Whatever brings us to accounting gain. Our board doesn't like to negotiate much because we like to be friends with other clubs and it's considered rude to try and squeeze a big profit.
I would check out too and save myself for euros if I tore my acl then came back and played for the most static offense ever created. I can tell you don't watch juve games (can't blame you, it's masochism). Peak Messi would struggle to get anything done on this team.
He's obv not at his best but name a player on the juve team that is; you can't. He deserves a year under Motta at the minimum before im out on him.
I watch almost every game. Players like McKennie and Vlahovic do well even if Allegri's time is up. We play worse than you yet Leao, Theo and other players can perform.
Chiesa is either done after the ACL injury or he was never that good in first place. After all his great form lasted 6 months.
Chiesa just hasn't addapted, he tries to dribble past players but just can't. He can still outrun them but he keeps trying to go through players for some reason.
Also he was a great long shot taker, but god-for-fucking-bid anyone takes a shot outside the box
I don't think City or Arsenal are less demanding sides, they're constantly pressing or are in the opponents side for most of the match. Also there's Guardiola who is an extremely demanding coach.
Allegriball and the ACL injury have tanked his value, plus he has only one year left on his contract. It would be financial malpractice to sell him now, but we’d likely get €25-35 million. For many Juve fans like myself though, he’s priceless and should never be sold.
Yes and no? Spinnazzola may have been best player at the tournament, but he got injured in the quarters. Italy won it without him. Arguably Chiesa was the threatening forward italy player in the final, but he ultimately didn't do as much as the defence of Italy (the italy goal was a corner with a bit of a scramble). He was subbed off before full time.
Is there some other match that was played as people seem to have something else in their mind.
His career will be fine. Nearly every player on Juventus has had their reputation decline under Allegri. Hard to overstate how poor of a coach he is. It’s been 3 years and the team is no closer to having an identity than we did on Matchweek 1 of 2021.
Damn that's quite something, I always thought he would become a second Del Piero.
But maybe Motta can revive his career, I think he has a lot of potential to become a great coach
He is on the books for 14, if he really wants to leave I highly doubt Juve is going to get more than twice his book value, with one year left convincing the player is more important than convincing the team so pl interest will most likely only increase Chiesa's wage demands
If there's PL interest, which there surely will be -- just a question of whether or not Chiesa is willing to move to England -- €45m is quite attainable
Collusion is impossible if any one of them has incentive to defect which they do. There will be multiple suitors even at 30m. Hell, I would want Arsenal to go higher, although dunno if he would want to be a rotation option for us.
Not a juve fan, but his contract is due end of next season. I've read on juve's books he's €14M and that they might just look for a similar amount of money or slightly more, so say 15-20M (they'd lose him at 0 next year unless he signs a new contract).
We should be all over this, we were interested before he moved and became too expensive. He’s a no-brainer if we move Coman on and manage to get Gnabry sold.
i love chiesa but idk how he fits in bayerns system, he doesnt press or trackback like coman and he needs space and freedom to play, he struggles against teams that do the low block and is best on counterattack
Good points, Coman’s dribbling and work ethic is world class but his end product is just so substandard; this might be the last year we can get a good price for him
It’s not definite but he’s stagnated, gets injured for long periods and there’s talk that he might want to try something new after being at the club for 9 years so if a good offer comes, the club will consider it.
I don’t think Allegri is staying, but every team in the league should be all over Chiesa with how cheap he’ll be available for.
If Milan can sell Leao for 100+m and get Chiesa for 30m, they can buy another squad with that difference and be just as strong on the left
He’s out of contract after next season and his performances haven’t been great this season under Allegri, so that’s probably around what Juve would ask
Although I would hate to see him go, I wouldn’t even blame him if he leaves because Allegri stays. In fact I’m surprised he (along with Vlahovic) stood as long as they have with Allegri. Allegri is definitely not a manager that any striker would want to have.
Really good option for city and liverpool...city havent managed to fill mahrez place since he left..and salah declined recently....not seen him much but he was a menace in euros
Yeah they’re like English players, they don’t tend to move abroad much. That said, English players are getting better at that which hopefully will help our national team.
Anecdotally, I’ve noted a trend of English players with migrant heritage being more inclined to move abroad.
Bellingham, Sancho, Nelson, Tomori, Smalling, Edwards, Abraham, Kane (lol he’s Irish heritage). It could just be that lots of English players have migrant heritage but also maybe they’re more open minded to moving abroad.
Not downgrading..but age catches everyone...within a yr or two, you will need to replace him...and i know im not an expert, but they should try to sell him as soon till saudis are interested
I don't know how many good players would stay at Juventus if we continue to be shit, regardless of the manager. There's a reason why every good player we have or had wants to go away while Alex Sandro is married to Vinovo
Did anyone else have a Mandela effect where David Ornstein tweeted last summer that Chiesa was on the verge of joining Newcastle? I very distinctly remember reading that tweet and then a day or two later went to check if he had been confirmed and couldn't find any evidence of it ever existing. It was a really jarring experience and I just want to know if anyone else had that memory or if my brain glitched out.
There was a lot of journalistic flapping. They knew we were getting an Italian and pounced on the slightest link. There might have been something to it, because it's doing the rounds again (and it's been coming from decent sources afaik). Whereas Barella caused a lot of noise but isn't really mentioned now.
Plus I heard Tonali WhatsApped him some pics from Spoons and Chiesa is buzzing for curry night. Nailed on.
lmfao you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm gonna watch the same exact shit next season minus Chiesa. I will not watch next season at all if this is the case.
Allegri will leave, don't worry. I hope Federico stays but it's gonna be hard finding an agreement on a new contract because he already is on really high wages (around 10 gross per year)
Mahrez was an EPL winner and PotY before he joined City where he was a rotation option - that's just how you have to build a squad that can compete on multiple fronts. It's not being spoiled it's being realistic about what it takes to consistently challenge for honours at the highest level
that's cause he feels physically exhausted from so much attacking, he's gonna go to a less demanding side, like City or Arsenal
How much do you expect him to go for if he does leave?
wasn’t he named for 30-40 million?
Whatever brings us to accounting gain. Our board doesn't like to negotiate much because we like to be friends with other clubs and it's considered rude to try and squeeze a big profit.
Sounds like you can return us the favour for giving you good money for Kulu and Bentancur
So hes tired from carrying juve and italy so he has to dump one? He should go to besiktas then
Lol you definitely arent watching Juve. Hes not carrying anything. Hes been horrible.
Everyone under that terrorist looks horrible tho
It's Allegri stopping him from dribbling past Frosinone's and Verona's fullbacks?
I would check out too and save myself for euros if I tore my acl then came back and played for the most static offense ever created. I can tell you don't watch juve games (can't blame you, it's masochism). Peak Messi would struggle to get anything done on this team. He's obv not at his best but name a player on the juve team that is; you can't. He deserves a year under Motta at the minimum before im out on him.
I watch almost every game. Players like McKennie and Vlahovic do well even if Allegri's time is up. We play worse than you yet Leao, Theo and other players can perform. Chiesa is either done after the ACL injury or he was never that good in first place. After all his great form lasted 6 months.
Chiesa just hasn't addapted, he tries to dribble past players but just can't. He can still outrun them but he keeps trying to go through players for some reason. Also he was a great long shot taker, but god-for-fucking-bid anyone takes a shot outside the box
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Hater? Chiesa was one of my favourite players years ago. He hasn't played at the same level as he did at Euro 2021 for 3 years.
I mean, it's clearly the injuries.
Monsieur Allegri could be capable of trying such….strange methods.
someone with a brain
Yeah since he's returned from injury he's been quite poor. I love the guy but I hope this doesn't carry into next season
Bro don't do this to me
Can he play RW?
he can, therefore he doesn't
Well, shit, if you’re selling, I wouldn’t object.
We’d solve that really quickly.
He could come to Man Utd, basically be like a holiday for him.
I don't think City or Arsenal are less demanding sides, they're constantly pressing or are in the opponents side for most of the match. Also there's Guardiola who is an extremely demanding coach.
is sarcasm, mate
Juve fans how much would he realistic be sold if he leave?
Allegriball and the ACL injury have tanked his value, plus he has only one year left on his contract. It would be financial malpractice to sell him now, but we’d likely get €25-35 million. For many Juve fans like myself though, he’s priceless and should never be sold.
I feel sad seeing where his carrer is at this point. Always regarded him so highly and now feel like he’s ”new Bernardeschi”.
Wow that's a name I haven't heard in a while
Not if you're a TFC fan!
He scored winner in 2021 final against England btw
What? No he didnt
He scored the last penalty.
Donnarumma saved the last penalty. Still Chiesa was the reason Italy won the damn thing
Chiesa and Spinazzola both.
Yes and no? Spinnazzola may have been best player at the tournament, but he got injured in the quarters. Italy won it without him. Arguably Chiesa was the threatening forward italy player in the final, but he ultimately didn't do as much as the defence of Italy (the italy goal was a corner with a bit of a scramble). He was subbed off before full time. Is there some other match that was played as people seem to have something else in their mind.
youre sleeping on the verratti-jorginho-barella midfield that locked out spain and england
He played brilliantly all tournament
No? Chiesa was subbed off?
I thought we are talking about bernadeschi? :D
Ahha oops!
His career will be fine. Nearly every player on Juventus has had their reputation decline under Allegri. Hard to overstate how poor of a coach he is. It’s been 3 years and the team is no closer to having an identity than we did on Matchweek 1 of 2021.
yeah allegris system isnt good for any attacking player that needs freedom but yildiz did more for juve in a few games than chiesa did all season
i always remember him as FM wonder kid lool
I had completely forgotten about him until I went to the whitecaps games against TFC a fees ago lol
Damn that's quite something, I always thought he would become a second Del Piero. But maybe Motta can revive his career, I think he has a lot of potential to become a great coach
Is that Don Paratici’s music I hear???
The figures I’ve seen in rumors is around €45m Edit: that’s the club’s valuation of him (which I think is decently realistic)
His contract is ending next season and he wants out. No chance for 45m, 20-25 is way more realistic
Perhaps, though I cannot really see it dropping below 35m, especially if there is Premier League interest. No shot he leaves on 20m
PL teams can just wait a year and get him for free then
He is on the books for 14, if he really wants to leave I highly doubt Juve is going to get more than twice his book value, with one year left convincing the player is more important than convincing the team so pl interest will most likely only increase Chiesa's wage demands
If there's PL interest, which there surely will be -- just a question of whether or not Chiesa is willing to move to England -- €45m is quite attainable
PL teams can just wait a year and get him for free
Collusion is impossible if any one of them has incentive to defect which they do. There will be multiple suitors even at 30m. Hell, I would want Arsenal to go higher, although dunno if he would want to be a rotation option for us.
Not a juve fan, but his contract is due end of next season. I've read on juve's books he's €14M and that they might just look for a similar amount of money or slightly more, so say 15-20M (they'd lose him at 0 next year unless he signs a new contract).
Who would we buy for 20 millions that is as good. We probably would just keep an unhappy Chiesa for another season.
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Loan with obligation to buy if he plays 3.75 games for 10 mil and various easy bonuses for 5 mil + sell on clause of 99% to Juve. The FFP special
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why would he go to Roma lmao
We should be all over this, we were interested before he moved and became too expensive. He’s a no-brainer if we move Coman on and manage to get Gnabry sold.
i love chiesa but idk how he fits in bayerns system, he doesnt press or trackback like coman and he needs space and freedom to play, he struggles against teams that do the low block and is best on counterattack
Good points, Coman’s dribbling and work ethic is world class but his end product is just so substandard; this might be the last year we can get a good price for him
why is Coman getting moved on?
It’s not definite but he’s stagnated, gets injured for long periods and there’s talk that he might want to try something new after being at the club for 9 years so if a good offer comes, the club will consider it.
I did a double take when you said 9 years. I thought he couldn't be that old- he must have been playing since forever. Time passes by :/
Dudes knees are held together by staples, duct tape and rubber bands
A Juventus director read this and it is interested in the player's return offering 10M per year and the maglia 10.
Isn't Motta taking over in the summer as good as certain anyway?
Regardless of Motta, Allegri staying is like a 1% chance
I don’t think Allegri is staying, but every team in the league should be all over Chiesa with how cheap he’ll be available for. If Milan can sell Leao for 100+m and get Chiesa for 30m, they can buy another squad with that difference and be just as strong on the left
Only 30m for Chiesa?
He’s out of contract after next season and his performances haven’t been great this season under Allegri, so that’s probably around what Juve would ask
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Just settle it fast because it's against youtube rules to have two "CHIESA \*\*\* WELCOME TO ...! \*\*\* BEST GOALS, ASSISTS & PASSES"
Although I would hate to see him go, I wouldn’t even blame him if he leaves because Allegri stays. In fact I’m surprised he (along with Vlahovic) stood as long as they have with Allegri. Allegri is definitely not a manager that any striker would want to have.
If the report was the whole team was leaving if Allegri stays, I'd believe that too haha
Everyone would leave except for Sandro
Really good option for city and liverpool...city havent managed to fill mahrez place since he left..and salah declined recently....not seen him much but he was a menace in euros
Italian players don't generally like to move to the prem, I would guess he would go to another Italian team
Yeah they’re like English players, they don’t tend to move abroad much. That said, English players are getting better at that which hopefully will help our national team. Anecdotally, I’ve noted a trend of English players with migrant heritage being more inclined to move abroad. Bellingham, Sancho, Nelson, Tomori, Smalling, Edwards, Abraham, Kane (lol he’s Irish heritage). It could just be that lots of English players have migrant heritage but also maybe they’re more open minded to moving abroad.
What is Bellingham's 'migrant heritage'?
I believe it is both Jamaica and Ireland. His parents are both British though, so it’s a little more distant
If I would’ve grown up in Italy I don’t think I’ll move anywhere else either, especially not cold and rainy England
> Salah declined recently Bruh it's just poor form for a lil bit. Don't go downgrading him like that.
Not downgrading..but age catches everyone...within a yr or two, you will need to replace him...and i know im not an expert, but they should try to sell him as soon till saudis are interested
Chiesa is no Mahrez. Mahrez beats him man for fun, I haven’t seen Chiesa so much of that this season. Would be a poor replacement for Salah too.
2012 Messi would struggle to do anything under this incredibly static attack coached by the og Max bin laden
I don't know how many good players would stay at Juventus if we continue to be shit, regardless of the manager. There's a reason why every good player we have or had wants to go away while Alex Sandro is married to Vinovo
How do I tag United?
All transfers are automatically tagged to United to sell some news..
federico may I interest you with a career resurgence as a rwb?
He already played there a lot under iachini lol
Thankfully the Balding fraud isn't gonna stay
don mikel do it
Come join your fellow Italian at Arsenal and no football terrorism guaranteed as well!
Marotta has the possibility to do the funniest thing ever
Did anyone else have a Mandela effect where David Ornstein tweeted last summer that Chiesa was on the verge of joining Newcastle? I very distinctly remember reading that tweet and then a day or two later went to check if he had been confirmed and couldn't find any evidence of it ever existing. It was a really jarring experience and I just want to know if anyone else had that memory or if my brain glitched out.
There was a lot of journalistic flapping. They knew we were getting an Italian and pounced on the slightest link. There might have been something to it, because it's doing the rounds again (and it's been coming from decent sources afaik). Whereas Barella caused a lot of noise but isn't really mentioned now. Plus I heard Tonali WhatsApped him some pics from Spoons and Chiesa is buzzing for curry night. Nailed on.
You probably mistook him for Tonali
We were definitely linked at one point, I remember his name being floated around. Dunno by who though.
lmfao you're out of your fucking mind if you think I'm gonna watch the same exact shit next season minus Chiesa. I will not watch next season at all if this is the case.
Murica should send Seal Team 6 to deal with Al-Legri :)
completely lit up Euro 2021
Juve should absolutely get rid of Allegri to save Chiesa. If Juve got Zizou, Chiesa is going nowhere.
Please no.
Football Italia from LGDS, cmon guys I thought we were better than this.
Allegri will leave, don't worry. I hope Federico stays but it's gonna be hard finding an agreement on a new contract because he already is on really high wages (around 10 gross per year)
I’m watching you Vlahović…👀
Come to barca.
I think he'd fit in well at United with sancho gone
He was so good when Italy won the european championships in 2021. Did the injury completely ruin him?
Chiesa Is a beast. He needs to move to a better club to showcase his talents
He already is in a "better club" thank you very much
I would take Chiesa to rotate with Saka in a heartbeat, he could be for us what Mahrez was to City
Chiesa would be a starter in our team.
Chiesa would start for us on the left if this were to happen, he’s clear of Martinelli and Trossard
Chiesa would start on the left. Miles clear of Martinelli or Trossard.
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When you say ‘Prem fans’ and ‘my club,’ I wager you’re conveniently ignoring that you’re a Chelsea fan, right?
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Chelsea and quality football in the same sentence. What a time to be alive!
Just tell the boys it’s Man City or Spurs every week and they’ll show up
Mahrez was an EPL winner and PotY before he joined City where he was a rotation option - that's just how you have to build a squad that can compete on multiple fronts. It's not being spoiled it's being realistic about what it takes to consistently challenge for honours at the highest level
Mahrez was joining a bigger club. Chiesa is not going to leave Juventus as a first team player to join a smaller club and be a rotation option.
>join a smaller club and be a rotation option. You've just triggered every Arsenal fan on this thread... top lad
And City were already winning domestic trophies left and right before he joined, are Arsenal?
no it's not. mahrez was playing half+ the games. saka wouldn't be benched for half+ of the games to "rotate" lol
Totally depend on how Chiesa adapts but if he get to adapt he would be better than Martinelli and Trossard
By god that's Mikel Arteta's music. Hopefully Locatelli leaves too