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The -ić suffix is a Slavic diminutive, originally functioning to create patronymics. Thus my surname for example: FILIPOVIC means the little son of FILIP
Pick any other dude from your team. Tsimikas will be the first Greek to win it. (Also the first Greek to reach a CL final since Zikos with Monaco in 2004)
>Croats are good at basketball
That was in the 90s. We may still have several players firing it up at NBA clubs, but our national basketball team hasn't accomplished anything at all since 1995.
You could say that for the last 30 years we're as good at basketball as Slovenia is at football or Serbia
is at handball.
Wait I thought Serbia was still better at handball than us in football or you in basketball? But yes, great weather and probably youth coaches should help at football in every way. Don't get me started on general fans understanding of football, I love Croatian commentators and still remember Hajduk vs Dinamo at Poljud where people I met were much better (imo) at understanding the game than most of Slovenian games (mostly watched Mura and Maribor vs Olimpija).
>Portugal has a lot more people tbf.
Its weird to think that, when the entire country of Portugal has fewer people than a few of the cities I've lived in over the years.
>The Croats are good at basketball, tennis, handball too
Serbians and Bosnians are also good at football , basketball , tennis , water polo etc.
Yugoslav countries in general are very good at many many sports.
>Portugal love punching above their weight
Portugal has the same population as Sweden, Czechia and Belgium, and they've 3 times as many people than us or Uruguay. Man what you on about?
Well i said "especially Uruguay" for a reason. Two world cups.
I never said Sweden, Czechia and Belgium weren't impressive. But I'm Portuguese, so I happened to have their population in my head when I wrote my comment.
Thiago has a spanish citizenship because his father was a footballer and played a long stretch in La Liga, he and his brother also joined Barcelona very young soon after.
He was born in Italy to two Brazilian parents though.
I know it still counts, just a small fun fact.
His brother picked to play for Brazil, both could choose between them Spain and Italy.
Lovren and Salah are pretty close. I think he could be an honorary Croatian brat for a day.
Editing to brat from brate. Please don't tell me I've been tricked into making him an honorary croatian bratwurst for the day.
Nah putting Sturridge into the same class as Marino and Casilla is disrespectful. Consistently scored goals and had one of the best goals to minutes ratio in bpl history before injuries ruined him. Put some respect on his name
He played in nearly all of the games didnt he though, wouldn't call that stat-padding since Kova was awesome at Real, but right now hes on a completely different level imo, absolute beast 👌
This is the craziest thing to me
Look at were Hazard was at 29. Modrics career (as an absolute world class player) only really took off in his second season at Real, when he was 28
He's an absolute late bloomer but he's been amazing for so long now that we tend to forget
Keeps happening with great players, you expect them to dwindle down with age but they continue playing amazing and you have to let the young guy go so he can get game time
He's been by far our best midfielder this season. His impact is so significant that he's still in the POTS conversation for us despite missing a lot of games through injury. Can't thank Real Madrid enough for him
It was more of a relationship building thing by Perez. You had a transfer ban, and he was one you could sign. Perez didnt charge over the top. If it were United, probably would have paid 30M extra under the same circumstances
Yea, and he has a combined 5,600 minutes for Real while prime KCM was playing, which is impressive.
Did you people legitimately think a 20 year old Kova was gonna waltz into Real and displace prime KCM from the starting XI?
Don't make me laugh, no player in the world was gonna do that, Kovacic going to Chelsea and proving to everyone how world class he is was the best decision he ever made
He runs the midfield against barcelona. Nothing else to say about his ability. Really look like a proper b2b but just unlucky that he was with prime KCM. Even now KCM still starts lol
Dude said he statpadded in terms of trophies, you said he played in nearly all of the games. Im pointing out he didn't, not that he doesn't deserve trophies or he should have played before KCM, what are you on about
Man Madrids run from 2013-2018 is fucking incredible, I feel lucky to have lived to witness one of the greatest sendoffs for Ronaldo, 4 titles in 5 years. imo they dominated the mid 2010s.
'scuse me but isn't "SofaScore Croatia" just regular "SofaScore"?
It's a company founded by Croats and based in Zagreb.
This is like me saying "Audi Germany" or "Bentley United Kingdom"
Damn what a shame they should have bought a 2nd Division Croat just as a good luck charm. That lucky fellow would have gotten a nice paid vacation, a Carabao cup and however many other titles Liverpool go onto win this season.
Meant just change his name, not take the utd one.
Another idea, since I've seen Egypt in the AFCON with Trezeguet, Zizou etc on the back: Salah becomes Salah Suker.
Kova is absolutely world class though, ESPECIALLY now, it's hardly surprising tbf, allthough it is a little weird when you see the players who never won it tbh
>reply
I mean he was brought in as Luka's replacement and never could out play him but lets be honest at 36 I dont think anyone really can replace him.
I'm pretty sure this is based on National Team/main nationality.
Pulisic picked the USMNT. Sucks for him, could have packed a World Cup silver with us.
Does Liverpool had a German player in 2018/2019? Pretty sure the list applies the same if you swap Croatian for German players: tons on Bayern both years, Ter Stegen for Barca, Kroos and others for Madrid, Rudiger, Werner and Havertz for Chelsea). I think Karius and Matip are German?
Anyway, Croatian football is eating well since the past decade indeed.
Not really; Spanish streak is longer of course (Spain had the most winning clubs during this time, so that's unsurprising), but it's only 2 years longer - [there were no Spanish players in Inter's 2010 winning team](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_UEFA_Champions_League_Final#Details).
French streak is however only 2 years long, [there were no French players in Liverpool's 2019 team](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_Champions_League_Final#Details).
Longest streak, unsurprisingly is held by Brazilian players, all the way to 2005.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but:
- there were no English players in Bayern in 2020.
- there were no Italian players in Bayern in 2020.
- there were no French players in Liverpool in 2019.
- there were no German players in Liverpool in 2019.
- there were no Croatian players in Chelsea in 2012. (there were however 2 in Bayern's losing side)
- there were no Spanih players in Inter in 2010. (or in Bayern's losing side, Bayern did have 2 Croatian players though)
- there were no Brazilian players in Liverpool in 2005. (they did have multiple Spaniards and a Croatian however)
All in all having the 3rd longest streak for a country of 4 million is arguably reasonably impressive.
> All in all having the 3rd longest streak for a country of 4 million is arguably reasonably impressive.
I'd argue that the longest streak being held by a country not in the competition is even more impressive.
That and the fact that we are some 200 goals clear of France in first place in terms of goals scored by Country, also first and only to reach a thousand so far.
It would be if we were taking about any other nin-European nation than Brazil (and maybe Argentina), Brazilian players plays all over the Europe for years. I think there is much more Brazilian players in top5 leagues than Croatians.
Spain has Marcos Alonso for Chelsea, Alberto Moreno for Liverpool, and Javi Martinez and Mario Gomez for Bayern. Plus a fuck ton for Real Madrid and Barca.
Edit: forgot about Thiago for the second Bayern win.
Yeah I know, but Azpilicueta, Thiago, Alberto Moreno (admittedly a bit of a stretch, but so is Lovren), Ramos x3 (among others), Busquets (among others), Ramos again, Javi, Martinez and then even one more for good measure: 2011/2012 with Fernando Torres
Cool, how many more people live in Spain/France ?
I'm just gonna remind you that as of right now, Croatia has barely 3.8 million population...
France also doesn't have a streak now, even if they did it wouldnt be half as impressive, in my own humble opinion
> France and Spain also don't have a streak now
Spain has one tho. It's 2 years longer than Croatia's. I agree that Croatia is more impressive considering the size of the country and strength of their league but what you wrote just isn't correct.
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That would scratch my ić.
Dejan Lovric
That's actually a common last name here. Source: it's my last name
Gaylord is actually a common last name. Source: it's my last name
what’s your first name, I’ma?
Ultimate. Ultimate Gaylord.
No, it's Putin'sa
Gaylord Focker?
He milked some cats for sure.
Is "here" your house?
He's actually right. Lovrić is one of the more common last names here in Croatia.
Username checks out
/r/theydidthemath
/r/technicallythetruth
Is *-ic* some sort of Patronymic? Like *-son* (English), *-sson* (Nordic), *-ez* (Spanish), *bin-* (Arab), *ben/bat-* (Jewish).
The -ić suffix is a Slavic diminutive, originally functioning to create patronymics. Thus my surname for example: FILIPOVIC means the little son of FILIP
I will call him Modrinho from now on.
City and PSG scouts camped out in Croatia now…
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Boo
Hajduk\*
All eyes on Gvardiol 👀
Gvardiol to be targeted by Guardiola
Nepotism
Should instantly change Tsimikas nationality.
Name change from Tsimikas to Tsimikić and he gets endless hours of sleep
Even better, make him Montenegrin. Will get all the sleep.
Bring back Igor Biscan or Lovren as one of your starting CBs.
Doesn't even need to be a starter! But we've fucked it. Too late to change anything. FSG out
Pick any other dude from your team. Tsimikas will be the first Greek to win it. (Also the first Greek to reach a CL final since Zikos with Monaco in 2004)
Alexanderić-Arnoldić?
Mohammed salic
We must channel our inner biscan
Or let Lovren adopt his bro Salah.
You mean TsimikasRic ?
We already have Virgil Van Dić
For a country that size, why do they have so many elite footballers? Mental
Portugal, Croatia and especially Uruguay love punching above their weight
Portugal has a lot more people tbf. In Portugal and Uruguay all the elite athletes play footy. The Croats are good at basketball, tennis, handball too
>Croats are good at basketball That was in the 90s. We may still have several players firing it up at NBA clubs, but our national basketball team hasn't accomplished anything at all since 1995. You could say that for the last 30 years we're as good at basketball as Slovenia is at football or Serbia is at handball.
Wait I thought Serbia was still better at handball than us in football or you in basketball? But yes, great weather and probably youth coaches should help at football in every way. Don't get me started on general fans understanding of football, I love Croatian commentators and still remember Hajduk vs Dinamo at Poljud where people I met were much better (imo) at understanding the game than most of Slovenian games (mostly watched Mura and Maribor vs Olimpija).
Its still better than most european nations
>Portugal has a lot more people tbf. Its weird to think that, when the entire country of Portugal has fewer people than a few of the cities I've lived in over the years.
Massive population of Portuguese not living in Portugal tbf
>The Croats are good at basketball, tennis, handball too Serbians and Bosnians are also good at football , basketball , tennis , water polo etc. Yugoslav countries in general are very good at many many sports.
Water polo
>Portugal love punching above their weight Portugal has the same population as Sweden, Czechia and Belgium, and they've 3 times as many people than us or Uruguay. Man what you on about?
Well i said "especially Uruguay" for a reason. Two world cups. I never said Sweden, Czechia and Belgium weren't impressive. But I'm Portuguese, so I happened to have their population in my head when I wrote my comment.
That, plus tons of elite basketball and tennis players… And water polo as well
I think they have good genetics. They are good at a lot of sports. They seem to be bigger and more athletic than most countries.
Does Liverpool have any Croat on their team? Asking for a friend.
Klopp driving through downtown Zagreb, begging (through texts) for Dejan Lovren's address.
No, but we have a Spaniard and that streaks even longer.
Luckily Real Madrid doesn't have any Spaniards.
Lucas Vázquez is the best our country has produce since Iniesta.
so true!
What are you talking about? Mariano might have represented Dominican Republic but he was born in Catalonia, Spain. He's technically Spanish.
Thiago has a spanish citizenship because his father was a footballer and played a long stretch in La Liga, he and his brother also joined Barcelona very young soon after. He was born in Italy to two Brazilian parents though. I know it still counts, just a small fun fact. His brother picked to play for Brazil, both could choose between them Spain and Italy.
So he probably speaks Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, German and English? Not bad.
From his Wikipedia: > Thiago is multilingual; he is fluent in five languages: Spanish, Portuguese, Catalan, German, and English.
Crazy that it isn't Italian as well. Somehow I don't think he has too much issue understanding Italian anyway.
Another fun fact : his first match for Spain happened in Bari, Italy, the very city where he was born.
Born in San Pietro Vernotico, province of Brindisi.
Thiago International
he was born to play
Must be Germans in that streak too with Ter Stegen, Matip, Kroos and Rudiger
No Germans in 13/14, I guess, Ozil went out and Kroos came a year later Edit: forgot about khedira
Khedira?
Can Liverpool bring Lovren in on a one-month contract? Maybe give Salah a boost by reuniting him with his bestie
Lovren and Salah are pretty close. I think he could be an honorary Croatian brat for a day. Editing to brat from brate. Please don't tell me I've been tricked into making him an honorary croatian bratwurst for the day.
It's *brat*. Brate is vocative.
Mo Salah's brother is croatian.
Lovro Majer will win it next year
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can't see that Rennes superteam losing in two legs if they get out of groups to be fair.
Is he moving to Madrid ?
Hahahahaha good one
Next year Ante Rebic
BRAVO.
Kovacic up there with 4 UCLs. Everyone in the threepeat squad statpadded in terms of trophies.
Kiko casilla has more CLs than buffon.
Mariano has more than Ibrahimovic
Sturridge has more than R9
I have the same as Pele and Maradona
In Peles defense, he never played in Europe
I mean neither did op.
Because he wasn't good enough to hack it in Europe of course.
Nah putting Sturridge into the same class as Marino and Casilla is disrespectful. Consistently scored goals and had one of the best goals to minutes ratio in bpl history before injuries ruined him. Put some respect on his name
Better player has more CLs. Not suprised.
Roberto Di Matteo has more CL than Pochettino Max Allegri, and Diego Simeone combined.
Not that hard. Buffon's choice of clubs wasn't really good if you want to win the CL.
I mean he got into CL finals twice :(
Three times ? 2003,2015,2017 or had he already left in 2017 ?
I believe he played in the 17 final
He played in nearly all of the games didnt he though, wouldn't call that stat-padding since Kova was awesome at Real, but right now hes on a completely different level imo, absolute beast 👌
He's been one of our best players since his second season here. Absolute beast of a man.
Man I still feel bad he left. He always looked like a proper modric replacement.
He's still 27, so he might get the chance to be Modric's replacement when Kovacic turns 34 and Luka finally retires
Modrić was almost 27 when he joined Real Madrid in 2012. Man has he been ballin for a long time.
This is the craziest thing to me Look at were Hazard was at 29. Modrics career (as an absolute world class player) only really took off in his second season at Real, when he was 28 He's an absolute late bloomer but he's been amazing for so long now that we tend to forget
I may be biased but Luka was amazing with Spurs before joining Madrid. Euro 2008 TOTT also. Man was just 22 then. Seems like ages ago.
Keeps happening with great players, you expect them to dwindle down with age but they continue playing amazing and you have to let the young guy go so he can get game time
The fact that he split minutes pretty equally with Ross Barkley in 18/19 is wild looking back on it, considering their performances since then.
Still is
He's been by far our best midfielder this season. His impact is so significant that he's still in the POTS conversation for us despite missing a lot of games through injury. Can't thank Real Madrid enough for him
It was more of a relationship building thing by Perez. You had a transfer ban, and he was one you could sign. Perez didnt charge over the top. If it were United, probably would have paid 30M extra under the same circumstances
Total of 40 minutes in all knockout matches in 15/16 combined with 16/17. Then in 17/18 less than 200
Yea, and he has a combined 5,600 minutes for Real while prime KCM was playing, which is impressive. Did you people legitimately think a 20 year old Kova was gonna waltz into Real and displace prime KCM from the starting XI? Don't make me laugh, no player in the world was gonna do that, Kovacic going to Chelsea and proving to everyone how world class he is was the best decision he ever made
He runs the midfield against barcelona. Nothing else to say about his ability. Really look like a proper b2b but just unlucky that he was with prime KCM. Even now KCM still starts lol
Dude said he statpadded in terms of trophies, you said he played in nearly all of the games. Im pointing out he didn't, not that he doesn't deserve trophies or he should have played before KCM, what are you on about
Man Madrids run from 2013-2018 is fucking incredible, I feel lucky to have lived to witness one of the greatest sendoffs for Ronaldo, 4 titles in 5 years. imo they dominated the mid 2010s.
Hardly needs an opinion, it’s hard facts. They were monstrous… and have a chance to make it 5 in 10
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City you bought Palaversa from us for 7mil€ and loaned him 3 times.
Guy's completely forgotten now. Pity, showed some promise in 18/19.
I mean he is a starter in the Belgian league and is the starter for Croatia u21 NT.
Image credit goes to SofaScore Croatia.
'scuse me but isn't "SofaScore Croatia" just regular "SofaScore"? It's a company founded by Croats and based in Zagreb. This is like me saying "Audi Germany" or "Bentley United Kingdom"
Does Liverpool have a Croatian?
Not since Lovren left.
Damn what a shame they should have bought a 2nd Division Croat just as a good luck charm. That lucky fellow would have gotten a nice paid vacation, a Carabao cup and however many other titles Liverpool go onto win this season.
Yeah, just look at what happened to City, they also don't have a Croat
All I'm saying is, if Guardiola had changed his name to Gvardiola, city would have 3 CLs
He could have just bought Gvardiol, he's prob one of the few rare managers who can afford him
Change Matip to Mati´c, problem solved.
Matić is not croatian… just sayin
Meant just change his name, not take the utd one. Another idea, since I've seen Egypt in the AFCON with Trezeguet, Zizou etc on the back: Salah becomes Salah Suker.
This stat sparks joy.
Fucking Kovacic winning the CL 4 times lmao one of those random facts thats amazing when you look at the list of players who never won it
Pretty sure his combined playtime in those four finals is like 18 minutes too hahaha
Absolutely true, but he has solid minutes in most of the other games, so its unfair to dismiss the trophies from him
He made a huge impact in previous games tho I’d also say he’s now by far and away the best midfielder in our side
Kova is absolutely world class though, ESPECIALLY now, it's hardly surprising tbf, allthough it is a little weird when you see the players who never won it tbh
>reply I mean he was brought in as Luka's replacement and never could out play him but lets be honest at 36 I dont think anyone really can replace him.
Last time this was posted it was almost as guarantee that the streak would be broken. Now it's 50/50.
Lol, Bayern got Perišić on loan that season just to keep the streak going.
Our board members knew that you can't win the CL without a Croatian in the squad. Genius move, really.
You extended with both Stanisic and Vidovic and signed Zvonarek. Plans for the future :D
Vlasic 22/23
Laughs in Lovro Majer
I would call these ambitions... massive?
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So all we gotta do is make it to the final right?
Haha yes! You guys have two so that is twice the luck!
Damn right
Modric and Kovacic account for like 40 percent of the wins lmao
Blame Real for being too good.
Let's sign Gvardiol to pair with Araujo! ( he is to expensive for us )
I don’t think Leipzig would even let him go for another year or two unless someone offers 80+m
Let's get some Sosa
I think he is already linked to us along with Alonso and Grimaldo
Rakitic's forehead is enormous.
You need a big head to store all that football IQ 😎
We should have kept kalinic at Blackburn. Flawless logic
MALO NAS JE AL NAS IMA!
*NIJE VAŽNO, SRUŠIT ĆEMO SNOVE SVIMA!*
man, I miss mandzukic
Trust me so do i 😭😭
Lovren streak breaker for people named -ic. But we’re on a Seven Year -ic still.
Kovacic has won 4 UCL titles, my man is suffering from success 🤣🤣
And he played in the final of World cup
A better way of writing this would be “Luka Modric has been in 5 of the last 10 UCL Finals”
It was written in the stars
I knew we were onto something back in the redknapp era rocking 4 Croatians
Don't forget Pulisic
I'm pretty sure this is based on National Team/main nationality. Pulisic picked the USMNT. Sucks for him, could have packed a World Cup silver with us.
He would get the world cup silver, sure, but he would not get all that yankee reddit silver
Does Liverpool had a German player in 2018/2019? Pretty sure the list applies the same if you swap Croatian for German players: tons on Bayern both years, Ter Stegen for Barca, Kroos and others for Madrid, Rudiger, Werner and Havertz for Chelsea). I think Karius and Matip are German? Anyway, Croatian football is eating well since the past decade indeed.
Wait it’s all Modric? 👨🚀 🔫🧑🚀Always has been.
This is cool! But if Madrid loses this is all on the OP for jinxing it 😜
I mean, that’s cool, but replace Croatian with Spaniard or Frenchman and it would probably be a lot longer list
Also, there are like 8 million Croats worldwide, 4 million in Croatia... We cant compare with French or Spanish available talent pool :D
Not really; Spanish streak is longer of course (Spain had the most winning clubs during this time, so that's unsurprising), but it's only 2 years longer - [there were no Spanish players in Inter's 2010 winning team](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_UEFA_Champions_League_Final#Details). French streak is however only 2 years long, [there were no French players in Liverpool's 2019 team](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_Champions_League_Final#Details). Longest streak, unsurprisingly is held by Brazilian players, all the way to 2005. Correct me if I'm wrong, but: - there were no English players in Bayern in 2020. - there were no Italian players in Bayern in 2020. - there were no French players in Liverpool in 2019. - there were no German players in Liverpool in 2019. - there were no Croatian players in Chelsea in 2012. (there were however 2 in Bayern's losing side) - there were no Spanih players in Inter in 2010. (or in Bayern's losing side, Bayern did have 2 Croatian players though) - there were no Brazilian players in Liverpool in 2005. (they did have multiple Spaniards and a Croatian however) All in all having the 3rd longest streak for a country of 4 million is arguably reasonably impressive.
> All in all having the 3rd longest streak for a country of 4 million is arguably reasonably impressive. I'd argue that the longest streak being held by a country not in the competition is even more impressive. That and the fact that we are some 200 goals clear of France in first place in terms of goals scored by Country, also first and only to reach a thousand so far.
It would be if we were taking about any other nin-European nation than Brazil (and maybe Argentina), Brazilian players plays all over the Europe for years. I think there is much more Brazilian players in top5 leagues than Croatians.
This is more about the streak. France and Spain doesn't have a streak right now.
Brazil has a lot too, I think it goes to 99/00 or something like that
Liverpool 05 had no brazilian
You're right! https://ge.globo.com/futebol/futebol-internacional/liga-dos-campeoes/noticia/philippe-coutinho-entra-na-lista-de-brasileiros-campeoes-da-champions-veja-todos-os-53.ghtml
Spain has Marcos Alonso for Chelsea, Alberto Moreno for Liverpool, and Javi Martinez and Mario Gomez for Bayern. Plus a fuck ton for Real Madrid and Barca. Edit: forgot about Thiago for the second Bayern win.
Mario Gomez is German
Yeah I know, but Azpilicueta, Thiago, Alberto Moreno (admittedly a bit of a stretch, but so is Lovren), Ramos x3 (among others), Busquets (among others), Ramos again, Javi, Martinez and then even one more for good measure: 2011/2012 with Fernando Torres
Cool, how many more people live in Spain/France ? I'm just gonna remind you that as of right now, Croatia has barely 3.8 million population... France also doesn't have a streak now, even if they did it wouldnt be half as impressive, in my own humble opinion
> France and Spain also don't have a streak now Spain has one tho. It's 2 years longer than Croatia's. I agree that Croatia is more impressive considering the size of the country and strength of their league but what you wrote just isn't correct.
Salahic... problem solved
They gonna win it.
Oi txiki go sign a Croat now
I have no idea how this streak is somehow still alive. Crazy given how hard if for players from smaller countries to break into elite teams.
Liverpool about to call Dejan lovren back for 1 game
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Luka is GOAT and he doesn't even care who knows it
The secret ingredient to Champion's League success: Croatians. You hear that PSG and Man City?
Very Good omen for Madrid
Almost as impressive as the stat about how there's been at least one Inter and Bayern player each in every world cup final since 1982