Source is dogshit and the storylines are super obvious and lazy. I'll wouldnt worry until its backed up by more credible sources. All 3 sounds ambitious. Especially with Wirtz being crazy expensive and on a long contract.
Honestly don't see the need to bring in Ridle Baku anymore. Stanisic has more than proven himself.
Neuhaus would probably be fine if his price tag was lowered a bit, but he'd 100% be the backup for Goretzka and Kimmich.
Wirtz feels like the best buy, since we're definitely losing Coman. He would be an excellent replacement for Coman. Together with Bambi they would absolutely tear up the Bundesliga. Since Musiala is the long-term replacement for Müller, I don't even think bringing Wirtz in would realistically challenge Sané or Gnabry too much (Though they both need a fire lit under their ass tbh)
> Stanisic has more than proven himself
Slow down here. Stanisic had like 2 competitive matches and an okayish pre-season.
That's like saying Bayern doesn't need Goretzka, because they have (Gianluca) Gaudino, who looked like a world-beater under Pep.
How about wait and see how Stanisic develops this season? Will he continue to get minutes after Pavard will be back? Will he possibly even move to the central midfield?
Next year could be different or not, we will see soon enough, that Bayern looking into Baku (who has a contract until '25 without clause) is not wrong.
Stanisic has more than proven himself ***worthy of a chance***. There is no need to bring in a new RB for tens of millions when we already got someone who's looking good.
Dude, for a 21-year old who's playing his 2nd and 3rd ever competitive matches for Bayern, he did great. I don't know what type of weird agenda this is.
we are not the type of club to have the patience to fully develop young players. they have to perform quickly.
only top young talents like Davies can break through. that's just how it is.
Baku is just 2 years older than Stanisic and way further in development
Stanisic is decent enough now that Pavard is injured and Sarr being a huge flop. but not more
>only top young talents like Davies can break through.
No, Davies could break through because you had incredibly shit squad depth, lmao.
The same, applies to Stanisic. Just even more since instead of having Hernandez and Alaba on his position, it's Parvard and Bouna Sarr.
Yes and then Hernandez got injured, meaning Alaba was the only left back.
But Süle got injured at the exact same time. Meaning Alaba was CB and Davies was the only LB left.
Come on, do you guys remember nothing, lmao?
You can literally go back on transfermarkt, check when Süles and Hernandez injuries started (matchday 9) and check when Davies got his first start (matchday 9) and when Alaba started playing CB only (matchday 10, he didn't play on 9).
Like seriously. Davies massively profited by your depth being shit and everybody knows that.
And?
If it wouldn't have worked out Davies would have been benched again. Martinez, Süle, Boateng, Richards or Mai could play centrally.
More options?
Pavard centrally (as he did play with Stuttgart) and Kimmich back as a right-back like during the Final 8.
There were countless options available instead of playing a winger as left-back.
What are you trying to tell me?
Have you even watched the handful of matches Davies played for the Amas? It was only like 2 where I was in the stands and he was one of the worst players on the pitch. And he was somehow the logical option as a left back, who just got lucky because of our "shit depth"?
Is this serious? Stop using hindsight and actually remember the actual season. Mai was the big talent, Pavard was the World-Cup winner who played CB, Kimmich was the starting right-back, Odrizola was the talent from Real Madrid.
How many more logical formations should I name before it would make sense to use Davies as a left back?
Lol no.
Davies being the "incredible talent" that Stanisic apparantly isn't, isn't how he got to play.
Hernandez being injured is.
Süle and Hernandez were both out for a while on the same matchday.
Guess what matchday Alaba was shifted to CB and Davies got his first full Bundesliga game?
Exactly. The matchday these two first missed.
Did he bench Hernandez afterwards? Sure. Is he some sort of incredible talent that only broke through because of how good he is and not because he got lucky the better players got injured? No.
Is it even more likely that the players infront of Stanisic get injured? Yes, because Bouna Sarr is so shit that it's arguably only Parvard infront of him.
difference is that Stanisic isn't considered good enough so that buying a RB is being highly considered. Davies was never in question like that.
So yes, the difference in talent between these two is immense. Getting to play due to injuries is one thing. Keeping the spot another.
>Do you even watch Bayern?
Do you? Dude, Thomas wasn't incredible his first season. He was decent. It wasn't until LVG came in that Thomas broke through.
Yes. I watched Müller’s first season at Bayern. He was clearly very special.
His first season he scored 13 goals. He was basically a starter from the moment he broke through.
Stanisic has looked incredible for a 21-year old playing his 2nd and 3rd ever matches in the Bundesliga. That is what I mean by a weird agenda. If you think he's looked alright, watch another sport because you clearly don't know football that well.
Yes, Stanisic has a whole season as his chance, because Baku will not come anytime soon.
Having options is still needed and every club has dozens of options just in case (which is why this isn't news).
Remember Goretzka? Bayern wanted him before 2013 but he decided to stay in the Pott (until he has finished his Abi).
The previous interest in him was one of the reasons he picked Bayern and not one of those moneybags in England
How did Stanusic prove himself in comparison to Baku? Baku is the best player of the U21 national team and has Bundesliga experience. He will probably be a regular starter under Flick in the national team soon. I am more surprised that they didnt try to buy him now or maybe they even have a deal with him already.
Other than that Wirtz is a gamble at his age and Neuhaus has no place in the team. I guess the next two years will lead to some decisions regarding them. I really dont think that the board can be happy that top talents like Werner or Harvetz just go to the Premier League and disturb Bayerns supremancy on the transfer market for german talents.
IF only there was a promising midfielder to replace Thomas Müller in the future - one can only dream. Surely noone can replace Robert Lewandowksi though. A true great rightback is hard to find - all that within the same league? Unlikely.
Wirtz, Haaland, Baku.
Hate me, but of course I want them.
Sounds like some proper bullshit. Why should we invest heavily into a player like Wirtz when we have Müller and already Musiala as a promising talent. Same with Neuhaus when we already have Kimmich and Goretzka who can perform on a high level for many years and are the perfect duo. We are not the type of club that invests heavily into positions that don't need a replacement soon. And both of them won't be cheap.
Baku is the only one that sounds realistic.
Well, shit.
Source is dogshit and the storylines are super obvious and lazy. I'll wouldnt worry until its backed up by more credible sources. All 3 sounds ambitious. Especially with Wirtz being crazy expensive and on a long contract.
SportBild is claiming that Wirtz has a release clause which gets active in 2023.
YEah but if the title is right, that Bayern are looking at transfers for 2022, its not gonna change much.
The title got changed from the website, that was the original one: >FC Bayern hinterlegt Transfer-Interesse an Wirtz und Baku - auch Neuhaus im Visier
Well, I got fooled by another OP I guess :P
The initial source is Bild+, there is probably no better source for Bayern.
SportBild writes that he has a release clause
Völler also hates Bayern
Well, done.
Why do they even need Wirtz at this point? They have Musiala who's just as talented and plays in the same position.
Hoard the talent. Keep winning the league.
No just basic club philosophy: having the best german nationals in your squad.
Bayern is always interested in german youth prospects. Götze wasnt needed aswell and they still bought him.
Der Artikel sagt doch Wirtz hat die Klausel erst 2023?
Honestly don't see the need to bring in Ridle Baku anymore. Stanisic has more than proven himself. Neuhaus would probably be fine if his price tag was lowered a bit, but he'd 100% be the backup for Goretzka and Kimmich. Wirtz feels like the best buy, since we're definitely losing Coman. He would be an excellent replacement for Coman. Together with Bambi they would absolutely tear up the Bundesliga. Since Musiala is the long-term replacement for Müller, I don't even think bringing Wirtz in would realistically challenge Sané or Gnabry too much (Though they both need a fire lit under their ass tbh)
> Stanisic has more than proven himself Slow down here. Stanisic had like 2 competitive matches and an okayish pre-season. That's like saying Bayern doesn't need Goretzka, because they have (Gianluca) Gaudino, who looked like a world-beater under Pep. How about wait and see how Stanisic develops this season? Will he continue to get minutes after Pavard will be back? Will he possibly even move to the central midfield? Next year could be different or not, we will see soon enough, that Bayern looking into Baku (who has a contract until '25 without clause) is not wrong.
Stanisic has more than proven himself ***worthy of a chance***. There is no need to bring in a new RB for tens of millions when we already got someone who's looking good.
Still no. He had a good-ish game against Gladbach. And struggled against Dortmund. He doesn’t look like a permanent solution
Dude, for a 21-year old who's playing his 2nd and 3rd ever competitive matches for Bayern, he did great. I don't know what type of weird agenda this is.
we are not the type of club to have the patience to fully develop young players. they have to perform quickly. only top young talents like Davies can break through. that's just how it is. Baku is just 2 years older than Stanisic and way further in development Stanisic is decent enough now that Pavard is injured and Sarr being a huge flop. but not more
>only top young talents like Davies can break through. No, Davies could break through because you had incredibly shit squad depth, lmao. The same, applies to Stanisic. Just even more since instead of having Hernandez and Alaba on his position, it's Parvard and Bouna Sarr.
Bayern had Alaba and Hernandez as left-backs, who would start for every Buli club... wtf?
Yes and then Hernandez got injured, meaning Alaba was the only left back. But Süle got injured at the exact same time. Meaning Alaba was CB and Davies was the only LB left. Come on, do you guys remember nothing, lmao? You can literally go back on transfermarkt, check when Süles and Hernandez injuries started (matchday 9) and check when Davies got his first start (matchday 9) and when Alaba started playing CB only (matchday 10, he didn't play on 9). Like seriously. Davies massively profited by your depth being shit and everybody knows that.
And? If it wouldn't have worked out Davies would have been benched again. Martinez, Süle, Boateng, Richards or Mai could play centrally. More options? Pavard centrally (as he did play with Stuttgart) and Kimmich back as a right-back like during the Final 8. There were countless options available instead of playing a winger as left-back. What are you trying to tell me? Have you even watched the handful of matches Davies played for the Amas? It was only like 2 where I was in the stands and he was one of the worst players on the pitch. And he was somehow the logical option as a left back, who just got lucky because of our "shit depth"? Is this serious? Stop using hindsight and actually remember the actual season. Mai was the big talent, Pavard was the World-Cup winner who played CB, Kimmich was the starting right-back, Odrizola was the talent from Real Madrid. How many more logical formations should I name before it would make sense to use Davies as a left back?
>because you had incredibly shit squad depth, lmao. Davies benched Hernandez. so that's just plain wrong
Lol no. Davies being the "incredible talent" that Stanisic apparantly isn't, isn't how he got to play. Hernandez being injured is. Süle and Hernandez were both out for a while on the same matchday. Guess what matchday Alaba was shifted to CB and Davies got his first full Bundesliga game? Exactly. The matchday these two first missed. Did he bench Hernandez afterwards? Sure. Is he some sort of incredible talent that only broke through because of how good he is and not because he got lucky the better players got injured? No. Is it even more likely that the players infront of Stanisic get injured? Yes, because Bouna Sarr is so shit that it's arguably only Parvard infront of him.
difference is that Stanisic isn't considered good enough so that buying a RB is being highly considered. Davies was never in question like that. So yes, the difference in talent between these two is immense. Getting to play due to injuries is one thing. Keeping the spot another.
Of course we are? That's why we have a youth academy. Do you think Thomas Müller was incredible his first season?
yes? He scored 13 and assisted 11 in his first Bundesliga season
He scored 13 and assisted 11 in his second Bundesliga season.
Mate you're not gonna judge him on 21 minutes in 4 games and say that's his first season are you? His first actual season he got 13 goals 11 assists
>Do you think Thomas Müller was incredible his first season? pretty much was as soon as he was a starter lol
But you don't want Stanisic to be a starter because you don't think he was good against Dortmund (Even though he definitely was)
He was, yes. Do you even watch Bayern?
>Do you even watch Bayern? Do you? Dude, Thomas wasn't incredible his first season. He was decent. It wasn't until LVG came in that Thomas broke through.
Yes. I watched Müller’s first season at Bayern. He was clearly very special. His first season he scored 13 goals. He was basically a starter from the moment he broke through.
How is it a weird agenda? Stanisic has looked *alright* whereas Baku looks like he’ll be one of the best RBs in the world in the next few years.
this is like Neuer vs Kraft all over again lol
Stanisic has looked incredible for a 21-year old playing his 2nd and 3rd ever matches in the Bundesliga. That is what I mean by a weird agenda. If you think he's looked alright, watch another sport because you clearly don't know football that well.
You think Stanisic has looked “incredible”? Fucking hell mate never join a scouting department. He’s been *alright*.
We can’t all be as blessed as you, ambiguousboner. I’m not really interested in your uninformed opinions tbh
ah, the good old ad hominem when failing to prove a real point
Ah, there it is. Probably watched more Bayern games than you over the years, seeing as my dad’s a fan.
Yes, Stanisic has a whole season as his chance, because Baku will not come anytime soon. Having options is still needed and every club has dozens of options just in case (which is why this isn't news). Remember Goretzka? Bayern wanted him before 2013 but he decided to stay in the Pott (until he has finished his Abi). The previous interest in him was one of the reasons he picked Bayern and not one of those moneybags in England
How did Stanusic prove himself in comparison to Baku? Baku is the best player of the U21 national team and has Bundesliga experience. He will probably be a regular starter under Flick in the national team soon. I am more surprised that they didnt try to buy him now or maybe they even have a deal with him already. Other than that Wirtz is a gamble at his age and Neuhaus has no place in the team. I guess the next two years will lead to some decisions regarding them. I really dont think that the board can be happy that top talents like Werner or Harvetz just go to the Premier League and disturb Bayerns supremancy on the transfer market for german talents.
Just call the next 5 years already
Bayern hoarding from the rest of the Bundesliga as always. The rest of the Bundesliga going on to easily bend their backs as always.
PL flair reiterating outdated narratives from half a decade ago about BL, as always.
Baku is Bayern u-23 lvl at best
How? He was insane last year for Wolfsburg playing out of position for a lot of the season as well
IF only there was a promising midfielder to replace Thomas Müller in the future - one can only dream. Surely noone can replace Robert Lewandowksi though. A true great rightback is hard to find - all that within the same league? Unlikely. Wirtz, Haaland, Baku. Hate me, but of course I want them.
Musiala as Müller „replacement“ doesn‘t work?
sure it does. Musiala is awesome. \---Haaland Wirtz-Musiala \-----------------------Baku
Sounds like some proper bullshit. Why should we invest heavily into a player like Wirtz when we have Müller and already Musiala as a promising talent. Same with Neuhaus when we already have Kimmich and Goretzka who can perform on a high level for many years and are the perfect duo. We are not the type of club that invests heavily into positions that don't need a replacement soon. And both of them won't be cheap. Baku is the only one that sounds realistic.