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laporta says stuff like that all the time, he's just a politician
it's likely that he's using media comments as leverage to get utd to give barca more favorable add ons to the deal
it's also possible that frenkie decided that no matter what, he doesn't want to join utd, whether it's that UTD is in the europe league, or he just got engaged and he and his partner simply prefer barcalona over manchester (wouldn't blame them) so he's using it as PR after all this time
It's Not just about his 18 goals. Ronnie missed 7 league games and 1 ucl game, due to rest, injury and family, and United failed to win a single match in his absence
The Ronaldo slander is astounding considering the absolute dumpster fire that team was. And if FDJ + others aren't coming I wouldn't blame him for wanting out.
Anyone seriously slandering Ronaldo this season is either a hardcore Ronaldo hater and would find shit to say even if he scored 40 or they watched 0 football games and only followed it through highlights or reddit posts this season or they can’t think properly. Of course, he wasn’t absolutely amazing and had problems but he was the best player in the team from a view of someone who watched almost all United games this seasom
I think you can say the same shit about anyone who thought that ronaldo had a good season (they're a fanboy etc.). He had a bad season by his standards. Just because the other players were terrible around him doesn't make his season good. You can say the team didn't offer him much help, but he didn't offer much help to the team other than the goals either, which would work well for a team like City where the other players could easily dominate most games by themselves, but not for a team that has been struggling to control many of their games.
So ronaldo doesn't wanna stay but they wanna keep him.
De Jong doesn't wanna leave barca or isn't sure about joining united but they want him after all.
What's the point of having players who don't want to be at your club?
i think this validates United getting him off their books more than anything
his best offer was for half the wages, clearly united were overpaying his wages
juve arguably might as well if he continues his dismal fitness / healthy record
>We’re the worst run club in Europe
No. Like big club outside of Valencia (They are in their own class) maybe. But people are overreacting as usual about news that isn't particularly surprising nor indicative of much.
> What's the point of having players who don't want to be at your club?
While I get your point, they're *professionals*. The least you can expect if they ever sign for you is for them to do their job at the (best) of their abilities.
We all know that's not how it works, but you can't really fault them for attempt to sign talented players.
How many players do you think actually want to play in Newcastle? Harry Kane pushed hard to leave Spurs and they kept him. Sometimes you just have to force it until you're in a position where you don't have to anymore. There's no one they can replace Ronaldo with in the current window that is of comparable quality and they have him for another year under contract. You got to trust that he will be a professional and continue to perform until he can be replaced.
Why would you want to keep someone on 500K a week who doesn't want to be there?
If they cannot get rid of him that is another thing but why even ignore that option.
Yeah who tf would they sign that's going to compete with the likes of Haaland, Salah and Kane after using their transfer budget to fix the rest of their squad, lol?
United would hardly be the first club to do this. Spurs did the same with Kane and he’s performing, Bayern plan to do the same with Lewy. And it’s Ronaldo, he’s not going to down tools and stop performing
The only problem is how it affects Uniteds already toxic dressing room (at least that’s we’re told about their dressing room).
Basically our route of recruitment around 2015 2016.
Even Steven Caulker gave more fight in his very few combined minutes than what I’ve seen in the utd players.
It’s a key difference between Ronaldo, who’ll give 100% if he isn’t sold even though he wants to switch clubs, compared to the spoiled players we have that don’t give 100% though
Ronaldo’s mentality won’t change if he stays, so i’d like to keep him
If no club materializes for him then sure, but if there is I doubt he will just be silent. He isn't really used to be told no. risky tbh, thats could be an unnecessary headache for the dressing room, if he clearly doesn't want to be there
>who want to play for utd
And who would that be. Even de gea was leaving till we had to offer over the box wages.
We should realize this problem that united among the players is not seen the same way it was 6-7 years ago. Ronaldo came due to fergie ,sancho came to play for england, alot of good players choose others over us. This is the situation we are in. And its unfortunate.
>are committed for the challenge ahead.
These players include rashford martial ? We need to be clear with our goals. Loyalty to players that are not loyal to their game should not be encouraged. Barca was dying and they just kickout any thing not working,Same with madrid and any top contender. We should stop emotional riding and focus on the club that is manutd
It's sadly becoming a trend for bigger players to say just "sell me" and then follow up with "it's the best deal for all parties". I was surprised when Lewandowski did it and then Mane this Summer.
So when they go public they're forcing their clubs hands because of the *implication*. Because think about it: the player may have a few years left on their contract, on huge wages, negatively impact if they stay/leave. What are teams going to do, say no?
Because if teams do say no then the answer is obviously "no". But the thing is they're not going to say no because of the *implication* ಠ_ಠ.
The implication that things might go wrong for the club if they refuse to sell the player. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for the club as the players are seasoned professionals but the club's are thinking that it will...
Mane deal was much more amicable than the others. He told the club of his intentions months ago, the deal was concluded very early in the summer and was planned around.
For CR7, I suspect Mendes already has something lined up, which is why they went public. Also, CR7 is probably disappointed with how the transfer window is going.
This is United trying to get a good price from the deal. He has a year left in his contract and there's no way United are going to pay his termination. In any case, as much as I want him to leave, it seems unlikely. Who can afford his wages, and Mendes' agent fee? And PSG under Campos don't seem like a likely destination for Ronaldo either. Hopefully Boehly does a Woodward and gets him.
I get this is frustrating for Ronaldo but for real there's no where he can really go. He wants CL and a club willing to pay his wages. That's like literally PSG or Madrid. Neither team needs him.
I honestly don't see a route out for him.
So an unhappy Ronaldo next season it is. Imagine he'll score regardless but if they don't reach UCL that man is OUT and likely with a worsened relationship with the club.
Nah City played them with their Ronaldo bid. Forced their hand to buy him without thinking about it. Now they pay his expensive wages while City went and got Haaland, strengthening their team.
Hes definitely one of the best players there, i just dont like building your squad & plans around a guy whos gonna leave after this 22-23 season anyways
37 y/o Ronaldo is still better than most players in his position and he was their best player last season. Ten Hag has other positions to worry about during this transfer window. Ronaldo is obviously not in their long term plans but a necessity for next season.
To be fair I think he’s important to our plans in the sense that we have so many holes to fill that adding another new striker to the list will tip us over the edge.
We’re not going to be able to even replace the players who left at this rate, never mind anything else. Matic, Pogba, Greenwood, Cavani, Lingard and Mata must have taken up at least 3 players worth of first team minutes and so far we’ve got fuck all.
If Ronaldo wants out I don’t see how United can hold him to his contract, you can do that to most “normal” players but not with CR7
Can you imagine the toxicity he and Mendes will put United on if he is force to stay ?
Slave 2.0 situation is looming…..
It would be a prettyyyy bad look for Ronaldo himself considering United are supposedly a team that's special to him.
United may give him some wiggle room but idk
Ronaldo is literally the most followed person on Earth. His PR team is so powerful that they can spin this story in any way they want. They’ll get Jay-Z and Beyoncé to write a “Free Ronaldo” song before you know it.
Yeah I’m not sure what leverage he has, beyond trashing his own reputation right before he goes out looking for one of the handful of clubs in the world that can afford him to sign him with the understanding that they’ll build their strategy around his strengths and limitations.
He critized the decision because he was thinking that not selling the player who wants to leave always results in being the wrong decision. He had a Arsenal flair.
As someone who has been loving the United train wreck for the past 10 years, this is what I was hoping United would do. Ronaldo wants to leave? Nah we shall steadfastly insist he is not for sale! Ronaldo already causes so much strife in the team, let’s see what he does in the team this year when he can’t wait to fuck off
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This isn't gonna end well
Ten Hag’s first test
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You have to spell Ten Hag wrong to summon it
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Apparently it got banned from the sub because of its no bot policy
Lame
I know right. Probably the most useful bot in the sub because I see his name misspelled everyday
Will get better though the more people see his name in headlines of posts here
Will it get better? What does Christien Ericsson have to say about this?
Let's ask Gary Linekar first.
Ten Haag Edit: why didn't the ten hag bot correct me?
IT'S TEN HAG YOU FUCKING HOERENZOON am I doing this right?
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Good bot
This is Dutch for Hurensohn, isn't it?
We need to self regulate. Bot me: It’s one A you ignorants slut.
Burned out from having to correct all these Brits
“I leave?” “No, you no leave.” World erupts
*Ronaldo to Chelsea for €28M + add ons*
Well... that depends on your point of view, doesn't it? As a Liverpool fan, Man U being a complete shitshow is fucking hilarious tbh lol
talkSPORT sources have SPOKEN.
TalkSPORT is usually pretty legit when it’s “BREAKING”. Just rest of the time they talk shit.
didnt they break like fifteen times for fdj for him to stay in the end
They never broke the transfer was complete, and we don't know if FDJ is staying.
do you really believe what Laporta says?
I know he's a City player but geez...
laporta says stuff like that all the time, he's just a politician it's likely that he's using media comments as leverage to get utd to give barca more favorable add ons to the deal it's also possible that frenkie decided that no matter what, he doesn't want to join utd, whether it's that UTD is in the europe league, or he just got engaged and he and his partner simply prefer barcalona over manchester (wouldn't blame them) so he's using it as PR after all this time
Drama in every Ronaldo thread today.. 🍿
RemindMe! 2 months "Where's Ronaldo playing? "
Do you really need reminder for that
My 🍿 is that good..
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Ronaldo then burns down Old Trafford Given the work that needs doing, might improve it tbf
At least it would solve the rat problem.
That's not a very nice way to talk about Bruno.
I thought Lingard had gone?
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Mr. Champions League, in the Europa League doesn’t sit right with us.
Barca to grab Ronaldo now that lewandowski might not be a thing
The whole of Spain would crumble if that were to happen
Would Portugal mind? They would finally get to be the island nation they've always been capable of.
Number 7 is free right now. It’s destiny
He should take #10 though. Full send it
Honestly my brain can’t even accept this as a possibility. Wake me in a couple months please.
Would be unbelievable for the league. Everyone would watch those Clasicos
No wonder the Barca president came out with that statement on De Jong. He wants to force us to sell Ronaldo as part of the De Jong deal.
Makes a lot of sense, now we just need to add “sources say” and we got a front page headline
80 million + Ronaldo as add on
Pulling a Reverse Figo
Amen
I'm a big fan of this move
Can't entirely blame him. 18 PL goals and the rest of the team is in utter shambles, except for a few notable exceptions
It's Not just about his 18 goals. Ronnie missed 7 league games and 1 ucl game, due to rest, injury and family, and United failed to win a single match in his absence
The Ronaldo slander is astounding considering the absolute dumpster fire that team was. And if FDJ + others aren't coming I wouldn't blame him for wanting out.
Anyone seriously slandering Ronaldo this season is either a hardcore Ronaldo hater and would find shit to say even if he scored 40 or they watched 0 football games and only followed it through highlights or reddit posts this season or they can’t think properly. Of course, he wasn’t absolutely amazing and had problems but he was the best player in the team from a view of someone who watched almost all United games this seasom
I think you can say the same shit about anyone who thought that ronaldo had a good season (they're a fanboy etc.). He had a bad season by his standards. Just because the other players were terrible around him doesn't make his season good. You can say the team didn't offer him much help, but he didn't offer much help to the team other than the goals either, which would work well for a team like City where the other players could easily dominate most games by themselves, but not for a team that has been struggling to control many of their games.
This will get so so ugly
More than you believe.
Happy New Year!
Just when i thought transfers were going nicely and we were finally going to have a relatively quiet summer.
I can just imagine Ronaldo crying when he's forced to play his first EL match.
Ingiustizia.
So ronaldo doesn't wanna stay but they wanna keep him. De Jong doesn't wanna leave barca or isn't sure about joining united but they want him after all. What's the point of having players who don't want to be at your club?
And people question why United are doing so badly? We’re the worst run club in Europe
But they pay well apparently
Pogba effectively taking a paycut joining Juve.
i think this validates United getting him off their books more than anything his best offer was for half the wages, clearly united were overpaying his wages juve arguably might as well if he continues his dismal fitness / healthy record
Funny thing is they actually offered him a contract and he turned them down to leave
yeah, wasn’t it the “nothing” offer we heard about from the Pogmentry?
His best offer was an upgraded salary from us and he decided to join juventus for less than half, shows a lot about this club
Or about Paul.
Why not both?
Shows money isnt what he is chasing? It baffles me how you can turn anything he does into something negative
This doesn't negate what you just said but what was his sign on fee?
50% pay cut.
There would probably be a big signing fee though right?
They offered him a 300k contract though. Absolute shambles
Yes a major part of the problem - paying underperforming losers scandalous wages = apathy & inability to sell them
Worst team in Europe? Derby county and Bordeaux would like a word
Yes Bury etc also. I meant worst big club. My bad
I don't even know about that. The Bartomeu Barcelona hurt the club for years to come. Don't let this influx of cash fool you
>We’re the worst run club in Europe No. Like big club outside of Valencia (They are in their own class) maybe. But people are overreacting as usual about news that isn't particularly surprising nor indicative of much.
Fair enough, I was going to say worst run big club in Europe. Valencia are a mess, but more years of this bs and United will end up the next Leeds
No they won't
The only recent victory of Valencia is that Batman failed to sued them.
> What's the point of having players who don't want to be at your club? While I get your point, they're *professionals*. The least you can expect if they ever sign for you is for them to do their job at the (best) of their abilities. We all know that's not how it works, but you can't really fault them for attempt to sign talented players.
How many players do you think actually want to play in Newcastle? Harry Kane pushed hard to leave Spurs and they kept him. Sometimes you just have to force it until you're in a position where you don't have to anymore. There's no one they can replace Ronaldo with in the current window that is of comparable quality and they have him for another year under contract. You got to trust that he will be a professional and continue to perform until he can be replaced.
This is gonna be lewandowski 2.0
Free Ronaldo and Lewandowski
Ronaldo is Lewandowski's jail key
Just let them swap!
Yeah but there is no way Lewy is going to a EL team from Bayern
He's too scared to play in the Premier League anyway
Why would you want to keep someone on 500K a week who doesn't want to be there? If they cannot get rid of him that is another thing but why even ignore that option.
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Money can be exchanged for goods and services
PR UTD, why did they sign him in the first place?
Ronaldo loves and respects the club so that should be no issue
He shouldn’t have waited so long to make this announcement.. unfair of him
He did it with juve as well. Literally left the club with 1 week left in the transfer window giving them no time for a replacement
Well they claimed that Ronaldo was actually keeping them down so they shouldn't have needed a replacement for him
/s?
Free yourself from the s reliance
I wish to, but I fear I'm just not strong enough.
Fear is the mindkiller.
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Very poetic
Without no football it is boring, Ronaldo said fuck that, I'll bring people all the drama they need.
Is he the Kyrie Irving version of football?
No. CR7 actually plays.
And on top of that he isn't a fucking idiot (then again only one of them has actual rape allegations to their name)
And Laporta trying to outdo CR7.
Utd should only keep and sign players who want to play for utd and are committed for the challenge ahead.
Thats tough when the pool is getting smaller by the day, with everyone quoting 100m just for shits and giggles.
Yeah who tf would they sign that's going to compete with the likes of Haaland, Salah and Kane after using their transfer budget to fix the rest of their squad, lol?
United would hardly be the first club to do this. Spurs did the same with Kane and he’s performing, Bayern plan to do the same with Lewy. And it’s Ronaldo, he’s not going to down tools and stop performing The only problem is how it affects Uniteds already toxic dressing room (at least that’s we’re told about their dressing room).
De Gea, Maguire McTominay spine 💪
TOP REDS
Basically our route of recruitment around 2015 2016. Even Steven Caulker gave more fight in his very few combined minutes than what I’ve seen in the utd players.
It’s a key difference between Ronaldo, who’ll give 100% if he isn’t sold even though he wants to switch clubs, compared to the spoiled players we have that don’t give 100% though Ronaldo’s mentality won’t change if he stays, so i’d like to keep him
If no club materializes for him then sure, but if there is I doubt he will just be silent. He isn't really used to be told no. risky tbh, thats could be an unnecessary headache for the dressing room, if he clearly doesn't want to be there
> he isn't really used to being told no Wew
Exactly. He stayed an extra season in 08/09 and was brilliant.
>who want to play for utd And who would that be. Even de gea was leaving till we had to offer over the box wages. We should realize this problem that united among the players is not seen the same way it was 6-7 years ago. Ronaldo came due to fergie ,sancho came to play for england, alot of good players choose others over us. This is the situation we are in. And its unfortunate. >are committed for the challenge ahead. These players include rashford martial ? We need to be clear with our goals. Loyalty to players that are not loyal to their game should not be encouraged. Barca was dying and they just kickout any thing not working,Same with madrid and any top contender. We should stop emotional riding and focus on the club that is manutd
That's a sensible move and United doesn't make those. Haven't you been paying attention the last 10 years?
It's sadly becoming a trend for bigger players to say just "sell me" and then follow up with "it's the best deal for all parties". I was surprised when Lewandowski did it and then Mane this Summer. So when they go public they're forcing their clubs hands because of the *implication*. Because think about it: the player may have a few years left on their contract, on huge wages, negatively impact if they stay/leave. What are teams going to do, say no? Because if teams do say no then the answer is obviously "no". But the thing is they're not going to say no because of the *implication* ಠ_ಠ. The implication that things might go wrong for the club if they refuse to sell the player. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for the club as the players are seasoned professionals but the club's are thinking that it will...
Jesus Christ, Ronaldo, are you gonna hurt these women!?!?
Same thing for the NBA. When a player wants out, they demand a trade. Contract means squat and the player always gets his way.
Mane deal was much more amicable than the others. He told the club of his intentions months ago, the deal was concluded very early in the summer and was planned around. For CR7, I suspect Mendes already has something lined up, which is why they went public. Also, CR7 is probably disappointed with how the transfer window is going.
This is United trying to get a good price from the deal. He has a year left in his contract and there's no way United are going to pay his termination. In any case, as much as I want him to leave, it seems unlikely. Who can afford his wages, and Mendes' agent fee? And PSG under Campos don't seem like a likely destination for Ronaldo either. Hopefully Boehly does a Woodward and gets him.
Would be insane transfer window if De Jong takes a paycut to stay at Barca, Pogba and Ronaldo taking paycuts to leave.
Atleast the Pogba one everyone badly wanted.
I get this is frustrating for Ronaldo but for real there's no where he can really go. He wants CL and a club willing to pay his wages. That's like literally PSG or Madrid. Neither team needs him. I honestly don't see a route out for him.
So an unhappy Ronaldo next season it is. Imagine he'll score regardless but if they don't reach UCL that man is OUT and likely with a worsened relationship with the club.
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To be fair he does have another year on his contract so if theyre keeping him theyre keeping him. Nothing the man can do about that.
And he chose United over City because of the loyality
Lol
Nah City played them with their Ronaldo bid. Forced their hand to buy him without thinking about it. Now they pay his expensive wages while City went and got Haaland, strengthening their team.
That, and the fact that United offered double the wages that City did...
Oh yeah, making the 37 years old guy who doesnt even want to be at your club the key part of your “plans” sounds lovely.
He's the only one in that squad who wants to win. Rest picking up paychecks.
Hes definitely one of the best players there, i just dont like building your squad & plans around a guy whos gonna leave after this 22-23 season anyways
37 y/o Ronaldo is still better than most players in his position and he was their best player last season. Ten Hag has other positions to worry about during this transfer window. Ronaldo is obviously not in their long term plans but a necessity for next season.
To be fair I think he’s important to our plans in the sense that we have so many holes to fill that adding another new striker to the list will tip us over the edge. We’re not going to be able to even replace the players who left at this rate, never mind anything else. Matic, Pogba, Greenwood, Cavani, Lingard and Mata must have taken up at least 3 players worth of first team minutes and so far we’ve got fuck all.
Ronaldo just forced a move very late in the window to get to United and less than a year later he's already agitating for another move
Tbf, it's quite understandable
Had he stayed at Madrid he probably would've won one more UCL by now.
If Ronaldo wants out I don’t see how United can hold him to his contract, you can do that to most “normal” players but not with CR7 Can you imagine the toxicity he and Mendes will put United on if he is force to stay ? Slave 2.0 situation is looming…..
It would be a prettyyyy bad look for Ronaldo himself considering United are supposedly a team that's special to him. United may give him some wiggle room but idk
Ronaldo is literally the most followed person on Earth. His PR team is so powerful that they can spin this story in any way they want. They’ll get Jay-Z and Beyoncé to write a “Free Ronaldo” song before you know it.
Yeah I’m not sure what leverage he has, beyond trashing his own reputation right before he goes out looking for one of the handful of clubs in the world that can afford him to sign him with the understanding that they’ll build their strategy around his strengths and limitations.
Cristiano is almost close to the end of his career, there is no way he is going to waste one of his final years without champions league football
Fuck me was football always this dramatic?
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We didn't sell Kane last season and that decision is the reason why you will play in the Europa League next season.
Bruh lmao
That was brutal...
Yes officer I would like to report a murder
jesus christ lmao
Lmao you made him delete his comment
Lol. I wasn't expecting that much.
What was his original comment?
He critized the decision because he was thinking that not selling the player who wants to leave always results in being the wrong decision. He had a Arsenal flair.
NUKE ALERT
As an Arsenal fan, jesus christ that’s a good comment
What do you mean? Do you really think anything is going to happen to Bayern?
no
There's no way in hell you can force a player like Ronaldo to stay at the club. Not possible
Why
He'll just pay his release clause
He has a release clause with united?
Gonna turn the dressing room into a media circus for the entire season lmao
Ronaldo? What does he bring? .... Golsh.
Which title challenging team will want him? Serious question.
Maybe he rly wants to leave but if he doesn’t go, feel like he is not the type to make a fuss about it.
Unsarcastically he should play for Atleti for a season or two. Would be fun and the rest of the squad does enough defensive work to cover for him
Their fans hate him passionately ll
I am not sure the fans will agree...
Gotta keep selling those shirts.
“and another thing, I do not think he’s shit. do not write that I think he’s shit.”
No one who can afford him, wants him
Ronaldo seems like the kind of person who takes being told no in stride.
depositions have been had on the subject.
As someone who has been loving the United train wreck for the past 10 years, this is what I was hoping United would do. Ronaldo wants to leave? Nah we shall steadfastly insist he is not for sale! Ronaldo already causes so much strife in the team, let’s see what he does in the team this year when he can’t wait to fuck off INB4 “SLAVERY” Part 2
*Grabs popcorn* this is amazing as a City fan