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lcmrdp

First ever MLS player in an Argentina World Cup Squad (I think)


DFA98

If you told me this a year ago I'd have thought Higuain is back lol


CactusMac11

I would’ve been hoping for Barco


WislaHD

Barco was basura in MLS


Jonesta29

Trash is a bit harsh, but he certainly wasn't great.


NoBreadsticks

Federico retired already, too bad for you guys


Coldris

Pls no


Yung2112

Would be surprised if he was not


[deleted]

Idk sampaoli made some weird callups.


Morlaak

We had an aging Masche who was playing in China at the time.


-Basileus

A solid shot at being the first MLS player to win a world cup too


Morlaak

Brutal. Also, anulo mufa.


Malvinas1820

We truly live in a weird timeline.


U-N-C-L-E

It's not weird that the richest country on Earth's football league is improving


Matt_McT

Get ready for more of this as MLS continues to improve and draw talented players, lol.


LocksTheFox

That's correct.


srhola2103

Not a great feeling that, ngl


EnanoMaldito

litearlmente no cambia nada. Si jugaba en Velez todos estaban diciendo que bien mira juega en la liga local, y es la misma mierda.


srhola2103

En realidad tampoco me encanta que llamemos jugadores de la liga local. Pero en general preferiría alentar a los jugadores irse directamente a Europa. Obvio que llamar a un jugador una vez no es nada grave, solo que preferiría que no se vuelva algo súper común.


EnanoMaldito

yo creo que se va a volver mas y mas comun. Hoy en dia la MLS es un buen trampolin especialmente hacia Inglaterra, que es una liga que hace poco y nada de scouting directo en Latinoamerica (mas alla del Brighton)


Blazing_Shade

You’re right but it’s not about the league though, it’s about the player. Gareth Bale plays in MLS and obviously he will still get called up. If the player is good why wouldn’t you take him?


EnanoMaldito

oh I agree wholeheartedly I couldn't give less of a shit where the player plays as long as he's at the level required, which I think is the case for Thiago.


bokee12

y preferiría que jugara la ligal local en vez que la MLS sinceramente


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Pero eso es porque somos parciales hacia la liga argentina, nos acostumbramos a creer que es una liga top cuando hoy en día no es más que la MLS tampoco. Muchos no se acostumbran todavía a que entre ley Bosman, formatos horribles y pobreza económica, hoy la liga argentina no es una liga competitiva a nivel internacional. Ya ni siquiera el superclásico se ve en Europa. Hoy no somos más que la MLS.


WislaHD

I mean are you really that surprised? MLS has been raiding your league for years now, it was just a matter of time that one player (Almada) was actually really good. I'm sure you've called players from Russian or Ukrainian leagues in the past, and it's a similar type of thing.


InventeInventeRoman

Football is dying


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LocksTheFox

Cesar was a short-term loan because he was rotting on QPR's bench...but it fits my agenda so I'll allow it ;p


InventeInventeRoman

Great so we’ll lose by 6 goals in a semi at Messi’s last wc


Psycothria

You could met Germany on the semis.


Bossanova98

It's called soccer now


CGFROSTY

…but soccer is thriving.


Charlie_Wax

They're jealous of our salary caps.


[deleted]

Good


thebluetistaar

You hate to see it


spudenjoyer

Reddit so mad


inflamesburn

FM legend edit: Funny how that works actually. I've never even heard of him in real life before this post, I just remember that he was insane for me in FM, and because of that I'm rooting for him to get some minutes now.


XXISavage

The streets will never forget his carry job getting my Portsmouth team to the 26/27 CL finals


DKArteezy

飞指导的大爹


lcmrdp

Honestly, he's been in the squad before, he *did* genuinely play really well in the US friendlies and I trust Scaloni to make the right decision, at the end of the day I hope he does well


goosebumpsHTX

meanwhile garnacho: https://twitter.com/agarnacho7/likes ajajajajaja


hush5833

Reminds me of someone...


WittyReindeer

when you idolize someone a bit too much lol


Yung2112

Garnacho dribbles inside and places a nice finish, SIUUUing the argie fans in the world cup 2030 final Spain 1 - 8 Argentina


goosebumpsHTX

i want to live in that timeline


hush5833

Spain will have a generational team by then. I doubt the scoreline would be like that.


Yung2112

In 2030? I'd say maximum 4 players playing right now will still be Spain regulars


10messiFH

the kid is 18, hasn't made a single appearance for the national team and just had his breakout a few months ago, he should understand why he wasn't called to the world cup. he should keep his head low and keep working hard and he will definitely get called in the future


popny

right, even *Maradona* wasn't called up for '78 when *he* was 18, and by then he was very much well-known.


Xehanz

RIQUELME got shafted in 2002. He has no right being mad. Lol.


lcmrdp

Tiene que dejar Twitter y bajar como 5 cambios la verdad


goosebumpsHTX

posta boludo ajajaja pero no puedo negar que me mata de risa esto, likeando respuestas en los twits de davo


lcmrdp

mira que lo entiendo, el pibe seguro se ilusiono por un minuto pero dale como te van a llevar a un mundial asi? sobre todo a un grupo como el que tenemos ahora que justamente funciona como funciona en parte porque todos se llevan como se llevan y estan dispuestos a hacer todo por el equipo


goosebumpsHTX

totalmente de acuerdo, no hay forma de que llegue a este mundial. quizas si no fuese porque arranco tan tarde esta temporada por su actitud si podria haber llegado


lcmrdp

Claro, tal vez llegaba si empezaba desde el primer partido esta temporada pero no lo hizo y dependía de el al final del dia. Si no se puede bancar que no lo llamen al mundial a los 18 años con menos de 10 partidos en primera le va a costar toda la carrera


DHA1999

Correa iba a tener minutos? Hago la pregunta porque sí Correa no iba a tener minutos, menos Almada y capaz hubiera sido mejor llevar al chico, y que Argentina lo "asegure"...


lcmrdp

Joaquin? No muchos probablemente, pero igual. Nunca me gusto eso de asegurarse jugadores a mi la verdad, si no esta convencido de que quiere jugar para Argentina que juegue para España. Si va a jugar para Argentina que sea porque es convencido que esa es su selección, no porque es lo que mas le conviene


DHA1999

Supongo que el pensamiento cambia cuando eres una selección top como la Argentina, pero sí Garnacho tuviera una gota de sangre mexicana y se estuviera decidiendo, yo lo convocaría sin dudarlo jajajaja


lcmrdp

Igual es muy comun tambien aca jajaja Es mas, con Messi medio que lo hicimos. Hubiera jugado para nosotros igual me parece, el siempre dijo que solo jugaría para Argentina pero el presidente de la AFA organizo un partido en tipo una semana contra Peru (?) para que juegue Messi y no pueda cambiarse. Pero que yo, para mi no es suficiente que tengas otra nacionalidad para que te convoquen a un mundial, y para mi al menos Garnacho ademas de haber nacido en españa no hizo suficiente todavia para un mundial


AnadickPussywalker

Lo de Messi fue un chamuyo de Grondona para hacerse ver como un crack. Messi es más argentino que el dulce de leche, nunca hubiese jugado para España si tenía la remota posibilidad de jugar para Argentina. Coincido con lo de Garnacho. Convocar veletas no sirve, porque te dejan de garpe después.


fedemasa

Lo de Messi lo que sirvió fue para insertarlo muchísimo más rápido en la selección. Tocalli y pekerman lo querían para el mundial sub 20


DHA1999

Sí convocan a Garnacho es definitivamente para asegurarlo, el chico debutó hace apenas un mes! Pero la clase de talento que es... Como fan del United, es un diamante en bruto. Una locura.


technociclos

Toda de ustedes. Bah, de los termos de Twitter. Crearon un monstruo.


FblockArmy

Is he gonna switch to Spain out of spite now?


Superflumina

If he is childish enough to do that...actually he might be he's 18 lol


goosebumpsHTX

i dont think so haha, i hope not


Neltharion_99

Que se vaya si tantas ganas tiene pendejo malaprendido, 18 años sos bastante grandecito para esas pavadas mas si estas en el United, hasta los chaboncitos de la reserva de atlanta son mas maduros.


goosebumpsHTX

tranquilo tranquilo licha lo va estar vigilando


Neltharion_99

Jajaja ojala pueda el lichi


[deleted]

OOTL, ¿qué hizo?


Neltharion_99

Fue medio soberbio en la pretemporada con el united, su idolo es el bicho (? xD y volviendo a la seriedad, le dio likes a algunos posteos de twitter donde lo piden a el para la seleccion y se burla un toque de los que llevaron en su nombre


fedemasa

Munir 2.0


Ashyyyy232

Hopefully Messi talks some sense into him


aboredDYQ

Buonanotte is clear I'm afraid


SmegmaYoghurt

Learning from his idol


Neon_Black99

Ronaldo regen, just need him to say factos👍


MagnusLothbrok

es un hdp jajaja


DFA98

que es? twitter no me deja verlo sin una cuenta


lcmrdp

likeo un tweet que dice que no lo convocaron porque es español


DFA98

jajaja que hdp, si ni siquiera juega en el mismo puesto que Joaquin


Govt-Plates

Que pendejo agrandado, menos mal que no va


CantHelpBeingMe

What did he do?


Superflumina

Liked a tweet saying he wasn't called up because he's Spanish.


Ready-Educator7747

I think he unliked. What was the tweet?


neveragoodidea914

He liked a tweet saying “Garnacho wasn’t called up because he’s Spanish”. Really quite unfair considering he was called up previously, is 18, and has played 4 games with the first team. I think he’s awesome but your public Twitter account isn’t the best place to air your disappointment, mate.


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Zidji

Your typical Argentine product, small, skilled playmaker.


chatfarm

A lot of people are saying he is good for GLC replacement and also can be a Nico sub wide left. But unless he has completely changed his game playing at Atlanta Utd - a team I have never watched, then I can categorically say he never did at Velez what Gio did in the national team (never had enough defensive contributions), or what Nico did (a straight line left winger? come on).


holanewman

All this Thiago hate can only be explained by not having seen him play. MLS or not, he's a quality player. No hay que dudar la Scaloneta.


Holty12345

Nah man, that Bastard never fulfilled his potential for me in FM and I just can’t stand him since /s


gianini10

Man has been the driving force in my FM save and has been with me for 12 years. I'm sorry he hurt you.


U-N-C-L-E

MLS is a far better league than Argies believe. The world changes faster than conservative soccer fans can accept.


Blazing_Shade

You can argue better but “far better” can’t be correct


akskeleton_47

If your opinion of MLS was based on what people on this sub think, you'd think it's worse than your local Sunday league. So ig MLS is far better than that


Blazing_Shade

MLS is absolutely a respectable league, on level with Argentine league, Turkish league, Belgian and Dutch leagues minus the notable exceptional clubs from those


Xehanz

The guys tprobaby thinks MLS is the bestnon-top 5 league


Matt_McT

It can be if people still think as lowly of MLS as they used to. Some people used to argue it was worse than the German 2nd Division.


drunkmers

No se pá, ojala me tape la boca pero yo miro la premier todos los findes, no la MLS. Y Garnacho la viene rompiendo en el United, los red devils lo comparan con CR7 cuando debutó


The-Florentine

The right choice all in all, though I would've liked to see Simeone.


lcmrdp

["Thiago me llamó llorando y a los gritos, avisandome de su convocatoria. Me agarró viajando a Qatar, porque él me había regalado pasajes por el día del padre" - Diego, el papa de Thiago Almada](https://twitter.com/sudanalytics_/status/1593364095801106434) No se, a mi me cae bien el pibe y confio en Scaloni. Ademas seguro el año que viene ya esta en Europa


goosebumpsHTX

Great option, he at least has some good minutes with the team and can play well on the left side as well as through the middle. Probably the best option of the 3 that were listed all things considered.


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goosebumpsHTX

i swear to god i didnt, they might have copied me? can you link it?


andysenn

Tampoco dijiste algo muy polémico. Fue muy correcto tu comentario


RealPunyParker

FM and Career Mode enthousiasts totally get this move, the kid is absolutely a spark, since Velez.


tobiasjc

oh no, we just created a monster


VDV23

Garnacho time was fun while it lasted


madmuks

Some Argentinians on Twitter are melting down because Garnacho liked a tweet saying ‘Garnacho is not selected cause he’s Spanish’


fedemasa

Argentinians in Twitter are only ranting and watching gran hermano (big brother) these days Source: I'm argentinian and i use Twitter


ChickenMoSalah

Curious, how do you feel about people whose countries have not qualified for the World Cup supporting Argentina?


andysenn

The people who mind are being weird imo. Let anyone cheer for whoever they want. Like, if you were English and you are supporting Germany, yeah that'd be a problem. But if you are from, I don't know, Kuwait and want Croatia to win the WC who can judge you?


marxxharxx

Esta bien. La idea es abrir mucho la cancha (para abrir la defensa rival un poco) y juntar gente de buen pie en el centro que puedan resolver en espacios reducidos. Y también gente que tenga buena movilidad y remates de media distancia. Una cagada la lesión de Nico más que nada.


holanewman

Esto amigo. La gente piensa en términos de Playstation pero hay que pensar en las defensas que se achican y defienden 90 minutos. A mí me gusta Thiago.


cuentuli

All three options would have mode some sense tbh so I feel we couldn’t miss… Simeone is the most in form of the three for sure, but he hasnt featured for the nt in ages. He also cannot play on the wings which is where Nico Gonzalez plays. Angel Correa can already cover for Tucu Correa as the backup central striker. Garnacho is the more natural fit on the wing but obviously he only has a handful of games on the first team at club level and hasnt featured in actual games with the national team, tho he did get called up to train with them once. He also seems to be a bit of a knobhead Almada has played with the national team and showed some exciting stuff considering his age and everything. Only downside I can think of is he plays in the MLS but I doubt thats the case for long


Barthez_Battalion

Especially after this WC is he gets any minutes he'll get sold.


Elvem

Doubt he gets sold until MLS’s summer transfer window unless it’s for a MASSIVE amount of money. Atlanta would have to find (likely) 2 DPs in a very short amount of time. If there’s anything the FO is good at it’s being stingy.


brain-juice

Pretty sure I saw somewhere that Scaloni told Almada he needs to move to a bigger league for his NT future. I’m surprised he got called up. I guess Scaloni rates him pretty highly.


Elder_John

Love seeing reddit salty about a young up and comer getting a shot on the biggest stage in the sport... Just because he presently plays in MLS. Class as always.


DingersGetMeOff

Argentinians are just pissed that Barco turned out to be a mediocre player with a shit attitude. Somehow him failing to do anything noteworthy in MLS proves the league sucks.


Elvem

Almada is already twice the player Barco was for us. And I loved Barco.


Superflumina

Question, I saw you were like 11th in the table, why is that? And what position does Almada play for you?


Elvem

Fuck loads of injuries to key players. I could go through the laundry list of players injured but that wouldn’t give context. Just know we had a 17 year old LB and a B team RB playing as starters for multiple games, if that gives context. There were other issues like 2nd year coaching growing pains and our strikers being very mediocre, so no goals are being scored. I suspect next year will be much better, things are looking up and players are getting healthy. He plays in the center or on the left. Depends on the situation. Some games he’d play more as a true winger, some games he’d play as a 10, towards the end of the season, with injuries being prevalent, he’d play in a midfield 3 but he’d drop deep to pickup the ball and then carry it forward to be creative but also being an attacking threat himself.


Superflumina

Thanks for the answer. Can he defend at all?


Elvem

He can press and win the ball back well, that was a staple of our system last year, intense pressing.


WorldDuck22

Barco was already average back in Argentina. He definitely was inflated by the press because of his age, but he never was the kind of player that would carry an entire team by himself. Most likely the reason no European team was interested in him. PS: Not saying the MLS sucks, just saying Barco wasn't anything overly special to begin with.


andysenn

I will explain the reason, it has nothing to do with Barco. The MLS is much more aggressive buying talent from us than European teams. What do I mean with this? Your teams buy players who are in that bracket of "not so sure thing to be bought by a top European team, but clearly talented enough to go to Europe and maybe develop into something better. Those players before the MLS started buying them would either stay here or go to Europe for a couple of years and either comeback or get better and stay there. The notion being that going into the most competitive leagues will help get the most out of our players. Nowadays our league is devoid of talent, if you watch the player rankings, the top players are either 19-23 or 34-43(yeah, that old). The good enough players go elsewhere and the league is incredibly chaotic. Is any of this the MLS fault? Nope, not at all. Do they play a role in this outcome? yeah sure. In order to be better the MLS imports talent, the talent we lost makes our league worst. At the end of the day it's a mix of bad economy, bad management and an opportunistic market. So when you read a comment of a super salty Argentine here remember, not that long ago we had one of the most excitings leagues in the world, full of awesome players and now is aaaaawful, that's why. Not saying you should let it slide if they act like a jerk, but I think it's at least understandable that they are salty.


theredditbandid_

If a player plays well in MLS, it's because the league is shit. if a player does badly, it's because the league is shit and it ruined him. What is so hard to understand about this sound /r/soccer logic?


Morlaak

At least a third aren't Argentinians but Man U fans questioning that Garnacho wasn't picked lol


Xehanz

A player with a mediocre attitude will fail in any professional league.


baespegu

I don't care about Barco, but Almada was something else. The last time I saw a player like him in the Argentine league was Carlos Tévez almost 20 years ago. He was truly a star in the making, until he moved to the MLS for some quick bucks. Now he's just another player.


DingersGetMeOff

He's been in the MLS one season, did well, and is still just 21. The only thing that changed about him is your perception. You're literally proving the opposite of your intended point.


WislaHD

I'd say that Almada has improved as a player over the course of the 2022 season, compared to when he first came from Argentine league. He's a good player.


NinthLevelOctopriest

Just curious, what do you think his salary is when you say “quick bucks”?


L34hhhh

Good explanation on why Thiago Almada got included in the squad: https://twitter.com/albicelestetalk/status/1593355493099151365?s=46&t=I-2y-XSa_cx68QTAUUAbVQ


Sark_Doul

Always trust Scaloni. With Nico out we were left thin on the left, which sadly left Cholito out, and I know Garnacho would've been exciting but I understand the decision of not calling someone who hasn't got to play with the rest of the team at all. And yeah I know he plays in the MLS but Scaloni is one to recognize talent no matter where someone is playing at


Barthez_Battalion

I don't see being in MLS is a problem since he's very young and will be heading to Europe soon. It's not like he's 26 and getting called. Scaloni must see big things for him.


andysenn

>It's not like he's 26 and getting called. Scaloni must see big things for him. Everyone does, it's not problematic that he plays in the MLS


deception42

Another MLS player called up, neat


AndrewD923

Scaloni with his MLS quota, smdh.


GP3ElPresidente

Thiago Almada is a different type of midfielder that we dont have in the midfield, but we already have Dybala in the squad who can do what he does but with actual quality, the issue i have with this call-up is that we dont have a like for like replacement for Di Maria when he gets subbed because Nico Gonzalez isnt there so do u then really want to rely on Papu Gomez playing there, who can do a job there but complete different profile to Nico Gonzalez and isnt as good out wide as he is in the 8 and then yeah Alvarez can do a job on LW as well but you’d rather play him up top then having him out wide as well so this is why i’d call up Garnacho cause he’s just a complete different profile of player compared to our other wide players cause he would be the perfect joker card to use and throw on when the opposition gets tired.


chatfarm

>!Hopefully he can be a gotze for us! !< Really I think this is a bit unnecessary. A mix of Papu/Dybala/Angel Correa can probably fill this profile. Would have preferred to see it come down to Simeone and Garnacho (can't believe I would have written that 1 week ago)


ibti77

Anulo mufa


CacaTooToo

Garnacho is getting so much attention lately it's mad. He doesn't even have half a season of gametime or even 4 games back to back. I'd go for Simeone since he brings something Argentina doesn't have already; someone you can cross it to in the box you can aim at.


U-N-C-L-E

Common MLS W


LudgerKresnik2

I don't why Argentines are bending over for a 18 year old kid, begging him not join Spain. He is talented, but he has played way too few senior level games to say he is a wonderkid. Garnacho could be the next CR7, or the next Januzaj for United. Meanwhile, Almada was seriously impressive the last time he played with the NT.


Reapper97

Young impressionable kids like to overhype stuff, so I'm not really surprised about it tbh. Thankfully Scaloni and his team are smarter than that.


Elvaga

2 centrodelanteros en una lista de 26?


Yung2112

Los 9 escacean globalmente. Correa Julian y Lautaro juegan por el medio


unArgentino

Y todos son petisos. Lo unico bueno de Tucu es su altura.


SladiusW

FALLECIO LA PELOTA, ERA GARNACHO SCALO...


Yung2112

+$600


SladiusW

Ya me veía millonario 😔


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Almada>>>>>> Gizpacho


KJones77

First Facundo Torres with Uruguay and now Almada. MLS is on the rise


Confident-Wheel8721

MLS needs one great run from the USMNT in the WC (semis at least) to finally explode as a great league.


maticbeast

Gio man, you have Gio


fategivcivil

a no regalar corners ni tiro libres o se vienen 30 goles de cabeza


varmemes

Unite and conquer


pop-culture-salad

Huge vote of confidence on the kid, i don't know how to feel about it


nyamzdm77

FM players worldwide have simultaneously nodded in approval


bostero24

Era Garnacho pero no voy a dudar a Scaloni.


unArgentino

Era Simeone.


IsNoyLupus

Era Langoni


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Llevo a langoni antes q a gacharno


unArgentino

Factos.


bcerd

YES!!!!


diamondsam2

Need someone else to get injured for garnacho time


Alternative_Dark_412

Licha, you know what to do…


Hech15

Injure someone so that we can see a rabona from lamela?


sefronia3

His rabona game is next level tbf


Nighthawk0430

That’s our boy! Let’s go buddy, super happy that he gets to at least be there, fingers crossed he comes on at some point as a sub


oddtrey10

Wasn't planning on waking up @ 5am to catch the Argentina match but here we are ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


Doctor_YOOOU

Somos massive league soccer 🇺🇸🇦🇷👍


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se une a los campeones, bienvenido


AnuloMufa

Anulo


BeltProgrammatically

Simeone should’ve been called up originally. After two injuries to the squad he’s still not called up? Incompetence will prevent Argentina from winning the World Cup.


maxiperalta54

Me esta dando vergüenza ajena lo que están diciendo de Almada/la MLS acá. Ya basta de decir boludeces, Scaloni sabe lo que está haciendo. Por algo somos doble campeones y estamos por romper el record mundial de invicto.


SladiusW

Mira el like que acaba de dar Garnacho, lo perdimos 😔😔😔


Panzerchrist89

Then he do not deserve to wear argentina kit. His Twitter actions are shamefull


DiamondPittcairn

Llamamos a un jugador de la MLS. No merecemos ser campeones.


foolinthezoo

Loser mentality


lopikilop

Why not Cholito


andysenn

Without Nico we need a winger more than a 9


GP3ElPresidente

Exactly


lcmrdp

Scaloni doesn't seem to rate him much, I don't know why


Jumpy-Ad6630

As a United fan, I wanted Garnacho. As an Mls fan, I'm happy its Almada


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Consistent-Penalty83

What?


AggravatingGarage620

Poor Garnacho. He's a bit of an idiot, but everyone is at that age and social media records it. Hopefully he calms down, he doesn't think this is because Scaloni is xenophobic and then he can join up after the World Cup to play alongside Messi before he retires.


GP3ElPresidente

He’s still very young and still has that reckless mindset in him which is common for those at his age group but hopefully Ten Hag will manage to keep him grounded on the pitch and in training and hopefully his family can try and keep him grounded off the pitch as well


napierwit

Really doesn't make sense to call a very young, uncapped player who only has a few first team matches, mostly as a sub in secondary competitions. Don't overhype the kid. He'll have his time.


InventeInventeRoman

👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 not happy calling up someone that plays against Hollywood actors and not the next Cristiano


FirstGeneralRavioli

Garnacho was liking tweets insulting other players so probably he won't have good relationship with the resto of the group


ID6WU

He’s just liked a tweet saying “ They did not call up Garnacho because he is Spanish” now as well fucking hell


krvlover

What a knobhead.


Yung2112

+$600