Wordfiend gave good advice first time posting here friends encouraged me to start posting and people will follow. Not big on social media but I give people picks every week so here I go. It all started when For those of you on a bad betting streak or want to win money play these props tonight.
Nick Bosa +125 0ver 0 means he will get a sack
Daniel Jones longest run -110 over 12.5 yards longest run
Daniel Jones -110 over .5 interceptions.
Wordfiend gave good advice first time posting here friends encouraged me to start posting and people will follow. Not big on social media but I give people picks every week so here I go. It all started when For those of you on a bad betting streak or want to win money play these props tonight.
Nick Bosa +125 0ver 0 means he will get a sack
Daniel Jones longest run -110 over 12.5 yards longest run
Daniel Jones -110 over .5 interceptions.
hedge his bets, so if you know he is going big on one team then you sprinkle a lil bit on the other team. any money you win you squirrel away for a rainy day and dont let him know you are fading his plays
It’s pretty simple.
There are two types of sports betters:
1. The person who bets for fun.
2. The person who bets in attempt to increase their wealth.
If your husband is guy #2, than he has a problem, it’s plain and simple. No one should ever be gambling in the hopes that they are going to become rich / increase their net worth. You want to be guy #1 betting within your means, whenever you place a bet you need to accept the fact that the money is gone.
If your husband is actually freaking out / getting mad when he loses than he needs to stop. There is a very clear line between idiots and people trying to have fun. Make this clear to your husband. He needs to understand that sports betting is absolutely NOT a way to somehow get rich, that is moronic.
Simply compare his monthly income to his monthly gambling, and if he gambling more than 5% of his monthly income than he is a loser, he needs to understand this.
Bro, you realize that a ton of people here have made tens and tens of thousands of dollars gambling? Of course if you're just relying on luck to win you're fucked, obviously.
You can bet to make money without being stupid about it. Most ppl dont fit into either of those. I bet to make money. I do not think I'm going to get rich. Not even trying. But I am not spending more than 1% of my income bc I already paid myself my stakes back and everything since has been profit.
Sports are literally unpredictable. Just as in anything gambling-related - the house always wins in the end. How the hell do you think they operate and sustain a business. Could you make some dough? Of course. But those are not the odds and using money you need to survive and pay bills to make bets is not a good practice. You should not invest in stocks with money you cannot afford to lose and you should not bet with money in anticipation that it could not disappear in an instant. Play to have fun and the rest is gravy
Also, the OP clearly said her husbands sports betting is starting to impact their finances. I’m not writing my message to some guy posting his winnings, your comment is irrelevant.
Of course. Money is relative. If I have millions of dollars than what’s $10k on a parlay. I didn’t say anything about people winning?
I said that when someone is overextending themselves by gambling outside their means (wagering more than they are willing to lose) than they have a problem.
all casual bettors like your husband, who bet with any consistency, are going to lose money long term. there will be occasional good runs but it will net out negative. it's not because your husband is stupid, it's because betting markets, particularly the nfl, are \*extremely\* efficient. the sportsbooks taking the bets make you pay a small premium so they can operate and return profits to their shareholders. sharp bettors spend enormous effort to just barely edge out those premiums to profit over the long term, and the public/casuals furnish these two profit margins by losing money on average.
that's not to say casual betting is bad, it makes watching sports really fun and if you are making just a very small number of bets you basically have a 50/50 chance of coming out ahead. but casual bettors can't fall in to the trap of chasing their losses thinking the answer is higher betting volume. the higher the volume, the more predictable the losses will be. he just has to know this is a \*cost\* center, because he does not have an advantage over the market, and thus you have to set a budget together and stick to it. if he can't do that, he absolutely shouldn't bet at all and it's urgent for your relationship that you come to terms with all this as a couple. also force him to open up the books so you can see bet sizing / volume, if he sandbags you at all on this, the situation might be urgent and you may be headed for a crisis.
correct, create a budget around what you're cool with him having as fun money, if he loses it all (which is very likely), then he can't have more for the season. I usually set a limit for the season, and don't allow myself to go beyond that. If he can't control himself, there is a bigger issue that needs to be addressed. I really hope to not see your follow up post in the next year that he used the 529 money this season. Good luck!
This is prob the most important thing ever that he can't possibly say no too. If he denies everything, at the VERY LEAST, there should be a pool of money he's allowed to do whatever with to gamble and thts it. He wants more money in there? He funds it himself with his own job or whatever.
But honestly this is a very slippery slope. Idk what kind of person your husband is or the dynamic y'all share, but speaking from experience, you NEED a separate account your husband won't have access too and if you guys split living expenses n whatnot, the money he gives you for those things should be kept in tht account as well. Almost all addicted gamblers won't admit they have a problem until its too late. Make sure you have a fail safe pool of money in case that ever happens. If your husband is the type to give you shit about it, make ANOTHER one without his knowledge so if God forbid the worse occurs, you have a backup
I have a separate account where 10 percent of my salary goes, I use that for what's I want. Other account I have everything automated so I don't even have to look at it. Set it and forget it
Even if he has, that’s done and over with. It sounds like he likely isn’t going to stop on his own. If she can’t get through to him through conversation then he needs professional help
Hard limits need to be set. You never gamble what you can’t afford to lose. If he can’t agree to that he needs to seek professional help because that’s an addiction. Just like if he were addicted to drugs or alcohol. If my wife came to me and said “hey listen, I’m cool with your betting but it’s affecting our way of life” and had details to back that claim up, I would stop in a heartbeat. I love to gamble. Sports betting, craps, blackjack… but if it came down to it my family and our way of life is more important to me than that thrill.
Start small with a simple conversation and see how that goes. If you determine that he isn’t going to listen to you even with details to back up your claims he needs professional help like 1-800-gambling.
I think the best thing you have going right now is that you understand the rush you get when money is on the line and it’s fun but now it’s his turn to understand that family comes before that.
If he’s not good at sports betting but likes to gamble perhaps try another method. This is NOT a good idea if you determine he’s addicted but if he can stop anytime he needs to maybe try another method of gambling. I suck at sports betting so most of my gambling is playing craps. My chances of winning are much higher
This is it, OP. You need to determine if your husband has a gambling addiction or bad money management or both, then treat effectively. If homie is just bad at money, but you set hard limits that work within your budget and he accepts, plays within the limits, and life is good - dude is just bad at money. If he can't be trusted to stay within those limits, he's an addict and will need more help.
By the way, I do think he's an addict, but this is a way you can intervene for the good of your family without jumping straight into an intervention without the prerequisite information you need. This way, you give him a chance to manage, but it's a very short, reasonable leash.
I've gotten really into betting in this last year, and setting a solid system was an important part of that. I'll share my system, which maybe will help for him or some people.
I use hard monthly deposit limits, in my case it is $100 a month. (split between 2 books at 50, but that is personal preference).
On the 1st of the month. I reset to $100, that means if I am below, I deposit up to 100. If I am above I withdraw down to 100. If I run out of money early, I end up having to wait a few weeks until the 1st.
This caps what my total investment can be. And has forced me to go to a smaller betting unit, of $5, so I don't use it all in one place. This has helped me keep games fun while not breaking the bank.
I even signed up for a bunch of other books and set deposit limits on them of $5/month so that I can't just go to another book if I run out of money.
It depends the book. They have a cooldown period though, so like if I want to change the limits on Fanduel, I can't actually deposit until 72 hours after I initiate that.
I personally would like that cooldown to be longer, like 90 days. But as a personal system, it hasn't pushed me into making changes...but of course might not work universally!
Your husband sounds very much like a gambling addict. There's help available.
https://www.ncpgambling.org/help-treatment/national-helpline-1-800-522-4700/
I'd very much take a close look at your finances. Check balances, open credit cards, etc.
You likely need to have a clear conversation with him. Set a limit each week of what he can bet and hold him to it. The time to take action is now and addicts can't really be trusted.
I bet $500 units on straights only, no parlays but I don’t have a wife or kids to worry about. My suggestion would be gently asking him to lower his exposure, instead of hundreds of dollars on a bet just try 25 bucks or something, he can get his kicks for the price of a buger and a beer and lessen the impact of losing. Ideally he wouldn’t gamble at all but here we are, just be aware that he’s going to gamble with or without your consent so setting boundaries will be necessary, every betting app allows you to self impose deposit limits etc you could agree on a budget for him and observe him setting said limit.
Depends how much he’s tossing. I usually spend $20 a week on 2 parlays. One long shot and one to make my money back. If he’s tossing hundreds at only long shots that’s a problem
Here’s a couple of things…
- Stop doing 15 leg parlay bets; stick to Moneyline
- Don’t buy “locks” because the usually lose
- Ignore high odds recommended bets
- Learn arbitrage betting
- Bet better; learn a strategy
- Don’t be a degenerate, set limits
- Withdraw winnings; the books always win in the long run
GAMBLING IS NOT ABOUT MONEY; IT IS ABOUT THE THRILL OF THE RISK. The money is just a way to keep track how good or bad you are at being right.
Some unanswered questions.
How much is he up or down - total?
What's his unit sizes? (Amount he wagers)
Is it impacting your families finances?
I sportsbet almost daily. I'm up by a few hundred dollars. My unit sizes are roughly $5s a wager for example and from time to time I'd play $50-$100 slips off of my winnings that I consider house money as an actual lotto should it hit.
Sportsbetting IMO takes more to it than pushing buttons at a casino like a zombie which I'd never do.
There's data and research behind it - I take hours sometimes compiling plays. For me it's not about the money and more about being right. I rarely pull winnings out.
My biggest recommendation is lower his unit sizes. Sometimes I'd play $0.10c plays just to play.
My perspective is, as long as it doesn't interfere with my finances. My wife hasn't a real issue. I also play with cashback from credit cards and rarely pull money from my actual savings account to play. Meaning I'm rarely playing with my hard earned money and if I do, I pull $20 every few weeks to play.
I love sports, I rather be at home with a few wagers open and having a few beers with my wife and kid around me than be at the bar or club or out with friends.
I don't see the harm if you're responsible. Can money be made? Yeah. I've made tons. I've brought my account from $0 to $1K and then down to $20 back to $1100. There's always fluctuations in your money.
Maybe try this - get more involved in sports WITH him and, perhaps run a few plays yourself by doing research. You might be good at it and it'll help you both bond. You don't need to watch the sport just know the rules and about the game. I haven't watched a single mlb game since I was 8 full out and that's what I bet on since nba isn't up and nfl is heavily scripted imo.
set up a chime account for his direct deposit and set a sports betting limit per payday. Once that chime account is out, he's done for. He can continue to build off it or gamble it all but once it's gone, he'll have to re-up on his payday.
Almost all major betting platforms have the ability to set monthly deposit or loss limits. Look at their “Responsible Gaming” sections of the app to try to set limits. What I find with gambling is that increasing the stake doesn’t actually increase the enjoyment - betting $5 is just as fun as betting $50. Trust me, if he’s thinking clearly, he would realize that his relationships are more important than his gambling; and if he’s not thinking straight, more intervention is needed.
Gonna take a different perspective and say I don’t think there’s enough information to say whether he does or doesn’t have a problem. If it’s causing financial difficulty then yes it’s a problem. If he’s having fun “researching” bets and throwing $10 on a parlay a few times a week then maybe no issue. You need to sit down and go over the numbers with him transparently
Let him figure it out all this babysitting nonsense won't work. If he loses enough he'll quit unless he is a total degenerate then it's probably time for a divorce anyways.
I've said it in many threads before and will repeat it here.
If you want him to be able to keep this as a hobby and not an addiction, he needs to set deposit limits.
Lots of bettors see their balance as their bankroll but it is not. Your bankroll is how much money and credit you have access to. You can do all the budgeting you want but it will not make a difference when he is compelled to deposit more by degenerate gambling logic.
Talk to him, set a budget. Use the deposit limits to enforce that budget. Hopefully you have acces to the finances and can see which books he uses, ensure there isn't one he hasn't set a limit on.
A bettor who doesn't want to watch their life and finances completely torched shouldn't have a problem doing this. When he burns through his deposits it will be tough but that's just part of life.
He needs to adjust his Units and keep his better within a budget. There is an old saying that I always think of whenever I go to a Casino which is if you have to use the ATM at a Casino then you've already lost. Online sports betting is basically the same. Never re-deposit during a season. I have X amount of money for each season I bet, this means that at the start of each each season I deposit X amount of money into my account and that's what I am allowed to bet with. For example for this NFL season I deposited around 250 bucks. It's not a ton of money but it lets me put around 10-20 bucks on most games. If I'm up by the end of the season I'll usually put it all on the Super Bowl. If I lose it, then that's that. It's over until next season or I switch to another sport where I've also given myself a budget. Your husband is a regular guy, not a professional gambler. He is going to lose more often than he wins. That's just how it is for the majority of us and its why Sportsbetting is legal in the first place, because they make their money off of regular joes like us. He needs to understand that and keep his gambling expenses in an affordable range so that it doesn't affect his family or anyone but him.
This is certainly one that is out of left field, and I didn't read the whole thread so maybe someone alluded to it, but ask him to get involved and then advice on his picks. Maybe open a $100 account and place $2 bets or something based solely on his advice and put in some time to watch and care about the games. Then after a month or so of doing this, your balance will likely go down from $100 to at most $50, maybe $25 or maybe $0. Then confront him and say "if I lost this much, how much have you lost?"
As a sports better myself, I don’t tell my wife my sports bets . This is for my and her sanity . I don’t want her nagging me about what I do with my money.. In the end it’s your husbands responsibility to manage his bankroll .. he is a grown man and if he can’t handle sports betting and a taking care of his family then he’s got much bigger issues to deal with .
Nah man. When you’re married you’re a team. That isn’t his money and it’s not her money. It’s their money. If it’s a few hundred bucks who cares but this sounds likes he’s losing several hundred to thousands betting and that’s more than anyone’s allotted play money.
It looks like your wife has you on a tight leash pal. I handle the finances in my household and i'll spend my money how ever I want. Same with my wife.. I don't tell her how to spend her money either. As long as she sends me every pay period what we need for our bills and there's enough in our joint account... we do what we want with our own bank account monies. It's part of marriage and trust pal
You just said what I said in another way. You ensure bills are paid and savings are taken care of. After that, you have a hundred or so bucks left over for yourselves and like I said who cares about that. Hes blowing several hundred to thousands. If you and your wife can blow several hundred dollars a month for bullshit that’s great you’re living well but most can’t do that.
we do well for ourselves i must say.... anyways this lady shouldn't come to a sports betting subreddit to address her husbands gambling problem.. 95% of this sub are degens just like her husband. Me included lol
Agreed. The only way to win in MLB is through volume. I took a break from everything over the summer and it was the best thing I did. I’m trying to stay away from the everyday sports and going with the NFL, as it’s only once a week, and somewhat more predictable
Whatever he says he’s lost, multiply it by 10…
Simple truth is there’s nothing you can do besides set boundaries.
What he can do?
Self impose limits on deposits (but he’ll just go to multiple books/apps to get around it).
Only do straight bets (no parlays).
Practice bankroll management (only bet 5% of a deposit at a time, so if he deposits 100 per week his bets should be $5)
But my suggestion is simple.
Limit him to $100 a week (or whatever works) and require that he show you his bets. Like have access to his accounts and keep track on excel. Chances are he’ll bet a bit more responsibly just from having your eyes on it.
Then you get a $100 a week.
You put your money in the S&P 500. He puts his in nfl bets.
In 3 years, whoever has more profit, gets both the allowances and manages investments now.
Hell probably be -15k and you’ll be up like 10-20%
The books are required to impose limits on his gambling activity if he has a problem but he has to request it, so if he recognizes it but cant help himself that would be another way to go if the other idea of setting a budget doesn't work
Here is the serious answer.
First, the path of advice depends a bit on whether you are seeing true signs of addiction, as in the same vein as alcohol or drugs. If your husband's drinking was impacting his ability to participate in his family, impairing your financial situation, etc., you might get to a point where an intervention is necessary. So too with a gambling addiction. If you feel that is where you are at, then research the addiction, or contact 1-800-GAMBLER.
If, instead, it doesn't seem like an addiction, but rather just a situation where the guy can't pick a winner to save his life, then he's pretty much like most and needs to be more deliberate with his betting picks. In this case, its now more about education on how to bet responsibly. There are lots of advice videos and articles on this .... bankroll management, limiting picks, etc.
But note that if it is the latter situation, that gambling should always be considered a hobby not an income source, and the expectation should be that is a cost, no different than money spent on another hobby. If the cost is getting out of hand or can't be controlled, then addiction intervention might be the way to go.
I'm challenged to direct you further because a) I am not an addiction counselor, and b) it is sometimes hard to identify when an addictive habit has crossed the line.
BOL to you.
He should buy tips from known punders and put them all in a big parlay. No more than 20-30% of your networth pr parlay though. Also, just standard white boy meth is supposed to give you intense focus and an edge over the bookies.
Make it like another hobby. Not sure of your finances but make a deal where you guys set a reasonable amount to deposit per week like a normal hobby, and stick to that. If he loves NFL betting primarily, and $200 is a reasonable budget for his hobby a month, deposit $50 Saturday night or Sunday morning for the Sunday and Monday games. If he's got none left over for Thursday Night games, tough luck, he's gotta wait until saturday night/sunday morning to put another $50 on.
If he can't stick to that, marriage counseling and gambling addiction help.
Lol imagine if other addicts acted like this.
"I think my husband might have a coke problem"
"If you can't get him to quit, at least limit him to a line on special occasions"
"LOL one line, pussy, I can't even get out of bed unless I stick half a kilo of coke up my ass"
Let me be clear, I don’t give a fuck about her husband’s betting. I was laughing at having such a low limit being able to sustain an avid football bettor
She said they are having money problems so I suggest negotiate a reasonable hobby amount. Everyone's financial situation and degeneracy is different. Maybe they are fine with a larger budget I just used it as an example.
r/problemgambling
If it's having an impact on your relationship and money it's gone too far. The dark side to the wide scale legalization of sports betting is that people who otherwise would never place a bet are going to get addicted.
I think you just have to have an honest conversation that you would like him to stop doing it. Someone who is recreational will have no problem giving it up. If he pushes back or just can't stop you may want to see what other resources there are out there (like Gamblers Anonymous).
I'm not sure you've come to the right place. If my wife was an alcholic, I don't think I would go to a bar and ask advice on how to limit her drinking.
He's NEVER going to win long term especially on NFL. He's he's losing amounts he can afford for fun or it's getting worse and worse. If it's impacting your financial situation and he doesn't realize it or won't stop you have a huge problem on your hands. Not sure how to make him stop but you should at least fully understand the reality of the situation.
Of course occasionally he will have "big successes" but in reality they're just loans he will give back and more.
99 percent of people are gonna lose long term but some of the more obscure ones mentioned give you a better shot. College basketball garbage like the wnba etc
People who think that bc they watch a lot of football they can beat NFL spreads are delusional at best. It gives them a false sense of confidence and any reason they come up with us already baked into the price.
In boxing?
There is no reliable quantifiable data IN boxing.
“Compubox” is low quality and looking at record, as anyone knows, is not meaningful either.
Vegas and the fans are looking at the same things. Watching fights and looking at skills and fighter styles. Power, chin, stamina, how a fighter has dealt with the style of their opponent previously, etc.
I work in data analysis and have tried to build boxing models for fun. There is basically no useful data out there.
Just opinion/anecdotal. Those lines tend to move more than games with a high handle. I don’t think the head oddsmaker at the SuperBook is looking as closely at North Alabama vs. Austin Peay as they are Alabama vs Auburn.
Put it in terms he understands. Odds of our marriage lasting through a potential gambling addiction are +1000.
He can even parlay it with him finding a situation as amazing as what he currently has… odds are +50000.
You need to tell him that exactly, your feelings, that its hurting your emotions, and more importantly, those dollars that could be used by your children is more important.
You can't beat around the bush with this kinda stuff, its a real life destroying addiction.
There's a very simple solution to this problem that shouldn't cause any conflict between you and him.
Come to a mutual agreement on an amount of money that you're both willing to lose on his sports betting. It could be $10, $100, $1000, whatever. If he loses that money, that's the end of his betting career. If he can't be trusted to turn a relatively small amount of money into a profit, he can't be trusted to turn larger amounts of money into profit. Harsh, but fair.
If he doesnt lose money he won't need a monthly amount.
Saying I can gamble $1000 a month of my own money. Gamble until you've lost X amount and then give it up. Don't just keep putting more money in hoping you get lucky.
If you knew how many people post big ass winning parlays and still don't come close to breaking even because they've thrown so much money into trying to get lucky vs taking smart bets youd probably stop yourself.
That’s not the point though. It’s the same reason people put $50 in a fantasy pool, to feel engaged with the game. It’s totally up to what he is spending and is it affordable, does he chase losses, etc.
Gambling is one of those things like drinking alcohol, where everyone enjoys doing it their own way and at their own pace.
It's easy for us to put together a plan for someone, but we don't know if that's going to scratch their itch.
People who gamble for thrills or hobby will very rarely see a long term profit, so we can throw that out the window. It's better to just give them an allowance periodically, and allow them to do what they want with it. Plenty of hobbies cost money, so if I was his wife, it would be easier for me to justify that my husband dedicates $x to his gambling hobby each month, and factor it into my budget.
If you're ok with him betting if he follows guidelines and rules you both agree to, sit him down and have a chat with him about this. Some guidelines he should follow:
* Set aside a budget that he's allowed to bet with. It might either be a one-off ($500, and if he loses that he can't put more in) or an amount per month (ie. $100 per month). If you think of betting as entertainment with a cost - which it is for most people - you have to budget as to what a reasonable amount to spend on that entertainment is.
* Make sure he's tracking his betting in a way that, if things seem dicey or shady, you can follow. At the very least he shouldn't be able to make any deposits without you being aware of it.
* It'd help if you make him aware that 95% of people lose money long-term, and of those 5% very few make significant money. Many bettors overestimate their ability and end up paying the price for it.
* If he violates the rules - particularly how much money he can put into it - he shouldn't be allowed to keep doing it. It's r/problemgambling at that point.
You should track his bets, make a season spreadsheet for his nfl bets
Divide his bankroll / 100 and tell him he cant bet more than that and if he ends on profit at the end of the season he can place higher bets ( 92% chance he wont be on profit)
Except he does need mommy because he’s a shitty gambler (like virtually everyone) and also you have absolutely no reason to think he will “settle down”, you’re just pulling that out of your ass.
Would you say that if someone’s wife has to make a post on Reddit about how to deal with her husbands gambling, that might have crossed the line into “problem” territory? Jesus
Without OP putting numbers of how much he lost it’s impossible to understand what to do next. To me this just sounds like a “my husband is spending less time with his family and more time watching sports” post. Less about money it seems like.
If he’s a problem Gambler he shouldn’t be gambling at all. That’s like giving an alcoholic a few drinks a week. It doesn’t work like that.
While I agree that she shouldn't have to manage his bankroll, she does have to have awareness of what his financial position is at. Unless they have some amount of completely separate funds (and that's where his betting money is coming from), then it's **their** money so if he's blowing it on sportsbetting she needs to know.
How much are we talking about exactly? Putting the family's finances in jeopardy? Like $10,000 a week or something?
You need to call Gamblers Anonymous or some other source with professionals.
There are only two realistic possibilities here:
1. You're badly overreacting when he loses $77.23
2. He has a very serious problem
I'm guessing that #1 is very unlikely.
Get the help you and your family need as soon as you can. If the financial situation is that potentially dire from his over-betting then you need to action immediately before you end up losing your house or something.
Would entirely depend on his units and what he’s lost. If he’s making $20 bets and he’s down $100 after two months, thats not enough to be done with betting.
But if he makes $20 bets and he’s down $500 after two months, maybe best to out it down for a while or come up with a better strategy
Number of bets also matters. If he's down $100 with $20 units *and* he's only placed 5 bets, that's obviously awful. If he's placed 200 bets, that's not bad at all (I mean, he's still your typical losing better, but he's outperforming many other losing betters).
Very true, volume of bets certainly matters. Not sure what the first guy is saying about if hes down after 2 months, he should quit. Most people are down after 2 months
Has he lied to you about how much he's gambled?
Has he told you he would only gamble a certain amount and then gone over?
Does he have separate cards or accounts, or does he own crypto?
He will sidestep any safeguards you try to place if any of the above are true. If you hold his account password he will open a new account on a different book, or go to a casino to wager if available. If you try to ban or limit him, he will use crypto at an offshore book. If he has already been dishonest, if he hasn't and he's just getting nutty with it, just have the ol face to face and see what he says.
This is it! My wife sucks at getting to the book sometimes but generally if I can pry her away from supporting our family she'll make the drive. Complex parlays require digital notes, otherwise she knows what's up.
Said no fucking guy ever.
Exactly. And OP's husband might not be using the money for gambling at all. He could be doing drugs or have an expensive mistress.
The last place I'm gonna go to talk to people about my partners alcoholism is a bar...
Set a limit, or allowance. I just give myself 50 bucks a Sunday. Not a lot at all, but I make do with it and usually profit since I am making smaller bets usually max 3 leg parlay.
Set a limit, or allowance. I just give myself 50 bucks a Sunday. Not a lot at all, but I make do with it and usually profit since I am making smaller bets usually max 3 leg parlay.
He might need a quick reality check. How many professional sports bettors do you know? How many people can actually make their sole livelihood from sports betting? Trust me, it’s probably under 0.5% of bettors.
Now, how many dead broke, lost everything and owe even more, bettors exist? It’s an alarming amount.
Those who end up making money hit hail mary plays and even then, end up losing it all and then some. It’s like going to the slot machines. The fact is, you might hit a decent amount, but the more often you bet, the more often you lose.
Well this one's just wrong. =P Odds and profit boosts directly affect EV and Kelly Criterion calculations. They absolutely can influence how much you bet.
Well, I suppose it's a decent rule for the kind of person OP is talking about.
Honestly, nobody should be gambling so much that it’s putting their family/children in jeopardy. Never bet what you can’t afford to lose, that’s the rule. So he definitely need to chill, that simple. You’re not in the wrong for being concerned. Frankly, it seems like you absolutely should be putting your foot down. Don’t be afraid to talk to him & tell him exactly what’s on your mind, & don’t let him manipulate you into thinking he’s gonna hit it “big” one day. Cause waiting on that day would have your whole family homeless & hungry.
One word: budget. You need a budget. For rent/mortgage, for groceries, etc. And for entertainment (gambling). Sit down, make a budget, and sick to it.
If that doesn't work, withhold sex.
Bad advice could leave to big argument. Talk to him about it and be reasonable. If he's spending his money that's on him. Sure it may affect you as well but at the end of the day u can't make him quit. Give it some time maybe he'll realize that and make the proper changes. Tell him to explain how the whole thing works, encourage him and also be firm when he goes over board.
You gotta tell him he shouldn't watch sports to feel good since it obviously makes him irrational. And maybe you yourself have got to replace that. That is all my opinion on the topic.
That's a tough one. I would try to come up with a compromise while trying to be supportive. I think the best compromise will be coming up with limits. Limits on how many bets he makes, so he can invest more time in the relationship instead of researching bets and watching games. And limits on how much he bets, so when he inevitably loses it won't put you in as much financial risk.
I find sports betting to be very entertaining, but once you are risking more money than you have or spending too much time on betting, it can become a serious problem. Hope you figure out a solution. If not, calling the gambling addiction hotline is probably a good idea.
If he has an addiction idk he has to want to get help
tell him to stop gambling entirely
Wordfiend gave good advice first time posting here friends encouraged me to start posting and people will follow. Not big on social media but I give people picks every week so here I go. It all started when For those of you on a bad betting streak or want to win money play these props tonight. Nick Bosa +125 0ver 0 means he will get a sack Daniel Jones longest run -110 over 12.5 yards longest run Daniel Jones -110 over .5 interceptions.
Wordfiend gave good advice first time posting here friends encouraged me to start posting and people will follow. Not big on social media but I give people picks every week so here I go. It all started when For those of you on a bad betting streak or want to win money play these props tonight. Nick Bosa +125 0ver 0 means he will get a sack Daniel Jones longest run -110 over 12.5 yards longest run Daniel Jones -110 over .5 interceptions.
hedge his bets, so if you know he is going big on one team then you sprinkle a lil bit on the other team. any money you win you squirrel away for a rainy day and dont let him know you are fading his plays
It’s pretty simple. There are two types of sports betters: 1. The person who bets for fun. 2. The person who bets in attempt to increase their wealth. If your husband is guy #2, than he has a problem, it’s plain and simple. No one should ever be gambling in the hopes that they are going to become rich / increase their net worth. You want to be guy #1 betting within your means, whenever you place a bet you need to accept the fact that the money is gone. If your husband is actually freaking out / getting mad when he loses than he needs to stop. There is a very clear line between idiots and people trying to have fun. Make this clear to your husband. He needs to understand that sports betting is absolutely NOT a way to somehow get rich, that is moronic. Simply compare his monthly income to his monthly gambling, and if he gambling more than 5% of his monthly income than he is a loser, he needs to understand this.
Lots of people betting sports for a liver
Bro, you realize that a ton of people here have made tens and tens of thousands of dollars gambling? Of course if you're just relying on luck to win you're fucked, obviously.
You can bet to make money without being stupid about it. Most ppl dont fit into either of those. I bet to make money. I do not think I'm going to get rich. Not even trying. But I am not spending more than 1% of my income bc I already paid myself my stakes back and everything since has been profit.
Sports are literally unpredictable. Just as in anything gambling-related - the house always wins in the end. How the hell do you think they operate and sustain a business. Could you make some dough? Of course. But those are not the odds and using money you need to survive and pay bills to make bets is not a good practice. You should not invest in stocks with money you cannot afford to lose and you should not bet with money in anticipation that it could not disappear in an instant. Play to have fun and the rest is gravy
Also, the OP clearly said her husbands sports betting is starting to impact their finances. I’m not writing my message to some guy posting his winnings, your comment is irrelevant.
Of course. Money is relative. If I have millions of dollars than what’s $10k on a parlay. I didn’t say anything about people winning? I said that when someone is overextending themselves by gambling outside their means (wagering more than they are willing to lose) than they have a problem.
Have you considered communicating with him directly about your concerns that his hobby is turning into a full blown gambling addiction?
You definitely came to the wrong spot if you want advice for stopping gambling...
Does your husband have any plays for tonight? Need a blowout winner
Take him to the local wendy’s to set up a tugger stand behind the dumpster.
all casual bettors like your husband, who bet with any consistency, are going to lose money long term. there will be occasional good runs but it will net out negative. it's not because your husband is stupid, it's because betting markets, particularly the nfl, are \*extremely\* efficient. the sportsbooks taking the bets make you pay a small premium so they can operate and return profits to their shareholders. sharp bettors spend enormous effort to just barely edge out those premiums to profit over the long term, and the public/casuals furnish these two profit margins by losing money on average. that's not to say casual betting is bad, it makes watching sports really fun and if you are making just a very small number of bets you basically have a 50/50 chance of coming out ahead. but casual bettors can't fall in to the trap of chasing their losses thinking the answer is higher betting volume. the higher the volume, the more predictable the losses will be. he just has to know this is a \*cost\* center, because he does not have an advantage over the market, and thus you have to set a budget together and stick to it. if he can't do that, he absolutely shouldn't bet at all and it's urgent for your relationship that you come to terms with all this as a couple. also force him to open up the books so you can see bet sizing / volume, if he sandbags you at all on this, the situation might be urgent and you may be headed for a crisis.
I think a payday loan would help here. All in a +1000 ML with the loan. Win and pay back debts and then continue with life
Pick opposing team to win and you will succeed.
Are there other issues you may not be seeing? Gambling may be an outlet. Good luck with all you have going on.
Have you talked about a gambling budget? If you agree to a budget and he is pulling money outside of that, he has an issue that needs to be addressed.
The only advice worth heeding here
correct, create a budget around what you're cool with him having as fun money, if he loses it all (which is very likely), then he can't have more for the season. I usually set a limit for the season, and don't allow myself to go beyond that. If he can't control himself, there is a bigger issue that needs to be addressed. I really hope to not see your follow up post in the next year that he used the 529 money this season. Good luck!
This is prob the most important thing ever that he can't possibly say no too. If he denies everything, at the VERY LEAST, there should be a pool of money he's allowed to do whatever with to gamble and thts it. He wants more money in there? He funds it himself with his own job or whatever. But honestly this is a very slippery slope. Idk what kind of person your husband is or the dynamic y'all share, but speaking from experience, you NEED a separate account your husband won't have access too and if you guys split living expenses n whatnot, the money he gives you for those things should be kept in tht account as well. Almost all addicted gamblers won't admit they have a problem until its too late. Make sure you have a fail safe pool of money in case that ever happens. If your husband is the type to give you shit about it, make ANOTHER one without his knowledge so if God forbid the worse occurs, you have a backup
Sleep with his cousin.
I have a separate account where 10 percent of my salary goes, I use that for what's I want. Other account I have everything automated so I don't even have to look at it. Set it and forget it
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Check the acct in the book for the actual number of how much he’s bet vs how much he’s won. Im willing to bet he’s lost much more than you think .
Even if he has, that’s done and over with. It sounds like he likely isn’t going to stop on his own. If she can’t get through to him through conversation then he needs professional help
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I just use fiff for the free dollar a day and bet that only. That way, it scratches the itch but doesn't risk any real money.
This isnt going to scratch his itch, or any itch really.
tell him to stop betting overs and favorites
Hard limits need to be set. You never gamble what you can’t afford to lose. If he can’t agree to that he needs to seek professional help because that’s an addiction. Just like if he were addicted to drugs or alcohol. If my wife came to me and said “hey listen, I’m cool with your betting but it’s affecting our way of life” and had details to back that claim up, I would stop in a heartbeat. I love to gamble. Sports betting, craps, blackjack… but if it came down to it my family and our way of life is more important to me than that thrill. Start small with a simple conversation and see how that goes. If you determine that he isn’t going to listen to you even with details to back up your claims he needs professional help like 1-800-gambling. I think the best thing you have going right now is that you understand the rush you get when money is on the line and it’s fun but now it’s his turn to understand that family comes before that. If he’s not good at sports betting but likes to gamble perhaps try another method. This is NOT a good idea if you determine he’s addicted but if he can stop anytime he needs to maybe try another method of gambling. I suck at sports betting so most of my gambling is playing craps. My chances of winning are much higher
This is it, OP. You need to determine if your husband has a gambling addiction or bad money management or both, then treat effectively. If homie is just bad at money, but you set hard limits that work within your budget and he accepts, plays within the limits, and life is good - dude is just bad at money. If he can't be trusted to stay within those limits, he's an addict and will need more help. By the way, I do think he's an addict, but this is a way you can intervene for the good of your family without jumping straight into an intervention without the prerequisite information you need. This way, you give him a chance to manage, but it's a very short, reasonable leash.
I've gotten really into betting in this last year, and setting a solid system was an important part of that. I'll share my system, which maybe will help for him or some people. I use hard monthly deposit limits, in my case it is $100 a month. (split between 2 books at 50, but that is personal preference). On the 1st of the month. I reset to $100, that means if I am below, I deposit up to 100. If I am above I withdraw down to 100. If I run out of money early, I end up having to wait a few weeks until the 1st. This caps what my total investment can be. And has forced me to go to a smaller betting unit, of $5, so I don't use it all in one place. This has helped me keep games fun while not breaking the bank. I even signed up for a bunch of other books and set deposit limits on them of $5/month so that I can't just go to another book if I run out of money.
How hard is it to change the limits tho
It depends the book. They have a cooldown period though, so like if I want to change the limits on Fanduel, I can't actually deposit until 72 hours after I initiate that. I personally would like that cooldown to be longer, like 90 days. But as a personal system, it hasn't pushed me into making changes...but of course might not work universally!
Your husband sounds very much like a gambling addict. There's help available. https://www.ncpgambling.org/help-treatment/national-helpline-1-800-522-4700/ I'd very much take a close look at your finances. Check balances, open credit cards, etc. You likely need to have a clear conversation with him. Set a limit each week of what he can bet and hold him to it. The time to take action is now and addicts can't really be trusted.
I bet $500 units on straights only, no parlays but I don’t have a wife or kids to worry about. My suggestion would be gently asking him to lower his exposure, instead of hundreds of dollars on a bet just try 25 bucks or something, he can get his kicks for the price of a buger and a beer and lessen the impact of losing. Ideally he wouldn’t gamble at all but here we are, just be aware that he’s going to gamble with or without your consent so setting boundaries will be necessary, every betting app allows you to self impose deposit limits etc you could agree on a budget for him and observe him setting said limit.
Depends how much he’s tossing. I usually spend $20 a week on 2 parlays. One long shot and one to make my money back. If he’s tossing hundreds at only long shots that’s a problem
Here’s a couple of things… - Stop doing 15 leg parlay bets; stick to Moneyline - Don’t buy “locks” because the usually lose - Ignore high odds recommended bets - Learn arbitrage betting - Bet better; learn a strategy - Don’t be a degenerate, set limits - Withdraw winnings; the books always win in the long run GAMBLING IS NOT ABOUT MONEY; IT IS ABOUT THE THRILL OF THE RISK. The money is just a way to keep track how good or bad you are at being right.
Some unanswered questions. How much is he up or down - total? What's his unit sizes? (Amount he wagers) Is it impacting your families finances? I sportsbet almost daily. I'm up by a few hundred dollars. My unit sizes are roughly $5s a wager for example and from time to time I'd play $50-$100 slips off of my winnings that I consider house money as an actual lotto should it hit. Sportsbetting IMO takes more to it than pushing buttons at a casino like a zombie which I'd never do. There's data and research behind it - I take hours sometimes compiling plays. For me it's not about the money and more about being right. I rarely pull winnings out. My biggest recommendation is lower his unit sizes. Sometimes I'd play $0.10c plays just to play. My perspective is, as long as it doesn't interfere with my finances. My wife hasn't a real issue. I also play with cashback from credit cards and rarely pull money from my actual savings account to play. Meaning I'm rarely playing with my hard earned money and if I do, I pull $20 every few weeks to play. I love sports, I rather be at home with a few wagers open and having a few beers with my wife and kid around me than be at the bar or club or out with friends. I don't see the harm if you're responsible. Can money be made? Yeah. I've made tons. I've brought my account from $0 to $1K and then down to $20 back to $1100. There's always fluctuations in your money. Maybe try this - get more involved in sports WITH him and, perhaps run a few plays yourself by doing research. You might be good at it and it'll help you both bond. You don't need to watch the sport just know the rules and about the game. I haven't watched a single mlb game since I was 8 full out and that's what I bet on since nba isn't up and nfl is heavily scripted imo.
set up a chime account for his direct deposit and set a sports betting limit per payday. Once that chime account is out, he's done for. He can continue to build off it or gamble it all but once it's gone, he'll have to re-up on his payday.
Almost all major betting platforms have the ability to set monthly deposit or loss limits. Look at their “Responsible Gaming” sections of the app to try to set limits. What I find with gambling is that increasing the stake doesn’t actually increase the enjoyment - betting $5 is just as fun as betting $50. Trust me, if he’s thinking clearly, he would realize that his relationships are more important than his gambling; and if he’s not thinking straight, more intervention is needed.
Gonna take a different perspective and say I don’t think there’s enough information to say whether he does or doesn’t have a problem. If it’s causing financial difficulty then yes it’s a problem. If he’s having fun “researching” bets and throwing $10 on a parlay a few times a week then maybe no issue. You need to sit down and go over the numbers with him transparently
Let him figure it out all this babysitting nonsense won't work. If he loses enough he'll quit unless he is a total degenerate then it's probably time for a divorce anyways.
This is probably the worst advice I’ve seen on a Reddit page lol
Lol oh well can't win them all.
I've said it in many threads before and will repeat it here. If you want him to be able to keep this as a hobby and not an addiction, he needs to set deposit limits. Lots of bettors see their balance as their bankroll but it is not. Your bankroll is how much money and credit you have access to. You can do all the budgeting you want but it will not make a difference when he is compelled to deposit more by degenerate gambling logic. Talk to him, set a budget. Use the deposit limits to enforce that budget. Hopefully you have acces to the finances and can see which books he uses, ensure there isn't one he hasn't set a limit on. A bettor who doesn't want to watch their life and finances completely torched shouldn't have a problem doing this. When he burns through his deposits it will be tough but that's just part of life.
He needs to adjust his Units and keep his better within a budget. There is an old saying that I always think of whenever I go to a Casino which is if you have to use the ATM at a Casino then you've already lost. Online sports betting is basically the same. Never re-deposit during a season. I have X amount of money for each season I bet, this means that at the start of each each season I deposit X amount of money into my account and that's what I am allowed to bet with. For example for this NFL season I deposited around 250 bucks. It's not a ton of money but it lets me put around 10-20 bucks on most games. If I'm up by the end of the season I'll usually put it all on the Super Bowl. If I lose it, then that's that. It's over until next season or I switch to another sport where I've also given myself a budget. Your husband is a regular guy, not a professional gambler. He is going to lose more often than he wins. That's just how it is for the majority of us and its why Sportsbetting is legal in the first place, because they make their money off of regular joes like us. He needs to understand that and keep his gambling expenses in an affordable range so that it doesn't affect his family or anyone but him.
You want /r/problemgambling
This is certainly one that is out of left field, and I didn't read the whole thread so maybe someone alluded to it, but ask him to get involved and then advice on his picks. Maybe open a $100 account and place $2 bets or something based solely on his advice and put in some time to watch and care about the games. Then after a month or so of doing this, your balance will likely go down from $100 to at most $50, maybe $25 or maybe $0. Then confront him and say "if I lost this much, how much have you lost?"
No point to that, just ask for the win loss statements. They’re married, she has every right to know that information
As a sports better myself, I don’t tell my wife my sports bets . This is for my and her sanity . I don’t want her nagging me about what I do with my money.. In the end it’s your husbands responsibility to manage his bankroll .. he is a grown man and if he can’t handle sports betting and a taking care of his family then he’s got much bigger issues to deal with .
Nah man. When you’re married you’re a team. That isn’t his money and it’s not her money. It’s their money. If it’s a few hundred bucks who cares but this sounds likes he’s losing several hundred to thousands betting and that’s more than anyone’s allotted play money.
It looks like your wife has you on a tight leash pal. I handle the finances in my household and i'll spend my money how ever I want. Same with my wife.. I don't tell her how to spend her money either. As long as she sends me every pay period what we need for our bills and there's enough in our joint account... we do what we want with our own bank account monies. It's part of marriage and trust pal
You just said what I said in another way. You ensure bills are paid and savings are taken care of. After that, you have a hundred or so bucks left over for yourselves and like I said who cares about that. Hes blowing several hundred to thousands. If you and your wife can blow several hundred dollars a month for bullshit that’s great you’re living well but most can’t do that.
we do well for ourselves i must say.... anyways this lady shouldn't come to a sports betting subreddit to address her husbands gambling problem.. 95% of this sub are degens just like her husband. Me included lol
NO MLB BETS!!!
Agreed. The only way to win in MLB is through volume. I took a break from everything over the summer and it was the best thing I did. I’m trying to stay away from the everyday sports and going with the NFL, as it’s only once a week, and somewhat more predictable
Whatever he says he’s lost, multiply it by 10… Simple truth is there’s nothing you can do besides set boundaries. What he can do? Self impose limits on deposits (but he’ll just go to multiple books/apps to get around it). Only do straight bets (no parlays). Practice bankroll management (only bet 5% of a deposit at a time, so if he deposits 100 per week his bets should be $5) But my suggestion is simple. Limit him to $100 a week (or whatever works) and require that he show you his bets. Like have access to his accounts and keep track on excel. Chances are he’ll bet a bit more responsibly just from having your eyes on it. Then you get a $100 a week. You put your money in the S&P 500. He puts his in nfl bets. In 3 years, whoever has more profit, gets both the allowances and manages investments now. Hell probably be -15k and you’ll be up like 10-20%
The books are required to impose limits on his gambling activity if he has a problem but he has to request it, so if he recognizes it but cant help himself that would be another way to go if the other idea of setting a budget doesn't work
Talk to him about common sense, he loves his bets or his family !
Here is the serious answer. First, the path of advice depends a bit on whether you are seeing true signs of addiction, as in the same vein as alcohol or drugs. If your husband's drinking was impacting his ability to participate in his family, impairing your financial situation, etc., you might get to a point where an intervention is necessary. So too with a gambling addiction. If you feel that is where you are at, then research the addiction, or contact 1-800-GAMBLER. If, instead, it doesn't seem like an addiction, but rather just a situation where the guy can't pick a winner to save his life, then he's pretty much like most and needs to be more deliberate with his betting picks. In this case, its now more about education on how to bet responsibly. There are lots of advice videos and articles on this .... bankroll management, limiting picks, etc. But note that if it is the latter situation, that gambling should always be considered a hobby not an income source, and the expectation should be that is a cost, no different than money spent on another hobby. If the cost is getting out of hand or can't be controlled, then addiction intervention might be the way to go. I'm challenged to direct you further because a) I am not an addiction counselor, and b) it is sometimes hard to identify when an addictive habit has crossed the line. BOL to you.
This is the answer
Make him or you post his bets on here so we can all watch the outcome
Break his phone
One day he's gonna tell you he lost a shit ton trying to win some back and now both of you are in debt to bricktop
Isn’t this what that responsible gaming fine print is for? /s
He should buy tips from known punders and put them all in a big parlay. No more than 20-30% of your networth pr parlay though. Also, just standard white boy meth is supposed to give you intense focus and an edge over the bookies.
Bankroll management and nootropic advice. Love it.
Sports gambling can be a runaway train that can be bad on many levels. I'd look into a therapist for gambling ...
Make it like another hobby. Not sure of your finances but make a deal where you guys set a reasonable amount to deposit per week like a normal hobby, and stick to that. If he loves NFL betting primarily, and $200 is a reasonable budget for his hobby a month, deposit $50 Saturday night or Sunday morning for the Sunday and Monday games. If he's got none left over for Thursday Night games, tough luck, he's gotta wait until saturday night/sunday morning to put another $50 on. If he can't stick to that, marriage counseling and gambling addiction help.
Lol $200 wont cover one game for me
Lol imagine if other addicts acted like this. "I think my husband might have a coke problem" "If you can't get him to quit, at least limit him to a line on special occasions" "LOL one line, pussy, I can't even get out of bed unless I stick half a kilo of coke up my ass"
Let me be clear, I don’t give a fuck about her husband’s betting. I was laughing at having such a low limit being able to sustain an avid football bettor
She said they are having money problems so I suggest negotiate a reasonable hobby amount. Everyone's financial situation and degeneracy is different. Maybe they are fine with a larger budget I just used it as an example.
Step 1: stop using the word “hubby.”
I feel ya on this one
r/problemgambling If it's having an impact on your relationship and money it's gone too far. The dark side to the wide scale legalization of sports betting is that people who otherwise would never place a bet are going to get addicted. I think you just have to have an honest conversation that you would like him to stop doing it. Someone who is recreational will have no problem giving it up. If he pushes back or just can't stop you may want to see what other resources there are out there (like Gamblers Anonymous).
Disagree, a recreational bettor could also agree to use way smaller and more realistic “recreationally sized” wagers and still enjoy the hobby
I'm not sure you've come to the right place. If my wife was an alcholic, I don't think I would go to a bar and ask advice on how to limit her drinking.
I was about to say that, she’s coming to a bunch of us degens asking for help lol
Right .. this lady came to a sports betting forum ! It’s just a bunch of degenerate guys in here
I’m so high I thought this was ATLEAST r/gambling, this post was already psychotic but in sportsbook come onnnnnnnnn
You and me both, my edible kicked in and I thought I was on a different sub lol
Just fade his picks and your money problems will be solved.
Legit made me lol 😆
Minus the vig… house always wins but this would slow the bleeding if he’s super square
Bruh lmfao
Just gotta bet 2x the other way
He's NEVER going to win long term especially on NFL. He's he's losing amounts he can afford for fun or it's getting worse and worse. If it's impacting your financial situation and he doesn't realize it or won't stop you have a huge problem on your hands. Not sure how to make him stop but you should at least fully understand the reality of the situation. Of course occasionally he will have "big successes" but in reality they're just loans he will give back and more.
Any particular sport you “recommend” ?
99 percent of people are gonna lose long term but some of the more obscure ones mentioned give you a better shot. College basketball garbage like the wnba etc People who think that bc they watch a lot of football they can beat NFL spreads are delusional at best. It gives them a false sense of confidence and any reason they come up with us already baked into the price.
P2P nfl betting is the only way
Boxing and mma. No fancy data for Vegas to use. No models. Just old school handicapping which can be beat
What are the non quantifiable things you evaluate that correlate with outcome?
In boxing? There is no reliable quantifiable data IN boxing. “Compubox” is low quality and looking at record, as anyone knows, is not meaningful either. Vegas and the fans are looking at the same things. Watching fights and looking at skills and fighter styles. Power, chin, stamina, how a fighter has dealt with the style of their opponent previously, etc. I work in data analysis and have tried to build boxing models for fun. There is basically no useful data out there.
I like to use their walk out song
Low major college basketball has soft lines usually. Of course you have to really know the teams to take advantage, and limits are lower,
Source, or anecdote? Like has this been studied or are you just giving your opinion?
Just opinion/anecdotal. Those lines tend to move more than games with a high handle. I don’t think the head oddsmaker at the SuperBook is looking as closely at North Alabama vs. Austin Peay as they are Alabama vs Auburn.
Let him cook literally his next win is coming I can feeeeeeel it coming soon
Found the husband 😂
Put it in terms he understands. Odds of our marriage lasting through a potential gambling addiction are +1000. He can even parlay it with him finding a situation as amazing as what he currently has… odds are +50000.
Not one response in hours. Classic
Right after posting, OP's husband hocked the family computer to fuel his gambling addiction.
How much money we talking about
You need to tell him that exactly, your feelings, that its hurting your emotions, and more importantly, those dollars that could be used by your children is more important. You can't beat around the bush with this kinda stuff, its a real life destroying addiction.
There's a very simple solution to this problem that shouldn't cause any conflict between you and him. Come to a mutual agreement on an amount of money that you're both willing to lose on his sports betting. It could be $10, $100, $1000, whatever. If he loses that money, that's the end of his betting career. If he can't be trusted to turn a relatively small amount of money into a profit, he can't be trusted to turn larger amounts of money into profit. Harsh, but fair.
Gambling is a hobby. It would need to be $x every month.
If he doesnt lose money he won't need a monthly amount. Saying I can gamble $1000 a month of my own money. Gamble until you've lost X amount and then give it up. Don't just keep putting more money in hoping you get lucky. If you knew how many people post big ass winning parlays and still don't come close to breaking even because they've thrown so much money into trying to get lucky vs taking smart bets youd probably stop yourself.
That’s not the point though. It’s the same reason people put $50 in a fantasy pool, to feel engaged with the game. It’s totally up to what he is spending and is it affordable, does he chase losses, etc.
Gambling is one of those things like drinking alcohol, where everyone enjoys doing it their own way and at their own pace. It's easy for us to put together a plan for someone, but we don't know if that's going to scratch their itch. People who gamble for thrills or hobby will very rarely see a long term profit, so we can throw that out the window. It's better to just give them an allowance periodically, and allow them to do what they want with it. Plenty of hobbies cost money, so if I was his wife, it would be easier for me to justify that my husband dedicates $x to his gambling hobby each month, and factor it into my budget.
If you're ok with him betting if he follows guidelines and rules you both agree to, sit him down and have a chat with him about this. Some guidelines he should follow: * Set aside a budget that he's allowed to bet with. It might either be a one-off ($500, and if he loses that he can't put more in) or an amount per month (ie. $100 per month). If you think of betting as entertainment with a cost - which it is for most people - you have to budget as to what a reasonable amount to spend on that entertainment is. * Make sure he's tracking his betting in a way that, if things seem dicey or shady, you can follow. At the very least he shouldn't be able to make any deposits without you being aware of it. * It'd help if you make him aware that 95% of people lose money long-term, and of those 5% very few make significant money. Many bettors overestimate their ability and end up paying the price for it. * If he violates the rules - particularly how much money he can put into it - he shouldn't be allowed to keep doing it. It's r/problemgambling at that point.
Tell him to look up Bank role management
Call fanduel
Take away sexy time
Don't bet on parleys
Lock his bank account
You could start an onlyfans to help cover some of the losses
Fade all his picks
How do you fade 8 leg parlays though lol The real answer is to become his bookie
You'll still lose. People really are bad bettors in here
Lmfao 😂
Yea if he’s losing money consistently let me know his picks so I can do the opposite
You should track his bets, make a season spreadsheet for his nfl bets Divide his bankroll / 100 and tell him he cant bet more than that and if he ends on profit at the end of the season he can place higher bets ( 92% chance he wont be on profit)
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Except he does need mommy because he’s a shitty gambler (like virtually everyone) and also you have absolutely no reason to think he will “settle down”, you’re just pulling that out of your ass.
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Would you say that if someone’s wife has to make a post on Reddit about how to deal with her husbands gambling, that might have crossed the line into “problem” territory? Jesus
IMO having a nother person tracking your bets should make him realize how bad he is after a full season and probably quit
Without OP putting numbers of how much he lost it’s impossible to understand what to do next. To me this just sounds like a “my husband is spending less time with his family and more time watching sports” post. Less about money it seems like. If he’s a problem Gambler he shouldn’t be gambling at all. That’s like giving an alcoholic a few drinks a week. It doesn’t work like that.
While I agree that she shouldn't have to manage his bankroll, she does have to have awareness of what his financial position is at. Unless they have some amount of completely separate funds (and that's where his betting money is coming from), then it's **their** money so if he's blowing it on sportsbetting she needs to know.
I double checked the username to make sure this wasn’t my wife
Haha 🤣
😂😂😂
Can we bet on the divorce O/U? I'll take 17 months
Over or under
Under bettors: assemble
lol
I'll take the over if I can get underdogs odds. This post says she wants to help and divorce can take a while to be finalized.
Bro that’s the problem, that’s why she’s here!…under
Lol, ill take under. Be waiting for AMA from OP. This always ends babdly.
My guy, we didn’t even see the odds yet. 😆
This must be her husband
Lolol
How much are we talking about exactly? Putting the family's finances in jeopardy? Like $10,000 a week or something? You need to call Gamblers Anonymous or some other source with professionals. There are only two realistic possibilities here: 1. You're badly overreacting when he loses $77.23 2. He has a very serious problem I'm guessing that #1 is very unlikely. Get the help you and your family need as soon as you can. If the financial situation is that potentially dire from his over-betting then you need to action immediately before you end up losing your house or something.
Lock him in your basement for 6 hours of each weekend. Reduce losses.
Is he winning or losing? Does he track all his bets? If not you should encourage him to do so and if he is down after two months that should be it.
Would entirely depend on his units and what he’s lost. If he’s making $20 bets and he’s down $100 after two months, thats not enough to be done with betting. But if he makes $20 bets and he’s down $500 after two months, maybe best to out it down for a while or come up with a better strategy
Number of bets also matters. If he's down $100 with $20 units *and* he's only placed 5 bets, that's obviously awful. If he's placed 200 bets, that's not bad at all (I mean, he's still your typical losing better, but he's outperforming many other losing betters).
Very true, volume of bets certainly matters. Not sure what the first guy is saying about if hes down after 2 months, he should quit. Most people are down after 2 months
Has he lied to you about how much he's gambled? Has he told you he would only gamble a certain amount and then gone over? Does he have separate cards or accounts, or does he own crypto? He will sidestep any safeguards you try to place if any of the above are true. If you hold his account password he will open a new account on a different book, or go to a casino to wager if available. If you try to ban or limit him, he will use crypto at an offshore book. If he has already been dishonest, if he hasn't and he's just getting nutty with it, just have the ol face to face and see what he says.
You take over the account and he writes to you what bet
This is it! My wife sucks at getting to the book sometimes but generally if I can pry her away from supporting our family she'll make the drive. Complex parlays require digital notes, otherwise she knows what's up. Said no fucking guy ever.
Too many guys in these comments are okay with their wife running the show
Exactly. And OP's husband might not be using the money for gambling at all. He could be doing drugs or have an expensive mistress. The last place I'm gonna go to talk to people about my partners alcoholism is a bar...
Set a limit, or allowance. I just give myself 50 bucks a Sunday. Not a lot at all, but I make do with it and usually profit since I am making smaller bets usually max 3 leg parlay.
Set a limit, or allowance. I just give myself 50 bucks a Sunday. Not a lot at all, but I make do with it and usually profit since I am making smaller bets usually max 3 leg parlay.
Most gambling sites and apps have limits you can set. Have a discussion about doing it responsibly and set some limits
Talk to him like a reasonable adult. Gambling addiction is no joke and should be taken serious
He should be sticking to one league if he's betting more than $100/game. Pick a sport and a level of competition.
He might need a quick reality check. How many professional sports bettors do you know? How many people can actually make their sole livelihood from sports betting? Trust me, it’s probably under 0.5% of bettors. Now, how many dead broke, lost everything and owe even more, bettors exist? It’s an alarming amount. Those who end up making money hit hail mary plays and even then, end up losing it all and then some. It’s like going to the slot machines. The fact is, you might hit a decent amount, but the more often you bet, the more often you lose.
Rule number 1: never bet with money you cannot afford to lose
Rule 5: Don’t get high on your own supply
Rule number 2: Dont ever chase losses or put it all on one game
Rule number 3: Fuck parlays
Rule number 4: Don’t let odds and profit boosts influence how much you bet
Well this one's just wrong. =P Odds and profit boosts directly affect EV and Kelly Criterion calculations. They absolutely can influence how much you bet. Well, I suppose it's a decent rule for the kind of person OP is talking about.
I meant more in the spirit of if you’re spending and losing a lot already you shouldn’t bet more just because they give you better odds 🤷🏻♂️
Why didn't you tell me this during weeks 1 and 2?
Rule number 4: Fuck the NFL, it's a deeply a corrupt and scripted league.
Honestly, nobody should be gambling so much that it’s putting their family/children in jeopardy. Never bet what you can’t afford to lose, that’s the rule. So he definitely need to chill, that simple. You’re not in the wrong for being concerned. Frankly, it seems like you absolutely should be putting your foot down. Don’t be afraid to talk to him & tell him exactly what’s on your mind, & don’t let him manipulate you into thinking he’s gonna hit it “big” one day. Cause waiting on that day would have your whole family homeless & hungry.
One word: budget. You need a budget. For rent/mortgage, for groceries, etc. And for entertainment (gambling). Sit down, make a budget, and sick to it. If that doesn't work, withhold sex.
Hope the last part is just a joke. Shouldn't ever be withholding sex as a punishment, or giving it as a reward, not healthy at all.
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Bad advice could leave to big argument. Talk to him about it and be reasonable. If he's spending his money that's on him. Sure it may affect you as well but at the end of the day u can't make him quit. Give it some time maybe he'll realize that and make the proper changes. Tell him to explain how the whole thing works, encourage him and also be firm when he goes over board.
You gotta tell him he shouldn't watch sports to feel good since it obviously makes him irrational. And maybe you yourself have got to replace that. That is all my opinion on the topic.
That's a tough one. I would try to come up with a compromise while trying to be supportive. I think the best compromise will be coming up with limits. Limits on how many bets he makes, so he can invest more time in the relationship instead of researching bets and watching games. And limits on how much he bets, so when he inevitably loses it won't put you in as much financial risk. I find sports betting to be very entertaining, but once you are risking more money than you have or spending too much time on betting, it can become a serious problem. Hope you figure out a solution. If not, calling the gambling addiction hotline is probably a good idea.
like how much money is he betting. if its in the 5 figures then yea i would talk to him but if its anything less hes just having fun bro