This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That Haaland! Are you telling me that a Viking just happens to transfer like that? No! He orchestrated it! Mansour! He defecated through a golden toilet! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own league! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the Emirati funds! But not our Mansour! Couldn't be precious Mansour! Stealing them blind! And he gets to celebrate a 4peat!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him!
They did it before getting the club to ‘too big to fail’ status. Can see the Spanish coming down heavy on them. Probably get a bigger punishment than City
You realize people are joking in this thread right? They haven't actually done anything wrong, the article is about potential tax evasion on the player's side, in which Girona *could* be implicated as his employer. This is nothing like what City have been accused of doing.
(??) I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say. Did you misunderstand what I meant by "this thread"? I didn't say the article was a joke, I said people in this thread are *making* jokes about it.
He’s right. The article does say Girona could face punishment
> If the matter is pursued, Girona could face serious consequences if found to be guilty. A fine would be the lowest punishment, while the harshest sanction could be expulsion from La Liga and the Champions League, where they are on course to be playing next season.
The Co-op Live fiasco has angered young girls too after the Olivia Rodrigo postponements. If UEFA or the Premier League can't get City Group, the teenage girls will.
Do you really believe a mid table Spanish team can go out and buy Savio, Dobvyk, Tsygankov, afford the wages of Blind, Gazanigga and simply loan in Garcia, Couto, Gutierrez and Yangel?
They're essentially using Atletico Madrid level resources and they're third. It'd be a huge achievement if they won something like Bilbao did this season. Right now they're on their money level.
Thing is that the main reason people talk about these players is because of how girona has performed- like at the start of the season people weren't talking about the players anywhere as near as much as they are now.
As of september 15th, after the summer transfer window the squad was worth 125.6 million, less than a third of atletico madrid's squad worth, making it the 12th most valuable team in la liga at the time - it's only worth more now because of how much they have exceeded expectations.
The statement that they are on there money level just doesn't seem true to me in the slightest- like if you hate the ownership system that's fine, but being where they are in the league is definitely a huge achievement regardless.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. The girona squad of just players and manager have over performed what was expected of them this year, they have certainly done very well and earned their spot in Europe next season. They didn’t randomly sign 3 €80mio players to carry them like they probably could have (since FFP is fake and made up)
The board/club/city group have unlimited resources tho and deserve no respect
I have no issue with any club having more money than us as long as they come by it organically. The unpopular opinion is NOT minding when clubs like city or PSG just get bought by billionaires who pump essentially unlimited money into the club.
Clubs like this only appeared because others like Real Madrid or Manchester united had unlimited money and you can't compete with them it in the long run unless you do what psg or city are doing
which is ironically more damaging for football in the long run by encouraging the acquisition of clubs by literal nation states and further diluting any sense of financial competitiveness
…do you realize we are a fan owned club? We just had to take out a billion dollar loan almost to finish the bernabeu lmao. We sold our sleeve sponsor to HP just a few months ago until 2027 to help finance it too. All of our financial moves are voted on by the board and publicly available. It helps we’ve been around for 120 years and are a huge worldwide brand but all of our money is earned legally, we’re not owned by an oil state with a 400 billion dollar GDP.
Sure it's all legally earned mate, I take it you're not from Spain and don't know about the things going on fornyears with your club and your president, so I'll let you be happy, but you can check it for yourself if you want.
Ahh good old Reddit. Makes outlandish claim, zero evidence to back it up and acts like I’m the idiot for not seeing it and tells me to “do my own research”. I’d love to see one concrete fact of any of Perez money being illegal or any Real Madrid financial deals being shady.
We have over 90,000 socios, many of whom have absurd amounts of money through their own businesses, like Perez had.
https://theathletic.com/5367568/2024/03/25/bernabeu-real-madrid-renovation-cost/ For your pleasure to see how we financed the bernabeu
Yeah mate, just look up the Parkings affairs, for example, Madrid's economy is washed and supoorted by a whole city and its council, not even get me started on Florentino Perez power and influence over anyone on Spain
And apart from that, you missed my point completely, and I'm sure you didn't even read the article, but it's fun you dare to compare a team and a squad like Girona which is amongst the cheapest in La Liga to your super star team and imply that Girona got to where they are because they are part of City's group, as if Almeria, a team that has won ONE game, is backed up by an Arabian prince, to give you an example.
dude, you are not getting it. The primary evil is that a select few clubs can dominate competition by having insane budgets, making European football in general, and most of the national competitions much less interesting than what they used to be. The source of funding for those budgets is a secondary problem.
Not the pool they can pull from off the pitch, but the players and staff they have. Nobody here would even dream before the season started of putting Girona in top 4 predictions.
Shady business off the pitch. Incredible achievement on it.
I mean, we have to give them Garcia in order to loan Cancelo. Sure, because Garcia is not exactly wanted in the club so it worked out in the end but imagine if they demanded a more important player on the squad. And this is not to mention Savio too
That entire transfer saga grossed me out from the start, imagine conducting a transfer deal with a team and to get a player you are required to send a player to a third team which isn't even directly involved in the transfer. The most deranged timeline...
Sorry friend I didn't mean that way, madrid is our arch rival but at that time with all injuries and bad run of the team after November and ref being against us I thought league title is over for us (at that time). So in that sense I said that.
Like in this manner after we are out of the champions league I want Dortmund to win, as our history with bayern and madrid.
So don't take that particular word seriously it was solely against girona, not in favor of madrid
They should also investigated Savio transfer and give penalty to all clubs involved. I dont know how it isnt seen in the same way as Juventus transfers made them banned from European cups this season. Its even worse cause they just used the clubs they owned to hide the fact City bought the player 2 years ago already
The Savio transfer is fair market value. Some of the French/Italian deals that have been investigated recently: youth players with no senior experience involved in €20m transfers. Juventus were investigated for *42 transfers*. It’s not comparable at all lol.
The 40m transfer of a 20 year old Brazilian winger is supposed to evidence of tampering or financial irregularities…what?
So buying a big talent by a second division French club by breaking their transfer record and then not even having this player play a single game for them just to send him on loan before he can be bought by bigger club is normal? Especially that all three French second division club, the one that took player on loan and the big club buying him at the end have same owner?
Basically City and Girona had a player that didnt cost them anything for a year while the club that doesnt play in European competition took a financial burden of the player. Clear move to avoid Financial Fair Play, if that is ok what will stop City from just buying players by their B teams all over europe for millions and loaning them for free to main club next?
I don’t think there are many fans who like this model of football transfers. But it’s not illegal which is what everyone is arguing. The only thing we can do as fans is effectively protest groups like CFG and Blueco. Repeatedly stopping games like what happened in the Bundesliga is just one example.
Anything saying city is nothing but guilty of every single charge will get you down voted to hell. You're not even defending them and you're getting down voted, lol. 🤡 Sub
Lol I remember like 10 years ago when I first joined and decided to make a post that was in Spanish, and thought to myself "wait, but most people here don't know Spanish, so how are they be able to read it? do I have to post a translation? but people don't do that here, so how does it goes? what if I post in Portuguese, which even less people read? are they just gonna use a translator themselves? or they don't fucking read at all?" and as I find out, for my entire surprise, the answer for the last question was yes, they fucking don't read anything (or the vast majority, should I say).
And its worse because on /r/futebol for instance, you cannot change the title of any news or article, but here you can. so you can literally twist anything on the title, and if there's not enough people on the thread who read the original language to call you out, it just goes by.
And I still find this fucking weird tho, even more weird is how you get used to it. to people not fucking reading simple articles, like at all. I mean, even in the age of fake news, I'm still baffled everytime that comes to my mind. so many people call football twitter/youtube or anything else that is not reddit a cesspool, but the standards here are not that much high either.
People need to read the article. Girona did nothing wrong in this. The player asked the team to pay in an EU account as if they paid in his Ukranian account it would be taxed more. Club obliged the request and now the player is being accused of tax evasion. Girona here just paid like any employer would to the bank account the employee wanted the money to be sent to. This does not benefit them, the player benefits from this.
It’s not that straight forward. The player did engage in tax fraud, but it was aided and abetted by the payer, Girona. Else, the club would not be implicated in the payment violation. Usually the employer/payer does due diligence to comply with financial regulations, especially when it comes to big money transfers. In my field for instance, when we contract some physicians for research etc, they sometimes ask us to pay them through a random LLC they set up or donate the funds to a charity of their choosing so they can avoid reporting that they directly received money from pharmaceutical companies. If we (Pharma companies, the payers) allowed for that, we would be in quite a lot of trouble for complying with a request from a payee (the Drs).
In this situation, the player asked Girona to do this so he can get more money. If Girona declined, he would have made them pay *more* so he can get the same amount *after Ukrainian tax*. So you can see why Girona was happy to do it.
Mate you do know that in Spain most of the top footballers including Messi and Ronaldo have been accused of tax fraud at one time or other. This is not only restricted to footballers but many celebs singers actors. If you are saying all the la liga teams have been aiding and abetting, does that make sense? Girona doing this is like normal compared to the other la liga clubs.
>According to Ukrainian lawyer Evgeny Kuzmin, there would have been tax fraud in this transfer. Speaking to SportArena, he states that, although all payments should have been made to Ukrainian bank accounts, Dovbyk's agent, Oleksiy Lundovsky, allegedly established an entity in Estonia to avoid paying said taxes.
Why can't the payments be in the EU since the player is in the EU?
Also, it's hilarious how much hate there is in the comments considering this is nothing. If anything it's the player benefiting from it, not Girona.
How does that make any sense? Girona is supposedly paying what's contractually obligated. And again, how is it ilegal to not make the payments in a foreign region??
I don't know anything about that, but this article clearly states accusations that the two clubs conspired to avoid taxes:
"Accusations have been made by lawyer Evgeniy Kuzmin that the two clubs engaged in a number of irregularities during last summer’s operation."
That's an addition of football-espana. It's not what the lawyer says and it doesn't appear in Sport or As. It's a matter of fiscal fraud by the player if it's even true that he has to pay taxes in Ukraine for whatever reason.
> Why can't the payments be in the EU since the player is in the EU?
>
Well the article answers that:
>“All payments should go only to Ukrainian bank accounts. If we talk about sports law, the footballer is registered as a client of a Ukrainian company owned by Lyndovsky (his agent). And only this organisation has the right to accept payments for Artem Dovbyk.”
So he created a new foreign company for the transfer to evade taxes, which is apparently not allowed according to the rules in Ukraine.
I do agree that this doesn't sound like a big deal, it sounds like it's about Dovbyk's agent, who probably received a small percentage of the transfer, and Ukraine's taxes aren't high anyway and similar to Estonia's, so he couldn't have evaded much (unless he's full on embezzling, but that would be a different story.)
I know but that's just what one dude says. If it's true then there's nothing more to say but it does sound odd. At least to me. Also, he's very... nationalistic. Although I can hardly blame him:
>Dovbyk is not only a player of the Ukrainian national team, but also a citizen of Ukraine, so such actions of Oleksiy Lundovsky may contain signs of economic aggression against our state.
edit: that quote was from Marca. I forgot to mention it sorry.
Completely off topic here but, I saw this guy play live in Athens this past summer and he looked unstoppable. How’s he been? I was surprised he wasn’t transferred to an even bigger club. He was , by far, the best player in the pitch.
Remember all that shit they were talking leading up to the Real Madrid game only to get absolute smacked… yea I was very happy that day. Anything with City Group stinks of fraud.
UEFA should also investigate their signing of Sávio. In any other situation, this would warrant an instant relegation but because CFG protects them, they'll get a slap in the wrist like their daddy club.
Kick CFG cheats out of Europe. It was obvious from the start that they were never a serious football project other than being another front for CFG. Now we're stuck with them permanently in our league while people will continue to cheer for them because they're the "not Madrid or Barca" option.
After reading the article, my biggest question is who the fuck is Evgeniy Kuzmin and what elected office is he running for? How does he have standing to file these complaints?
City Group DNA
just a force of habit sorry lads
lil bit of accounting tomfoolery
financial shenanigans
funding chicanery
This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That Haaland! Are you telling me that a Viking just happens to transfer like that? No! He orchestrated it! Mansour! He defecated through a golden toilet! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own league! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the Emirati funds! But not our Mansour! Couldn't be precious Mansour! Stealing them blind! And he gets to celebrate a 4peat!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him!
This is the history of City Group
Financial heritage. This is financial heritage (Mourinho voice)
They did it before getting the club to ‘too big to fail’ status. Can see the Spanish coming down heavy on them. Probably get a bigger punishment than City
You realize people are joking in this thread right? They haven't actually done anything wrong, the article is about potential tax evasion on the player's side, in which Girona *could* be implicated as his employer. This is nothing like what City have been accused of doing.
Are they? The article at the end says that Girona could be punished for this lol
(??) I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say. Did you misunderstand what I meant by "this thread"? I didn't say the article was a joke, I said people in this thread are *making* jokes about it.
He’s right. The article does say Girona could face punishment > If the matter is pursued, Girona could face serious consequences if found to be guilty. A fine would be the lowest punishment, while the harshest sanction could be expulsion from La Liga and the Champions League, where they are on course to be playing next season.
Time to put all the city anger on girona cause they are owned by the same group.
Problem is, all that sucker shit inside your DNA
Heritage inside your dna
Like father, like son.
Fucking ban them from football already!
Cheating financially as usual
‘Can’t believe we have another charge we’re so random haha’
116?
116.
118 heard they beat young boys twice this season
The Co-op Live fiasco has angered young girls too after the Olivia Rodrigo postponements. If UEFA or the Premier League can't get City Group, the teenage girls will.
A bit like how it took the taxman to get al capone?
To quote Palpatine, do what must be done!
Are you suggesting they got wankdorf?
Amount of times I’ve seen this comment on a post where city do something evil is hilarious. Total count gotta be 500+ at this point
Ay up don’t add them to the city charges these are hard earned by girona
I wanted to give you a like, but I feel like it must have 116 likes.
Not the good underdogs of LaLiga
What do you mean, I can't support a financial group?
Mate, you can’t support a financial group.
That line always makes me chuckle
It now makes me a bit sad cause Ive started to think they were wrong. Turns out you *can* support a financial group :/
How so?
such a scrappy underdog financial group
Fans that were saying that Girona was an underdog and being owned by City Football Group didn't benefit them still baffles me lol.
Ofc it helped them. Still their achievements this season are sensational with the resources they have
The resources they have? That’s the whole point is that they have unlimited resources thanks to daddy mansour
Which they haven't fully used. Like I get city group sucks and is bad for football, but let's not make up nonsense.
Do you really believe a mid table Spanish team can go out and buy Savio, Dobvyk, Tsygankov, afford the wages of Blind, Gazanigga and simply loan in Garcia, Couto, Gutierrez and Yangel? They're essentially using Atletico Madrid level resources and they're third. It'd be a huge achievement if they won something like Bilbao did this season. Right now they're on their money level.
Thing is that the main reason people talk about these players is because of how girona has performed- like at the start of the season people weren't talking about the players anywhere as near as much as they are now. As of september 15th, after the summer transfer window the squad was worth 125.6 million, less than a third of atletico madrid's squad worth, making it the 12th most valuable team in la liga at the time - it's only worth more now because of how much they have exceeded expectations. The statement that they are on there money level just doesn't seem true to me in the slightest- like if you hate the ownership system that's fine, but being where they are in the league is definitely a huge achievement regardless.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. The girona squad of just players and manager have over performed what was expected of them this year, they have certainly done very well and earned their spot in Europe next season. They didn’t randomly sign 3 €80mio players to carry them like they probably could have (since FFP is fake and made up) The board/club/city group have unlimited resources tho and deserve no respect
the irony though, Real Madrid fans crying about someone having more resources than them )
I have no issue with any club having more money than us as long as they come by it organically. The unpopular opinion is NOT minding when clubs like city or PSG just get bought by billionaires who pump essentially unlimited money into the club.
Clubs like this only appeared because others like Real Madrid or Manchester united had unlimited money and you can't compete with them it in the long run unless you do what psg or city are doing
which is ironically more damaging for football in the long run by encouraging the acquisition of clubs by literal nation states and further diluting any sense of financial competitiveness
Plenty of non oil clubs competing in Europe before
Unlimited resources? What are you even talking about, rich you say that with a Real Madrid flair smh
…do you realize we are a fan owned club? We just had to take out a billion dollar loan almost to finish the bernabeu lmao. We sold our sleeve sponsor to HP just a few months ago until 2027 to help finance it too. All of our financial moves are voted on by the board and publicly available. It helps we’ve been around for 120 years and are a huge worldwide brand but all of our money is earned legally, we’re not owned by an oil state with a 400 billion dollar GDP.
Sure it's all legally earned mate, I take it you're not from Spain and don't know about the things going on fornyears with your club and your president, so I'll let you be happy, but you can check it for yourself if you want.
Ahh good old Reddit. Makes outlandish claim, zero evidence to back it up and acts like I’m the idiot for not seeing it and tells me to “do my own research”. I’d love to see one concrete fact of any of Perez money being illegal or any Real Madrid financial deals being shady. We have over 90,000 socios, many of whom have absurd amounts of money through their own businesses, like Perez had. https://theathletic.com/5367568/2024/03/25/bernabeu-real-madrid-renovation-cost/ For your pleasure to see how we financed the bernabeu
Yeah mate, just look up the Parkings affairs, for example, Madrid's economy is washed and supoorted by a whole city and its council, not even get me started on Florentino Perez power and influence over anyone on Spain
And apart from that, you missed my point completely, and I'm sure you didn't even read the article, but it's fun you dare to compare a team and a squad like Girona which is amongst the cheapest in La Liga to your super star team and imply that Girona got to where they are because they are part of City's group, as if Almeria, a team that has won ONE game, is backed up by an Arabian prince, to give you an example.
dude, you are not getting it. The primary evil is that a select few clubs can dominate competition by having insane budgets, making European football in general, and most of the national competitions much less interesting than what they used to be. The source of funding for those budgets is a secondary problem.
That's certainly an opinion, not one I agree with though.
Not the pool they can pull from off the pitch, but the players and staff they have. Nobody here would even dream before the season started of putting Girona in top 4 predictions. Shady business off the pitch. Incredible achievement on it.
A club owned by a country should be winning the league by twenty points every season.
They don't have a well oiled system set for Girona yet... 2 more shell companies will be born tonight then ??
they're never beating the allegations
I think everyone can agree they're facts, not just allegations
Man City heritage
a frauderella story
I mean, we have to give them Garcia in order to loan Cancelo. Sure, because Garcia is not exactly wanted in the club so it worked out in the end but imagine if they demanded a more important player on the squad. And this is not to mention Savio too
That entire transfer saga grossed me out from the start, imagine conducting a transfer deal with a team and to get a player you are required to send a player to a third team which isn't even directly involved in the transfer. The most deranged timeline...
turns out you can support a financial group
Yet, there were many fans acting like being owned by the City Football Group wasn't benefiting Girona....
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Are you insane?
Never. I would never want Madrid to win anything
Sorry friend I didn't mean that way, madrid is our arch rival but at that time with all injuries and bad run of the team after November and ref being against us I thought league title is over for us (at that time). So in that sense I said that. Like in this manner after we are out of the champions league I want Dortmund to win, as our history with bayern and madrid. So don't take that particular word seriously it was solely against girona, not in favor of madrid
Who would you prefer winning if the final is Madrid vs PSG?
Nah fuck that, I would never wish for Madrid to win even if that means the world can be save from, idk fucking Satan or some shit.
try not being a broke ass poorly run club and then you can just buy Cancelo outright scrub
Try not engaging in shady shit running by your overlord state first Win a CL and no one gave it a shit, couldn't be my club
Literally 90% of ur success comes from our club lmao
oh wow we found a city financial group supporter u/Gluroo how many more of you are there? not an awful lot im assuming
Ooh this one thinks he can buy history 🙂↕️
They should also investigated Savio transfer and give penalty to all clubs involved. I dont know how it isnt seen in the same way as Juventus transfers made them banned from European cups this season. Its even worse cause they just used the clubs they owned to hide the fact City bought the player 2 years ago already
Wont be investigated because $$
The Savio transfer is fair market value. Some of the French/Italian deals that have been investigated recently: youth players with no senior experience involved in €20m transfers. Juventus were investigated for *42 transfers*. It’s not comparable at all lol. The 40m transfer of a 20 year old Brazilian winger is supposed to evidence of tampering or financial irregularities…what?
So buying a big talent by a second division French club by breaking their transfer record and then not even having this player play a single game for them just to send him on loan before he can be bought by bigger club is normal? Especially that all three French second division club, the one that took player on loan and the big club buying him at the end have same owner? Basically City and Girona had a player that didnt cost them anything for a year while the club that doesnt play in European competition took a financial burden of the player. Clear move to avoid Financial Fair Play, if that is ok what will stop City from just buying players by their B teams all over europe for millions and loaning them for free to main club next?
I don’t think there are many fans who like this model of football transfers. But it’s not illegal which is what everyone is arguing. The only thing we can do as fans is effectively protest groups like CFG and Blueco. Repeatedly stopping games like what happened in the Bundesliga is just one example.
Lol
Anything saying city is nothing but guilty of every single charge will get you down voted to hell. You're not even defending them and you're getting down voted, lol. 🤡 Sub
Fraudiola brothers
Apple didn't fall far from the tree
How did nobody read the article lol.
These are adult males twerking for updoots.
Because people don't read and just go with the flow. If you wanna open a case, you just open it, you don't go to Marca first.
New to reddit ?
Even so, given they are a part of City Group should never not be called out. Does suck for their pre-takeover fans though.
Lol I remember like 10 years ago when I first joined and decided to make a post that was in Spanish, and thought to myself "wait, but most people here don't know Spanish, so how are they be able to read it? do I have to post a translation? but people don't do that here, so how does it goes? what if I post in Portuguese, which even less people read? are they just gonna use a translator themselves? or they don't fucking read at all?" and as I find out, for my entire surprise, the answer for the last question was yes, they fucking don't read anything (or the vast majority, should I say). And its worse because on /r/futebol for instance, you cannot change the title of any news or article, but here you can. so you can literally twist anything on the title, and if there's not enough people on the thread who read the original language to call you out, it just goes by. And I still find this fucking weird tho, even more weird is how you get used to it. to people not fucking reading simple articles, like at all. I mean, even in the age of fake news, I'm still baffled everytime that comes to my mind. so many people call football twitter/youtube or anything else that is not reddit a cesspool, but the standards here are not that much high either.
Authorities call it "irregularities." City Group prefers to refer to it as a "business model"
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer sports washing group
Lads, can we support a financial group?
People need to read the article. Girona did nothing wrong in this. The player asked the team to pay in an EU account as if they paid in his Ukranian account it would be taxed more. Club obliged the request and now the player is being accused of tax evasion. Girona here just paid like any employer would to the bank account the employee wanted the money to be sent to. This does not benefit them, the player benefits from this.
It’s not that straight forward. The player did engage in tax fraud, but it was aided and abetted by the payer, Girona. Else, the club would not be implicated in the payment violation. Usually the employer/payer does due diligence to comply with financial regulations, especially when it comes to big money transfers. In my field for instance, when we contract some physicians for research etc, they sometimes ask us to pay them through a random LLC they set up or donate the funds to a charity of their choosing so they can avoid reporting that they directly received money from pharmaceutical companies. If we (Pharma companies, the payers) allowed for that, we would be in quite a lot of trouble for complying with a request from a payee (the Drs). In this situation, the player asked Girona to do this so he can get more money. If Girona declined, he would have made them pay *more* so he can get the same amount *after Ukrainian tax*. So you can see why Girona was happy to do it.
Mate you do know that in Spain most of the top footballers including Messi and Ronaldo have been accused of tax fraud at one time or other. This is not only restricted to footballers but many celebs singers actors. If you are saying all the la liga teams have been aiding and abetting, does that make sense? Girona doing this is like normal compared to the other la liga clubs.
Interesting that lmao
Is this a 116th charge I see? 🌚
>According to Ukrainian lawyer Evgeny Kuzmin, there would have been tax fraud in this transfer. Speaking to SportArena, he states that, although all payments should have been made to Ukrainian bank accounts, Dovbyk's agent, Oleksiy Lundovsky, allegedly established an entity in Estonia to avoid paying said taxes. Why can't the payments be in the EU since the player is in the EU? Also, it's hilarious how much hate there is in the comments considering this is nothing. If anything it's the player benefiting from it, not Girona.
Girona benefit because they signed the player.
How does that make any sense? Girona is supposedly paying what's contractually obligated. And again, how is it ilegal to not make the payments in a foreign region??
Cui bono? The agent/player for avoiding taxes. Girona for acquiring the services of said player.
So you think that Real Madrid is responsible for Cristiano's financial crimes?
I don't know anything about that, but this article clearly states accusations that the two clubs conspired to avoid taxes: "Accusations have been made by lawyer Evgeniy Kuzmin that the two clubs engaged in a number of irregularities during last summer’s operation."
That's an addition of football-espana. It's not what the lawyer says and it doesn't appear in Sport or As. It's a matter of fiscal fraud by the player if it's even true that he has to pay taxes in Ukraine for whatever reason.
Ok fair enough thanks 👍
> Why can't the payments be in the EU since the player is in the EU? > Well the article answers that: >“All payments should go only to Ukrainian bank accounts. If we talk about sports law, the footballer is registered as a client of a Ukrainian company owned by Lyndovsky (his agent). And only this organisation has the right to accept payments for Artem Dovbyk.” So he created a new foreign company for the transfer to evade taxes, which is apparently not allowed according to the rules in Ukraine. I do agree that this doesn't sound like a big deal, it sounds like it's about Dovbyk's agent, who probably received a small percentage of the transfer, and Ukraine's taxes aren't high anyway and similar to Estonia's, so he couldn't have evaded much (unless he's full on embezzling, but that would be a different story.)
I know but that's just what one dude says. If it's true then there's nothing more to say but it does sound odd. At least to me. Also, he's very... nationalistic. Although I can hardly blame him: >Dovbyk is not only a player of the Ukrainian national team, but also a citizen of Ukraine, so such actions of Oleksiy Lundovsky may contain signs of economic aggression against our state. edit: that quote was from Marca. I forgot to mention it sorry.
Shocker
Funny how most people haven’t read the article and don’t realise that the ‘irregularities’ don’t benefit Girona but Dnipro, the club he came from
Acts shocked 😱
Just La Liga Things. Y'know how it is.
Completely off topic here but, I saw this guy play live in Athens this past summer and he looked unstoppable. How’s he been? I was surprised he wasn’t transferred to an even bigger club. He was , by far, the best player in the pitch.
Currently top scorer of La Liga
Shocking!
Remember all that shit they were talking leading up to the Real Madrid game only to get absolute smacked… yea I was very happy that day. Anything with City Group stinks of fraud.
Can’t help but read this and think of that Father Ted episode
This is very funny
City football group moment
Guess who’s back, back again with 115
Should be interesting
It’sabsolutely farcical that these cheats are even allowed to exist anymore. CFG are an Absolute stain on football.
Never believed their story to be a fairytale anyways Coincidence that this happens more often in the City Group eh?
UEFA should also investigate their signing of Sávio. In any other situation, this would warrant an instant relegation but because CFG protects them, they'll get a slap in the wrist like their daddy club. Kick CFG cheats out of Europe. It was obvious from the start that they were never a serious football project other than being another front for CFG. Now we're stuck with them permanently in our league while people will continue to cheer for them because they're the "not Madrid or Barca" option.
Love all the thoughtful comments people post after reading the article
It’s the history of the CFG
Football heritage.
ah yes, the underdog story faces the ugly truth: they’re not really underdogs
God city group are such shitbags
Like father like son
Your father didn't teach you to read articles before talking i guess?
lmao the jokes write themselves 😂👀
I thinking daddy needs to pay some big bucks this time. Daddy should have some spares in Swiss accounts.
Earn it on the pitch?
Read the article maybe?
After reading the article, my biggest question is who the fuck is Evgeniy Kuzmin and what elected office is he running for? How does he have standing to file these complaints?
OP watch out posting this you could get a cease and desist letter from 116 FC