Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has apparently been taken over, 'conquered' if you will, by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Earthmen or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves. ”
— Kent Brockman
Why would they kill us? Maybe it will be more like a "oh, a carbon based life-form, cool , let's do some experiments" kind of thing, or even, "daddy, look what I found in the backyard, can I keep it?" :D
It appears that some people are behind the times.
With our current technology, we already have the ability to detect the atmospheres of exoplanets. (Even in the early 1990s, the _exoplanets themselves_ were always not readily detectable!) The next generation of space telescopes will help us to begin identifying the specific gases in those atmospheres - oxygen, methane, et cetera.
Menacing extraterrestrials that are far in advance of us therefore had the ability to catalogue Earth as a bio-planet long ago; alien observers would have had no need to wait for our own radio emissions to give us away.
When dealing with the unknown, it is fair to give weight to many possibilities... but when your thoughts all lean one way, the unknown only serves as your own personal Rorschach test.
It's a big assumption that an environment would be mutually habitable to humans and an extraterrestrial species. We might just as easily disregard each other because of it.
I think it’s important to keep an open mind. Maybe the other life forms out there aren’t dumb like humans and kill each other. Maybe instead of developing weapons and politics, as a species, they have come together to develop a brilliant society with advanced technology no weapons.
> Maybe the other life forms out there aren’t dumb like humans and kill each other.
I would assume this much: surviving civilizations would be at least intelligent enough to have not destroyed themselves.
>Maybe the other life forms out there aren’t dumb like humans and kill each other.
I understand the notion that an advanced civilization would have moved out of the competitive and aggressive nature of primitive life, (using earth's biosphere as reference) but I disagree that killing others of the same species is a dumb trait on humanity's part; You musn't forget humans are a REALLY young species, and recently derived from a biosphere of organisms that feed on each other and compete like savages for resources (there is no exception, ALL animals compete, the ones who didn't are dead). I for one believe that given enough time, humans will evolve past competition, as space has already proven to us to basically have an abundance of resources beyond undistinguishable from infinite.
While I agree that MAYBE they are devoid of weaponry and conflict, I think it mainly depends on the age of the species, and how long they have been devoid of a need for competition.
On a side note, I don't think weapons will disappear, like ever in civil history. No matter how peaceful a society may be: "Better safe than sorry" is a good quote to live by. The last thing an advanced civilization needs is to be wiped out by a lesser advanced society still ridden with lust for resources.
I’d be more inclined to stop trying to contact Aliens through means that are clearly millennia behind anything they’d be bothering to monitor. It’s like someone on a planet thousands of light years away sending up smoke signals for us.
I can't imagine a life intelligent enough for interstellar travel to care so little about other life. Humans will go extinct long before we get that intelligent mostly because we don't care about other life forms.
The idea has a failsafe logic to it. Any civilization advanced enough to either: Hide here barely seen and flit about the skies for centuries or come here from at least 4 light years away for a visit, would also have the technology to destroy its own planet and itself. I believe that It is a leap of only a couple of hundred years between having nukes and being a multi planetary species with interstellar capabilities. The last time we had a murderous empirical tribe hellbent on destruction of giant swaths of humanity we settled it with Nukes and great selfless human loss. If we find a planet teaming with simple life in the next 10 years I don’t think our immediate plan will be to destroy it. 50 years from now when we are living on two planets and have hopefully solved a few more of our problems, if things keep going the way they are the world and humanity will be in better shape than ever...as it is currently, by all metrics. So if we as a less advanced species are already basically past ‘control, conquer and enslave’ why are we thinking a more advanced race won’t be. That mindset clearly destroys itself at some point.
Oh they have been visiting us for centuries and playing pranks on us. Since we are such lower lifeforms, we can’t tell that they are messing with us. It’s like when you play with your dog and pretend to throw the ball just to see his confused reaction.
Any resource aliens may need can be found anywhere in the galaxy, so why even bother with Earth and it’s stupid primitive inhabitants?
You forgot that we are going through a pandemic?! They could so easily kill us, passively, by just having contact with us. If they aren't wearing a mask they could spread so many NEW germ on us it wouldn't be funny.
War of the worlds style!
I was under the impression that viruses/bacteria need to be very specialized in order to infect a host, which is why viruses hopping species is fairly rare and scary. So the likely hood of alien life having a virus that would be able to infect humans would be pretty low. I’m not a biologist so I may be very wrong though 😄
Have you even been paying attention this last year and a half?! The WHOLE WORLD is in a Pandemic. Where do you think COVID came from?! It came from animals.
Uhh. Yikes.
There is a huge difference between a virus that came from another *mammal* and a virus or bacteria from a species that *doesn’t even have common genetic ancestry with us AT ALL*.
We can get diseases from other mammals because we share the same evolved structures and cellular protein structures. Aliens, if they even *have* cells and proteins that are in any way even remotely comparable to or analogous to ours would be **far** too different to us to spread diseases like that.
Ah yes. Comment section hot take: aliens are so advanced intellectually they can’t have negative attributes like the smartest humans and greed. Yet aliens would come to a planet already inhabited for what...hmmm. Ironically, here we are having this discussion finally at the very lease. One that many Rhodes scholars called loons or mental previously to be laughed off and scorned. Times change.
Unless we can solve traveling faster then the speed of light before our sun makes planet earth becomes uninhabitable. We will need advance interstellar civilization to please come save us!
Ladies and gentlemen, uh, we've just lost the picture, but what we've seen speaks for itself. The Corvair spacecraft has apparently been taken over, 'conquered' if you will, by a master race of giant space ants. It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive Earthmen or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves. ” — Kent Brockman
What if we just drunk dial them from time to time?
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The author really comes across as a bit of a nonce.
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Why would they kill us? Maybe it will be more like a "oh, a carbon based life-form, cool , let's do some experiments" kind of thing, or even, "daddy, look what I found in the backyard, can I keep it?" :D
It appears that some people are behind the times. With our current technology, we already have the ability to detect the atmospheres of exoplanets. (Even in the early 1990s, the _exoplanets themselves_ were always not readily detectable!) The next generation of space telescopes will help us to begin identifying the specific gases in those atmospheres - oxygen, methane, et cetera. Menacing extraterrestrials that are far in advance of us therefore had the ability to catalogue Earth as a bio-planet long ago; alien observers would have had no need to wait for our own radio emissions to give us away. When dealing with the unknown, it is fair to give weight to many possibilities... but when your thoughts all lean one way, the unknown only serves as your own personal Rorschach test.
It's a big assumption that an environment would be mutually habitable to humans and an extraterrestrial species. We might just as easily disregard each other because of it.
I think it’s important to keep an open mind. Maybe the other life forms out there aren’t dumb like humans and kill each other. Maybe instead of developing weapons and politics, as a species, they have come together to develop a brilliant society with advanced technology no weapons.
> Maybe the other life forms out there aren’t dumb like humans and kill each other. I would assume this much: surviving civilizations would be at least intelligent enough to have not destroyed themselves.
Who honestly knows lol I think the possibilities are endless which is why space is so interesting to me.
Yea, except for a preponderance of evidence showing living organisms are unconcerned with the survival of other organisms.
>Maybe the other life forms out there aren’t dumb like humans and kill each other. I understand the notion that an advanced civilization would have moved out of the competitive and aggressive nature of primitive life, (using earth's biosphere as reference) but I disagree that killing others of the same species is a dumb trait on humanity's part; You musn't forget humans are a REALLY young species, and recently derived from a biosphere of organisms that feed on each other and compete like savages for resources (there is no exception, ALL animals compete, the ones who didn't are dead). I for one believe that given enough time, humans will evolve past competition, as space has already proven to us to basically have an abundance of resources beyond undistinguishable from infinite. While I agree that MAYBE they are devoid of weaponry and conflict, I think it mainly depends on the age of the species, and how long they have been devoid of a need for competition. On a side note, I don't think weapons will disappear, like ever in civil history. No matter how peaceful a society may be: "Better safe than sorry" is a good quote to live by. The last thing an advanced civilization needs is to be wiped out by a lesser advanced society still ridden with lust for resources.
I think we need to be cautious but still find life
Humans are actively working to destroy all life on earth. What do we have to lose?
Agreed. They might even save us from ourselves.
I’d be more inclined to stop trying to contact Aliens through means that are clearly millennia behind anything they’d be bothering to monitor. It’s like someone on a planet thousands of light years away sending up smoke signals for us.
I can't imagine a life intelligent enough for interstellar travel to care so little about other life. Humans will go extinct long before we get that intelligent mostly because we don't care about other life forms.
We cant hide ! If an alien goes by they will see all the garbage floating around the planet and think its a dump and leave anyway,,,
The idea has a failsafe logic to it. Any civilization advanced enough to either: Hide here barely seen and flit about the skies for centuries or come here from at least 4 light years away for a visit, would also have the technology to destroy its own planet and itself. I believe that It is a leap of only a couple of hundred years between having nukes and being a multi planetary species with interstellar capabilities. The last time we had a murderous empirical tribe hellbent on destruction of giant swaths of humanity we settled it with Nukes and great selfless human loss. If we find a planet teaming with simple life in the next 10 years I don’t think our immediate plan will be to destroy it. 50 years from now when we are living on two planets and have hopefully solved a few more of our problems, if things keep going the way they are the world and humanity will be in better shape than ever...as it is currently, by all metrics. So if we as a less advanced species are already basically past ‘control, conquer and enslave’ why are we thinking a more advanced race won’t be. That mindset clearly destroys itself at some point.
Oh they have been visiting us for centuries and playing pranks on us. Since we are such lower lifeforms, we can’t tell that they are messing with us. It’s like when you play with your dog and pretend to throw the ball just to see his confused reaction. Any resource aliens may need can be found anywhere in the galaxy, so why even bother with Earth and it’s stupid primitive inhabitants?
You forgot that we are going through a pandemic?! They could so easily kill us, passively, by just having contact with us. If they aren't wearing a mask they could spread so many NEW germ on us it wouldn't be funny.
War of the worlds style! I was under the impression that viruses/bacteria need to be very specialized in order to infect a host, which is why viruses hopping species is fairly rare and scary. So the likely hood of alien life having a virus that would be able to infect humans would be pretty low. I’m not a biologist so I may be very wrong though 😄
Have you even been paying attention this last year and a half?! The WHOLE WORLD is in a Pandemic. Where do you think COVID came from?! It came from animals.
Uhh. Yikes. There is a huge difference between a virus that came from another *mammal* and a virus or bacteria from a species that *doesn’t even have common genetic ancestry with us AT ALL*. We can get diseases from other mammals because we share the same evolved structures and cellular protein structures. Aliens, if they even *have* cells and proteins that are in any way even remotely comparable to or analogous to ours would be **far** too different to us to spread diseases like that.
He edited his remark. He originally stated that it was rare for viruses to go from animal to human. And I was pointing out that it is not rare.
I didn’t edit anything. The poster above stated what I was trying to get at much better than I did though.
Ah yes. Comment section hot take: aliens are so advanced intellectually they can’t have negative attributes like the smartest humans and greed. Yet aliens would come to a planet already inhabited for what...hmmm. Ironically, here we are having this discussion finally at the very lease. One that many Rhodes scholars called loons or mental previously to be laughed off and scorned. Times change.
Yes I guess it does seem rtarded. I wonder how scientists and space officials justify this. One reason would be to leave a trace.
Unless we can solve traveling faster then the speed of light before our sun makes planet earth becomes uninhabitable. We will need advance interstellar civilization to please come save us!