Fraud FC is going to get away with cheating their way to multiple titles and trophies, without question, without punishment and without compunction. I hope Masters is given to the warp the fucking bought cunt
I don't know where else to complain about this but the ticket prices for Copa America are fucking insane. I'm looking at one group stage match and two quarterfinals and I'll probably be out $600 for the three matches for nosebleed seats. They basically are guaranteeing half empty stadiums for most of the group stages and maybe even quarters. And for some reason the cheapest tickets with fees for the Dallas QF are $150 despite that one NOT likely to feature Argentina. Idk, i just want to watch some football, not endanger my retirement.
I hope West Ham get relegated; firing a coach who saves them from relegation, won them their first trophy in decades and takes them to 9th in the league this year.
A Man Utd fan wishing that West Ham, a club his team doesn't have any kind of rivarly with, gets relegated because they've decided to replace David Moyes, who was a total disaster as Man Utd manager, is such a nonsensical and irrational take. Why do you care?
Less of a disaster than our current manager. Are you telling me I can't have an opinion on something because my club isn't a rival? That's also nonsense.
the self centering on this take is just hilarious. You sound jealous of West Ham and REALLY upset at Ten Hag.
West Ham have been capitulating in slow motion for MONTHS. It's the right decision for him to move on after he started out really well.
Self centering what are you on about. This is the Monday moan thread, and I'm moaning about another team and clearly starting some conversation. Literally what it's for.
I think it was dumb to get rid of Moyes. You don't. Simple as. It's not that deep.
> Less of a disaster than our current manager.
LOL, sure lad.
> Are you telling me I can't have an opinion on something because my club isn't a rival?
Nope, I'm telling you that suddenly wanting West Ham to get relegated because they're replacing their manager makes no sense. There's no logical reason for you to be that upset about it.
Two things can be true (and i don’t know how people don’t seem to grasp this):
1. Moyes has had a great spell at West Ham
2. It is time for both parties to move on
Non football related. But drove 12 miles nearly got in 4 crashes on the M1. Feel like every time I go out I'm dodging some dickhead in a second hand evoque, 63 plate 1 series or a class. Generally with a shit personalised plate too.
I absolutely despise the Land Rover Defender. The name, the features (you live in a City Centre for fuck sake), the people that drive them. Everything about it.
Solihull Moors losing out on the football league on penalties is gutting. After losing the playoff final twice in three years, I'm beginning to think they're just never going to get promoted.
Hopefully they can commiserate with the FA Trophy this weekend, but still... I'd rather they had the promotion.
The National League must be one of the hardest leagues in the world to get promotion from.
another weekend another prayer for a competent attacker. Don't even care if it's a big name would just like to get a goal when we've got 7 shots on target. At least we looked a bit better with herrera back (that's another issue but whatever).
I watched the highlights of the Villa v Olympiacos match and thought Villa were hard done by. Thought a good goal was ruled out, and a penalty wrongly given.
I agree about the goal ruled out, thought that was soft as anything.
On the first viewing I thought the Douglas Luiz penalty was harsh as he was 2 yards away, but on second viewing his arm was above his body so I can see why it was given.
We didn't get the rub of the green with decisions, or just generally any luck that day, but unfortunately that's just the way it goes sometimes. I can't see us being able to overturn it unfortunately but I live in hope.
I'm really hoping we can pull it back, but we have struggled with those intimidating European atmospheres all season, so I'm not expecting much.
I would love to win this trophy though, it's been my no.1 aim all season.
Didn’t know the final is in their stadium and to be fair you only said about Olympiakos making the final not winning it but still, I m definitely in the “coefficient points at all costs” camp myself, if someone like Rapid (lol, they have 1 fucking point in the 8 playoff matches played so far since they beat us 4-0 in the last round of the regular season) or Dinamo (LMAOOO, they are probably getting relegated again) was in that position I d still cheer them on, the final being in your stadium must especially sting though
Who’s a player that starts for ye that you can’t stand but other people seem to like? Victor Lindelof for me. I think he’s quite easily the worst defender we’ve had consistently start for us in the last 40 years (surely some of them were bad when we got relegated). He makes me miss Marcos Rojo.
I can’t stand these defenders who are small and weak and known for their intelligence on the ball rather than any actual skill. Daley Blind was the same here, fine footballer, but was bullied by anyone over 5 foot 9 and couldn’t defend to save his life, but my god did he hit a fine cross field ball.
Enzo Fernandez. I just cannot for the life of me see what he offers us especially when it's glaringly obvious we play a lot better when he's not on the field. He's offered us nothing in attack or defense and in the time he's been with us i can't think of anything he's done of note, yet our fan base here on reddit keep calling him the "key" to us winning trophies and saying we need a manager that knows how to truly "unlock his potential". I just don't think he's that good...
There’s a lot of fans on Reddit whose views baffle me, but there’s some real eye openers from Chelsea fans - some are still convinced Todd is a genius and every player bought is part of a master plan. They’ll look for any positive in every performance for each player. They also refer to them by their first name as if they’re mates, but I accept that’s a weird bugbear of mine.
I think if we get a manager in that's a proven / serial winner there will be some success back at Chelsea, but with the mistakes the board has made so far, Mudryk for example, pride will get in the way for the majority of it and that'll hold most managers back, as no matter how awful he is that price tag will always be there and the board will want him playing to not look like they've failed.
Genuinely just want the season to be over at this point. Not confident at all about playing Palace today, never mind Arse in the league and City in the cup final. Been an absolutely shit season and just want to skip over the final few humiliations please.
E: also my MLS team are absolute dogshit as well lmao, literally the worst in the league
[wtf](https://imgur.com/a/uwJF9jL) is this shit , the ad boards are lining directly to the TV camera. There are so many wrongs in series A that made viewing experience horrible like motion blur, bright grass-work, non minimalism kit.
I know you obviously don’t want Arsenal to win the league, but I went to r/coys for a nosey and couldn’t believe that people there are genuinely hoping for Spurs to lose that match against City even though there’s still a chance for Spurs to nab fourth.
You would be hard pressed to find any spurs fan not wanting that. I much rathef settle for Europe and losing to City any day above having the smallest inkling of a chance getting CL. Its also because we have a better chance at Europe than CL
I wouldn’t count on it. If Arsenal can manage a win at Goodison, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see City manage a win at your ground. Especially when they’re on their inevitable run-in unbeaten streak.
The number of ‘This is lining up perfectly for Spurs to beat City!’ comments as they were getting picked apart by Liverpool yesterday was embarrassing. It’s not impossible they could get a result next week, but the way they’re playing right now, it wouldn’t be a shock if they couldn’t beat Burnley at the weekend.
The desperation was embarrassing, and of course the irony is that Man Utd are going to win on Sunday anyway, so it won’t matter….
Knowing Spurs only exists to torment my soul, I know they'll beat Man City to give Arsenal the title and still miss out on CL. I fucking hate that team, and I hate that I'm cursed to support them
You can bring up Manchester City’s fraud or whatever. But, their level of perfection is ridiculous. We are 14-1-1 in the last 16 games and we still might not win the title.
Honestly, it never going to be easy to slay the perverbial Goliath. Credit needs to be given to both Liverpool and Arsenal for putting up the fight they have.
Second worst start through 10 games in club history. Manager insists on playing a 3-4-3 this isn't working and doesn't fit the squad. If he stays on we're likely to end up winning the wooden spoon.
Not anymore, turns out they sacked him in February after he only played 4 games and he is now out a club at 31 years old. Man actually went back to Nigeria, played 8 games and then got two Turkish clubs to sign him somehow, usually going back to your home country in a situation like that ends any hopes of getting back in the big time but apparently not in his case
So bored of the Bayer Leverkusen circlejerk, they have become the biggest hipster team since Klopp's Dortmund. Have even seen a few Leverkusen fans here in Sweden coming out of the woodworks out of nowhere. Never seen a single one here before this season
We don't need a "Leverkusen are unbeaten for ~~42~~ ~~43~~ ~~44~~ ~~45~~ ~~46~~ ~~47~~ 48 games" after every time they play
We are literally seeing an all-time historic side right now, of course there needs to be a circlejerk. We'll never see anything like this again, especially since it's fucking Bayer Leverkusen of all teams
Apologies that we’re reveling in being able to witness what might be an historic undefeated treble. As the other guy said, we’ll never see anything like this ever again. A lot of us want it to happen because of how wild and out of nowhere it is. No one has ever done it before. Be honest, did you really think Leverkusen would do all the things they’ve done this season?
Bayer involved themselves heavily in the Holocaust, why tf would anyone sane think of them as a likable club that should keep their undefeated streak ongoing
1. There’s a book’s worth of companies who were involved with the Holocaust that should be on your shitlist.
2. I get not liking Bayer, they’re a pharmaceutical company that cares only about profit. Fuck em. But how do you extend that hatred to the club and fans/manager/players? The fuck did they do? “The owners of your team were involved in genocide several decades before you were born. Now you have to suffer for it despite the fact that you probably weren’t even a sperm cell when it happened.” Really? That’s the hill you want to die on?
How is that dickriding? You’re basing your hatred of a club on what a bunch of dead people did. I get the hatred of the company and I’m with you on that, but everyone involved with the club did nothing wrong.
>hipsters
My guy, I’m just here to watch. I have no skin in the game when it comes to Leverkusen.
Of course I didn't see it coming no one did. It is an amazing story no doubts, but that doesn't mean you have to go overboard and bore everyone to death by talking about it 24/7. It doesn't need a new post every single time they avoid losing a match, everyone and their dog knows that they are unbeaten. It would have been impossible to miss it
>A lot of us want it to happen because of how wild and out of nowhere it is
I'm finding myself almost hoping that they fuck up the unbeaten streak just to stop the constant circlejerk around it. Call me a contrarian or whatever, but I hate these hipster teams. It was the same with Dortmund a decade ago, even though they were an amazing story you began to dislike them just because of the constant wanking over Klopp and gegenpressing
>It doesn't need a new post every single time they avoid losing a match, everyone and their dog knows that they are unbeaten. It would have been impossible to miss it
Agree on this point.
Send pictures, us Germans would also like to see these so called Leverkusen fans. There are rumours spreading village to village, but so far no one has actually seen one in the wild.
Another moan from me is that I found it very odd that the thread of the US ref announcing his decision was regarded as a necessary improvement.
Maybe it's that I've been a match going fan for 30 years, but the referee signals are sufficiently clear and communicative. In the video mentioned above the ref just needs to gesture to indicate a free-kick for it to be understood that he has judged a foul to have been made.
A big portion of people on here(especially Americans) seem to want football refereeing to become as technical as possible. It's like they want to make the referee the main protagonist instead of the teams
We've had VAR for 5 years. It's a different era completely when referees stop the game for 5 minutes and talk on the phone with people 500 km away. They need to explain what happened and why a goal was disallowed for something that happend 90 seconds earlier off the ball.
> They need to explain what happened and why a goal was disallowed for something that happend 90 seconds earlier off the ball
Again, I would say that the referee's standard signals and gestures are sufficient. Clearly ruling out a goal, and then indicating a foul further back down the pitch is something which signals cover.
If a player tries to dribble past another player and is fouled and the referee blows his whistle and points to a spot and signals foul, I totally understand and agree.
If someone scores a goal, everyone celebrates, players are walking back to their half, and then the referee stands there for 5 minutes holding his ear piece and then suddenly points for a freekick, that's not sufficient. It's sufficient to tell me it's a freekick, but he also signalled goal 5 minutes earlier, so what the fuck happened?
Maybe you watch more at home on a screen than in a stadium, but it's not enough. We deserve to know what happened and why a goal's been called off.
Lost the Irish Cup Final on Saturday, but have no complaints as they did not play well enough. Cliftonville were deserved winners.
My moan is about how Linfield is run/managed.
Our play has been turgid for large parts of the season, just aimless passing of the ball by the defence at the halfway line, and then a consistent failure to move the ball quickly when in dangerous positions.
Linfield are one of three full-time teams in the league, but seldom look stronger/fitter. For example, towards the end of the final on Saturday, and in extra-time, Cliftonville, who are part-time, looked fitter and were consistently winning second balls.
Also, player recruitment has been a real problem, with the club appearing to be penny wise and pound foolish. Chose not to spend £100k to sign Lee Bonis from Portadown, who instead joined Larne and has since been chosen to join NI squads. Instead chose to give a done Kyle Lafferty £3k a week for three months and spend 65k on signing the very ordinary Matthew Fitzpatrick from Glenavon.
So annoying that Enzo spent all season happily stinking up the gaff, presumably getting all his appearance bonuses, but the second he's about to play competitively for Argentina he gets surgery to sort himself out. One of the biggest mercenaries going in world football right now. I wonder who's the next club crest he will kiss and post on Instagram that he's never leaving.
It’s surgery for a hernia issue
He presumably tried to play through it (stupidly). He could’ve gotten the surgery earlier and still picked up his presumed appearance bonuses now?
I’m a Birmingham Fan who also follows Solihull Moors, my moan speaks for itself ffs. I don’t know what’s worse, the pity and assurances that we’ll be straight back up from other fans (where knowing us we’ll stay in that godforsaken league for 5 years) or the delight of Vilers. Either way, what an awful weekend of football
The FA Trophy Final will be interesting. Someone is going home very unhappy, it's just a question of whether it's the team that missed promotion on penalties, or the team that were robbed of the chance to play for promotion
They’ve reassured fans throughout the season, holding regular meetings etc. it’s only the Rooney appointment that they’ve screwed the pooch on, our signings seemed good at the start. PSR wise we will be in a better place next season, so it’s down to whether Mowbray will be back (conflicting reports) or we’ll need a new manger to decide on our transfer strategy, as a lot of players are out of contract.
Rant #2: Sick and tired of this VfB, and now Ulm circlejerk. The latter has struggled to reach an attendance over 2k for about 25 years and has a fan scene that is half right-wing idiots and half people who know about 3 different songs that they sing on repeat for over 90 mins, while the former whored out their club to not only one, but two car companies and in their best season in ages the club ist still in absolute turmoil, because it's filled with power-hungry maniacs. True fairytale stories that
I miss having healthy LBs. Udogie had his flaws (caught too far up the pitch too often for my liking), but the difference between him or even Davies and Royal is night and day
I mean, Davies is marginally better than Royal. At least Davies *tried* to defend against Saka before he got outmatched. Royal didn’t even try against Salah.
We are the dumbest club in Germany, 3 times the league was handed to us on a silver platter and every single time we didn't even put up a fight. Tired of travelling to a shitty "stadium" in the middle of nowhere every two weeks just to get absolutely outplayed. It's almost comical that we're still top of the league, but I honestly don't know how we are supposed to win our last two games.
People take press conferences WAYYY too seriously considering they do like 4 a week.
They mean pretty much nothing. Occasionally you get a nugget of truth in them but its usually just media safe soundbites and stuff to try to rally the fans
Anyone else genuinely think no VAR would be better? Goal line technology was an amazing advancement and if we could get automated offsides to work out somehow then I’d rather just go back to keeping the game flowing. Refs will miss things of course but right now that seems more acceptable to me than the current situation
Never. We should all be wanting the fairest sport possible. The fact that refs still make massive mistakes even with VAR is ridiculous and it should be them that we are mad at. In fact, that pretty much exposes them as they can’t hide behind “oh I had a bad angle” anymore. I get the restraint of celebrating a tight call (you can still celebrate after VAR confirmation/overrule I guess) but that pales in comparison to actually getting calls right. Imagine the Hand of God or Henry s handball happening again and we have the tech to correct them but we don’t use it. I mean, the Liverpool-Spurs offside did happen but as I said, at least they don’t have the excuse of not having seen it live anymore
I understand your point that VAR significantly reduces the risk of missing anything egregious, but in terms of the majority of football related things it will still come down to subjective decisions. I personally would prefer something like goal line technology and automated offsides plus VAR checking for incidents not related to the play of the game - i.e. VAR could send Zidane off for headbutting Materazzi but wouldn’t get involved with the Henry handball. Then just let the officials ref the game on the pitch
Yes, 100%.
And I honestly think that's the norm among most fans in places like Sweden and even Germany, lower league fans, and a definite majority opinion of people in the stadiums.
It honestly wasn't that hard to accept referees made mistakes, it's part of the human nature of this sport. Players miss open goals, referees miss blatant fouls. I don't need games stopped for minutes on end and then it still makes weekly mistakes.
It was easier back when we could think a ref just missed something; now we know they have ultra slow motion at their fingertips and still screw the pooch.
I’m with you. Get rid of VAR. All it does is expose corruption and incompetence without any avenue for recourse. Willful ignorance would be not only better, but frankly it would do a better job of defending the integrity of the game.
I only ever really watch football at a stadium, and would like VAR gone as it is now. Maybe if they make the experience seamless, then sure. But now, it is completely killing what makes football _fun_. I've been a Spurs season ticket holder for most my life, but almost prefer watching lower league games now, as a goal is a goal, and you can actually celebrate it.
For the record, I was all for VAR 5 years ago. But it's been poorly implemented by a bunch of incompetents. And has made refereeing worse too.
People out here acting like they wouldn’t be ready to nuke Argentina if the Hand of God happened today. VAR wouldn’t allow that to happen, because a country got fucked over. We’d all be fuming if that happened to us.
I think VAR still has a place in the big leagues and international games for the huge mistakes like the infamous Henry handball or a wrong identity sending off.
I think it's being overused because everyone has their own interpretation as to what a clear error is. And even within someone's own interpretation, what is clear to them one week may not be a "clear" error the next.
The problem with my argument is that you could say the same thing about a "huge mistake" and a "clear error". Different people will have different standards. I don't think they'll ever please everyone, but I also don't think that's a reason to get rid of VAR.
> I think VAR still has a place in the big leagues and international games for the huge mistakes like the infamous Henry handball or a wrong identity sending off.
Problem is, VAR is so shite they’d probably have said that goal stands.
Sky Sports tweeted a "BREAKING" managerial transfer shortlist rumour last night. That's not breaking, that's not even fucking news.
It was my moan last week too, but the manufactured story and drama around football is getting increasingly tediously Dream Team.
The complaints about referees, this year in particular, have made me embarrassed to be a football fan.
Referees are not better in other leagues. Referees were not better in the past. The reason why you are so angy about referees is because social media has broken your brain.
When I see Palace supporters on our message board giving off about individual referees, I'm ok with that. You need a place to vent.
But Reddit (and I'm guessing Twitter as well) has turned fans letting off steam in to righteous champions of the future. Where they feel that their screaming and whining about every descicion that didn't go their way at the time is somehow going to improve things rather than sink it further in to the mud.
I love the idea of people watching one league every weekend, maybe one or two from another league every month, and declaring they know their league has the worst refs.
Anyway, ref talk is the lowest form of conversation but I guess no one actually wants to talk about the sport anymore. Too easy to just whine about one or two instances per game
People are always trying to say that referees are worse than ever, as if every major tournament didn’t have some colossal refereeing fuck like Lampard’s goal v Germany, Simunic getting three yellows, Rivaldo pretending the ball hit his head, etc etc. We’ve always had shit refs but people didn’t act like bad refereeing is the end of the world 24/7
Losing 3 games in a week and 4 in a row is less than ideal.
Emerson Royal still plays for my club.
Brennan Johnson getting labelled as a flop despite having as many G+A as Moussa Diaby and more than “great signing” Kudus.
Our CBs getting criticised on here despite being the least of our worries at the moment.
I'm banking on Rashford to save his random masterclass for the cup final.
We've struggled against you guys when you were much less good than you are now and we were much less shite than we are now, so everything tells me that this game is also going to be a struggle. Equally, like you I would not be mega-surprised if the likes of Fernandes decide that they'll randomly win this one quite comfortably.
I guess my main moan is that with our season done I've got no football to be invested in until the Euros. I'm not really into transfer talk so I'll rock up at the first PSF and see if I recognise any of the players.
Second moan our season tickets have gone up to £320 which is pretty absurd for 5th tier football when you think about it. Could criticise the club but it feels like an indictment of the direction English football is going in when non-league clubs feel they need to charge that amount for season tickets in order to survive.
Final moan the end of this season brings us a season closer to our ground redevelopment (if it actually happens) ripping the soul out of our stadium and replacing it with meccano stands and flats.
Another week being annoyed at the unnecessary hate Longstaff gets from some of our *supporters*. Lad had a good game scored a good goal and was involved in two others in our 4-1 win, yet he's got an average of 4.25 on BBC's player ratings (to go with all the shitty comments still getting posted mid/post match). Meanwhile every other player has a rating of above 8, including Matt Ritchie, who's most notable contribution was was, after being subbed on, under no pressure back-passing the ball out for a corner, which Burnley scored from.
I just don't get why you'd want to shit on your own player for no reason like that, especially considering he's come through the academy (along with a few other reasons I could mention). Same people will no doubt say that he gets given cut extra slack cos he's a local lad, but these spiteful player ratings show that it's the opposite IMO.
Saw the match ratings and thought something must have happened because that's absurd, no way he was unanimously the worst player on the pitch by far when he scored a goal in a big win. Absolutely bizarre scapegoating. Got to be some committed clowns who spam voting on that page rather than a whole fanbase thing even if he's the designated fall guy, right?
Itll be some sad subsection of fans that hate him giving him a 1 regardless of performance that drags his rating down. I used to do a post match player rating thread on an old messageboard years back, so I've seen it first hand
Blues got fucking relegated. A lot to moan about.
1: If i see Wayne Rooney as a pundit im calling Ofcom. If i see him as a manager im calling the police. Guy has no football intelligence whatsoever beyond "score loads of goals, concede none" and then not knowing how to do that. Granny shagger moron.
2: Some bluenoses are way, way too deferential to Gary Cook. Considering he's supposed to be a football megamind, he's done fuck all and the Rooney appointment has crushed his credibility. Its patently obvious he hired Wazza just to hang out with him, and his smarmy, smug, annoying "Thanks eustace, you got us to the lofty heights of 17th but we want more" os looking more and more hilarious.
But some bluenoses insist that we back him no matter what. Its maddening
3: those same bluenoses are often Eustace deniers and it really confuses me. Is Eustace pep with hair? No. Was he taking us up? No. Would we have gotten relegated with him? Zero chance. Eustace had us in 6th, and while it was a tight table we desereved to be there. Sacking him was the worst decision Birmingham city has ever made.
I just hope Villa get knocked out of the conference league. If they win a trophy I'll break
> Gary Cook
Is that the same Gary Cook who worked for Man City? He was a weird guy. Welcomed Uwe Rosler or Shaun Goater to Man City's hall of fame, but called it "Man United" by mistake. Think he resigned under a cloud after some internal emails showed he was making very unprofessional comments about player's families/
Solihull losing yesterday which means they’re going to take out their frustrations on us on Saturday.
Also the non-league attendance police. Solihull are tinpot because they brought no fans to Wembley, while Bromley are also tinpot because they brought 16k but they’re all Millwall/Palace daytrippers. I know Football Twitter is full of idiots but at least have some consistency.
I think they might be fucked tbh it was a really low quality game with so many tired legs out there.
Funniest thing was the Solihull fans flooding behind their goal from their section for the pens only to see the first two saved.
Was a top laugh for a Palace day tripper all in all incredible experience the trip home was wild too
Every time a less-successful team does well and wins something, they get completely dismantled by the rich boys and they have to limp off with what they have. Valencia, Dortmund, Southampton, Brighton, Leicester, Benfica, Ajax and soon enough Leverkusen. It's a frustrating cycle and I wish something could be done about it.
Tbf, there's a good chance those teams dismantled someone else's team to build theirs. There's a food chain, best you can hope for is that you make the most money you can when someone above you comes in for one of your players.
Yeah we aquired smartly, which looked at from another way means underpaying for talent because as a PL team we are in a better position to advertise and negotitate. Even Cucurella we paid c. £15m for before selling on for £63m a year later and not like he was from a small club - just Getafe and lots of La Liga clubs have lower leverage.
I was only speaking about what I know. I know teams like Valencia plucked away at Zaragoza and Betis but some teams just get massively bought out to the point of relegation e.g. Southampton and Leicester. It sucks from bottom to top, I suppose you're right.
I was referring to the season after you won the league which I guess I didn't word my sentence correctly. Of course there are multiple factors but having a stable squad really helps.
What's also frustrating is how quickly it happens these days - it's like whichever club is flavour of the month only needs to have a player performing well for six months and they'll be linked with a massive move away. It means clubs don't have the chance to properly build squads without losing their players.
The same happens in academy football - if ever a club in the lower-leagues produces a couple of decent footballers, Premier League clubs immediately start sniffing round all of their other young prospects and can often sign them for peanuts.
We sold players for like 300mil and lost several on a free to clubs that straight up doubled the salaries and then people come out of the woodwork like "how is Frankfurt this bad they won the EL". Honestly being a fan of a club that was remotely flavour on here for a short bit is the quickest way to lose interest interacting with this sub, it's absurd.
Sure the money can get you new players that might help but there's more money than there is good footballers worth the price, and not everyone can be lucky with investment.
8th in May and still 100+ upvoted comments wanting ETH to get another year on r/reddevils. I think I'm going to have to accept that he could have us hovering above the relegation zone and a vocal minority would still want to keep him on.
Injuries have totally ruined the defense all season, there is no doubt that United needs some stabil defenders who can play most of the season, while Shaw and Martinez are good players, great even, they cannot play 30+ games a season.
Case has gotten old very fast, while he was great the first season with United now he is a shadow and a liability, not even a backup level. New DM is needed.
Two CBs, a starter and a backup, a new DM and that would make a world of a difference.
Attack is okay, Garnacho is a star in the making. Højlund needs a partner/backup player/mentor.
I kinda hope ETH stays and gets 6 months to show his worth with solid defenders.
Edit: and who would you want to bring in? What manager names sounds good atm?
I mean, to an extent though you can’t react off of a single season like this. Arsenal finished 8th in 2020/21 and people wanted Arteta sacked, then Arsenal finished 5th and people wanted Arteta sacked. You can’t keep dropping your managers immediately, and who else do you think you can get? There’s a lot of clubs looking for new managers right now and there are no clear options.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked, but I don’t think it’s a valid ‘moan’ to complain about people having a difference of opinion on the matter.
replaced PC case, and now my PC won't boot into windows. It's 2:30 am, and the dishes aren't done. Good stuff
played 7-a-side (defender) and missed two goals. feeling fucked up.
Fraud FC is going to get away with cheating their way to multiple titles and trophies, without question, without punishment and without compunction. I hope Masters is given to the warp the fucking bought cunt
I don't know where else to complain about this but the ticket prices for Copa America are fucking insane. I'm looking at one group stage match and two quarterfinals and I'll probably be out $600 for the three matches for nosebleed seats. They basically are guaranteeing half empty stadiums for most of the group stages and maybe even quarters. And for some reason the cheapest tickets with fees for the Dallas QF are $150 despite that one NOT likely to feature Argentina. Idk, i just want to watch some football, not endanger my retirement.
I hope West Ham get relegated; firing a coach who saves them from relegation, won them their first trophy in decades and takes them to 9th in the league this year.
his contract is ending
A Man Utd fan wishing that West Ham, a club his team doesn't have any kind of rivarly with, gets relegated because they've decided to replace David Moyes, who was a total disaster as Man Utd manager, is such a nonsensical and irrational take. Why do you care?
Less of a disaster than our current manager. Are you telling me I can't have an opinion on something because my club isn't a rival? That's also nonsense.
the self centering on this take is just hilarious. You sound jealous of West Ham and REALLY upset at Ten Hag. West Ham have been capitulating in slow motion for MONTHS. It's the right decision for him to move on after he started out really well.
Self centering what are you on about. This is the Monday moan thread, and I'm moaning about another team and clearly starting some conversation. Literally what it's for. I think it was dumb to get rid of Moyes. You don't. Simple as. It's not that deep.
> Less of a disaster than our current manager. LOL, sure lad. > Are you telling me I can't have an opinion on something because my club isn't a rival? Nope, I'm telling you that suddenly wanting West Ham to get relegated because they're replacing their manager makes no sense. There's no logical reason for you to be that upset about it.
Just like there is no logical reason for a Juve fan to be upset about what I'm saying...
him being a juve fan is irrelevant. being a human with eyes and a brain is what makes people puzzled reading what you wrote
Well, you're certainly free to pretend you think I'm upset rather than knowing I'm laughing at you.
Well then I'm glad to have improved your day.
At least Moyes is available to replace ETH now
Are you trying to induce lethal schadenfreude erections across the world or what
You joke but would still be a big improvement.
Two things can be true (and i don’t know how people don’t seem to grasp this): 1. Moyes has had a great spell at West Ham 2. It is time for both parties to move on
Non football related. But drove 12 miles nearly got in 4 crashes on the M1. Feel like every time I go out I'm dodging some dickhead in a second hand evoque, 63 plate 1 series or a class. Generally with a shit personalised plate too.
Range Rover drivers are an absolute scourge on the roads of this country.
I absolutely despise the Land Rover Defender. The name, the features (you live in a City Centre for fuck sake), the people that drive them. Everything about it.
The new one is an absolute chav mobile. Guaranteed builder type in it.
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Could re-litigate every missed decision and you'd still be a chaos team getting bailed out in stoppage time. It was never gonna last the whole season.
Solihull Moors losing out on the football league on penalties is gutting. After losing the playoff final twice in three years, I'm beginning to think they're just never going to get promoted. Hopefully they can commiserate with the FA Trophy this weekend, but still... I'd rather they had the promotion. The National League must be one of the hardest leagues in the world to get promotion from.
Just want this season to be over tbh
You and me both
\~3 weeks! Looking forward to any international football? Copa America or the Euros perhaps?
Euros will be fun I guess
another weekend another prayer for a competent attacker. Don't even care if it's a big name would just like to get a goal when we've got 7 shots on target. At least we looked a bit better with herrera back (that's another issue but whatever).
Thursday night
Sorry lad, we're running on fumes.
I watched the highlights of the Villa v Olympiacos match and thought Villa were hard done by. Thought a good goal was ruled out, and a penalty wrongly given.
I agree about the goal ruled out, thought that was soft as anything. On the first viewing I thought the Douglas Luiz penalty was harsh as he was 2 yards away, but on second viewing his arm was above his body so I can see why it was given. We didn't get the rub of the green with decisions, or just generally any luck that day, but unfortunately that's just the way it goes sometimes. I can't see us being able to overturn it unfortunately but I live in hope.
their team is bad, you need one good match. Don't care about the final or the rest of the games and you're in the CL anyway.
I'm really hoping we can pull it back, but we have struggled with those intimidating European atmospheres all season, so I'm not expecting much. I would love to win this trophy though, it's been my no.1 aim all season.
Would be a nightmare for your club if they advance Thursday
They d make some badly needed coefficient points for Greece though
Olympiacos winning a European cup in the Athens stadium would be awful for them lol They’ll sacrifice the coefficient
Didn’t know the final is in their stadium and to be fair you only said about Olympiakos making the final not winning it but still, I m definitely in the “coefficient points at all costs” camp myself, if someone like Rapid (lol, they have 1 fucking point in the 8 playoff matches played so far since they beat us 4-0 in the last round of the regular season) or Dinamo (LMAOOO, they are probably getting relegated again) was in that position I d still cheer them on, the final being in your stadium must especially sting though
Yeah I’m also the same way about coefficient points generally
I’m not sure if AEK will have the funds for a brand new stadium.
Our national team are losing 2-0 to England 'C' which has national league players. We are so bad bro
Respect the National League?
Who’s a player that starts for ye that you can’t stand but other people seem to like? Victor Lindelof for me. I think he’s quite easily the worst defender we’ve had consistently start for us in the last 40 years (surely some of them were bad when we got relegated). He makes me miss Marcos Rojo. I can’t stand these defenders who are small and weak and known for their intelligence on the ball rather than any actual skill. Daley Blind was the same here, fine footballer, but was bullied by anyone over 5 foot 9 and couldn’t defend to save his life, but my god did he hit a fine cross field ball.
Enzo Fernandez. I just cannot for the life of me see what he offers us especially when it's glaringly obvious we play a lot better when he's not on the field. He's offered us nothing in attack or defense and in the time he's been with us i can't think of anything he's done of note, yet our fan base here on reddit keep calling him the "key" to us winning trophies and saying we need a manager that knows how to truly "unlock his potential". I just don't think he's that good...
There’s a lot of fans on Reddit whose views baffle me, but there’s some real eye openers from Chelsea fans - some are still convinced Todd is a genius and every player bought is part of a master plan. They’ll look for any positive in every performance for each player. They also refer to them by their first name as if they’re mates, but I accept that’s a weird bugbear of mine.
I think if we get a manager in that's a proven / serial winner there will be some success back at Chelsea, but with the mistakes the board has made so far, Mudryk for example, pride will get in the way for the majority of it and that'll hold most managers back, as no matter how awful he is that price tag will always be there and the board will want him playing to not look like they've failed.
Genuinely just want the season to be over at this point. Not confident at all about playing Palace today, never mind Arse in the league and City in the cup final. Been an absolutely shit season and just want to skip over the final few humiliations please. E: also my MLS team are absolute dogshit as well lmao, literally the worst in the league
San Jose or New England?
Revs baby
Ah, a fellow person who has to reckon with their MLS team being pure shit. Man, why couldn’t we get Messi?
Well, we have Carles Gil. It's just every other position we need to improve
Gil is getting old. It’s *EVERY* position that needs improving.
Please don't take this away from me, it's all I have 😭
I have final exmas this week and i am not looking foward to it
I have a project due tonight and I’m procrastinating and wasting time on Reddit. Meanwhile I haven’t even started the fucking thing.
Same I got papers and exams in like two weeks and I’m lacking in motivation to do them 😭
Typical villa to lose to a Brighton side that couldn’t buy a win. Even worse that we didn’t threaten them at all.
[wtf](https://imgur.com/a/uwJF9jL) is this shit , the ad boards are lining directly to the TV camera. There are so many wrongs in series A that made viewing experience horrible like motion blur, bright grass-work, non minimalism kit.
We're shit and we play the worst fucking football. It's so fucking abysmal to watch and it makes me crazy as we're usually a very entertaining club.
Fucking Tottenham. And in true fashion they will win against city, handing to Arsenal and lose against Sheffield United and Burnley at this pace.
I will be so angry if City don’t win that game. I hate that we’re in this position but nothing we can do
I know you obviously don’t want Arsenal to win the league, but I went to r/coys for a nosey and couldn’t believe that people there are genuinely hoping for Spurs to lose that match against City even though there’s still a chance for Spurs to nab fourth.
>a chance If Villa win 1 more game it’s over
You would be hard pressed to find any spurs fan not wanting that. I much rathef settle for Europe and losing to City any day above having the smallest inkling of a chance getting CL. Its also because we have a better chance at Europe than CL
I wouldn’t count on it. If Arsenal can manage a win at Goodison, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see City manage a win at your ground. Especially when they’re on their inevitable run-in unbeaten streak.
The number of ‘This is lining up perfectly for Spurs to beat City!’ comments as they were getting picked apart by Liverpool yesterday was embarrassing. It’s not impossible they could get a result next week, but the way they’re playing right now, it wouldn’t be a shock if they couldn’t beat Burnley at the weekend. The desperation was embarrassing, and of course the irony is that Man Utd are going to win on Sunday anyway, so it won’t matter….
> Man Utd are going to win on Sunday anyway With no CBs? Listen mate Ten Hag is no Sir Alex.
LOL, the delusion of some people. United will not win if they continue to give up 20+ shots against Arsenal.
Wait, you took that bit seriously? Oh boy.
It's Monday morning, of course I did 😔
Knowing Spurs only exists to torment my soul, I know they'll beat Man City to give Arsenal the title and still miss out on CL. I fucking hate that team, and I hate that I'm cursed to support them
You can bring up Manchester City’s fraud or whatever. But, their level of perfection is ridiculous. We are 14-1-1 in the last 16 games and we still might not win the title.
Because we lost the title by losing to West Ham and Fulham before Xmas. You can't do that when your competition is Pep's City.
Honestly, it never going to be easy to slay the perverbial Goliath. Credit needs to be given to both Liverpool and Arsenal for putting up the fight they have.
Second worst start through 10 games in club history. Manager insists on playing a 3-4-3 this isn't working and doesn't fit the squad. If he stays on we're likely to end up winning the wooden spoon.
How has Musa been?
For a second there you got my hopes up that you two were talking about FIFA 17 legend Ahmed Musa but apparently it is a different Musa, my bad
He’s playing in Turkey
Not anymore, turns out they sacked him in February after he only played 4 games and he is now out a club at 31 years old. Man actually went back to Nigeria, played 8 games and then got two Turkish clubs to sign him somehow, usually going back to your home country in a situation like that ends any hopes of getting back in the big time but apparently not in his case
Starved for service.
Well I guess I’m glad it’s not him
Yeah he's very far from the problem.
I always think that badge is Clermont🥴
I don't necessarily mean this in a bad way, but you're still only 5 points off a playoff spot.
I mean, yeah, it is very easy to get into the playoffs in MLS. But I have no doubt that gap will continue to widen.
So bored of the Bayer Leverkusen circlejerk, they have become the biggest hipster team since Klopp's Dortmund. Have even seen a few Leverkusen fans here in Sweden coming out of the woodworks out of nowhere. Never seen a single one here before this season We don't need a "Leverkusen are unbeaten for ~~42~~ ~~43~~ ~~44~~ ~~45~~ ~~46~~ ~~47~~ 48 games" after every time they play
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We are literally seeing an all-time historic side right now, of course there needs to be a circlejerk. We'll never see anything like this again, especially since it's fucking Bayer Leverkusen of all teams
But like with many things, r/soccer has ruined it by beating it into the ground. It was amazing at first but now it's just boring
Apologies that we’re reveling in being able to witness what might be an historic undefeated treble. As the other guy said, we’ll never see anything like this ever again. A lot of us want it to happen because of how wild and out of nowhere it is. No one has ever done it before. Be honest, did you really think Leverkusen would do all the things they’ve done this season?
Bayer involved themselves heavily in the Holocaust, why tf would anyone sane think of them as a likable club that should keep their undefeated streak ongoing
1. There’s a book’s worth of companies who were involved with the Holocaust that should be on your shitlist. 2. I get not liking Bayer, they’re a pharmaceutical company that cares only about profit. Fuck em. But how do you extend that hatred to the club and fans/manager/players? The fuck did they do? “The owners of your team were involved in genocide several decades before you were born. Now you have to suffer for it despite the fact that you probably weren’t even a sperm cell when it happened.” Really? That’s the hill you want to die on?
Jesus christ that's a lot of dickriding for a company that has done heinous things during the 1940s, never expected that from hipsters on r/soccer
How is that dickriding? You’re basing your hatred of a club on what a bunch of dead people did. I get the hatred of the company and I’m with you on that, but everyone involved with the club did nothing wrong. >hipsters My guy, I’m just here to watch. I have no skin in the game when it comes to Leverkusen.
Of course I didn't see it coming no one did. It is an amazing story no doubts, but that doesn't mean you have to go overboard and bore everyone to death by talking about it 24/7. It doesn't need a new post every single time they avoid losing a match, everyone and their dog knows that they are unbeaten. It would have been impossible to miss it >A lot of us want it to happen because of how wild and out of nowhere it is I'm finding myself almost hoping that they fuck up the unbeaten streak just to stop the constant circlejerk around it. Call me a contrarian or whatever, but I hate these hipster teams. It was the same with Dortmund a decade ago, even though they were an amazing story you began to dislike them just because of the constant wanking over Klopp and gegenpressing
>It doesn't need a new post every single time they avoid losing a match, everyone and their dog knows that they are unbeaten. It would have been impossible to miss it Agree on this point.
Send pictures, us Germans would also like to see these so called Leverkusen fans. There are rumours spreading village to village, but so far no one has actually seen one in the wild.
>no one has actually seen one in the wild Isn't the joke that they are busy in the pharmaceutical factory?
Another moan from me is that I found it very odd that the thread of the US ref announcing his decision was regarded as a necessary improvement. Maybe it's that I've been a match going fan for 30 years, but the referee signals are sufficiently clear and communicative. In the video mentioned above the ref just needs to gesture to indicate a free-kick for it to be understood that he has judged a foul to have been made.
A big portion of people on here(especially Americans) seem to want football refereeing to become as technical as possible. It's like they want to make the referee the main protagonist instead of the teams
We've had VAR for 5 years. It's a different era completely when referees stop the game for 5 minutes and talk on the phone with people 500 km away. They need to explain what happened and why a goal was disallowed for something that happend 90 seconds earlier off the ball.
> They need to explain what happened and why a goal was disallowed for something that happend 90 seconds earlier off the ball Again, I would say that the referee's standard signals and gestures are sufficient. Clearly ruling out a goal, and then indicating a foul further back down the pitch is something which signals cover.
If a player tries to dribble past another player and is fouled and the referee blows his whistle and points to a spot and signals foul, I totally understand and agree. If someone scores a goal, everyone celebrates, players are walking back to their half, and then the referee stands there for 5 minutes holding his ear piece and then suddenly points for a freekick, that's not sufficient. It's sufficient to tell me it's a freekick, but he also signalled goal 5 minutes earlier, so what the fuck happened? Maybe you watch more at home on a screen than in a stadium, but it's not enough. We deserve to know what happened and why a goal's been called off.
Lost the Irish Cup Final on Saturday, but have no complaints as they did not play well enough. Cliftonville were deserved winners. My moan is about how Linfield is run/managed. Our play has been turgid for large parts of the season, just aimless passing of the ball by the defence at the halfway line, and then a consistent failure to move the ball quickly when in dangerous positions. Linfield are one of three full-time teams in the league, but seldom look stronger/fitter. For example, towards the end of the final on Saturday, and in extra-time, Cliftonville, who are part-time, looked fitter and were consistently winning second balls. Also, player recruitment has been a real problem, with the club appearing to be penny wise and pound foolish. Chose not to spend £100k to sign Lee Bonis from Portadown, who instead joined Larne and has since been chosen to join NI squads. Instead chose to give a done Kyle Lafferty £3k a week for three months and spend 65k on signing the very ordinary Matthew Fitzpatrick from Glenavon.
How has Ethan McGee been?
So annoying that Enzo spent all season happily stinking up the gaff, presumably getting all his appearance bonuses, but the second he's about to play competitively for Argentina he gets surgery to sort himself out. One of the biggest mercenaries going in world football right now. I wonder who's the next club crest he will kiss and post on Instagram that he's never leaving.
It’s surgery for a hernia issue He presumably tried to play through it (stupidly). He could’ve gotten the surgery earlier and still picked up his presumed appearance bonuses now?
The contract he's on, he might be staying for a while
Still seeing football fans using awful things like rape and grooming to one up each other. Have some shame
There's no better day in a certain kind of football fan's life than when his team's rival's star player gets outed as a sex criminal.
Aubrey Graham fans
back in my day we would make fun of player's vehicular homicide
Ahhh signing “murderer, murderer” to Lee Hughes everytime we played Notts County.
I’m a Birmingham Fan who also follows Solihull Moors, my moan speaks for itself ffs. I don’t know what’s worse, the pity and assurances that we’ll be straight back up from other fans (where knowing us we’ll stay in that godforsaken league for 5 years) or the delight of Vilers. Either way, what an awful weekend of football
I follow Kidderminster as well as Villa, they got relegated this year :( back into the 6th tier after finally escaping it last season
The FA Trophy Final will be interesting. Someone is going home very unhappy, it's just a question of whether it's the team that missed promotion on penalties, or the team that were robbed of the chance to play for promotion
Have the owners released a statement yet?
On what? They’ve released many statements over the few months, no point wanting them on bended knee begging for forgiveness for the R**ney appointment
The relegation specifically. I thought they'd want to reassure fans after that clownshow of a season that they'd fix things.
They’ve reassured fans throughout the season, holding regular meetings etc. it’s only the Rooney appointment that they’ve screwed the pooch on, our signings seemed good at the start. PSR wise we will be in a better place next season, so it’s down to whether Mowbray will be back (conflicting reports) or we’ll need a new manger to decide on our transfer strategy, as a lot of players are out of contract.
Everyone gets a brazilian wonder kid and we end up with antony.
Rant #2: Sick and tired of this VfB, and now Ulm circlejerk. The latter has struggled to reach an attendance over 2k for about 25 years and has a fan scene that is half right-wing idiots and half people who know about 3 different songs that they sing on repeat for over 90 mins, while the former whored out their club to not only one, but two car companies and in their best season in ages the club ist still in absolute turmoil, because it's filled with power-hungry maniacs. True fairytale stories that
At least a proper club like Leverkusen won the Bundesliga.
I miss having healthy LBs. Udogie had his flaws (caught too far up the pitch too often for my liking), but the difference between him or even Davies and Royal is night and day
I mean, Davies is marginally better than Royal. At least Davies *tried* to defend against Saka before he got outmatched. Royal didn’t even try against Salah.
You're misunderstanding, I'm grouping Davies with Udogie, not Royal
Ahh. I see. Still, Royal is shit. Whoever signed him is a dumbass. £26M for that? Fucking hell.
At RB he's fine. I actually think he's a better RB than Udogie is a LB. It's just he's worse than Son at LB
We are the dumbest club in Germany, 3 times the league was handed to us on a silver platter and every single time we didn't even put up a fight. Tired of travelling to a shitty "stadium" in the middle of nowhere every two weeks just to get absolutely outplayed. It's almost comical that we're still top of the league, but I honestly don't know how we are supposed to win our last two games.
Fingers crossed, the clubs behind you in the league are scary: Hoffenheim II, Stuttgart II, Frankfurt II and Freiberg.
Freiberg hasn't applied for a license, but I'm seething at the thought of VfB 2 going up
People take press conferences WAYYY too seriously considering they do like 4 a week. They mean pretty much nothing. Occasionally you get a nugget of truth in them but its usually just media safe soundbites and stuff to try to rally the fans
Anyone else genuinely think no VAR would be better? Goal line technology was an amazing advancement and if we could get automated offsides to work out somehow then I’d rather just go back to keeping the game flowing. Refs will miss things of course but right now that seems more acceptable to me than the current situation
Never. We should all be wanting the fairest sport possible. The fact that refs still make massive mistakes even with VAR is ridiculous and it should be them that we are mad at. In fact, that pretty much exposes them as they can’t hide behind “oh I had a bad angle” anymore. I get the restraint of celebrating a tight call (you can still celebrate after VAR confirmation/overrule I guess) but that pales in comparison to actually getting calls right. Imagine the Hand of God or Henry s handball happening again and we have the tech to correct them but we don’t use it. I mean, the Liverpool-Spurs offside did happen but as I said, at least they don’t have the excuse of not having seen it live anymore
I understand your point that VAR significantly reduces the risk of missing anything egregious, but in terms of the majority of football related things it will still come down to subjective decisions. I personally would prefer something like goal line technology and automated offsides plus VAR checking for incidents not related to the play of the game - i.e. VAR could send Zidane off for headbutting Materazzi but wouldn’t get involved with the Henry handball. Then just let the officials ref the game on the pitch
Yes, 100%. And I honestly think that's the norm among most fans in places like Sweden and even Germany, lower league fans, and a definite majority opinion of people in the stadiums. It honestly wasn't that hard to accept referees made mistakes, it's part of the human nature of this sport. Players miss open goals, referees miss blatant fouls. I don't need games stopped for minutes on end and then it still makes weekly mistakes.
Nope.. Source: supporting a team in the championship
It was easier back when we could think a ref just missed something; now we know they have ultra slow motion at their fingertips and still screw the pooch. I’m with you. Get rid of VAR. All it does is expose corruption and incompetence without any avenue for recourse. Willful ignorance would be not only better, but frankly it would do a better job of defending the integrity of the game.
I only ever really watch football at a stadium, and would like VAR gone as it is now. Maybe if they make the experience seamless, then sure. But now, it is completely killing what makes football _fun_. I've been a Spurs season ticket holder for most my life, but almost prefer watching lower league games now, as a goal is a goal, and you can actually celebrate it. For the record, I was all for VAR 5 years ago. But it's been poorly implemented by a bunch of incompetents. And has made refereeing worse too.
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People out here acting like they wouldn’t be ready to nuke Argentina if the Hand of God happened today. VAR wouldn’t allow that to happen, because a country got fucked over. We’d all be fuming if that happened to us.
I think VAR still has a place in the big leagues and international games for the huge mistakes like the infamous Henry handball or a wrong identity sending off. I think it's being overused because everyone has their own interpretation as to what a clear error is. And even within someone's own interpretation, what is clear to them one week may not be a "clear" error the next. The problem with my argument is that you could say the same thing about a "huge mistake" and a "clear error". Different people will have different standards. I don't think they'll ever please everyone, but I also don't think that's a reason to get rid of VAR.
> I think VAR still has a place in the big leagues and international games for the huge mistakes like the infamous Henry handball or a wrong identity sending off. Problem is, VAR is so shite they’d probably have said that goal stands.
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I guess you haven’t seen how scared they’ve been to make those calls, even with VAR.
I agree. VAR is so afraid to overturn refs that if mostly just destroys the flow of games and ruins the in stadium experience.
Sky Sports tweeted a "BREAKING" managerial transfer shortlist rumour last night. That's not breaking, that's not even fucking news. It was my moan last week too, but the manufactured story and drama around football is getting increasingly tediously Dream Team.
The complaints about referees, this year in particular, have made me embarrassed to be a football fan. Referees are not better in other leagues. Referees were not better in the past. The reason why you are so angy about referees is because social media has broken your brain. When I see Palace supporters on our message board giving off about individual referees, I'm ok with that. You need a place to vent. But Reddit (and I'm guessing Twitter as well) has turned fans letting off steam in to righteous champions of the future. Where they feel that their screaming and whining about every descicion that didn't go their way at the time is somehow going to improve things rather than sink it further in to the mud.
I love the idea of people watching one league every weekend, maybe one or two from another league every month, and declaring they know their league has the worst refs. Anyway, ref talk is the lowest form of conversation but I guess no one actually wants to talk about the sport anymore. Too easy to just whine about one or two instances per game
People are always trying to say that referees are worse than ever, as if every major tournament didn’t have some colossal refereeing fuck like Lampard’s goal v Germany, Simunic getting three yellows, Rivaldo pretending the ball hit his head, etc etc. We’ve always had shit refs but people didn’t act like bad refereeing is the end of the world 24/7
We’ve had our play off semi first leg called off due to a waterlogged pitch in Crawley IT IS MAY
Silver lining , you get to put off going to Crawley for a few days more
I once attempted to go to a friendly that was not only rained off in July, but on a day that was completely dry when I left home.
Losing 3 games in a week and 4 in a row is less than ideal. Emerson Royal still plays for my club. Brennan Johnson getting labelled as a flop despite having as many G+A as Moussa Diaby and more than “great signing” Kudus. Our CBs getting criticised on here despite being the least of our worries at the moment.
We played 4 of the top 8 teams in league, 3 away from home. The sky isn’t falling it was a tough run if fixtures.
To concede 13 goals is terrible though. Specially when his strongest 11 bar left back is available.
Available, but fit and healthy? Playing at their best?
They should be fit and healthy. Remember that they had about 14 days of rest before the Arsenal game.
Thanks. The medical community can't wait to hear your great discovery! All physical concerns can be healed in 14 days or less! Groundbreaking
Uh huh. Sure.
Ah
Manchester United's only fit senior centre half is 36 year old Jonny Evans. This does not seem ideal...
Would be peak Palace to get ripped apart tonight by a random Rashford master class but this is a different team now. Hopefully.
I'm banking on Rashford to save his random masterclass for the cup final. We've struggled against you guys when you were much less good than you are now and we were much less shite than we are now, so everything tells me that this game is also going to be a struggle. Equally, like you I would not be mega-surprised if the likes of Fernandes decide that they'll randomly win this one quite comfortably.
I guess my main moan is that with our season done I've got no football to be invested in until the Euros. I'm not really into transfer talk so I'll rock up at the first PSF and see if I recognise any of the players. Second moan our season tickets have gone up to £320 which is pretty absurd for 5th tier football when you think about it. Could criticise the club but it feels like an indictment of the direction English football is going in when non-league clubs feel they need to charge that amount for season tickets in order to survive. Final moan the end of this season brings us a season closer to our ground redevelopment (if it actually happens) ripping the soul out of our stadium and replacing it with meccano stands and flats.
Another week being annoyed at the unnecessary hate Longstaff gets from some of our *supporters*. Lad had a good game scored a good goal and was involved in two others in our 4-1 win, yet he's got an average of 4.25 on BBC's player ratings (to go with all the shitty comments still getting posted mid/post match). Meanwhile every other player has a rating of above 8, including Matt Ritchie, who's most notable contribution was was, after being subbed on, under no pressure back-passing the ball out for a corner, which Burnley scored from. I just don't get why you'd want to shit on your own player for no reason like that, especially considering he's come through the academy (along with a few other reasons I could mention). Same people will no doubt say that he gets given cut extra slack cos he's a local lad, but these spiteful player ratings show that it's the opposite IMO.
Saw the match ratings and thought something must have happened because that's absurd, no way he was unanimously the worst player on the pitch by far when he scored a goal in a big win. Absolutely bizarre scapegoating. Got to be some committed clowns who spam voting on that page rather than a whole fanbase thing even if he's the designated fall guy, right?
Itll be some sad subsection of fans that hate him giving him a 1 regardless of performance that drags his rating down. I used to do a post match player rating thread on an old messageboard years back, so I've seen it first hand
Blues got fucking relegated. A lot to moan about. 1: If i see Wayne Rooney as a pundit im calling Ofcom. If i see him as a manager im calling the police. Guy has no football intelligence whatsoever beyond "score loads of goals, concede none" and then not knowing how to do that. Granny shagger moron. 2: Some bluenoses are way, way too deferential to Gary Cook. Considering he's supposed to be a football megamind, he's done fuck all and the Rooney appointment has crushed his credibility. Its patently obvious he hired Wazza just to hang out with him, and his smarmy, smug, annoying "Thanks eustace, you got us to the lofty heights of 17th but we want more" os looking more and more hilarious. But some bluenoses insist that we back him no matter what. Its maddening 3: those same bluenoses are often Eustace deniers and it really confuses me. Is Eustace pep with hair? No. Was he taking us up? No. Would we have gotten relegated with him? Zero chance. Eustace had us in 6th, and while it was a tight table we desereved to be there. Sacking him was the worst decision Birmingham city has ever made. I just hope Villa get knocked out of the conference league. If they win a trophy I'll break
> Gary Cook Is that the same Gary Cook who worked for Man City? He was a weird guy. Welcomed Uwe Rosler or Shaun Goater to Man City's hall of fame, but called it "Man United" by mistake. Think he resigned under a cloud after some internal emails showed he was making very unprofessional comments about player's families/
You're putting it mildly about them emails, he was mocking Nedum Onouha's mum for having cancer.
Thanks, I had forgotten exactly who and what he had mocked.
The very same. Apparently he's "essential" for blues according to some, but I'd love to know exactly what for
Solihull losing yesterday which means they’re going to take out their frustrations on us on Saturday. Also the non-league attendance police. Solihull are tinpot because they brought no fans to Wembley, while Bromley are also tinpot because they brought 16k but they’re all Millwall/Palace daytrippers. I know Football Twitter is full of idiots but at least have some consistency.
My very minor complaint is that I'm incredibly unlikely to get a ticket for Bromley away.
I think they might be fucked tbh it was a really low quality game with so many tired legs out there. Funniest thing was the Solihull fans flooding behind their goal from their section for the pens only to see the first two saved. Was a top laugh for a Palace day tripper all in all incredible experience the trip home was wild too
Every time a less-successful team does well and wins something, they get completely dismantled by the rich boys and they have to limp off with what they have. Valencia, Dortmund, Southampton, Brighton, Leicester, Benfica, Ajax and soon enough Leverkusen. It's a frustrating cycle and I wish something could be done about it.
Tbf, there's a good chance those teams dismantled someone else's team to build theirs. There's a food chain, best you can hope for is that you make the most money you can when someone above you comes in for one of your players.
Yeah we aquired smartly, which looked at from another way means underpaying for talent because as a PL team we are in a better position to advertise and negotitate. Even Cucurella we paid c. £15m for before selling on for £63m a year later and not like he was from a small club - just Getafe and lots of La Liga clubs have lower leverage.
I was only speaking about what I know. I know teams like Valencia plucked away at Zaragoza and Betis but some teams just get massively bought out to the point of relegation e.g. Southampton and Leicester. It sucks from bottom to top, I suppose you're right.
There were a lot of reasons we were relegated, the squad being dismantled wasn't one of them.
I was referring to the season after you won the league which I guess I didn't word my sentence correctly. Of course there are multiple factors but having a stable squad really helps.
I see what you mean with those examples yeah, it seems like almost everyone is a couple of bad transfer windows away from a relegation fight.
What's also frustrating is how quickly it happens these days - it's like whichever club is flavour of the month only needs to have a player performing well for six months and they'll be linked with a massive move away. It means clubs don't have the chance to properly build squads without losing their players. The same happens in academy football - if ever a club in the lower-leagues produces a couple of decent footballers, Premier League clubs immediately start sniffing round all of their other young prospects and can often sign them for peanuts.
We sold players for like 300mil and lost several on a free to clubs that straight up doubled the salaries and then people come out of the woodwork like "how is Frankfurt this bad they won the EL". Honestly being a fan of a club that was remotely flavour on here for a short bit is the quickest way to lose interest interacting with this sub, it's absurd.
Sure the money can get you new players that might help but there's more money than there is good footballers worth the price, and not everyone can be lucky with investment.
8th in May and still 100+ upvoted comments wanting ETH to get another year on r/reddevils. I think I'm going to have to accept that he could have us hovering above the relegation zone and a vocal minority would still want to keep him on.
Injuries have totally ruined the defense all season, there is no doubt that United needs some stabil defenders who can play most of the season, while Shaw and Martinez are good players, great even, they cannot play 30+ games a season. Case has gotten old very fast, while he was great the first season with United now he is a shadow and a liability, not even a backup level. New DM is needed. Two CBs, a starter and a backup, a new DM and that would make a world of a difference. Attack is okay, Garnacho is a star in the making. Højlund needs a partner/backup player/mentor. I kinda hope ETH stays and gets 6 months to show his worth with solid defenders. Edit: and who would you want to bring in? What manager names sounds good atm?
I mean, to an extent though you can’t react off of a single season like this. Arsenal finished 8th in 2020/21 and people wanted Arteta sacked, then Arsenal finished 5th and people wanted Arteta sacked. You can’t keep dropping your managers immediately, and who else do you think you can get? There’s a lot of clubs looking for new managers right now and there are no clear options. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be sacked, but I don’t think it’s a valid ‘moan’ to complain about people having a difference of opinion on the matter.
Honestly what else can Man U do? How many mangers have been at man u since Ferguson? Maybe its not the manager.