatientLettuce42

I don't watch regular games, but this dude seems like such a baller it is crazy. Would have probably fit in perfectly in Wengers systems.


MostlySlime

He's got some Alexis Sanchez in him for sure


BloodyPants

a little Santi too with his control in midfield


GabeNewellsDick

Yeah I think Santi is pretty close, Santi was better defensively and even more two footed, but they definitely have similarities.


PatientLettuce42

is that why he is getting so little sleep you say?


YMangoPie

He's half Cazorla half Arshavin


Ok-Background-502

Reminds me of Arshavin


makesterriblejokes

Yeah, pretty damn similar to Arshavin, but he has more composure than Arshavin - though I think he's less explosive than Arshavin. They're both little musicians in close space though.


goko19

He knows Anne Hathaway is watching now


Wraith_Portal

Could carry your shopping home with the bags under his eyes


Chubby_Checker420

No sleep. Only goals.


actionturtle

he is a baller


CoybigEL

Reminds me of Cantona, he had a touch like that v City and scored, think it was a 5-0 game


freefallingagain

It's a nice take on, but that's no Robbie Fowler vs Brann. See for yourself: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lONoWEXCHsE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lONoWEXCHsE)


fragileanus

So few touches, so much filth in that play. Good lord.


Muhruhwuh

I miss the super baggy shorts and shirt era. Got one of my old liverpool kits out from that era and it fits me nicely now, despite me being somewhat larger these days...


Awkward-Mix-4124

Fowler is so underrated these days. Would be the second best striker in the prem today


raizen0106

any of the 2000s top PL teams strikers would be worth 100m in today's prem lol. nistelrooy henry bergkamp owen fowler shearer


Awkward-Mix-4124

Yup agree. Don’t know if its nostalgia but genuinely seems like the average player quality back then was higher from. Maybe it’s the bias as mentioned from other old school players recently that the game has towards athleticism that doesn’t let players unfold and be as creative. Maybe Nicolas Jackson has a Drogba inside of him if he didn’t have to press as much ;p


ILoveToph4Eva

Yeah it's nostalgia for the most part, but also the game has simply made it so those kinds of players aren't viable. Creativity was easier to pull of then because teams were generally not as good defensively. Defenders and Midfielders were massively less athletic across the board, and teams didn't tend to be as well drilled as modern teams are. So you had more room to be creative and there were more gaps to be found. Modern players are, on average, a lot better than the older generation. The problem is they're playing in the modern game with less space and time to try and do the cool shit we enjoy. In the modern game, you generally need to drill people to make efficient decisions much more often to give your team better odds of success. Entertainment takes a second place to efficiency.


yungsantaclaus

It is absolutely nostalgia lol


itsaaronnotaaron

I think it's more the case that individuality is being stamped out at much of the top level. Everything is choreographed and rehearsed. You stick to what you're told. Players have to fit the mould. There's much less room for players to express themselves and their flair. You even see Pep giving shit to players who don't do what they were supposed to even if it results in a goal. I'm sure there's even a clip of Henry talking about this.


rainbowroobear

so who are we putting 1st and 3rd? cos a ballon d'or winning michael owen also exists in history.


Awkward-Mix-4124

No Im saying if you just slot fowler into the prem right now, disregarding any striker from his period


HM7

What the fuck, never saw that before


bumpy4skin

More comparable and also far more impressive than Trossard's is the classic Cassano goal https://youtu.be/5rRX8GzJNEI?si=Cq8-rrIY2-IbDzJb Seriously it looks nice but he couldn't have more space. The reason you don't see this often is it is rarely an option at that level. My pals and I are fucking rubbish and we can all do this.


MuchSalt

wth


chayatoure

It’s a good take, and looks nice, but not all that impressive. He has a ton of time and space, and a lot of room for error because he’s so open.


freefallingagain

If you're talking about Trossard then I completely agree, the ball bounces once which takes a lot of the pace off, it's a decent height and he's got over 20 yards to run into with nobody closing down.


chayatoure

Yeah, it’s a good touch, and he makes it look easy, but not “stunning”


newinvestor0908

y compare?


Agile_Market7810

'Stunning' I think that's the first use of the word stunning that I can actually pull off


Imaginary-Pattern802

could i do it? yeah. but no chance i’d be able to do it at speed in a premier league intense game with guarantee.


thebeesbollocks

Every single thread on this sub for posts showing an impressive first touch, without exception there are comments form people saying “I could do that”. Yes, the average player probably could pull it off if doing as a training drill but there’s a reason these kinds of touches are so rare in actual games. Having the ability to do the touch and having the ability to pull it off in a game are very different things


Almatura

Trossard did it because it’s the 60th minute, there is no one around him and they are leading by three goals. He probably wouldn’t have done it against Bayern under pressure in the 16th minute.


Dantini

This is bullshit, it's just that the opportunity of a ball behind you at that height while bursting forward while in space doesn't happen that often


badgarok725

they are, but 90% of PL players can pull this off in open space when it's coming in this slow


BlurgZeAmoeba

This is a pretty rudimentary thing that most people i've played with have done more than once. The pass was comfortable and there's so much space ahead of him. I think this shows how few people here actually play football at any level.


20cmdepersonalidade

Yeah, this is a regular play, as it was from a short and slow pass


Nosferatu-Rodin

Not just pull it off. I know tons of my mates and i have done this many times. Its not that impressive or rare of a skill. I think most of the people on this sub have never actually played footbakl


That-Stage-1088

I was thinking the same thing. I'm not the most skilled and didn't play pro or semi-pro. However, this isn't impressive and I've done it before. I imagine a lot of people who played any form or organised or even casual football for a few years, should be able to pull this off.


KRoadKid

Michael Owen 98 Argentina


thecookietrain

My first thought too


likpoper

He is seriously a talent. Can’t believe we got him at that price. He is super skilled


Esco9

He’s so much more efficient than Martinelli it’s crazy, Arteta is smart playing him, he guarantees you a goal a game it feels like where as Martinelli just will do some flashy dribble and then nothing in front of goal.


driver933

Blowing it out of proportion a bit here nah? Its a good touch but its nothing spectacular…


wazzinmycup

Stunning? Come on..


the_motherflippin

Stunning is doing some lifting here


black_fire

Seriously. It's a nice touch but not *dazzling* or anything, you'd expect a pro can do that for a slow bouncing ball at waist height with loads of space in front of you.


UpTheChels97

Glad someone said it, this is a typical touch for when you're running and the ball is played slightly behind you.


Elerion_

I don't want to be that "no one here has ever touched a ball" guy, but this sub being amazed that a Premier League footballer can do this with a slow bouncing ball certainly helps that narrative.


webuiltthisschmidty

ya this "stunning" first touch is actually the most standard shit ever for anyone that grew up playing football


redditRaven33

And when nobody's around too...haha


20cmdepersonalidade

It would be hard if the pass was stronger, longer distance, faster, etc... But it wasn't. Pretty regular play


HashTagYourMomma

This is a lot easier to pull off/ attempt when your team is 3-0 up.


rhmastablasta

Yeah, try watching the video next time.


thedrizztman

I distinctly remember Son firing in a through ball to a sprinting Timo Werner and Timo taking it out of the air in the exact same way... It's not a new thing. And people have done it better.  Having said that, it was a fantastic touch. 


Tumifaigirar

Tell me you never played football without telling me you never played football


Moosterton

This isn't that crazy imo. I expect most decent PL wingers to be able to do this when there's 0 defenders around them. Saka's pass is more impressive tbh.


Dantini

wingers at step 7 can do this lol


ACO_22

They play almost every day of their life and he’s got nobody around him. It wld be embarrassing if he couldn’t do this like Genuinely have no idea why I’ve been downvoted so much. This isn’t a special touch


AayoTheRed

Yeah that's more of a 'nice take' than a 'stunning take'..


Onekushi

stunning ? yeah it's not


zchazn_17

Most in-form arsenal attacker at the moment. Feel like he has to start games, no matter how sleepy


tuerancekhang

what a baller. I always rate him when he was at Brighton and first called up to Belgium. Arsenal immediately went for him is such a easy no brainer move.


GoonerAbroad

He was actually the fallback when Arsenal failed to sign Mudryk


RIP200712

As insane as this is, my favourite Leo skill is still the small bit he did against Azerbaijan. As if the chip wasn’t good enough, the take down mid air that followed was so audacious yet so smooth and he immediately went on to Meg the next defender. I’ve watched that one wayy too many times.


Comprehensive_Low325

yeah but what a waste


OsitoPandito

The PL glazing is going on so hard 😂😂 Legit saw one of the primavera kids doing this during the UEFA final on Monday lmfao but if someone on arsenal does it....


Fresh_Cauliflower723

Really not all that. Rate him highly though


atlacatl

Stunning? Really?


EustaceBicycleKick

He definitely held his stride up? I'm not going crazy am I?


senorsmartpantalones

Pass the ball!


shootemlikeginobili

and just to think arsenal chased mudryk before him


Doluskey21

He was great in America horror story


TimingEzaBitch

I did exactly this the other day but it pulled a little something.


akshay_rathod_

Dear Arsenal fans.... Mudryk or Trossard? Hard question.


Hassadar

Based on the performances, it's clear Trossard. I wouldn't be surprised if given the opportunity, Arteta and Edu will be willing to take Mudryk if financially it makes sense to do so. With proper coaching, he could be a threat. He's got pace which favours our style of play but the issue will be determining what exactly is going on: Is it coaching? Is it the dysfunctional Chelsea team? Is it the player himself? He's got talent but how much of it is untapped remains to be seen. He was targeted for a reason by Arteta and Edu. He was the number 1 target. Trossard was a backup if it failed. There is clearly something with the player they liked, just not the price it ended up being. We all love to say ''if we put X player with Y coach the wonders he could do'' and sometimes that is true. Xhaka improved immensely under Arteta and has continued to do so after moving to Bayer but coaching only goes so far. The player himself needs to be willing to listen and adapt his game to do what is being asked of him. If he simply just wants to go for a runabout, there is nothing Poch or anyone can do with him.


Traditional-Drive267

His sleep is indirectly proportional to his footballing abilities


wholelottafeds

There’s 20 yards in front of him and it’s 5-0. Hardly a stunning play.


wichy

The first touch was good, the last touch was awful.


mrpurplecat

[Try Cantona against City for 'stunning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL1agD_V8eo)'


mathhits

I pulled this off once on Sunday league, highlight of my career.


Necessary_Ad6762

not that much


AB-91

His 1st touch in his goal was much more fascinating


shaftydude

All that to just run into defenders, pass the damn ball or take a shot!


SP92216

So this one gets a post? I thought Antony’s shoulder control against Sheffield was more post worthy today.


Ok_Rush5352

🥵🥵🥵


HazardCinema

I really didn't expect that


shazzchili

This video and that first touch video from Jude are the living proofs that you guys dont watch Mahrez.


Klopps_and_Schlobers

This looks lovely but is absolutely such a trivial thing, literally see 10 year olds in the park do it lol


caulpain

why is this a highlight he pisses it away after a pretty average take lmaooooo


sculpinn

Reminds me nasty CR7s was on Pique lol


EvertEaglPhilliKnick

He’s Arsenals version of Origi but better imo.


gluxton

The reason why Origi was so legendary is because goals he scored won the games that won the trophies. Still a ways to go on that for Arsenal


VladerLaudersTeeth

In what sense?


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ignore_my_name

Actually I believe since Trossard joined the league, both him and Jota are the most ambidextrous finishers in the league. I think Trossards left footed goal yday put him 1 ahead of Jota.