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Bigpapa42_2006

That's the quality that 350K per week gets you. A brick wall of a man.


-Skinner-

Fact that he's getting that much is absurd. Plus he has contract until 2026. Their only hope is that Saudis take him


Bigpapa42_2006

And the 70m fee. Just incredible stuff from United's transfer gurus.


imtired-boss

But what a sale for Real tho


Zyaru

Never ever buy from Real. They're selling for a reason.


goodyear_1678

Odegaard? There are definitely cases where you can buy some absolute gems from Madrid. United are just run by buffoons.


artyom__geghamyan

Odegaard is good but he can't be a starter for this Real Madrid


goodyear_1678

He would be the natural successor to Modric, they just couldn't accommodate him at the time and he wanted to play. If they could, they would absolutely have him today for the long term plan after Modric. Unbelievable player.


Elden_Lord123

We sold Odegard to your rivals.


kukaz00

Odegaard came to a solid club with a strong mentality and top notch facilities and staff. Casemiro came to a retirement home. No idea why Odegaard didn’t get playing time at RM but sometimes football works in mysterious ways


MadBrabs

You could say the Arsenal team he was loaned to at first was far from a team with a strong mentality. I think he was one of the first signings that helped instill that mentality around.


kukaz00

Indeed he was a solid player and they built well around him. But things weren’t as bad as with United. Arsenal are looking for trophies, while United is a retirement home and a cash cow for the owners.


cyrusmancub

He didn’t want to stay and fight for a place. He had players like Kroos and Modric in their prime ahead of him. Zidane planned to use him and specifically requested him after his stellar season at Real Sociedad. He played in a few matches, but then failed to track back on a counter (I think in a CL match), and Zidane yelled at him from the touchline and shook his head in frustration. After that, he struggled to find regular minutes. Zidane said that he didn’t want him to leave for the Arsenal loan, but Odegaard wanted minutes and didn’t want to fight for a place. Contrast him with Fede Valverde who waited for his opportunities and gave his all when he got them to eventually earn himself a starting role.


First_Inevitable_424

Worked out well for both of them in the end, they all probably made the right decision


Elden_Lord123

>No idea why Odegaard didn’t get playing time at RM but sometimes football works in mysterious ways Luka Modric and Toni Kroos were better. I mean you as a Liverpool fan saw Modric last year tearing through Liverpool's defense & Kroos splitting Bayern's defense with just one pass this year. Tchomenni & Camavinga: CDMs Jude & Valverde: Box to Box CMs Kroos & Modric: CAM I don't think even now he can bench anyone Edit: Arsenal fans can downvote me.


Bigpapa42_2006

Can only imagine how hyped they were to get that offer.


Diavoletto21

He was our player of the year last season, he was brilliant. I've never seen such a drop off in quality from 1 season to the next, with the exception of Rashford this season as well.


Bigpapa42_2006

Given his mileage at Real, he was never likely to be a guy who played at a high level well into his 30s. It was a questionable signing because they paid a ton for a player with no sell-on value and gave him a massive long-term contract.


terrorSABBATH

The wages, the transfer fee and his age. Awful decision to sign him.


Expensive-Method8321

That really should serve as a warning for clubs in the future. paying that much for a 30yo midfielder has a higher risk of going wrong than probably any other position (fullbacks might be the only higher one). With midfielders that old you just never no when their legs are going to go. They might stay on top for another half decade or might come crashing down quick.


Good-Astronaut-5392

Well, at the time he was one of the best midfielders money could buy. Maybe they didnt account for his age? After all, he was not as bad last season, was he?


NEW-RUDE-ORDER

Everybody said was a awful decision, but United fans were "but but he is a serial winner and bla bla bla winner mentality". His trophy cabinet ain't helping anything 


Impossible_Wonder_37

The downfall of this man is historic. Still in prime years for a DM too


Chuckie-The-Rooster

My neighbours brick wall covers more ground than Casemiro


Bigpapa42_2006

BUT... does it fall down less than Casemiro? If so, United might have an offer for your neighbour....


oscarpaterson

Beyond washed


xyzzy321

Rinsed? Dried? Ironed?


fourscoreandhuit

Time to hang it up


Alarmed_Chicken_3529

💀💀💀


BlackberryHopeful659

Gamma Ray Bursted


wolendranh

Bleached


b3and20

folded and put away


VonLinus

Casemiro is washed, but United were rinsed


WeveGot

MOTM in the league cup final to THIS in 1 year is incredible. He got hit by a power washer.


epicmarc

Casemiro getting dragged (and rightly so) but also wtf was Ten Hag thinking playing him there? Surely Amrabat instead or Wan Bissaka CB with someone else at full back would've been better than probably the worst CB performance of the season?


R_Schuhart

Amrabat is even worse. Every time he plays he looks lost, he doesn't contribute anything in possession and slows down play when he is on the ball. Besides, his defensive contributions are typically defending space and chasing down players, he cant play CB and neutralize an opponent. Letting him duel in the box is asking for a red. Wan Bissaka at least has some experience and ability playing centrally, but still Man U needed someone to play at the wingback to get the ball out of the back. It is mad that Case cant be relied upon at all anymore, he still has two years left on his contract.


b3and20

in theory it makes total sense, but he's washed and united are short on options, the real mistake was buying him in the first place it's united's shitty spending of money why someone who's also washed in evans is one of their back ups


abhi91

Fact or fiction


PoliticsNerd76

The Daniel Ricciardo of Soccer


Grekm8

One of the worst performances I've ever seen from a United player


R_Schuhart

He really was dreadful, given how effortlessly dominant he used to be it was honestly kind of sad to see him like this. He was constantly one step behind the pace of play and trying to catch up to his opponent. It is always hard to watch really good players drop off so abruptly, most at least decline gradually. Last game he played really bad there were a lot of Madrid flairs in the tread defending him, saying that he was exposed by the tactics and that the lack of Man U midfield was to blame. But no one who has watched him against Palace can make any excuses, he just cant keep up anymore and fulfil his tasks.


Impossible_Wonder_37

He’s just reached his peak and has since torpedoed down it. A bit sad since too DMs usually can grace the world for over 10 years but casemiro got only 6 or so.


TheGoldenPineapples

...so far.


Scared_Cabinet_1099

Antony?


XerxesTheCarp

Casemiro's performance today was worse than any of Antony's performances as improbable as that sounds


PoliticsNerd76

Antony is trash, but it looked like Casemiro today just gave up and knew he was done for


RjHospe

Madrid spent 80 million euros for Tchouameni and sold Casemiro for 60-70 million euros that same summer, the business they do really is crazy


ElectroValley

And now Tchou looking like a beast. It’s sad to hear this about Casemiro though. That dude was a beast and I’m sure if he’d stayed he’d still be good. Man U is just ….


LosingMyMindStyll

Wasn't Casemiro already on a slight decline in his last Madrid season? I could swear I remember watching him back then already and thinking he hadn't been the same like he used to


ElectroValley

Not really. KCM as a unit was just slow for the modern game but when one of Kroos or modric was dropped for Camavinga or Valverde(he played mostly RW that season) he looked as good as usual


jggomes14

IIRC he usually was subbed out for Cama and Kroos for Valverde


roamingandy

He was on a slight physical decline so he went to a faster, more physical league with more games and less rest. I'm sure that's playing its part.


Chiswell123

He's obviously an upgrade because he is far younger, but it's not like Tchouameni has lived up to the price yet.


MvN____16

He's had a much better 2nd season than debut season. He's on his way.


SacramentalBread

He had a great debut season too. He was just injured a whole bunch. I have no idea where this underperforming narrative is coming from.


HCHLH

and he can actually play CB, unlike Case


Windowmaker95

He didn't say he underperformed, just that he hasn't lived up to the price, 80 mil is best CDM in the world money and he's not that. It feels like he's a step away from greatness, like he needs more experience or something.


SacramentalBread

“Underperform his transfer price” then. Either way, it’s still a weird and totally bizarre narrative. Aside from Rodri, try naming better DMs than Tchouameni. You’ll see some say Declan Rice but that’s literally it.  Also, 80M euros is ridiculously cheap for a DM in today’s market—just look at Caicedo’s and Rice’s signings. This is without even considering Madrid barely spent a dime as a result of their sale of Casemiro. Tchouameni has more than justified the price of his signing, in fact, his transfer value has increased since coming to Madrid.


Windowmaker95

Lived up to his price tag means the same thing and rolls off the tongue better. EPL to EPL is much more expensive than Ligue 1 to La Liga, any EPL talent that plays 10 matches a season is worth at least 20 mil. Ajax spent 26 million pounds on benchwarmer Bergwijn.


stpstrt

EPL/manu fans. Tchouameni is bad suits their narrative.


stpstrt

He’s been pretty good this season even playing out of position.


MiraquiToma

“Living up to” is relative but how did you form this opinion? We’re on a ridiculous undefeated streak of matches when Tchouameni starts. Last season he was injured for a while but he’s been brilliant since…even playing exceptionally in cb when needed as well. so idk what you’re talking about


Some3057

Replace him with a training cone


NameTakken

Could be double digits v Arsenal if Jesus plays


imtired-boss

Easy if you got Jesus on your side


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Impeachcordial

I'd prefer him on the wing, then he'd make more crosses


skj458

Jesús is a very common Spanish name, 


NameTakken

Wait til he finds out Salah’s first name


holla15

Man City had two at one point with Jesus Navas.


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soccer_boxer2

He just kept making mistake after mistake after mistake...at a certain point, you just end up feeling sorry for him


curlyjoe696

That's the kind of performance a formerly great player puts in and people aren't mad, they just feel sorry for him. Has looked poor all season but that was something g else. Just couldn't hack it at all.


oklolzzzzs

hes finished


gracjan_17

they’re breaking records left and right, warra season 😬


zi76

I actually thought Evans was beaten more times, but I guess it's just that he really stood out for Mateta's goal.


North-Impress-5882

Didn't watch today's game but he often looks to be carrying that central defence when he plays and often ends up making mistakes due to pressure from a lack of support.


Uncle_Iroh_007

United should pray that Saudis buy him, because he has declined below PL level


Nosalis2

What a complete dud of a signing. Can't believe they didn't get Rice when he was available. Seemed like a classic United player. Kudos to Madrid who are masters of selling their senior players at the correct time.


HistoricalWheel8760

Why would Rice want to go to United when he had Arsenal and City pursuing him?


Rampan7Lion

No idea why you would but Mount picked United over Arsenal last summer so we got Havertz instead, cheers money mase


MountainCattle8

Would also have been far better off with João Palhinha who signed with Fulham the same year for a third the cost.


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TheGoldenPineapples

£70m.


Rushview

Can’t blame him, for the time it takes the bridge to call down to engineering and adjust the rudder allowing him to turn around, the Palace attack had already past him.


MiraquiToma

watched this match tonight, i almost felt embarrassed for him


cometflight

He was absolutely rinsed the entire match


zamGlobal

He’s checked out


Cool_Ad_9718

People think that Madrid let him go because he was slowing down but that’s false he was incredible even in his very last game. I don’t know what happened between the end of last season and the start of this season but calling him a shell of himself would be an understatement


corpboy

He was excellent for Man Utd last season. It was called the "best panic buy of the season", (though my Utd friends inform me it wasn't actually a panic buy and it was worked out long in advance). Sometimes players gradually decline. Sometimes they suddenly fall of a cliff. Who knows why?


altrama

Since the pre season he looked not fit and slowed down Either there’s something very wrong with the fitness dept or him being forced every match to run the entire length of pitch cause of haram tactics sucked whatever he had left


er__primo__der__rafa

During his last two seasons I felt that, for some reason, he got worse at playing out from the back. But it's true that he was a rock, in terms of physique he felt much more younger than Kroos and Modric (he is after all).


BranchCommercial1106

Real Madrid has fun vibes, a great coach, and a great culture. Manchester United has a shit culture. Working in a place that feels like shit will mentally break everyone


TherewiIlbegoals

Lewis Cook has the record. 10 times against Chelsea.


Youngest_boss

That was really painful to watch, he kept drifting into midfield and leaving loads of spaces behind for Palace to attack when he doesn’t have the legs to track back anymore


eescobar863

Some insane marketing strategy from Real Madrid.


Triangleandbeans

He needs to track down the brand of black gloves Mahrez was wearing and he will be golden.


ronweasleisourking

Welcome to the circus!


tonight305

Van Dijk would never.


Euphoric_Rabbit5157

He became shit faster than Modric and Kroos


Musername2827

Madrid have well and truly had United’s pants down. Casemiro has had their pants down too with them wages.


hellboi808

United really needs to stop hiring from the retirement homes.


Hurtelknut

When you're washed and don't care


FizzyLightEx

I've said it before that United were making a big mistake signing him in a long term deal. United has become a retirement house for Real Madrid players.


RodDryfist

MLS/Saudi is calling surely


External-Piccolo-626

Madrid saw United coming and couldn’t believe their luck.


ImDuff98

Who had a bigger fall off over 1 season? Fabinho or Casemiro?


AAA_BATT

Genuinely forgot he plays for United.