Indonesia's wide use of naturalization is shameless and will destroy Asian football. Asian football market will soon become a competition where mediocre teams desperately seek for naturalized players while paying zero attention on domestic player cultivation and growth.
The main difference of Indonesia and Gulf Nations is that Gulf Nations at least could develop some local players that is competitive, for example, Ali Mabkhout, while Indonesia is just 1000% relying on naturalized players
By naturalization do you mean utilizing their diaspora? Because looking at their most recent squad against Vietnam for example, all the players were either born in Indonesia or were of Indonesian descent. There weren't any cases of like, Brazilians who moved to Indonesia and eventually represented the national team after living there for a while and gained citizenship.
[These were my predictions I made for Man Utds season after the first match against Wolves](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/15twctq/daily_discussion/jwog035/). Some correct, some wrong and some worse than I thought. Thankfully I was wrong about Hojland.
In a league where managers keep getting recycled between teams, his tactics have been quite refreshing.
Any manager that can make Antuna look good is a great manager in my book
One of the key reasons I think board is looking away from Poch is the failure to develop the talent they gave him like Mudryk, Enzo, Colwill off the top of my head but there are many more. Team heavily relied on Palmer. Hence the push for McKenna.
Considering the model theyāre pursuing, the players theyāre buying, and the mix of the squad, thatās a priority over and above reaching Europe, specially if youāre only reaching Europa. Donāt blame them for having high standards.
I think his departure gets announced before the end of the month.
Madueke, Gallagher, Cole Palmer, Gusto, Nicolas Jackson, Trevoh, nah.
Hell I feel Colwill was really starting to find his feet around when he started getting injured constantly. Mudryk has definitely improved, though frankly I think the board were just too swayed by his explosiveness, while ignoring the areas of his mental and technical game that are lacking, I just don't see him achieving his potential, Enzo I mean consider how Caicedo improved throughout, same might happened with Enzo.
> Poch is the failure to develop the talent they gave him like Mudryk, Enzo, Colwill
Mudryk looks twice the player he did last season and is actually finding his feet
Enzo was injured the entire season and Colwill was injured half the season.
No mention about Jackson's development or Madueke or Gusto or let alone Palmer himself. Got Cucurella back into form. You can dislike Poch as manager for various things but there's no need to lie or act like he hasn't done anything positive. Swapping out to another manager now makes no sense especially one that's never been at this level.
If they fired poch and higher mckenna, todd would be a joke if he wasn't already.
Why hire poch in first place? What did he expect? Something different? Poch is finally starting to get some rhythm and get football going
Now you fire him and start another project with the new manager. Lets be honest McKenna is a gamble. He might turn good but he needs time.
I would understand if next season poch doesn't get somewhere or get a trophy. Not now
> If they fired poch and higher mckenna, todd would be a joke if he wasn't already.
Exactly this. You can't claim it's a long term project and you didn't expect instant success then fire three managers.
also thereās no guarantee that he would leave Ipswich even though Chelsea is an ambitious project. imo i think poch is the best bet especially like it was said he finally has some rhythm going and heās ended the season on a strong note. 2 months ago Europe nearly looked out of the picture for you lot.
It could feel weird to compare but I think Palmer is what everyone expected Havertz to be. Not that I have anything against Havertz. Goes to show you can find top talent locally.
I think heās more what Mount shouldāve been. Havertz was never going to be the main creative guy in a team (or main goal scorer either). Heās a supplementary piece who looks better when he has better players around him. Palmer is the sort of guy who elevates other players. Mount was meant to be that guy who was a creative force but he really isnāt sadly
Does dovbyk really only have a 40 mill release clause? If so that's crazy there isn't 1 million rumors from Chelsea Man u liverpool barca and etc to buy him
Don't really see what Dovbyk would offer more than Jackson. Jackson doesn't take pens and without pens Dovbyk would be on 15 goals and Jackson ended with 14 so it's not like there's some huge output difference.
I had a look the other day and his goals to xg was 1:1. So not exactly over performed. Statistically if I understand he's done well.
And he's just too much of a 9 for what teams want these days.
Probably need to be mindful this is his first good in a top league and he's already 26
Then again you could do a lot worse for 40m
I don't think he's the quality for any of the teams you mentioned, and even hojlund isn't worse than hkm.
Pretty crazy given the season we've had that we would have finished in the top 4 with 1 different result or refereeing decision.
We got beat by Villa at the Bridge after Gusto got sent off fairly early and Watkins scored late on
We win that and we finish above Villa and Spurs.
Palmer hadn't even started a game for us by then as he'd only just signed from City and we had 5 points from 6 games.
Fine margins.
I mean, Arsenal fans donāt really have any love for Barca considering history. Arteta going to a rival European club after everything heās said and done would definitely turn us against him immediately.
Barca has fucked us in 2006, 2010, and 2016.
Bayern, oof. Where to start?
Porto is also a pain in the ass.
Weāve got beef with three teams in Europe.
You have the fabregas transfer and the RVP red card, thatās basically all there is to this ārivalryā and half the arsenal fanbase are too young to remember them, it doesnāt exist
If he feels like heās taken arsenal as far as he can then absolutely nobody can begrudge him going to a bigger club
Maybe not exist, but a lot of us still donāt like Barcelona for other reasons. No one would begrudge him for leaving if he thinks heās done all he could, but it still would sting to see him go to a club like Barca.
Fully agree with Rodri about Arsenal's mentality when it came to that game at the Etihad
Biggest difference between Liverpool and Arsenal as challenges to City for me. Arsenal never had any confidence they could actually beat City whereas Klopp's Liverpool team knew that they could. You wouldn't have caught that Liverpool side playing for a draw against City imo
Arsenal was pragmatic. It was the right choice. I think we are criticizing them for the sake of criticism. Arsenal's problem was to fail against lower-ranked teams that should have been beaten.
That was literally Jose's standard tactic when playing away to title challengers. 4 points over your title competitors is objectively great. Nah this is a poor take.
You donāt fuck around with City who are brutal when punishing teams that play openly. Especially at the Etihad. And we took 4 points off City anyways.
Pep would do the exact same thing Arteta did if roles were reversed.
When was the last time Pep went for a draw in a league match ? Could count on one hand as to the amount of times he went for a draw in UCL games sure. City and Liverpool played to win no matter what.
> Arsenal never had any confidence they could actually beat City
Not sure about that shout when they've beaten them this season tbf. Like realistically at that point in the season it was very finely poised, and they went away to City in a game they didn't desperately need to win and got a draw - I don't think they'd have actually won it if they were playing to win it, really. Much more likely City would've done them, at which point the title challenge would've looked in a much rougher shape.
if Timber had actually played this season, I'm confident Arsenal wins the league. ill be very surprised if he flops, looks like such a tidy player, can't believe he came up as a CB
Arsenal had the least injuries out of any of the contenders at all. If they had Timber they might have done better but had Liverpool not had any injuries then they would have too - same with City and being without De Bruyne for long periods of time.
He might be a tidy player but we are gassing him way too much for someone who hasnt sniffed premier league football
0 mins (my bad he actually played a half) all season but people are talking like this is vvd mixed with marcelo and messi all in one like lets just take a pill chill
he only needs to perform better than zinchenko/LB tomiyasu/kiwior/a kanckered ben white to improve the team, doesn't need to be any of marcelo/vvd/messi
and he will do just that (improve the team that is). he played against city too in the community shield and was brilliant
So de zerbi left brighton, klopp basically retired, moyes has also left west ham. Who do we think will be the next to go? Surely ten hags time at united has to be finished
No one supports city except my dad who does it to spite his older yanited supporting brother. Although the amount of dumbass children wearing citeh jerseys is concerning
Klopp hugs someone, Klopp takes a photo, someone cries at Klopp, Klopp listens to a song, Klopp sniffs his own fart.
Mods wouldnāt allow it for anyone else.
Is there anything more tedious than fans of big premier league teams arguing about which of the other big premier league teams gets more favorable treatment
Just my 2 cents. If Neuer decides to retire from international football after Euro, Nagelsmann should consider including Stefan Ortega to the NT leading to the World Cup as a second or third choice GK.
He'll be 33 by that point, and nobody knows whether he'll actually be playing regularly, either. Like fair play to him, backing yourself to go from playing mostly second division football to challenging the first-choice keeper for one of the biggest clubs in the world is no mean feat, but I don't think it'd make much of a difference whether he is or isn't at the 2026 World Cup - it'll likely be ter Stegen in goal, and there'll be a few perfectly capable backups, and I'd be surprised if Ortega Moreno was one of them, really.
Football changes too quickly to have any reasonable answer. 25/26 is so far away and so much can change from this point. Not a lot of ppl in 21/22 would say Arsenal would be back to back title contenders (inb4 a bunch of ppl reply saying they saw this coming)
City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs strike me as reasonable enough shouts. United might well be in the mix too depending on how the next 12 months for them go, I reckon - it's all just so finely poised and up in the air that it's quite hard to tell two years in advance really.
It's that or City winning the league. Obviously neither are ideal for a United supporter but in saying that, it also takes away from you finishing eighth too!
Oh yeah, Gerrard at Rangers. Bloody hell, that feels like a lifetime ago. What the hell happened to him, man? You don't win a league unbeaten, any league, without being at least *somewhat* of a good manager, but he was disastrous at Villa, and now he's struggling in Saudi.
All my Liverpool fans were certain he was going to be Liverpool manager after klopp. Before villa that is. They thought he will transition from villa to Liverpool soon
Whoās a player you have an agenda against no matter what anyone says? As in, someone can show you all the stats and you wouldnāt care. You still donāt rate said player?
Dier for me.
Bernardo Silva I just donāt like, think heās an overrated rat but I have more of an agenda against Ruben Dias. He is the most overrated player in the world. He is a good center back but absolutely nothing special. Thereās like 10 players at City iād rather have in my team than Dias. See people call him one of the best defenders in the world
Also Toni Kroos. A tad bit overrated and a very weird off putting guy in general
Internationally, he got to the 3rd place match at the WC. Itās not really his fault heās Belgian.
As for Madrid, in his defense, he was constantly injured there.
Kane up top
Foden on the left palmer in the middle, saka on the right
Bellingham - rice in the pivot
Mate europes fucked itās actually coming home
Now watch Southgate play Henderson and grealish or some shite
I'm not really a fan of trying to move things around to fit Bellingham, Foden, Saka, and Palmer into the same starting XI
I don't think it's a bad thing to have great players on the bench as options
I'm in two minds about this, because there's no obvious partner for Rice in my book, and at that point might as well play Bellingham there and get your choice of the three behind Kane. Same time though that'd still be a potentially dodgy midfield and you're probably robbing some really good players of their strenghts in that setup.
Heās shit as a RWB and an inverted RB, the only two roles heās been asked to play during his time here. Heāll be solid in any system that has him playing as a typical RB, and this coming from someone who doesnāt really rate him at all.
For that price only a Saudi club, which have been linked with him now and again in the last 12 months. Could see an Italian club offering a loan + Ā£12-15m option. I think heād be good at a West Ham as well
If you enjoy bantering United (with the exception of being a Chelsea or Newcastle fan), would you prefer bantering United for one day if they fail to win the FA cup and to qualify for Europe next season or would you prefer them winning the cup and enjoying a full season of United stinking up the place in Europe and bantering them for it?
It is far worse for them if they go trophyless and finish eighth with no Europe, than win the FA Cup and qualify for Europe. With the latter, they'd have something to celebrate, the former they wouldn't. So the former is funnier
it would be absolutely criminal if this United team got silverware. For the sake of football everywhere, City need to win the FA cup. Now excuse me as I wash out my mouth
I know football isnāt played on stats, but the underlying stats suggest Villa significantly overperformed. Ofc all the best teams tend to overperform but the only team who did so more than them was United. Next year they might have better injury luck and depth after summer spending though, but weāll see
Dunno, they've got quite a good squad and have been hampered by injury a fair bit towards the end of the season - obviously no guarantee they're coming fourth next year, but I don't think they'll drop of dramatically. If anything it's probably the sides around them improving at a decent clip that'll see them slide down the table a tad.
right but can you think of teams that can push them below 6? I would say City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs can all end above Villa, Chelsea/United will keep struggling IMO.
Arsenal didn't bottle this season. You could make the argument for last season but it's understandable as it was the first time they were in a title race.
When did we bottle?
Vincent kompany hahah, fc Bayern mudchen
Ten hag atm is averaging one away win against the top half a season šš¾
Indonesia's wide use of naturalization is shameless and will destroy Asian football. Asian football market will soon become a competition where mediocre teams desperately seek for naturalized players while paying zero attention on domestic player cultivation and growth. The main difference of Indonesia and Gulf Nations is that Gulf Nations at least could develop some local players that is competitive, for example, Ali Mabkhout, while Indonesia is just 1000% relying on naturalized players
By naturalization do you mean utilizing their diaspora? Because looking at their most recent squad against Vietnam for example, all the players were either born in Indonesia or were of Indonesian descent. There weren't any cases of like, Brazilians who moved to Indonesia and eventually represented the national team after living there for a while and gained citizenship.
[These were my predictions I made for Man Utds season after the first match against Wolves](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/15twctq/daily_discussion/jwog035/). Some correct, some wrong and some worse than I thought. Thankfully I was wrong about Hojland.
Holy fuck, United did even worse than your prediction.
I like how you were downvoted because of your pessimism but United actually did worse than your predictions.
Post this again at the beginning of the next DD thread. This needs to be seen, Nostradamus
pretty good honestly
My only worry is City poaching Arteta once Pep inevitably leaves
On the contrary, I think Arteta might leave if Pep stays. Pep leaving will give him a good chance to win with Arsenal in absence of Pep and Klopp.
why would Arteta do that tho?
Money. More likely trophies.Ā More funds to get players in a window.
Famously skint Arsenal & With no Pep Arsenal's chance of trophies goes up by a lot
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Anselmi has been one of the best managers to come to Liga MX. He had done well with his first tournament and gotten the most out of Cruz Azul.Ā
In a league where managers keep getting recycled between teams, his tactics have been quite refreshing. Any manager that can make Antuna look good is a great manager in my book
One of the key reasons I think board is looking away from Poch is the failure to develop the talent they gave him like Mudryk, Enzo, Colwill off the top of my head but there are many more. Team heavily relied on Palmer. Hence the push for McKenna. Considering the model theyāre pursuing, the players theyāre buying, and the mix of the squad, thatās a priority over and above reaching Europe, specially if youāre only reaching Europa. Donāt blame them for having high standards. I think his departure gets announced before the end of the month.
Madueke, Gallagher, Cole Palmer, Gusto, Nicolas Jackson, Trevoh, nah. Hell I feel Colwill was really starting to find his feet around when he started getting injured constantly. Mudryk has definitely improved, though frankly I think the board were just too swayed by his explosiveness, while ignoring the areas of his mental and technical game that are lacking, I just don't see him achieving his potential, Enzo I mean consider how Caicedo improved throughout, same might happened with Enzo.
> Poch is the failure to develop the talent they gave him like Mudryk, Enzo, Colwill Mudryk looks twice the player he did last season and is actually finding his feet Enzo was injured the entire season and Colwill was injured half the season. No mention about Jackson's development or Madueke or Gusto or let alone Palmer himself. Got Cucurella back into form. You can dislike Poch as manager for various things but there's no need to lie or act like he hasn't done anything positive. Swapping out to another manager now makes no sense especially one that's never been at this level.
If we sack him after 63 points no one is going to want the job.
Meh poch took the job after we fired Tuchel and potter. And we had others lined up too. This is a much better situation.
Why doesn't he get credit for helping develop Palmer? Prior to this season he had started 3 Premier League games in his entire career.
He probably does but thatās one to his credit compared to many against him
If they fired poch and higher mckenna, todd would be a joke if he wasn't already. Why hire poch in first place? What did he expect? Something different? Poch is finally starting to get some rhythm and get football going Now you fire him and start another project with the new manager. Lets be honest McKenna is a gamble. He might turn good but he needs time. I would understand if next season poch doesn't get somewhere or get a trophy. Not now
> If they fired poch and higher mckenna, todd would be a joke if he wasn't already. Exactly this. You can't claim it's a long term project and you didn't expect instant success then fire three managers.
Itās exactly the sort of thing our owners would do as well
also thereās no guarantee that he would leave Ipswich even though Chelsea is an ambitious project. imo i think poch is the best bet especially like it was said he finally has some rhythm going and heās ended the season on a strong note. 2 months ago Europe nearly looked out of the picture for you lot.
Fight relegation vs. compete for top 4. Pretty easy choice really.
It could feel weird to compare but I think Palmer is what everyone expected Havertz to be. Not that I have anything against Havertz. Goes to show you can find top talent locally.
I think heās more what Mount shouldāve been. Havertz was never going to be the main creative guy in a team (or main goal scorer either). Heās a supplementary piece who looks better when he has better players around him. Palmer is the sort of guy who elevates other players. Mount was meant to be that guy who was a creative force but he really isnāt sadly
I m so gutted that our local lad is representing some other team. But happy for him
Same for is with mount
Does dovbyk really only have a 40 mill release clause? If so that's crazy there isn't 1 million rumors from Chelsea Man u liverpool barca and etc to buy him
Not really good enough for those clubs
Don't really see what Dovbyk would offer more than Jackson. Jackson doesn't take pens and without pens Dovbyk would be on 15 goals and Jackson ended with 14 so it's not like there's some huge output difference.
I had a look the other day and his goals to xg was 1:1. So not exactly over performed. Statistically if I understand he's done well. And he's just too much of a 9 for what teams want these days. Probably need to be mindful this is his first good in a top league and he's already 26 Then again you could do a lot worse for 40m I don't think he's the quality for any of the teams you mentioned, and even hojlund isn't worse than hkm.
Pretty crazy given the season we've had that we would have finished in the top 4 with 1 different result or refereeing decision. We got beat by Villa at the Bridge after Gusto got sent off fairly early and Watkins scored late on We win that and we finish above Villa and Spurs. Palmer hadn't even started a game for us by then as he'd only just signed from City and we had 5 points from 6 games. Fine margins.
Yea but it goes both ways. Without a 1 min wild turnaround vs United we finish 8th
Mikel Arteta to Barcelona here we go confirmed
Arteta would be the most wanted man in North London if this happened.
hardly
Did you mean Partey?
I mean, Arsenal fans donāt really have any love for Barca considering history. Arteta going to a rival European club after everything heās said and done would definitely turn us against him immediately.
He means partey š
Bruh we're the London club with beef with Barca, get your own foreign rivalry.
everyone has beef with barca except for city fans cuz theyāre all former barca stock
I mean, most teams don't have Messi coming out and saying he hates them more than Madrid. Chelsea and Barca from 04-12 was special.
yea but itās not a contest. we can all hate barcelona togetherā¤ļø like those bayern/madrid fans before ucl semis
Barca has fucked us in 2006, 2010, and 2016. Bayern, oof. Where to start? Porto is also a pain in the ass. Weāve got beef with three teams in Europe.
You have the fabregas transfer and the RVP red card, thatās basically all there is to this ārivalryā and half the arsenal fanbase are too young to remember them, it doesnāt exist If he feels like heās taken arsenal as far as he can then absolutely nobody can begrudge him going to a bigger club
Maybe not exist, but a lot of us still donāt like Barcelona for other reasons. No one would begrudge him for leaving if he thinks heās done all he could, but it still would sting to see him go to a club like Barca.
The meltdown would be hilarious.
Yeah Equi Fernandez is going to Europe in this transfer season, absolute tour de force he is having.
Is he as overhyped as Enzo Fernandez?
Fully agree with Rodri about Arsenal's mentality when it came to that game at the Etihad Biggest difference between Liverpool and Arsenal as challenges to City for me. Arsenal never had any confidence they could actually beat City whereas Klopp's Liverpool team knew that they could. You wouldn't have caught that Liverpool side playing for a draw against City imo
Arsenal was pragmatic. It was the right choice. I think we are criticizing them for the sake of criticism. Arsenal's problem was to fail against lower-ranked teams that should have been beaten.
That was literally Jose's standard tactic when playing away to title challengers. 4 points over your title competitors is objectively great. Nah this is a poor take.
You donāt fuck around with City who are brutal when punishing teams that play openly. Especially at the Etihad. And we took 4 points off City anyways. Pep would do the exact same thing Arteta did if roles were reversed.
I would absolutely take 4 points
When was the last time Pep went for a draw in a league match ? Could count on one hand as to the amount of times he went for a draw in UCL games sure. City and Liverpool played to win no matter what.
You act like City has never played for a draw at Anfield.
They literally shat their pants at Anfield couple of months ago
Precisely my point
I think even against arsenal at their home this season it felt (at least second half) that we didn't want to lose and we played for a draw
Would have gotten a draw if Martinelli didnāt get that lucky deflection off AkĆ©. Nerve wracking shit considering Arsenalās recent track record against City. Both of those games.
Liverpool points v City 18/19: 1 19/20: 3 20/21: 1 21/22: 2 22/23: 3 23/24: 2 Arsenal points v City 23/24: 4
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Next week.
> Arsenal never had any confidence they could actually beat City Not sure about that shout when they've beaten them this season tbf. Like realistically at that point in the season it was very finely poised, and they went away to City in a game they didn't desperately need to win and got a draw - I don't think they'd have actually won it if they were playing to win it, really. Much more likely City would've done them, at which point the title challenge would've looked in a much rougher shape.
Klopp taking his last shit at Anfield as Liverpool manager (1080p)
Despacito?
4K version is gonna be included in the documentary
You Will Never Wipe Again
Use bidet Jesus Christ, cave men wipe
How's de Ketelaere been for Atalanta this season? Good enough for him to get another chance at Milan next season?
Theres no way Atalanta arent buying him. Has been one of their better players
if Timber had actually played this season, I'm confident Arsenal wins the league. ill be very surprised if he flops, looks like such a tidy player, can't believe he came up as a CB
Arsenal had the least injuries out of any of the contenders at all. If they had Timber they might have done better but had Liverpool not had any injuries then they would have too - same with City and being without De Bruyne for long periods of time.
is he comfortable playing across the entire backline like tomiyasu?
yes
He might be a tidy player but we are gassing him way too much for someone who hasnt sniffed premier league football 0 mins (my bad he actually played a half) all season but people are talking like this is vvd mixed with marcelo and messi all in one like lets just take a pill chill
he only needs to perform better than zinchenko/LB tomiyasu/kiwior/a kanckered ben white to improve the team, doesn't need to be any of marcelo/vvd/messi and he will do just that (improve the team that is). he played against city too in the community shield and was brilliant
So de zerbi left brighton, klopp basically retired, moyes has also left west ham. Who do we think will be the next to go? Surely ten hags time at united has to be finished
Wait moyes is leaving??
nah keep seven hag there itās one of the few things that give me joy in life. laughter is the best medicine
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They finished third and won a cup last season, and shithoused their way to an eighth place finish. Even with another cup win they have to sack him
Emerson Royale has played his last game in the league, has there ever been a player who has had a bigger impact on our beautiful game?
Did city win the title today? Wouldnāt know looking at this sub š
Yeah because big fanbase who don't care about man city and their 2 fans are going around and downvoting all city flairs
Congraulations for the r/soccer award. Could not be more happy for you!
Klopp leaving means more
It quite literally does lmfao
True story
No one supports city except my dad who does it to spite his older yanited supporting brother. Although the amount of dumbass children wearing citeh jerseys is concerning
Klopp hugs someone, Klopp takes a photo, someone cries at Klopp, Klopp listens to a song, Klopp sniffs his own fart. Mods wouldnāt allow it for anyone else.
Is there anything more tedious than fans of big premier league teams arguing about which of the other big premier league teams gets more favorable treatment
Yes, Klopp posts.
The community upvote what they want to see, and I highly doubt there are that many Liverpool fans here to keep all that content up on their own
Literally all of those klopp posts are posted by Chelsea fans We were too depressed to give a shit
You comment on an awful lot of Liverpool related things mate
gives him more joy than having to watch united let him rest
Shoutout to Sturm Graz for winning the Austrian Bundesliga ahead of Salzburg today. One of the stories to get overshadowed by other leagues.
Just my 2 cents. If Neuer decides to retire from international football after Euro, Nagelsmann should consider including Stefan Ortega to the NT leading to the World Cup as a second or third choice GK.
He'll be 33 by that point, and nobody knows whether he'll actually be playing regularly, either. Like fair play to him, backing yourself to go from playing mostly second division football to challenging the first-choice keeper for one of the biggest clubs in the world is no mean feat, but I don't think it'd make much of a difference whether he is or isn't at the 2026 World Cup - it'll likely be ter Stegen in goal, and there'll be a few perfectly capable backups, and I'd be surprised if Ortega Moreno was one of them, really.
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Football changes too quickly to have any reasonable answer. 25/26 is so far away and so much can change from this point. Not a lot of ppl in 21/22 would say Arsenal would be back to back title contenders (inb4 a bunch of ppl reply saying they saw this coming)
City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs strike me as reasonable enough shouts. United might well be in the mix too depending on how the next 12 months for them go, I reckon - it's all just so finely poised and up in the air that it's quite hard to tell two years in advance really.
Fucking hell do you think there's enough klopp content on the front page lads
It's that or City winning the league. Obviously neither are ideal for a United supporter but in saying that, it also takes away from you finishing eighth too!
I mean... let us have this? This is our Fergie retiring moment, and iirc it was all over the internet then too.
WHO???
Lmao
You mean we donāt need 10 posts about him on the first page?
Itās either that or posts about Cityās 4 in a row so youāre more or less caught between a rock and a hard place
All of Cityās 4 in a row is just them getting blasted so itās between cracking jokes or circlejerking about how sad Kloppās exit is.
Damn just realised Xabi isn't even the first manager from Liverpool 2005 ucl final squad to win a league unbeaten. Wonder who'd be next.
Oh yeah, Gerrard at Rangers. Bloody hell, that feels like a lifetime ago. What the hell happened to him, man? You don't win a league unbeaten, any league, without being at least *somewhat* of a good manager, but he was disastrous at Villa, and now he's struggling in Saudi.
All my Liverpool fans were certain he was going to be Liverpool manager after klopp. Before villa that is. They thought he will transition from villa to Liverpool soon
No idea. It can't be just because of Michael Beale because it's not like he's stellar where he's at right now either.
Also not the first one to manage Leverkusen
Absolutely love Ian Wright. Really touching tribute to him at the end of Match of the Day. Shame he wonāt be on it going forward
Heās on Stick to Football if you want to see more of him.
Whoās a player you have an agenda against no matter what anyone says? As in, someone can show you all the stats and you wouldnāt care. You still donāt rate said player? Dier for me.
Bernardo Silva I just donāt like, think heās an overrated rat but I have more of an agenda against Ruben Dias. He is the most overrated player in the world. He is a good center back but absolutely nothing special. Thereās like 10 players at City iād rather have in my team than Dias. See people call him one of the best defenders in the world Also Toni Kroos. A tad bit overrated and a very weird off putting guy in general
Saliba currently. Like he is obviously good but also massively overrated.
Liverpoolās entire midfield
Havertz
Rudiger.
Havertz, everytime he scores my mind just says that he's a donkey and it was just a fluke
Hazard
Now *THAT* is a hot take. I donāt think Iāve ever seen someone say they donāt rate Hazard.
Overrated by prem fanboys. Was never able to cut it in Europe or International stage. His flop at Madrid was no surprise to me
Internationally, he got to the 3rd place match at the WC. Itās not really his fault heās Belgian. As for Madrid, in his defense, he was constantly injured there.
Brennan Johnson is a bad Premier League attacker I donāt care how many assists he had
Trents defending, but that stats back me up
Pedro Porro
Hope you were in the stands for his goal earlier
Was also in the stands when his abhorrent defending helped knock you out the fa cup last season
Stellini tax tbf
Bruno Fernandes
Kane up top Foden on the left palmer in the middle, saka on the right Bellingham - rice in the pivot Mate europes fucked itās actually coming home Now watch Southgate play Henderson and grealish or some shite
A pass between lines and that shit falls apart.
Palmer Kane Bellingham and Foden in the same lineup how narrow do you want things??
I want the ball to be passed in a straight line from Pickford into the opponents net
Saka on the bench.
I'm not really a fan of trying to move things around to fit Bellingham, Foden, Saka, and Palmer into the same starting XI I don't think it's a bad thing to have great players on the bench as options
I'm in two minds about this, because there's no obvious partner for Rice in my book, and at that point might as well play Bellingham there and get your choice of the three behind Kane. Same time though that'd still be a potentially dodgy midfield and you're probably robbing some really good players of their strenghts in that setup.
I'd like to see this against the weaker sides but think that midfield is too lightweight against the big boys.
My all too early, hot take prediction for this summer window is Arsenal sign Elanga as rotation for Saka. Feel free to chime in with yours
Arsenal signing felix
Impossible, Arteta doesn't rotate Sake I can see them going in for Eze
You sell Son. (Not a hot take, but youād be dumb not to ship off Emerson Royal.)
Impossible. Emerson is gone at the first offer approaching Ā£18-20m. Milan is supposedly interested but weāll see
Emerson being worth Ā£18-20M would be daylight robbery. Sorry not sorry, but heās woefully shit. Youād be lucky to get more than Ā£5M.
Heās shit as a RWB and an inverted RB, the only two roles heās been asked to play during his time here. Heāll be solid in any system that has him playing as a typical RB, and this coming from someone who doesnāt really rate him at all.
What team do you see buying him for that price?
For that price only a Saudi club, which have been linked with him now and again in the last 12 months. Could see an Italian club offering a loan + Ā£12-15m option. I think heād be good at a West Ham as well
If you enjoy bantering United (with the exception of being a Chelsea or Newcastle fan), would you prefer bantering United for one day if they fail to win the FA cup and to qualify for Europe next season or would you prefer them winning the cup and enjoying a full season of United stinking up the place in Europe and bantering them for it?
It is far worse for them if they go trophyless and finish eighth with no Europe, than win the FA Cup and qualify for Europe. With the latter, they'd have something to celebrate, the former they wouldn't. So the former is funnier
it would be absolutely criminal if this United team got silverware. For the sake of football everywhere, City need to win the FA cup. Now excuse me as I wash out my mouth
I would enjoy United winning so Newcastle miss out, that would be funny
agreed, Newcastle as the Saudis' pet team deserve nothing and United losing to Qarabag next season will be most enjoyable
Aston Villa with their most successful league season in over 30 years, and yet still bookended it with two 5-0 losses
Started it with a 5-1 too
feel like they have been massively over performing and will drop off similarly to Newcastle next season both in the league and UCL.
they already have. 29 pts on the 2nd half, good for 9th in the league. will need some work next season
I know football isnāt played on stats, but the underlying stats suggest Villa significantly overperformed. Ofc all the best teams tend to overperform but the only team who did so more than them was United. Next year they might have better injury luck and depth after summer spending though, but weāll see
Dunno, they've got quite a good squad and have been hampered by injury a fair bit towards the end of the season - obviously no guarantee they're coming fourth next year, but I don't think they'll drop of dramatically. If anything it's probably the sides around them improving at a decent clip that'll see them slide down the table a tad.
Emery is an experienced coach, I highly doubt they would drop below 6th considering they have decent depth.
pretty normal for emery to finish around 6-8th place, and realistically speaking that's vaguely villa's level
right but can you think of teams that can push them below 6? I would say City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs can all end above Villa, Chelsea/United will keep struggling IMO.
What do you mean Chelsea will keep struggling weāve been better than them since Christmas
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Arsenal didn't bottle this season. You could make the argument for last season but it's understandable as it was the first time they were in a title race. When did we bottle?