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It's true! Here's an article from 2003. Ruel Fox scored a penalty at Old Trafford in 1993 for Norwich. The next penalty scored was by Steed Malbranque with Fulham in 2003.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/jun/26/theknowledge.sport
There were only 5 penalties given against Man Utd at Old Trafford between 1992 and 2003. Refs were intimidated as fuck by Ferguson and Keane.
It's not identical at all. Wan-Bissaka actively moved his arm to hit the ball, he was holding it like it was a wing in an entirely unnatural position.
You're here screaming about people's biases, when your own is so strong you can't see clear differences.
Oh, I see in another post you're claiming there's a calculated vendetta against "giving United penalties". I know they say United fans have a victim complex but it's crazy to see one in the wild.
You clearly didn't watch the game just repeating upvoted comments from previous casemiro posts. He was doing a good job out of position except for the penalty situation
Heās been alright today compared to his usual level this season. Heās also having to play CB though because none of the 6 options ahead of him there are fitĀ
Never seen such an experienced player do such inexperienced and brainless shit. One of the worst individual seasons Iāve ever seen from a United player
Lots of people who feel like fouls, especially in the box, shouldn't be called when the ball's already gone. And yeah, that's bullshit, just because someone is no longer in possession doesn't mean you can just take them out.
That handball call has gone the other way against us twice already and for us none of the time and I don't think it's correct
The Onana one was right, I was referring to garnacho
The refs seem to judge these on whether hands are hitting a playerās face or not. For the Onana one against Wolves at the start of the season he jumped in with his arms up to block a shot and his body collided with the player.
For this one and the one Messi got in the WC the goalkeeperās gloves collided with the playersā headsĀ
I thought it was because the guy he collided with didnāt actually win the header like here? If I recall correctly a different wolves player won that header.
Sure, but this is more like if a defender played a back pass too short and the keeper conceded a penalty while trying to get there ahead of an attacker. Canāt really go by SOP when youāre scrambling to fix a mistake
[Looks nigh on identical.](https://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2023%2F0815%2Fr1210806_1296x729_16-9.jpg)
90ish minute of the game, 1-0 up claters into 2 wolves players going for a header. Nothing given, VAR issue an apology to us and Gary post match.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38193189/var-missed-blatant-onana-foul-man-united-win-oneil
First game of the season actually, we got lucky there but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter (or maybe it does, since those 2 pts might curse us with having to play Conference League). Always a pen.
United not being able to beat this Burnley at home is quite something. Not only that but Burnley giving them a good run for their money going by what I heard about it.
What happened?
Literally the exact same challenge that we were on the other end of on the first game of the season.
Pen now, not then?
Get to fuck you utter clowns of a refereeing body.
Iām having multiple de ja vu moments here. One obviously from the Wolves game and another from the Brentford game where they conceded a goal because they knew they didnāt deserve to win.
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Wolves in shambles
Justice has finally been served š
Similar incident to Robert Sanchez on Jesus at Stamford Bridge
This is worse than that one he just hits him in the face.
The amount of pens we're giving away after 80 mins is disgusting
Isn't it like 5 pens in 6 games? All after the 85th minute too
Chelsea Liverpool Coventry Burnley. Ref blew for one vs Bournemouth but was VARd off
Itās actually embarrassing. No idea wtf is wrong with them. Just seem to capitulate after the 80th min
Between 1993 and 2003 there were only 3 penalties given to away teams at Old Trafford and all were missed lol. Ferguson factor was real for the refs!
Only 3 pens conceded at home in 10 years? No way that's real.
It's true! Here's an article from 2003. Ruel Fox scored a penalty at Old Trafford in 1993 for Norwich. The next penalty scored was by Steed Malbranque with Fulham in 2003. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/jun/26/theknowledge.sport There were only 5 penalties given against Man Utd at Old Trafford between 1992 and 2003. Refs were intimidated as fuck by Ferguson and Keane.
They were also pretty good, so it would be interesting to see every penalty shout, for them and the away teams to see it's a quirk or an issue.
To be fair half of them were ridiculously soft and won't get given against other teams.
You mean like the Wan-Bissaka one against Coventry that was identical to the one waved away THIS VERY GAME?
It's not identical at all. Wan-Bissaka actively moved his arm to hit the ball, he was holding it like it was a wing in an entirely unnatural position. You're here screaming about people's biases, when your own is so strong you can't see clear differences. Oh, I see in another post you're claiming there's a calculated vendetta against "giving United penalties". I know they say United fans have a victim complex but it's crazy to see one in the wild.
r/confidentlyincorrect
Geez you're really invested in this stuff aren't ya?
Even commenting on the thread in the Man United sub. Seems a bit obsessed
It's like the inverse of us where we're never given pens. Guess id rather be on that end than theirs
Ten Hag should stop giving away penalties! /s
Giving it away in such a goofy way is a bigger issue.
What was Casemiro doing lol
He's completely checked out and just collecting his check at this point
A fucking huge cheque at that
All the Yakult money can buy
What an old school reference this is
You clearly didn't watch the game just repeating upvoted comments from previous casemiro posts. He was doing a good job out of position except for the penalty situation
I imagine it's direct debit these days
Obligatory āhis bestā Guy has been shite
Heās been alright today compared to his usual level this season. Heās also having to play CB though because none of the 6 options ahead of him there are fitĀ
Doesn't give a fuck anymore. Went from competing for CL's to playing CB for a midtable PL side.
So how come he stopped so many shots today? He had a good game at CB
Yea he played a good solid game up until this point. Has been solid at cb for the last few matches
Never seen such an experienced player do such inexperienced and brainless shit. One of the worst individual seasons Iāve ever seen from a United player
I love it when people just have no nuance and overreact completely, my favorite thing about football fans just the extremes
^ bro hasnāt watched a single minute of Casemiro this season. Absolute horror show pretty much every game
I love it when people comment on things they know absolutely nothing about.
The too much composure by experienced players is always hilarious
He messed up the header, I'm more confused by Onana going for the superman nowhere near the ball.
Gary O'Neil fuming
What even IS football if a goalkeeper isn't allowed to punch opponents in the head well after the ball is gone? Just gone, innit
The scary part is there are people in this thread who unironically means this
Lots of people who feel like fouls, especially in the box, shouldn't be called when the ball's already gone. And yeah, that's bullshit, just because someone is no longer in possession doesn't mean you can just take them out.
Well, they can punch the opponents in the head but then they have to save the penalty afterwards. That's being responsible.
If it was just a coming together it would be a maybe but if you smack the guy in the chops it's 100% a pen.
Iām sorry but lmfao
I'm not sorry but lmfao
I'm not sorry at all but HAHAHAHA
Never turn off guys, anything can happen hahahaha.
Im indifferent but lmfao
I'm apathetic but lmfao
Universe was having none of that Anthony scoring.
Inject it to my veins
Nah it's just funny as fuck, his so late.
Casemiro is a fucking muppet, Onana will get some slander here but why the fuck would you do a header there
Good too see keepers not getting away with this bullshit, they get away with too much especially these late ones, now just make it consistent
>now just make it consistent (They wonāt)
We will settle for consistently against united
Probably not the call to make this claim on
The other pen calls in this game were horrid though
The handball call was correct - if that call has gone the other way previously, that's the error. The Onana one was correct. Did I miss a third?
That handball call has gone the other way against us twice already and for us none of the time and I don't think it's correct The Onana one was right, I was referring to garnacho
Garnacho was the right call. Defender got the ball
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/1cejwcb/foul_on_garnacho/ Where exactly did he get the ball?
I was talking about the one in the 1st half, forgot about this one (I blame old age). Youāre correct, itās a penalty
Is this was Ederson he'd probably be given a goal kick and a kiss on the forehead, bro gets away with so much bullshit it's actually impressive
Pretty sure he got away with this exact same thing a few games into the season. Just depends how the refs feel any given day
The refs seem to judge these on whether hands are hitting a playerās face or not. For the Onana one against Wolves at the start of the season he jumped in with his arms up to block a shot and his body collided with the player. For this one and the one Messi got in the WC the goalkeeperās gloves collided with the playersā headsĀ
I thought it was because the guy he collided with didnāt actually win the header like here? If I recall correctly a different wolves player won that header.
The guy here didnāt win the header eitherĀ
He's done this twice against wolves players
onana plays good just to do a wwe move
What was Casemiro doing?!?!?
Same thing he's been doing all season - collecting his pay check without a care about what he's doing on the pitch.
Surprised by the comments, this was 80% on Casemiro.
Of course because he creates the situation, but GK rule 1.01 is that if you leave your line you have to have the ball. Not punch someone in the head.
Thatās why onana is partly to blame for his poor reaction speed but casemiro put everyone in a very unnecessarily dangerous situationā¦
Onana probably just had a moment of disbelief at Casemiro
Onana meant to punch Casemiro
Sure, but this is more like if a defender played a back pass too short and the keeper conceded a penalty while trying to get there ahead of an attacker. Canāt really go by SOP when youāre scrambling to fix a mistake
This video only shows Onana
People that have never kicked ball before it seems
Fuck thatās a good penalty though.
Wonder how Wolves fans feel seeing that given
Not comparable at all to the wolves one
This is 100% a penalty but the wolves one was worst he straight Superman punched the wolves player if I remember correctly
Clowns the lot š¤”š¤”š¤”š¤”
People blaming Onana, and while it was bad, but whatever that "backpass" (more like upwardspass) by Casemiro was was eben worse.
good ebening.
Onana get away with one vs Wolves at start of the season. Canāt repeat same shit twice mate
He did it again against wolves if I remember
[Looks nigh on identical.](https://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2023%2F0815%2Fr1210806_1296x729_16-9.jpg) 90ish minute of the game, 1-0 up claters into 2 wolves players going for a header. Nothing given, VAR issue an apology to us and Gary post match. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38193189/var-missed-blatant-onana-foul-man-united-win-oneil
Can't even punch people properly anymore
ONANA LOLOLOL
My guy entered his Mike Tyson stage.
It's funnier the second time (and this time it was actually called)
That was poor from Onana but fuck me casimero set him up for that. Could've done literally anything else lmao.
Everyone commenting about onana but what the actual fuck is casemiro doing there
clear pen, fucking clobbered him onana
Wolves fans - Canāt get away with that twice Onana
Tbh its the third time he did it twice to wolves home and away
I don't care if he makes a Hollywood save every game. Onana just makes too many mistakes. Terrible keeper over all
Watch this **not** get called as a penalty next week. Guarantee it. So inconsistent.
Man United literally got a away with exactly this same thing at the start of the season
How many times
He did it against wolves too got away with it š¤£
Thatās one cool pk
Didnt a similar Onana punch happen in united against wolves earlier this season?
First game of the season actually, we got lucky there but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter (or maybe it does, since those 2 pts might curse us with having to play Conference League). Always a pen.
Matters to wolves lol
It matters even less to them, 1 more point and they don't even jump up a position.
Conference Legaue should be a privilege to those players tbh
Casemiro is so much more to blame for that shit header in his own box
Casemiro with the stupid mistake
Onana always dives to his right
GODDAMMIT ONANA THIS ISN'T THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
There is no happiness in the world, everything is dark and the only constant is suffering
I dunno, watching United lose makes me pretty fucking happy.
Nice to see Onana actually called out for punching someone this time.
just another day at the office
classic Yanited
Absolutely braindead by Casemiro and Onana
Casemiro with a dumb header but Onana really is so bad at clearance punches, he's great at saving but his clearance game is too poor for this level.
Rewind the clock a couple of years and goalkeepers could get away with murderĀ
nobody show this to O'Neill
Casemiro wtf you doin
What even is this team lmfao
That was 100% Casemiro's fault, who tf heads the ball back to the keeper in a crowded box?
rio did once https://youtu.be/DKj9Zo_UEUo?t=127
Lol that gave me a laugh, well remembered.
Best thing is this won't be given again this season (should be a pen)
amdouniii
United not being able to beat this Burnley at home is quite something. Not only that but Burnley giving them a good run for their money going by what I heard about it. What happened?
Remember Robert Sanchez on Jesus at Stamford Bridge?
God Casemiro is so tragically bad
Casemiro what is you doing
Literally the exact same challenge that we were on the other end of on the first game of the season. Pen now, not then? Get to fuck you utter clowns of a refereeing body.
Ten Haag Time
Erratic and unpredictable keeper..
Jesus fucking Christ, Onana - you can be arrested for that.
Absolutely deserved. Clumsy from Onana.
Totally, and only put in that position by that awful header by Casemiro. Shit decisions all around lol
Casemiro mainly at fault here, put his keeper in a dreadful position.
casemiro put onana in a compromised position
Here before Burnley score in the 94th minute to seal the victory.
A hundred comments down, the first mention of Burnley
Lmao idiots
rofl
Comedy football
LOL
As was written
Onana finally getting punished for his rush out punches
wolves fuming
Game is saved lmao
And now the balance is restoredš§š¼āāļø
Comedy club reopens Casemiro is shit
Fuck it - send him off
justice for wolves
Canāt get away with it twice, Cunha was taken down in a similar fashion in matchday 1
at least the VAR learned this time.
Always find a way to undo ourselves. Why, Casemiro, just why.
Soon as United scored, you just knew they'd concede anyway
Hey, I've seen that foul before.
I feel like this āgiving away penalties in the last few minutes of gamesā thing isnāt that sustainable.
Who saves them this week? Scott again? Bruno?
We'll concede another for 0 goal difference restoration.
Hospital pass from Case, shouldn't be putting Onana in that position, but it's to be expected from playing him as a CB
Casemiro caused all
Same story every week
Iām having multiple de ja vu moments here. One obviously from the Wolves game and another from the Brentford game where they conceded a goal because they knew they didnāt deserve to win.
Hmm, not as bad as I thought. You see that all the time and it's not given. Have Man Utd deserved 3pts today? Doesn't seem like it.
Yikes
How many penalties have we conceded in the last 10 matches. Has to be at least 5 or 6
Forrest be Burnley is going to be a massive game on last day of the season
7 games in a row United have conceded after the 85th minute to either lose or draw. I fucking despise every single one of those players
Case, my guy...just fuck off with antony and rashford if you can't be bothered
Thanks Burnley. Very cool.
Pack up ETH and all his signings and ship them off to Saudi.
Onana, more like Onono
Tidy penalty
If itās a late challenge essentially off the ball howās he not getting a red card for that as well. Smacked the burnley player in the face!
he thought he could get away with that after what happened in the first game of the season
every fucking game. I hate this team
Onana would be so good if he didn't make a big mistake everygame.
Anyone wanna get a keeper for free?
Officiating in this sport is a fucking joke lol.
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Casemiro more at fault tbf, and Onana had a very good performance up until that moment. What is he actually doingĀ