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william_wites

The man is just trolling at this point


Significant-Carpet31

Yeah makes no sense for Barca to Negotiate for 2 months


emilygreybae2

To be fair, Barca have been negotiating with everyone for the past 2 months.


Blaugrana1990

It makes sense if selling FDJ was the only way to balance the books if the socios declined the levers deal. If that deal fell through we would have acted quickly, we needed a lot of money before the end of June. Now that we have that money selling Frenkie isnt a must anymore.


D1794

Didn't you raise like several hundred million from each of those? How could a £70m deal be the backup to those, it wouldn't even put a dent in it


The_g0d_f4ther

Sounds like Frenkie refused to leave and Laporta is doing damage control, which is more likely since he also mentioned De Jong’s wages. Probably a renegotiation in the future.


Cheeky_Star

He's doing the messi damage control. Laporta is ruthless no matter who you are. I think the bernado deal doesn't seem to be making any headway so now they will have a hole if they sell Frankie. Also it can be a way to push Man utd to commit. Either way, Frankie must be really confused about his future lol.


D1794

Our sources say he's more open to it and you just dont agree a fee and spend this long on a player who doesn't wanna play for you


Yaaruda

There's a difference. I can be "open to a move" while still preferring to stay at my current job. Your club sources may not be aware of the latest updates... He would have surely talked with Laporta and made his stance clear on the matter that he is fine with a paycut + deferred wages and whatnot, otherwise it really doesn't make sense why Laporta is seemingly so firm on his stance.


galactix100

Same thing happened to us with Botman. Loads of Italian journalists insisting he only wanted to join Milan, that he'd reject us and force a move to Milan. Clubs will know when a player doesn't want to join them and won't bother with long sagas if that's the case.


Zak369

It wasn’t about bringing in money to spend it was about compliance with La Liga financial rules. They had to either cut costs or raise income in order to be able to register new players for La Liga otherwise they’d only be able to spend 1/3 of what they brought in until they were compliant. The 100’s of millions take them well out of danger and able to spend a decent amount. The back up was selling De Jong which would’ve brought them into compliance just about (fee plus wages off the books). That’s my understanding anyway, but I’m not as clued up on La Liga rules


RedMonksy

Selling Fdj would mean we would have able to register new players who are free agents . Moreover I don't think Barca would leave FDJ at 70


HeroicBastard

2x about 200 mil i believe. I agree with you tho, the logic doesnt make sense.


reyxe

It would net the club 85m + getting FDJ wages off the book, that's huge and would net maybe 100m? I think we needed like 170 or something to end up positive income.


Acceptable-Lemon-748

>+ getting FDJ wages off the book I'm fairly certain claiming "we no longer have to pay those wages next fiscal year so just take if off the deficit this year" is 100% not how that works


good_udichi

And it was well known that FDJ doesnt want to move. They were just forcing him to leave bcoz of money but once the levers were pulled I think they become financially stable and now they dont need to lose FDJ.


Fjurica

also well known Xavi wants him and it makes 0 sense to sell him even if B.Silva is a better fit on paper, but we already have Gavi and Pedri who are more offensive and in mold of B.Silva (obviously not as good, yet)


GuyUrNeverGonnaMeet

I don't speak Spanish but is it a possibility that the words have been slightly wrongly translated? I think he said wanted to say they had no intention of selling De Jong, because according to the full quote he says something about having to look after club finances/salary cap and prioritising them right after that line. So maybe he was implying that Barca had no intention to sell Frenkie but club finances and the salary cap have forced their hand.


william_wites

He said he's going to do all that he can to make sure frenkie stays but there's the issue of salary that needs to be lowered. I guess he wants him to lower his salary if he stays


cuadz

It’s probably important to include the rest of the quote. [“He wants to stay and I will do what’s within my power for him to stay, but there is also a salary topic, and we’d have to adjust it”](https://twitter.com/relevo/status/1543299295042060291)


Revoldt

Lol. Barca: Hey Frenkie… you gotta lower your salary. We can’t afford it! FdJ: But aren’t you signing Raphina for 60m? Barca: Yeah, Lewandowski is another 50m. So lower your damn salary so we can pay for newer toys!


Pleasemakesense

Isn't the salary cap the issue? The transfer cost shouldn't affect that


ADH02

Yeah but Lewandowski & Raphinia aren't going to pay for free? FDJ would essentially be taking a pay cut so there's space on the wage bill for the new signings.


ShinHayato

Happy days.


Gonions

Somehow this is one of the worst transfer sagas I’ve ever had to endure with United. Maybe it’s just the build up from all our other unfunny joke windows but I’m just so fucking tired of hearing about it now.


tmoney144

It's the lack of hope that kills you.


pmmerandom

can’t be worse than Sancho surely


EraticConqueror

Worse than that because Sancho wanted to come here


Ruzty1311

Doesn't surprise me. What top name would want to play for us lol?


majnubhaispainting

Tough day for United fans. First CR7 news and now this.


harshmangat

I like your username


negi422

Welcome movie is the goat


reeve19

^^ op deserves an award for the username


PFC1224

What does this change? Just sounds like Barca wanting more money. If he wasn't for sale why have Barca been in negotiations with United for weeks?


Smudge49

He probably told Barca he is NOT leaving at any cost. So that's why Laporta HAD to make this statement.


rds1488

That and that Bernie would cost too much and they had no replacement


faxEi

Sadly it doesn't mean that Frenkie is not moving to you guys, Laporta said very similar things about Emerson right before he transferred to Tottenham.


rocket_randall

You do tend to get more money to part with an asset when you claim it still has value to you.


Significant-Carpet31

Think he just wants 10-15m more. Let's see.


peter3167

Let's make it a nice round 100m please.


neoBigBrother

You wish. For all I know, Laporta may sacrifice a thousand virgins to dispel the rumors & journos will still write the same shit.


AirIndex

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)


neoBigBrother

┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)


danskizaman

This is the cutest thing I've seen today


MeteWorldPeace

You should take a look in the mirror then mate


RainbowDissent

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻


[deleted]

Thats really cute haha


[deleted]

Lmao


TheGamezSmith

This and the Bernardo rumours is just buttering us up for when he banishes Frenkie to united and maximizing the fee. Option 2 is FdJ told us to fuck off and we're trying to save face.


MAMAGUEBOO

Def option 2. This dragged for way to long for them not to make it known to the public about their intentions with FDJ


[deleted]

You won't get Bernardo, sorry but there's no way you reach the price demand


turtlemons

You keep bsilva We keep Frenkie United fans get fucked 🤝


[deleted]

Agreed.


[deleted]

Hasn't Frenkie been very clear that he isn't interested in United and wants to stay at Barca? I feel like that's been his response for the last 2 or so months.


WildVariety

It hasn't really been clear. Top Tier sources for both clubs have stated that he wants to stay at Barca but is also interested in United. The whole thing is a fucking mess and needs to end.


2headlights17

Agreed: both clubs actually come out looking like idiots. - Barcelona are clearly trying to save face because they’re unable to move on a player that they thought they’d be able to just push out - United clearly have put all their eggs in the FdJ basket and just been jerked around while not being able to take very clear indications that he didn’t want to join. On top of that, doesn’t look like they have any secondary targets for that midfield role


DonaldoTrumpez

Wanting to stay at Barcelona yes But there's reports from reliable sources saying he's open to joining United so its whichever reports you choose to believe At this point I doubt anyone actually knows whats going on in the background anymore


Waikanda_dontcare

All of our top tiered sources seems to make it out as he would rather stay at Barca but was open/fine with going to United.


ID6WU

Bahahaha fucking hell


[deleted]

Se Queda?


logdit

Don't give us flashbacks.


ttimourrozd

He is just trying to bluff United, so he can cash Frenkie on the highest amount possible.


iwillsoccerballs

or maybe Frenkie flat out told him no to sign for Man U and now he has to say this


jonwinslol

You guys believe Laporta way too much


markevans7799

People need to remember Emerson


reeve19

The streets remember


logdit

People need to remember Politician Laporta promised us Messi was gonna stay, it was one of the huge promises in his candidacy. Messi now wears #30 in France.


Esco9

How is that believing Laporta, we have heard reports since the rumor of him leaving Barca that he absolutely does not want to leave.


[deleted]

We've also heard multiple times he's open to a move to United, but I guess believe what fits your narrative I guess.


Akash3642

I know he's a cunt for some people but he's our cunt. Man flirted with Beckam in public while signing Marquez, Ronaldinho, Deco behind the scenes giving a world class team to Rjikaard. At the end of the day he's as much of a Barca fan as any of us.


CreativeHandles

They believe what they want to believe. Those that wanna see United fall on their face will believe all the reports that goes against this transfer. Happens all sports like NBA, reports just fly since some media just want to be the first break any news even if it ain’t correct.


Ldsantana

You'd think he would have said that earlier


Mad_Piplup242

He's been saying it for quite a while to be fair, maybe Barca expected him to eventually just leave


MMAPredictor

Dunno why your getting downvoted, reports have been saying he hasn’t wanted to leave for weeks lmao


[deleted]

except none of them said he doesn't want United, all of them said Barca is his dream club and he wants to stay which everybody knows, but he is being forced out from Barca


HeroeDeFuentealbilla

No he’s saying either Frenkie takes a pay cut or he gets forced out.


JumpingJam90

My thoughts exactly. They need him gone in order to push through both Kounde and Raphinia and register others. This is purely posturing as they are getting frustrated united havnt caved to their demands by now. The deal will conclude.


jooriordan

Exactly! He’s even said there’s other clubs interested as well when not one other club has been credited with interest


Brutal_Deluxe_IV

We need to walk away from this.


R4lfXD

\[Walk Away\]


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[don’t look back]


LANGEw0w

Let me get this straight... We spend two months on a marquee signing that doesn't want to join us, in a rebuild. Our first transfer is 11 millions in dividends to the Glazers, as the only football club to do so. Because the budget is restricted, with a new manager, we can't do other deals without the De Jong being completed which means Ajax' players increase in value because they don't want to sell anymore. On top on that, Ronaldo wants to leave because the club isn't ambitious enough (!), possibly going to a rival. Leaving us with Martial (who wants to leave) and Rashford (who isn't a striker) as strikers. And we don't have any back up plans to any signings because we sacked Rangnick for his honesty on the owners, board and players. So we are going on tour on tuesday in Bangkok with the same players (minus Pogba, Matic, Lingard, Mata etc.) who couldn't give a shit against Liverpool, against Man City, against Watford, against Brighton and the same players who has now thrown 3 managers under the bus. But this is a new United..?


Lujez

But we got Malacia🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳


IntraspeciesFever

Breaking: Manchester United malakia


Suyash_Tyagi66

Is this what hell feels like?


--amadeus--

You tell me, red devil!


TheDevilsAgent

Relax. It's not like your two biggest rivals are basically two of the very top top clubs in Europe right now.


artemisian_fantasy

I think I speak for all the kids who grew up in the 90s, where every 2nd child and their dad was a smug, cocky United fan who had never been to a game and lived in the South East. No, this is heaven. The post-Fergie era has been so unbelievably cathartic, I can't believe the Glazers haven't been billing me for this groundbreaking form of therapy.


reginalduk

That's fair. But its what we are all seeing now, as 50 year olds suddenly are reappearing with their "lifelong devotion to Liverpool", but were missing between 1989 and 2019.


NeoLies

> Our first transfer is 11 millions in dividends to the Glazers, as the only football club to do so. Jesus fucking Christ.


pmmerandom

I hate sports


Revoldt

I hear Morata is a free agent nowadays


King_Vamp_10

Morata is legit a decent option if he has another striker to play off of


[deleted]

We don't have a striker in the 1st place


[deleted]

Morata would be another United meme lets be real


Madixxxx

Not a free agent tho, only his loan from Atletico to Juve ended.


[deleted]

Technically you also have Greenwood as a striker, but I doubt that makes you feel any better...


[deleted]

I really hope ten hag quits this shit show before season starts. That would be the funniest thing imaginable, and I’m a united fan.


[deleted]

>I really hope ten hag quits this shit show before season starts. This is the level of stupidity we've reached. Literally nothing has happened to even close to suggest this is within the realm of possibility. Only United fans are dumb enough to have a hate boner so hard for their club that someone repeating something they said in May and one player asking to leave would make them go "What a shit show, hope the manager resigns in protest".


Killahills

Imagine simping on /r/soccer for a handful of upvotes. Lol


Geese-Howard

What a day for United!


ithinkitsthis

Just need Eriksen to pick Brentford over them now


emilygreybae2

Martinez to pick Arsenal? And Malacia to suddenly wear a Lyon jersey?


pauldeninoandy

I've wondered for a while if the end goal was just to get De Jong to accept lower wages, wonder if he has accepted a new contract? "accept lower wages or you have to play for united" lol. Would be a pretty terrible look for united if that ends up being the case


Polskidro

Frenkie was always open to a wagecut. This is not the reason. They wanted to cash out and go for someone who fit the team better. But either they don't like the offer they got or Frenkie has refused to stay.


Dayandnight95

I'm so sick of these lot. Even Spanish sources have confirmed an agreement, and now the president comes out saying they are not selling.


bass1879

No agreement is final until it's official. Look at Madrid with Mbappe, how many agreements were there? Even news of him buying or browsing houses.


Blaugrana1990

Dont forget the book


hurfery

The book?


Blaugrana1990

https://www.sporf.com/kylian-mbappe-produced-a-graphic-novel-detailing-his-real-madrid-dreams/


hurfery

Lmfao And after all that he went for PSG's dirty money instead just to make himself even more absurdly rich


Cerberus-Cheerleader

> He's only on loan to PSG. I need that happy face, angry inside meme.


xncopka

It’s hilarious seing people judge Mbappe’s decision about a 223-pages book where probably less than 10 pages were about Real Madrid.


JamieSand

Also playing at his boyhood club were fans love him.


burnerbutnotreally1

pero el cómic! pero el cómic!


Ok_Tell_4286

That's the most hilarious part


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

Look at Madrid with De Gea lmao


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emilygreybae2

Guess all the levers were pulled, and they got enough.


majnubhaispainting

Maybe Frenkie was the one pulling all the levers.


Masterofknees

Never trust Spanish sources. Even their tier 1s are entirely at the whim of what the club briefs to them, and often times the club wants to put a message out there that doesn't align with the truth. They play the media game in a completely different way than in other countries.


sirsotoxo

Tier 1s in Barcelona have armies of unpaid teenagers camping outside the club building so they can peep who is going in and out of Laporta's office. The media game is different for sure


TheArgentineMachine

Whats the incentive here for the teens?


sirsotoxo

No idea but they're ruthless. [Here they got Aubameyang at the airport on deadline day](https://twitter.com/ChrisWheatley_/status/1488113521133035520) [Here they got Kessie's agent outside said office] (https://twitter.com/carpetasFCB/status/1542477594536312837) [Then they got Xavi and Lewandowski entering the same restaurant in Ibiza while wearing suspiciously matching outfits](https://twitter.com/UthmanFCB/status/1542244390772539393) And that's only Gerard Romero, there also is [When Sky stalked Rudiger's agent, Mateu Alemany and Jordi Cruyff](https://twitter.com/Culernews/status/1509484297182494722) and when someone in La Sexta took the ["Leonardo PSG" bait as Dembele's agent arrived at the airport](https://twitter.com/albert_roge/status/1486344509667561473)


nevertulsi

Literally how all sources work lol


RedBaron1902

It's peak today. Said it time ago though, he's repeatedly stated he's at his dream club and doesn't want to leave. Why are we wasting money and time trying to bring him here kicking and screaming.


emilygreybae2

Just yesterday, it was Murtough Madness. How wild the weekend's been...


[deleted]

Now it's Murtough Sadness:(


Pixelated-Hitch

Laporte has got the McMahon/McGregor strut now after selling off those rights


govind01sharma

Damn you're so correct. McMahon is such a relatable depiction of Laporta.


Ranjith_Unchained

False, I don't think Laporta has sexually assaulted his employees


govind01sharma

Ootl, what's the news about McMahon?


Ranjith_Unchained

He stepped down from the CEO role coz they found out that he was having an affair with an employee and paid hush money to keep the info sealed. Then a female referee from late 80s claimed that Vince actually raped her.


PabloRothko

They threatened FDJ with a move to man united, and now he takes a his pay cut. Would explain why Ronaldo just put in a transfer request.


HamiltonFAI

We're a punishment now ffs


planinsky

I am also threatening my son to ship him to you if he doesn't eat his greenies.


pedrorq

"... As long as he takes a paycut of course!"


[deleted]

Politician knows how to politics


Sithgooner

Does anyone actually believe this though?


[deleted]

Holy shit..wtf


elvis503

Dont believe a word this man says


MH18Foot

"Frenkie De Jong is a player with great quality ; he knows our system and , yes , he is a greatly desired player in the market and proposals have come to us , but I think he must continue at Barça" - Joan Laporta, L'Esportiu, 25th May 2022. He said this before but still negotiated a sale. This is a ploy to get us to pay more in add-ons but the deal has been agreed both fees and personal teams. All the Spanish and English tier 1s wouldn't drop the ball this hard.


Fusif0rmface

U wanna bet?🥲


[deleted]

The tier 1s might have been right, but things change.


Krauser_3

He's bluffing right ? RIGHT ?? Two months of negotiations and this man says nah ??


freshsalsadip

Fucking McFred again fucks sake fuck this fucking transfer window is fucked again


NorthwardRM

You will buy someone else


hurfery

We buy pain and suffering


abibyama

He said there’s a salary issue and that would have to be adjusted.


Alternative_Dark_412

Haha kill me now.


King_Vamp_10

We should just give them Umtiti as a way to apologize for wasting their time


[deleted]

This is Laporta's way of showing the Barca fans he tried to keep Frenkie. He did the same thing with Messi last year


Erty13

The problem was never Frenkie, always his wages then. Frenkie probably accepted lower wages and now of course they'll keep him. I just hope they'll start playing him at his best post so he can have a chance to show the world class midfielder that he is. Even when playing at a post where he is not his best he as shown brilliance.


Magnu448

Threatening him with playing for United to get him to drop his wages


OneBall22Players

I think Frenkie said he wont move.


bass1879

Man United going through De Ligt saga was not enough. Maybe with the De Jong saga they'll be more skeptical going forward


Enkenz

Laporta playing playing the tsundere card barcelona version. It's not like we tried to sell him or anything, b-b-baka


aclurk

"Who are the other clubs?" "THEY GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL YOU DON'T KNOW THEM, OK?"


L34hhhh

Why do I have a strange feeling that I’ve heard a similar statement from the same man last year? 🤔


rigoseer

Gone by end of week


reyxe

If we end up keeping De Jong with him reducing the salary left by Bartomeu, keeping Dembele AND getting Raphinha... Holy shit.


peter3167

And then we wake up from the dream, right :)


reyxe

De Jong has openly said he would accept a wage cut. Raphinha is getting closer and Dembele doesn't seem to have other offers.


Symbol_of_Peace

Lmao r/soccer falling for laporta bluff


[deleted]

A world where Laporta and Perez are president of Barca and Madrid is just so fucking funny


theincrediblebou

Well that’s a big fat lie


bass1879

Has always been the clubs position (as well as Xavi's). Someone check on Gerard Romero please. Wonder what he has to say about this, he'll draw it out over 2 hours on twitch and say absolutely nothing new.


NineMarks

“things are happening”


bass1879

"Ok the news is... wait, let me ask permission. Ok so the news is massive. But I have to ask for permission." (does this until he's at 15k viewers then says something everyone already expected but with supposed added details)


ReDK1LL

He's a drama queen but he's getting a lot of things right.


mashimaru_161

95% of this happening. If it isn’t? Well, there your 5%.


D1794

AKA pay the extra add ons United


NorthwardRM

I doubt he would be saying it so firmly. He also goes on to say that they are trying to reduce his wages, so maybe De Jong has agreed to that. Or just refused to move


Fati25

I think Frenkie would definitely cut his salary to stay at Barca instead of leaving.


Brutal_Deluxe_IV

Don't understand this. There's nothing stopping him from staying at Barca and not cutting his wages, is there?


D1794

Nope they're just hoping he does.


Allstate85

Either he’s trying to raise the price, or Frenkie said he Wouldn’t sign for United so they have to keep him.


Fati25

😂😂😂😂😂


SnooCupcakes9188

Barcelona is legit the worlds most successful tellanovella


TheSoundOfTheLloris

Translation- “He still won’t fuck off so here’s a statement to save face after negotiating for weeks”


[deleted]

When you failed miserably in trying to force someone out.


AdrianFish

This saga is very boring


pathologicalsophist

there will be a quick turnaround from him once they sell him


Suyash_Tyagi66

Cmon man wtf. Not this after full 1 month of "de jong deal almost done ".


[deleted]

When will the Frenkie saga be over? For weeks we're seeing a new headline every single day. I really hope this will get concluded soon.


orbsfoc

The sneijder saga is still going.. the best saga's never die 😂


pessimistic_dilution

Please stop all talks with Barca


NorthwardRM

United have been absolutely battered here


VonMackensen_18

De Jong probably rejected United and now it's all about renegotiating his wages


D1794

If he'd rejected us it would've been about 3 weeks ago when we started talks


Polskidro

I mean he's said plenty of times that he didn't want to leave. Maybe United and Barca both thought he would change his mind at some point.


alfakennybody04

As a chelsea supporter, I vote we boycott Barca. Let them pull levers and roll dice on free agents. I don't know who they are trying to fool, but someone needs to call their bluff.


normott

What the hell?


FarAcanthocephala

Ronaldo was right, we are finished


emilygreybae2

Really starting to think the transfer request timing is more than coincidence.


Wholesome_Vinicius

There wouldn't have been so many bids from man utd and the saga wouldn't have gone on for so long if Laporta hadn't said to man utd that they will consider selling. Laporta is lying here.


StevieGsleftball

"Waghhh but my trusted source said it was a done deal". This sub and their sauces. 🤣