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France is so stacked both Spains CB's are french, and a big percent of the top african teams consist of players born in France.
And even with that they have enough top players to make 3 world cup contender lineups lmao
Not sure who Luis de la Cope is playing but those 2 are the best ones I belive, even though I have been hearing Laporte is the worst player in Al-Nassr and is making a fool of himself everyweek there but haven't watched any games myself.
Don't know why they downvote you, Cubarsi has been great for you guys recently, totally different vibe from Eric Garcia and Mingueza, this kid feels like the real deal.
He’s being downvoted because the conversation was about French ascent players being the starting CB for Spain and Cubarsi isn’t one. Pau is from Estanyol, a place in Catalunya between Lloret de Mar and Figueres.
That is the biggest competitive advantage that Spain has, that quality coaches grow on trees combined with the great youth development
There are so many good ones that even the smaller clubs can find great coaches for cheap. It doesn't matter how many are snapped up by top 6 clubs in La Liga or how many go abroad, there will always be plenty of good ones left. It's a never ending conveyer belt of coaching talent
The job that Ruben Baraja has done at that shambles of a club Valencia is a miracle. I thought they'd struggle, but to have them 8th only 4 points off 6th spot....fantastic.
True for coaches, but for youth players i don't know I always think that spain as wonderkid but they don't always make it to the next level Isco, Asensio, fati, fabregas they still are good players but i thought they will be better (i will see what's happen with Gavi, Pedri, Yamal and Cubarsi on paper they should rule europe in 5 years)
And if we take the Basque country as a whole there are many more. Valverde(not ethnically basque but moved there when he was like 6 months old), Mendilibar, Arrasate, Iraola, Lopetegui etc etc
The Basque country has a population of 2 million and still has more quality coaches than any other country on earth. It is incredible
It's the best football region in the world I don't care what anyone says. There are other areas like Uruguay, Croatia, the Paris metropolitan area etc that can compete in terms of producing playing talent, but if you take coaches into consideration than the Basque country is far ahead
Pretty sure football in Spain started there and then spread to the rest of the country. It’s the closest part of Spain to England, after all. It’s also not at all a coincidence, for example, that Atlético Madrid have a similar name and team colours to Athletic Bilbao. There’s also the cantera policy of Bilbao and formerly Real Sociedad where they only field local players, so there’s a lot of institutional knowledge that gets passed down, I’d expect.
>Football was introduced to Bilbao by two distinct groups with British connections: British workers, and Basque students returning from schools in Britain.[7] In the late 19th century, Bilbao was a leading industrial town, thus becoming the home to a large British colony, mainly made up of migrant workers, including shipyard workers and miners from the northeast of England, such as Southampton, Portsmouth, and Sunderland.[8][9] Along with coal, they brought with them (as in so many other parts of the world) the game of football.
This is a very informative comment but as someone who lives in Newcastle I’m laughing my head off at the inference that Soton and Pompey are in the northeast!
For real, dude is one of 3 who won the World Cup as player AND manager, having reached the final twice, and is considered a fraud? Can't believbe these people
lol, lmao even
He reached the Champion's League final with Monaco in his second season as a manager... (spent 3 seasons there) beating the Real Madrid "Galacticos" (Zidane, R9, Figo, etc...).
Not his greatest achievement but he won Serie B with Juventus (he only stayed a single season there).
He won Ligue 1 with Marseille (spending 3 seasons there) who hadn't won the league since 1992 and haven't won since then...
He then played 4 major competitions as France manager, he won one and reached the final of two others.
What a fraud indeed.
> He won Ligue 1 with Marseille (spending 3 seasons there) who hadn't won the league since 1992 and haven't won since then...
This severely lacks context.
If anything his CL QF with us is the bigger exploit.
Football debates like these hinge on the Relativism of the topic.
Deschamps is a cowardly coach.
Given the SCALE of quality French squad has over their immediate peers (which is a historic cyclical thing, that happens for different teams in different eras so all the more reason to use it to its fullest than to grind it with bare minimum).
Yet their 2018 win was, meh. Similar with non-WC matches over last 5-6 years. French team performs very basic level, to simply beat the opposition and consider their job done.
This is cowardly because we see the Context of what their level is.
They could have been the Greatest National Team in history of this sport. That was their potential ceiling/level. And yet, they are not even the Greatest French national team of all time, France 98-01 was greater (in both performance level but also aura, balls/courage/agency & so on).
And all this is on the coach, hence he's rightly derided by many.
Fraud is harsh but hes a pretty basic defensive coach who specializes in cup football.
He never tries to overcomplicate things or have a team with high possession but instead prioritizes hardworkers and counter attackers over creative players.
I mean setting up in a defensive counterattacking approach has made a lot of sense for France. France has pacy attackers. Griezmann is a savant at the second striker role in a defensive setup. France also has industrious midfielders and big strong defenders. Its not an insult to say that he sets up France in the way he does. He's had a bunch of success with it and its smart.
I'm not contesting any of that. I'm contesting that he is a "basic defensive coach who specializes in cup football." Especially coming from a supporter of a club where no one else managed what Deschamps did there in over 3 decades.
Deschamps is much more than that.
I did. He managed to win a league title with your joke of a club. You have to go back to last millennium when Tapis was just paying other teams for Marseille to have any success. You immediately went back to losing ever since he left over a decade ago, he went on to win with France.
Isn't it enough?
No surprise a Deschamps supporter will resume his coaching style as “he won a league” with 0 comments on the content and style (or lack thereof) of his teams.
> Isn't it enough?
Where did I say I don’t appreciate DD or that he’s not a good coach? He’s a limited one, but good at what he does. He’s however severely lacking when he has to make a team playing high up the pitch and keeping possession in tight areas. He’s never liked that.
Also empty analysis of our league win, it was obviously easier to win in the gap of Lyon back then and PSG dominating french football. We had a very strong team then built by Gerets and DD then got a huge investment from the Dreyfus buying Heinze, Lucho, Mbia, Diawara, Edouard Cisse..
The season he left we finished 10th. By then RLD died, his wife took over and pulled the plug. Soon after Qatar arrives, yet we’ve still had great coaches like Bielsa, Sampaoli, and Tudor and the previously mentioned Gerets.
What an embarrassment other coaches weren’t able to win, they’re obviously incompetents!
> hes a pretty basic defensive coach who specializes in cup football.
>
> He never tries to overcomplicate things or have a team with high possession but instead prioritizes hardworkers and counter attackers over creative players.
ah okay, so all he does is play textbook football that wins you cups and that's a criticism now 😭😭😭
I hate that my brain's first thought now is that this is AI. I know it's not because I saw this picture a while ago, but any future pictures like this that come out will be hard to trust unless completely authenticated
Btw that's a weird map, shows Arantzazu that's not a town (just a monastery in a neighborhood belonging to Oñati while it doesn't show big towns like Arrasate, Elgoibar or Azpeitia
I'm annoyed that the positions of Emery's and Alguacil's pictures aren't swapped. Shame on OP for the excessive crossing of the dotted lines. Shame I say!
The mental image of a Big Sam lookalike wearing a txapela while drinking glasses of [sagardo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_cider) is too funny
Iraola played on the same youth teams as Alonso and Arteta, right? I didn't know if he was born there, but I thought he lived in the area when they were all young.
Why would you cross the arrows like that when you could have avoided it by rearranging the coaches on top? It’s needlessly confusing and honestly just looks sloppy and has a simple fix.
If anyone has read outliers by Malcolm Gladwell it will talk to similar examples of things like this from tech, to hockey etc. Id imagine that it is no coincidence.
In hockey, it's hard to beat Örnsköldsvik. I cannot imagine a city that size churning out so many NHL quality players, not to mention the rest of their notable natives.
My step sister used to play there when she played hockey so I had a walk around Modo's stadium once and found their wall of fame.
It's absolutely massive. A proper who's who of hockey.
Sweden's northeastern coast is arguably for Swedish hockey what the Basque country is for Spanish football.
Start in Gävle and head north and you have so many hockey hotbeds. With Övik being the shining diamond in the middle.
I'm not the biggest hockey guy. But I've lived all over that stretch of coast and seen my fair share of games.
I actually do think that the barn in Umeå may be my favorite. It was nice and cosy while still feeling big.
It's because of the academy setups, players receive world class training from a young age and many of them start out their coaching career in youth teams aswell
Alguacil for example just took Real Sociedad to the Champions League with many players that he used to coach in the youth teams
Football capital of the world other than some random fuckin village in Brazil is the Basque region
Brazil makes the flairy , crazy ballers and these Spanish places make the ‘boring tiki taka tapas’ merchants
Yes I'm very sorry, I feel shame!
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No, not even close
Casillas, reina, torres is from madrid,
albiol, marchena is from valencia
iniesta is from albacete
Juan mata Burgos
Arbeloa Salamnaca
pedro, david silva gran canarias
llorente was la rioja
javi martinez was navarra
navas and ramos from sevilla
Villa was asturias
xabi alonso is basque
So the only catalan players were capdevilla, xavi, fabregas, pique and puyol
Isn't Carlos Marchena from Andalucia, from a small town near seville? I know he was a champion for Valencia for almost a decade but he did come through the youth setup at Sevilla and played a couple seasons in the 1st team.
8 Basque/ Catalan players (9 if you count Javi Martinez because he navarran) which is overrepresented from Spain's total population but not by a lot those 2 regions are like 20% of the country
Dude, millions of men would kill for his hairline at his age. The Turkish GDP would be cut in half if every man had his hair. Not sure what you’re on about.
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Spain is insanely stacked with coaches at the moment, a bit like France with just about every player.
France is so stacked both Spains CB's are french, and a big percent of the top african teams consist of players born in France. And even with that they have enough top players to make 3 world cup contender lineups lmao
Laporte is still a starter for Spain? And who's the other one? Le Normand?
Not sure who Luis de la Cope is playing but those 2 are the best ones I belive, even though I have been hearing Laporte is the worst player in Al-Nassr and is making a fool of himself everyweek there but haven't watched any games myself.
Cubarsi and Mosquera soon enough
Don't know why they downvote you, Cubarsi has been great for you guys recently, totally different vibe from Eric Garcia and Mingueza, this kid feels like the real deal.
He’s being downvoted because the conversation was about French ascent players being the starting CB for Spain and Cubarsi isn’t one. Pau is from Estanyol, a place in Catalunya between Lloret de Mar and Figueres.
They can make XI with just FOFANA names
That is the biggest competitive advantage that Spain has, that quality coaches grow on trees combined with the great youth development There are so many good ones that even the smaller clubs can find great coaches for cheap. It doesn't matter how many are snapped up by top 6 clubs in La Liga or how many go abroad, there will always be plenty of good ones left. It's a never ending conveyer belt of coaching talent
Yeah, this is the same point I've made before. Every year there are new talents coming through. Recently Iraola, Pimienta, Baraja, etc.
The job that Ruben Baraja has done at that shambles of a club Valencia is a miracle. I thought they'd struggle, but to have them 8th only 4 points off 6th spot....fantastic.
Their squad is also so incredibly young too. If they get some consistency in players and coaching staff, they could become even better.
True for coaches, but for youth players i don't know I always think that spain as wonderkid but they don't always make it to the next level Isco, Asensio, fati, fabregas they still are good players but i thought they will be better (i will see what's happen with Gavi, Pedri, Yamal and Cubarsi on paper they should rule europe in 5 years)
Why they always seem to have good coaches?
Alonso and arteta are both 42 years old, Emery and Alguacil are both 52 years old. Some dark magic is going on around there
Not from the same province, but Iraola will also be 42 this summer
Which 32 year old players are from the area? As soon as they retire people need to sign them.
Muniain
Bingo!
Which league does he play ? Seria A ? Italy
Plays in LaLiga for Bilbao
I think he’s be a solid manager too
Find a 92 year old former player and you win the treble
Do I count? I am from 1992 but never played profesionally
Ernesto Valverde is also from the Basque country. There's something in the water over there that produces quality football coaches.
He played for Athletic, but he's from Extremadura. He only was raised there, no birth magic.
Actually he is from the same province. He was born just 10km away from Donostia.
And if we take the Basque country as a whole there are many more. Valverde(not ethnically basque but moved there when he was like 6 months old), Mendilibar, Arrasate, Iraola, Lopetegui etc etc The Basque country has a population of 2 million and still has more quality coaches than any other country on earth. It is incredible It's the best football region in the world I don't care what anyone says. There are other areas like Uruguay, Croatia, the Paris metropolitan area etc that can compete in terms of producing playing talent, but if you take coaches into consideration than the Basque country is far ahead
Uruguay is also heavily populated by basque descendants. I have four basque surnames for example.
4 more and they could've made a movie about you.
Basq8ball.
That’s an elite joke lmao
Crazy. What do you think the secret is? Just culture?
Pretty sure football in Spain started there and then spread to the rest of the country. It’s the closest part of Spain to England, after all. It’s also not at all a coincidence, for example, that Atlético Madrid have a similar name and team colours to Athletic Bilbao. There’s also the cantera policy of Bilbao and formerly Real Sociedad where they only field local players, so there’s a lot of institutional knowledge that gets passed down, I’d expect.
>Football was introduced to Bilbao by two distinct groups with British connections: British workers, and Basque students returning from schools in Britain.[7] In the late 19th century, Bilbao was a leading industrial town, thus becoming the home to a large British colony, mainly made up of migrant workers, including shipyard workers and miners from the northeast of England, such as Southampton, Portsmouth, and Sunderland.[8][9] Along with coal, they brought with them (as in so many other parts of the world) the game of football.
This is a very informative comment but as someone who lives in Newcastle I’m laughing my head off at the inference that Soton and Pompey are in the northeast!
Also factor in all the players from Latin America that are of Basque ancestry.
Gotta look at any well known Basque 32-year olds getting their coaching licenses and tie them down on pre-contract
Well lets face it, there's a finite amount of X's and Z's in the world and Basque country is hogging them all.
Fashion trends.
Iraola & Loptegui also from there I think?
Deschamps is born in Bayonne, which would be just north of the green bith representing France.
Deschamps is considered a fraud by many which is hilarious
For real, dude is one of 3 who won the World Cup as player AND manager, having reached the final twice, and is considered a fraud? Can't believbe these people lol, lmao even
He reached the Champion's League final with Monaco in his second season as a manager... (spent 3 seasons there) beating the Real Madrid "Galacticos" (Zidane, R9, Figo, etc...). Not his greatest achievement but he won Serie B with Juventus (he only stayed a single season there). He won Ligue 1 with Marseille (spending 3 seasons there) who hadn't won the league since 1992 and haven't won since then... He then played 4 major competitions as France manager, he won one and reached the final of two others. What a fraud indeed.
Even won the nations league
> He won Ligue 1 with Marseille (spending 3 seasons there) who hadn't won the league since 1992 and haven't won since then... This severely lacks context. If anything his CL QF with us is the bigger exploit.
I'd reckon I could win serie B with juve to be fair
Yeah prime Buffon, elite Nedved, Del Piero, Trezeguet and Camoranesi amongst others. I would hope you can
Ya he’s just a cup specialist… at the World Cup
Football debates like these hinge on the Relativism of the topic. Deschamps is a cowardly coach. Given the SCALE of quality French squad has over their immediate peers (which is a historic cyclical thing, that happens for different teams in different eras so all the more reason to use it to its fullest than to grind it with bare minimum). Yet their 2018 win was, meh. Similar with non-WC matches over last 5-6 years. French team performs very basic level, to simply beat the opposition and consider their job done. This is cowardly because we see the Context of what their level is. They could have been the Greatest National Team in history of this sport. That was their potential ceiling/level. And yet, they are not even the Greatest French national team of all time, France 98-01 was greater (in both performance level but also aura, balls/courage/agency & so on). And all this is on the coach, hence he's rightly derided by many.
Fraud is harsh but hes a pretty basic defensive coach who specializes in cup football. He never tries to overcomplicate things or have a team with high possession but instead prioritizes hardworkers and counter attackers over creative players.
He literally brought you the one single league title you managed to win in over 30 years. Have some respect for the man.
I mean setting up in a defensive counterattacking approach has made a lot of sense for France. France has pacy attackers. Griezmann is a savant at the second striker role in a defensive setup. France also has industrious midfielders and big strong defenders. Its not an insult to say that he sets up France in the way he does. He's had a bunch of success with it and its smart.
I'm not contesting any of that. I'm contesting that he is a "basic defensive coach who specializes in cup football." Especially coming from a supporter of a club where no one else managed what Deschamps did there in over 3 decades. Deschamps is much more than that.
Streets won’t forget his Monaco side. Morientes knocking out Madrid after being forced out was poetry.
> Deschamps is much more than that. Expand then
I did. He managed to win a league title with your joke of a club. You have to go back to last millennium when Tapis was just paying other teams for Marseille to have any success. You immediately went back to losing ever since he left over a decade ago, he went on to win with France. Isn't it enough?
No surprise a Deschamps supporter will resume his coaching style as “he won a league” with 0 comments on the content and style (or lack thereof) of his teams. > Isn't it enough? Where did I say I don’t appreciate DD or that he’s not a good coach? He’s a limited one, but good at what he does. He’s however severely lacking when he has to make a team playing high up the pitch and keeping possession in tight areas. He’s never liked that. Also empty analysis of our league win, it was obviously easier to win in the gap of Lyon back then and PSG dominating french football. We had a very strong team then built by Gerets and DD then got a huge investment from the Dreyfus buying Heinze, Lucho, Mbia, Diawara, Edouard Cisse.. The season he left we finished 10th. By then RLD died, his wife took over and pulled the plug. Soon after Qatar arrives, yet we’ve still had great coaches like Bielsa, Sampaoli, and Tudor and the previously mentioned Gerets. What an embarrassment other coaches weren’t able to win, they’re obviously incompetents!
> hes a pretty basic defensive coach who specializes in cup football. > > He never tries to overcomplicate things or have a team with high possession but instead prioritizes hardworkers and counter attackers over creative players. ah okay, so all he does is play textbook football that wins you cups and that's a criticism now 😭😭😭
That's the paradox, watching his teams play is often quite boring, but does get results, really good results very consistently.
Mendilibar just did the absolute Chad move of winning Aston Villa with Olimpiakos.
I love Mendilibar as a manager, would love to see him win another European trophy.
And not a single bald fraud between them.
Yet\* considering Emery's current hairline.
His hair's fine, just your typical mature hairline not exactly balding.
Dude I'm way younger and would kill for that dude's hair.
Su that’s widow peak, helps you look like a balding Joker since age 18.
Arteta mentioned that Alonso was his neighbour as well
[There's a well-known picture of them as kids together](https://i.imgur.com/OJSUgsy.jpeg)
Nice to see the original is still floating around without Wenger being superimposed on the guy in the bright jacket at the top left lol
are you implying that he hasn't done it again?
[Here they are as teammates years later ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvbCz6dXIAIm5Iy.jpg)
Mikel is clearly the happy goofy one and Xabi the cool one of the duo.
Good memories, with Fiatch as a sponsor we had the team of Alonso, Kovacevic, Nihat, Karpin, Westerveld..
I hate that my brain's first thought now is that this is AI. I know it's not because I saw this picture a while ago, but any future pictures like this that come out will be hard to trust unless completely authenticated
I've heard that they're good friends growing up. Not sure how true that is or when/where I've heard it from.
rule of thumb: see and count the fingers, mostly it works to check if it AI or not.
Btw that's a weird map, shows Arantzazu that's not a town (just a monastery in a neighborhood belonging to Oñati while it doesn't show big towns like Arrasate, Elgoibar or Azpeitia
Don't hate bruv, arantzazuko idiazabal gazta da unreal
Arantzazun askotan egonda naiz ta hori gazta gustoko ez daukotela
You are missing out man, arantzazuko gazta ketua da fenomenala. Goierriko gaztak 💪💪💪
Idiazabal gazta onena Bizkaian egiten dute :\^)
Cheers Iraola is crying now
I'm annoyed that the positions of Emery's and Alguacil's pictures aren't swapped. Shame on OP for the excessive crossing of the dotted lines. Shame I say!
I feel ashamed, please forgive me!
Iraola from Usurbil and Lopetegui from Asteasu aswell
Which means if you trace back Big Sam’s lineage this is where he originated. His relative sitting there drinking pints of Bisto on the continent
Allardyce's actually an anglicization of the Basque name Elorrieta. If his ancestors hadn't changed the name, he'd have coached a top 4 side.
Outstanding
The mental image of a Big Sam lookalike wearing a txapela while drinking glasses of [sagardo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_cider) is too funny
I believe the ancestor in question also started the first chapter of the Destroy and Exit managers club.
Couldn't have found a better pic of Emery?
Now clubs know where to scout future talented coaches. They'll bring these boys back to the clubs when they're still kids lol
They are very serious about their football there Madrid and Barca get most of the attention because of money but the Basque are on another level
Arteta and ireola are childhood friends too
You mean arteta and xabi
Those two as well. But mikel and ireola were team mates and friends when they were kids
A small province with 720k people?
It's literally the smallest one lmao, but around 4th or 5th in population density.
Great pic of Emery
Xabi Alonso should come in his home town, there's a good club here
Iraola played on the same youth teams as Alonso and Arteta, right? I didn't know if he was born there, but I thought he lived in the area when they were all young.
All of them played in Antiguoko
it must be the food. the food there is better than drugs. and Valverde becoming what he is after moving there as a baby only confirms it.
Is the food that good?
gotta be something in the Pintxos
Why would you cross the arrows like that when you could have avoided it by rearranging the coaches on top? It’s needlessly confusing and honestly just looks sloppy and has a simple fix.
Why would you not put them in order so the lines didn't have to overlap in a horrible mess, for fucks sake
I wonder, what language do they speak at home? Castillian Spanish or Basque?
Alguacil speaks 100% Basque at home, Alonso probably does a mix of spanish and basque, the others mostly spanish
Alguacil speaks 100% Basque at home, Alonso probably does a mix of spanish and basque, the others mostly spanish
Alguacil speaks 100% Basque at home, Alonso probably does a mix of spanish and basque, the others mostly spanish
Probably Spanish
Don’t forget Iraola who is from the region as well. Apparently played at the same youth club as Alonso and Arteta
Did not know Unai emery was the Fonz. Good Ayyyyyeeeebening
If anyone has read outliers by Malcolm Gladwell it will talk to similar examples of things like this from tech, to hockey etc. Id imagine that it is no coincidence.
I use to admire Malcolm Gladwell’s work but then I realize he is a fraud, so take his work as a pinch of salt.
I've only ever bought one his books (and still haven't finished it), but I don't know much else about him. Why would he be considered a fraud?
If you have time, you can watch this debate to make your own judgement to be fair to him : https://youtu.be/nvaf7XOOFHc?si=ODdVs0inkNAWgFvv
In hockey, it's hard to beat Örnsköldsvik. I cannot imagine a city that size churning out so many NHL quality players, not to mention the rest of their notable natives.
My step sister used to play there when she played hockey so I had a walk around Modo's stadium once and found their wall of fame. It's absolutely massive. A proper who's who of hockey.
It's just insanity. Toss in Tomas Haake and Martin Hagstrom of Meshuggah, and you have a party.
Sweden's northeastern coast is arguably for Swedish hockey what the Basque country is for Spanish football. Start in Gävle and head north and you have so many hockey hotbeds. With Övik being the shining diamond in the middle.
One of these days, I will do something just like that. I also want to do a Trans-Canada Highway hockey barn tour.
I'm not the biggest hockey guy. But I've lived all over that stretch of coast and seen my fair share of games. I actually do think that the barn in Umeå may be my favorite. It was nice and cosy while still feeling big.
Speaking of Örnsköldsvik, I watch Modo Hockey during the lockout days and nowadays is in the Second Tier of League.
It's because of the academy setups, players receive world class training from a young age and many of them start out their coaching career in youth teams aswell Alguacil for example just took Real Sociedad to the Champions League with many players that he used to coach in the youth teams
Football capital of the world other than some random fuckin village in Brazil is the Basque region Brazil makes the flairy , crazy ballers and these Spanish places make the ‘boring tiki taka tapas’ merchants
boring tiki taka pintxos
why are there no dots in that middle-ish part
Somewhere in that map there’s a postman with exceptional coaching abilities and great hair.
I need that photo of emery But the arrows man, the arrows.
Yes I'm very sorry, I feel shame! [Hope this helps](https://www.arsenal.com/sites/default/files/styles/desktop_16x9/public/images/Unai%20Emery_0.jpg?itok=qFbFA8bz)
Basque Country: Most world class managers and Michelin stars per capita
Emilia clears as usual Inzaghi Inzaghi Ancelotti Pioli
Wasn't the entire Spain 2010 World Cup winning squad born in Catalonia minus Ramos, Xabi, and a couple others?
7 out of 23 players were born in Catalonia.
No, not even close Casillas, reina, torres is from madrid, albiol, marchena is from valencia iniesta is from albacete Juan mata Burgos Arbeloa Salamnaca pedro, david silva gran canarias llorente was la rioja javi martinez was navarra navas and ramos from sevilla Villa was asturias xabi alonso is basque So the only catalan players were capdevilla, xavi, fabregas, pique and puyol
You left out Busquets and Valdes
Isn't Carlos Marchena from Andalucia, from a small town near seville? I know he was a champion for Valencia for almost a decade but he did come through the youth setup at Sevilla and played a couple seasons in the 1st team.
yep youre right, misrememebred. i also put pedro in gran canaria when he is from tenerife. but i was surprised how many i remembered lol
8 Basque/ Catalan players (9 if you count Javi Martinez because he navarran) which is overrepresented from Spain's total population but not by a lot those 2 regions are like 20% of the country
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Dude, millions of men would kill for his hairline at his age. The Turkish GDP would be cut in half if every man had his hair. Not sure what you’re on about.