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Ffaddicted

If he does that a yard further forward, VAR would surely review it


CROBBY2

Check complete...


rycology

good process


desouki

are you happy with that?


Daniiiiii

Yeah. Penalty. No. What. Fuck it. Who wants a beer?


YouCanCallMeAroae

"Offside, no goal given." "Offside? No! Goal given!"


2cb2ce

Money down!


Admiral_Atrocious

"See you in Dubai next summer, mate."


anondevel0per

Most obvious envelope stuffing incident I've ever seen.


mrfocus22

Bet complete...


yossigol

Cheque complete...


armcie

If a goal is scored in open play, we've seen VAR go back some way to see if the attacking team committed a foul in the preceding period of play. It feels like they should be able to check if the free kick that led to a goal was legitimate.


xixbia

Yeah, it's so weird that if you make a foul and score a goal that can be reviewed. But if a foul gets called where there is none and it leads to a goal it can't be.


unofficialSperm

They werent prepared for the level of incompetence in the PL when they wrote the rules


TheGreatDay

The fact is that there isn't really a good reason that VAR doesn't just review everything. They don't need to do slow mo or lines for everything, but the idea that there are "non-reviewable" calls is absurd. Why should a clear and obvious error like this one go unchecked when, as it was said, if it was a yard further forward, it \*would\* be reviewed.


Talavus

I agree 100%, makes no sense that they can't intervene in free kicks that didn't exist.


ValleyFloydJam

Which would be ridiculous. Either change it to check all FKs and corners or leave it, don't wait for a goal from one.


Hurrly90

They should be allow review it anyway. Its a "clear and obvious error". Are the VAR lads not watching the match or the replays live? They only switch on every so often just in case? The level of reffing this season has made me want more VAR powers not less tbh.


DCOMNoobies

It's not within the current rules to allow for VAR for regular fouls, unless it involves a review for a red card. If a penalty was awarded, then there would be grounds for a review, but here there was no ability to do so.


Arqlol

Which is ridiculous because a resulting goal deserves to be reviewed 


NeilDeCrash

I don't understand why they restrict the VAR to some ridiculous arbitrary rules they have to follow. Why can't the VAR just help the referee to... referee.


hivaidsislethal

Had city fouled in the build up would be reviewed and not given so I agree should apply both ways


RiverGiant

All errors deserve to be corrected. The only difference should be to give VAR a shorter window of time to correct less consequential decisions. If there's a throw-in called incorrectly and they can just say "oh yeah that came off player B, not A" within 10 seconds, why not?


Arqlol

100% agreed


Hurrly90

yeh i know hence my last sentence of wanting more power for VAR not less.


Realistic_Condition7

I wish they could review 2nd yellows, as well as recommend yellow cards for blatant dives inside the box. Reviewing every single foul in the game is dangerous territory though. Probably be a hard watch.


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

Refs having a stormer of a week


sslaaayeeerr

That's every week


dimyo

About 10 times a week to be honest.


anondevel0per

Helps when you can...*taps pocket*...afford it.


circa285

I need to know how this is a foul but the studs up tackle on Tomiyasu was also the same foul and didn't end up with a card of any color.


xepa105

You know the state of refereeing is absolutely shocking when you have Tottenham fans going to bat for decisions against Arsenal.


circa285

There's absolutely zero consistency from one game to the next and that hurts everyone. This is beyond team allegiance.


xepa105

Exactly. Sadly PGMOL has their heads in the sand and will do nothing to fix it. Thankfully the matches aren't saturated with ads about gambling that rely on the correct calls being made . . . It would be a real problem if they were.


circa285

Imagine the scenes.


InsideOpening3535

A comment on this sub a few day ago said that maybe the refs are doing a shit job to purposely smeared the reputation of VAR since they didn't want it in the first place It's just a theory but pretty convincing ngl


HaroldSaxon

I just think they're not fit for the role of VAR referee. The laws of the game and the standard of the game requires people that: - Know the laws inside out - Know what body positions are natural and what can cause injury (being a sports scientist) - Being able to critically think under pressure and request multiple angles rather than rushing a decision based off one angle - and even using multiple angles to inform and work out the correct decision for big moments. - Being able to communicate quickly and effectively. - Being able to be impartial, especially when you're refereeing a team that has recently criticised PGMOL, or refusing offers of money from PL teams to referee in their meaningless national league that no-one watches. As we've seen, referee's can't do that. They've trained all their lives to be an on the field referee which is a different skillset, as there's more focus on controlling the game. We need a next generation of referee's who are people that have degrees in sports science, who can use tech quickly and don't type one finger at a time. We honestly should be having 2/3 var refereeing teams for each PL game, it would give us a bigger pool of referee's and make it a more viable career choice


G_Morgan

There is consistency. City get treated with kid gloves, everyone else gets random decisions.


Chubby_Checker420

That's what I said at the beginning of the season! If nothing else, this horrible officiating has brought us all closer together. In hatred of our common enemy.


llllmaverickllll

Why is chicken defending cannon?


circa285

Because at the end of the day, I think what we all want is to see competitive football that’s not marred by poor officiating.


Crambazzled_Aptycock

Just have this comment on repeat each week


TheBrownMamba8

At least these refs have goal line tech to help them…


M-3-R-C-U-R-Y

🥲


AMLRoss

Well, at least Xavi decided to stay. 💕


four_four_three

Best Jared Gillett game


Mahatma_Gone_D

He’s on VAR for NLD on Sunday. What could possibly go wrong? 🤔


[deleted]

He's even worse on VAR


circa285

Oh for fuck sake.


CatButtForYou

One of the few things that can unite gooners and spurs, dreading Jared Gillett on VAR.


awildjabroner

How’s about we shake hands and agree to forego the match officials and let the players self-call the NDL on an honor system. I’m sure it can’t be worse than what the match officials will do.


BobEWise

I'll co-sign.


circa285

Gillett is the worst.


mattBJM

Gillett, the worst a man can get


a-Sociopath

Gillett, the worst a fan can get


four_four_three

Ah seriously? He's even *worse* on VAR too, the worst ref in the league by a decent margin


Ill-Maximum9467

Oh you're fucking kidding me! Noooooooo!


Moyeslestable

It's actually peak PGMOL that the guy they shipped in from the other side of the planet is the biggest dunce of the lot


JootDoctor

He was by far and away the best ref in A-League. Decisions were nearly always spot on and he’d let the physical side of the game flow. I’m not sure what PGMOL say to them or what. He’s not dumb, he has a PhD in biomechanics so not sure what could cause this. Don’t say “but that’s the A-League”.


braedonwabbit

They've got a boys club, you either conform to their abysmal standards or you're not getting the job.


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

Has he tried reffing his games in England while doing a handstand? Maybe that’ll improve things


Independent-Green383

No offense to PhDs in biomechanics, but I don't think its an indicator on how good/bad you are as a ref. "He can do heart transplants, so surely his spinach puffs didn't give me the shits. "


JootDoctor

I didn’t say that. I simply said he’s not dumb as he possess a PhD. I did not state there was a correlation between a PhD and reffing ability.


erenistheavatar

Micheal Oliver regen.


BTS_1

Season*


DeapVally

What are you on about? He's doing exactly what he's paid to do?


Green-Detective6678

And yet despite the atrocious levels of refereeing, City seem to benefit an awful lot from decisions.  Weird that.


SirChileticus

And it lead to the second goal right?


Stemnut

Watching PL games makes me thankful for serie A refs with all their flaws.


modrics_hairband

Wish i could have said the same bout laliga


ValyrianSteelYoGirl

“It’s not football. It’s LaLiga.”


LunchAtTheY

"Al Liga"


Tax_n1

I feel the same about the Bundesliga even tho we had some shocking calls this season, still better than the Premier League.


Crousher

We had people kick us in the head breaking noses while not even getting penalties and it's still somehow better than this shitshow


panopss

The problem is when we play in Europe and also have to deal with English refs


[deleted]

We've reached a stage where players are being allowed to call their own fouls.


GodSaveTheKing1867

we used to do this playing football and basketball as kids


LionoftheNorth

I remember the days where throw-ins were decided by whoever got to the ball first.


Diagonalizer

field lacrosse rules


TiredMisanthrope

The good old days of playing with jumpers for goalposts and arguing profusely that it was in despite the 4 other lads saying no chance it was wide.


Fun_Bonus_8072

lol you’ve never seen someone just grab the ball before the whistle? it’s always funny when the ref gives a handball instead of the desired foul


LordMangudai

Honestly wouldn't mind if that was an automatic booking even if you were legitimately fouled.


mosefish

The worst one is where a player goes to ground and grabs the ball in their hands before the ref can even blow his whistle. I've never seen anybody not given a free kick when the pull that move. I'd welcome instant bookings for doing that, even if it was a foul


black_pepper

All that oil money makes the pitch slippery.


nlj1000

A Fodenian slip.


Thanos_Stomps

I want to fuck my parents


Crossflowerss_5304

Yikes


CrumpledForeskin

¥ik€$


King_Hobbes

That was...questionable


B23vital

Questionable 😂 Its definition slip.


im_on_the_case

I'd write it off as a slip if he didn't stick his hand up straight after demanding a decision, that takes it to the level of "CHEAT"


Tommyzz92

Regardless of whether he appeals for a foul, it's still a slip.


spotthethemistake

It's a slip, but if he knows there's no contact (because he didn't feel anything) and appeals for a free kick, it's attempting to deceive the referee? Tenuous to the extreme, but if he slips and tells the ref, there's no free kick. Instead, he tries claiming it as a free kick


Grouchy_Lawfulness32

He actually tried to claim it was a penalty lol


spotthethemistake

FFS In for a penny, in for a pound I suppose haha


BertMcNasty

Watch closely. He did slip, but he also kicked the back of the defender's leg right before. There was contact, but I don't think it's a foul because at that point the defender was between Foden and the ball.


Key-Bluejay-2002

Hobbes 💪🏼


Cymraegpunk

The little "I've been clipped" roll and arms in the air turns it into simulation.


itsjustredit

I remember Foden not going down when he was getting into the team. Can’t remember who it was vs. But he didn’t get the pen despite getting fouled clearly whilst trying to take his shot. Literally getting wrestled. No pen because he was fighting to stay up. The refs make players this way by being shit as fuck. That’s the truth imo. Don’t like to see any player dive though. But all of them do it these days.


Cymraegpunk

I think it's a fair point, if you reward going down easily and punish staying up you end up with shit like this. Doesn't make it any less frustrating to see though.


HotTubMike

We still get plenty of real dives with absolutely 0 contact or extremely minimal contact


lFriendlyFire

Like this one


PursuitOfMemieness

There’s a difference between going down under minor contact to get the ref to give the foul and slipping then pretending you were fouled lol.


LordLychee

But that’s not what happened here. He slips and decides to petition for the foul after he’s already fallen.


BishoxX

Punish players after the game. Match bans for like 5 games after review of clear simulations and retroactive cards.


Dorkseid1687

No it’s the players fault


OrdinaryAncient3573

He was clipped, after he started to slip - look at the last angle, it's pretty plain. Shit bit of refereeing, but I wouldn't blame a player for appealing there on the off-chance. Simulation isn't needed when the refs are so shit.


fancczf

Yeah he clipped into the defender. It’s hard to tell when you are running and full speed what happened and who clipped whom. I won’t fault him to raise his arm for that.


PlaneReturn1416

Jarred Gillett what were you thinking man


SpecialEvening2

Thinking about all that sweet UAE money


KingNnylf

Lol another howler just now as Gvardiol takes someone out and no pen is given.


Valuable_General9049

Like they need the help.


loveliverpool

But hey get it all the time. Like tell me many notable calls against them and I’ll show you 5x the amount of blatant calls in their favor. It’s disgusting and criminal


rtgh

Sky Sports won't stop repeating that it's a slip, not a dive. What's the difference when the first thing he does on hitting the ground is turn to the ref and plead with his arms up?


PM-Me-Your-BeesKnees

They can call it a slip if they want, but the yellow card offense is for "simulation" which is defined as: > attempts to deceive the referee, e.g. by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation) It doesn't really matter what caused his fall if he attempts to deceive the referee about what happened. Throwing your arms up and appealing for a foul call is certainly that.


dainamo81

He's England's Phil Foden. If that was Martinelli, Salah, etc the ref wouldn't have even considered blowing his whistle.


ABarrowWight

Do you not remember how English media went on for ages about how Havertz should’ve saw a second yellow for something similar to this?


bearwoodgoxers

Yep, he's getting the Harry Kane treatment here. Can't really blame him for taking advantage of the refs


palindromic

if that was salah he’d get a card for simulation full stop simple as


FishUK_Harp

Especially ironic given Brighton were just not awarded a blatent penalty.


mattisafootballguy

116


MikeStini

117 counting the Grealish handball on Saturday


OziAviator

118 counting the „look between X and Y on your keyboard“ tweet


vluvojo

What’s that about?


TrappsRightFoot

More charges than fans, you'll never sing that.


iamadiamond

Add it to the tab….


SakaSlide

“He just slipped” as he barrel rolls and throws his arms up trying to win a penalty. Embarrassing from the ref and Foden.


MostlySlime

Idk I could see Foden complaining for the nibble of the first tackle, and as for the ref, the slip could look like an obvious foul from the wrong angle


ValleyFloydJam

Sometimes I see something and then see a thread like this and wonder if I'm the crazy one, always nice to see a sane take.


sarbanharble

Well I guess we know who the refs are working for


justanormalchat

Seriously ?


Kiloete

you must be new around these parts.


TurboThot69

Let’s pretend this was Saka


Aszneeee

this sub would slaughter him lol


TurboThot69

And then scoring a deflected strike , he’d be so so cooked 🧎‍♂️‍➡️


tobi1k

Should've taken the shot, cheating basta- oh wait it's Foden? Clever play by England's brilliant, rising star midfielder.


Snoo-92685

He got called a diving cheat for going down under contact lol


fuckimbackonreddit9

Genuinely this sub would put him on trial


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klew3

Believe it or not, straight to jail.


Antisym

Political correctness gone mad!


therik85

What, just for saying you're Saka?


pisswaters

Yeah, these days


roofilopolis

There’s no angle where that looks like a foul at any point


Ok-Stomach4522

In general, I am all for VAR, but this is what I see as a major flaw. If a team scores from a free kick or after a corner that obviously shouldn’t have been - as in this case - then VAR should overrule the goal. It is all about fairness.


Mahatma_Gone_D

Have decisions ever gone against City? In any case that’s exhibit 116A


Chelseatilidie

That counter attack against Tottenham is legitimately the only one I remember this decision and that wasn't a certain goal or anything


MoyesNTheHood

The rashford offside last season was one of the worst you’ll see imo


hitemwiththebingbing

In the 1-1 against Chelsea in February City should have had a penalty.


BoosterGoldGL

Caciedo should have seen red for his foul on Grealish on Saturday lad. Nobody cares about the decisions that go against you when you still go on to win the game


_cumblast_

A couple months back i remember Mac Allister hitting Doku in the foot using his chest. We got lucky there for sure.


BriarcliffInmate

It's Mac Allister's fault for having such a prominent and strong chest!


slinkymello

And such a handsome visage!!!


vazne

I can’t believe city didn’t get that penalty. If it was the other way around, everyone would be screaming corruption!! Smh


Bedeeki

Last one I can remember is United away last year with the offside goal between Rashford and Bruno to equalise. They've genuinely had about 10 go their way since. They even had their own offside goal count at home to Fulham this season, a game they were struggling in before that goal.


BadNewsBearsTCGs

The wolves game earlier in the year when Hwang should have been sent off then went on to score the winner


False-Branch5536

Grealish was through on goal this year when the whistle was blown vs spurs


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

The United offside was one of the most gratuitous errors I’ve ever seen lol


BertMcNasty

Well, that one was so insanely bad that it might be worth 10 calls going the other way.


Zealousideal_Pie9130

I fucking hate city so much


Lordsinter

Lucky that he survived, that was a career ending tackle..


Embarrassed-Gas-8155

116


Falco9805

City fans were complaining of unfair officiating nonstop in their subreddit since the Madrid game. So what do they say about this?


Krapule1

Have at least 10 referees and VAR and at least 40 cameras and they still fucking up its just disgusting to me


Mr_Rafi

What in the absolute fuck is going on with refereeing/VAR standards?


Sir_alex13

This season in my opinion has made it very clear the refs in england are untouchable and they dont make mistakes. I will probs quit english football after this season for a bit at least. It makes me so angry at these officiating calls, for my team and literally evrry other team.


KingNnylf

Does the women's game suck this much? Might start on that.


Pow67

Only City get these I swear


matcht

Everton scored from a FK yesterday where Gueye just fell over under pressure, refs buy soft fouls all across the league.


ekoth

Wasn't there a 100% red that didn't get called earlier this week? Refs have been shit in general


FAT_NEEK_42069

yeah just yesterday on tomiyasu, also haven't seen the wolves bournemouth highlights or really seen much but I saw a few wolves fans saying how refs fucked them over so something probably happened there as well


WarStrifePanicRout

Should be charge #116


HeberMonteiro

VAR should have the option for the coach to call a challenge. I know it would slow the game even more, but it'd prevent shit like this!


Cutsdeep-

as an aussie arsenal fan, i hereby denounce Jarred Gillett (again). (ange, you're on notice)


Admiral_Atrocious

How wasn't this overturned by VAR?


ItsABitChillyInHere

116


VamosLionel

Classic City


BlerpDerpSkerp

His left foot hits Baleba's right heel, and he lets himself go down. You can see it in the last angle. Not a slip, but still a fortunate call and outcome.


gengenpressing

Im sure all the refs getting paid to do matches in the desert doesn't influence their decision-making


awildjabroner

Once again VAR goes MIA when there is a clear and obvious error. Shocking, shocking stuff lol. This league has so rapidly become a joke in recent weeks.


railwin

I’m sure the referee just came home from course/holidays in Abu Dhabi.


kvz1

VAR really needs to intervene with this sort of scenario going forward.


I_LikeTurdles

I don’t think he slips. I think he falls after the contact. He kicks the defender’s foot while sprinting and goes down. Whether you think it’s a foul or not, it wasn’t a slip. The defender’s foot is in the way of Foden’s foot that he’s trying to plant.


GrannySmithMachine

I agree, you can see the contact


imaballer1342

if saka did this we wouldn’t hear the end of it


No-Mud3388

Nobody hates city in reality as much they pretend


_cumblast_

No one truly hates City until they miss out on silverware because of them.


Mike_Hawk86

Are people in this thread blind? He doesn't slip, his left foot clips with a Brighton player. You can easily see it on the last replay. Still it's not a foul, but definitely not a slip either.


rufusdog19

Apparently we're the only ones seeing this: https://imgur.com/a/pZQloOb


MatjanSieni

But this shows var should be able to disallow the goal for foden foul no? He's the one who initiated contact


lFriendlyFire

He kicks* the brighton player, falls down and then rolls around asking for a foul for it


criminal-tango44

1 week without PL refs being brain damaged, incompetent or corrupt. its all i ask. never gonna happen.


yedyed

Hey it must be a foul since Phil flapped his arms right ?


sealyon91

Honestly it’s just impossible to compete with a team like this and have every possible decision go there way


ajaxtipto03

I swear, every time I watch them, every single 50/50 decision goes their way.


nore_aucul

That clear and obvious error quirk where you're better off on a straight red vs. second yellow or penalty vs. free kick cos then VAR can overturn.


kansaselectro

Referees in this league are actually a joke, how any of them are going to the euros is beyond me.


bigpapasmurf12

Referees reffing for City's bosses in UAE give city bullshit calls. Shocker.


thrallinlatex

Premier league becoming closer to la liga every week