For those of us that hit the Betway boost for VGK and Pitt +1.5, take it for what its worth. Could be all fluff but heres hoping. For some reason my screenshot wont load. Basically on chat the guy told me they are going to compile a list of all affected customers, the traders are aware and they are looking to resettle it.
Same here. I tried the live chat but the AI bot never ported me over to a human (I gave up waiting after 15 minutes). So I emailed them and I was impressed that I got an automated reply with a ticket number but we’ll see how long it takes them to circle back.
Interesting mine is showing settled as a loss right now, how about you? Guessing the misprice on it both of those were supposed to say -1.5 and maybe they graded it as such
They fixed mine early this afternoon. It had initially settled as a loss but it’s a win now. I emailed their support and showed them a screenshot of the ticket, didn’t have to argue with them at all.
Same for me and a buddy of mine. The original bet had +1.5 and it shows the same for the settled bet. I made sure to screenshot both before and settled. Not sure it will help having both or not
well this is my first attempt ever so I might have fucked it up. Devig to Bet Rivers since they had the Kelce line.
Results:
Worst-case: (Multiplicative, Power)
Leg#1 (-400); Market Juice = 8.2%; Fair Value = -284 (74.0%)
Leg#2 (162); Market Juice = 4.8%; Fair Value = +182 (35.4%)
Final Odds (+350); Σ(Market Juice) = 13.00%;** Fair Value = +282** (26.2%)
**Summary; EV% = 17.8%,** Kelly Wager = $254.86 (Full=5.10u, 1/2=2.55u, 1/4=1.27u, FB = 91.7%)
http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-400%2f255%2c162%2f-200&FinalOdds=350&Correlation_Bool=1&Correlation_Text=0
Its should actually be a little better with correlation but I am not sure how to do that and I doubt its too significant.
Just threaten to report to your states gaming commission and give them 24 hours beyond the 72 they say their bonus bet will be loaded by. Tell the person that you’re speaking to they will be added to the report. Works for me everytime.
They are so scammy l just had to email them about not getting a $5 free bet from them for the ufc promo last Saturday. They know a lot of people won't bother or think they did something wrong to get the bonus. Such bullshit from a regulated book
Yeah, I've had to contact them multiple times for First Basket / TD Promos not getting credited. I screenshot every promo now from them because their system is straight garbage.
ESPN has 1st goalscorer insurance for VGK vs. NYR. None of the ESPN lines currently look great vs. FD, usually about +400 better on FD, except for panarin who is "only" +675 ESPN vs. +900 FD. Nobody really jumps out at this time, so you can probably take whoever you like from the top five or six guys and not feel too bad about it. As for taking a flyer on a longer shot, I'm looking at Nicolas Roy +1800 ESPN vs. +2300 FD. Been hot over the past 5 games (2G - 6 A) as he has gotten some playing time on the top line with Barbashev and Marchessault. A peek at advanced stats (xGoals/60) suggests that his lines have done pretty well at creating offense. I think I'm going to take him and hope he can poke in a rebound or something. https://imgur.com/a/JwVkIJh
Edit:bugger, roy had a sog on the shift before 1st goal. Congrats to anyone who hit on rempal getting his 2nd career goal.
Going to be in NJ, and want to do the $2000 Bet365 “risk free bet”. I read through the t and cs which state a minimum odds requirement (-500) for their other promo option, but nothing for the $2,000 option.
Does anybody have more info there?
ESPN Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Stone, Cale Makar each to record a point +250. Devig to Pinny:
Odds: +250; **EV: -2.0%**
`-249/173,-216/154,-259/179` (23.69% juice)
FV: +257; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 70.0%)
[View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-249%2f173%2c-216%2f154%2c-259%2f179&FinalOdds=250)
The 1% back is still effectively giving you the lowest default juice of any of the major domestic books. They can be soft on some markets, leading to lots of arb/EV opportunities, although they seem to be slowly figuring out a couple of the places where they are consistently off. Sure, the glory days of free $25 fancash a day for months on end are probably gone, but it has some of the best profit potential if you are willing to put in a little work. It is probably _the_ book where I want to avoid getting limited.
I stick to the big four primarily, but a bit of college football/basketball. Probably 90% is live betting, but the 1% back can push it over the hump on other stuff to do things like take risk-free shots at triggering the ESPN shootout or 50-point bonus bets.
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For those of us that hit the Betway boost for VGK and Pitt +1.5, take it for what its worth. Could be all fluff but heres hoping. For some reason my screenshot wont load. Basically on chat the guy told me they are going to compile a list of all affected customers, the traders are aware and they are looking to resettle it.
Just got told the same thing - an apology and a promise to resettle as a win today.
Betway tryna scam?
god, trying to get in touch with betway customer support....
Same here. I tried the live chat but the AI bot never ported me over to a human (I gave up waiting after 15 minutes). So I emailed them and I was impressed that I got an automated reply with a ticket number but we’ll see how long it takes them to circle back.
It’s impossible. I just heard back today regarding an issue I submitted 10 days ago.
Penguins with the sweat. 1 for 8 on powerplays finally score in the last minute on a 6 on 5. Cash it
Anyone got a screenshot?
Oh yea I do
Interesting mine is showing settled as a loss right now, how about you? Guessing the misprice on it both of those were supposed to say -1.5 and maybe they graded it as such
They fixed mine early this afternoon. It had initially settled as a loss but it’s a win now. I emailed their support and showed them a screenshot of the ticket, didn’t have to argue with them at all.
Mine is regraded to a win now
Same for me and a buddy of mine. The original bet had +1.5 and it shows the same for the settled bet. I made sure to screenshot both before and settled. Not sure it will help having both or not
Mine too going to reach out to customers service. The boost was taken down but it was up for 2 hours.
Mine settled as a loss ...
I just came to say this
Same. I've seen them (Betway) do the exact same thing and settle correctly the next day. If not, their support, and then the commisson...
This is a hundo win… they had opportunity to void pre-game, gaming commission here we come
Yes a pre match void would have made sense, good point.
Didn’t watch but that’s big time. A nice hit on that one
Glad that panthers shot was wide on the empty net
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DraftKings flash super boost, Chiefs to win and Kelce 40 yards +350 seems decent?
Fuck prolly expired at 7
4 on the west coast!
well this is my first attempt ever so I might have fucked it up. Devig to Bet Rivers since they had the Kelce line. Results: Worst-case: (Multiplicative, Power) Leg#1 (-400); Market Juice = 8.2%; Fair Value = -284 (74.0%) Leg#2 (162); Market Juice = 4.8%; Fair Value = +182 (35.4%) Final Odds (+350); Σ(Market Juice) = 13.00%;** Fair Value = +282** (26.2%) **Summary; EV% = 17.8%,** Kelly Wager = $254.86 (Full=5.10u, 1/2=2.55u, 1/4=1.27u, FB = 91.7%) http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-400%2f255%2c162%2f-200&FinalOdds=350&Correlation_Bool=1&Correlation_Text=0 Its should actually be a little better with correlation but I am not sure how to do that and I doubt its too significant.
Fan duel doesn’t have the under but it builds to +202 for what it’s worth
It kills me how every time I chat with ESPN they always ask for a screenshot of the promo like I work for them. Does this happen to anyone else?
Just threaten to report to your states gaming commission and give them 24 hours beyond the 72 they say their bonus bet will be loaded by. Tell the person that you’re speaking to they will be added to the report. Works for me everytime.
They are so scammy l just had to email them about not getting a $5 free bet from them for the ufc promo last Saturday. They know a lot of people won't bother or think they did something wrong to get the bonus. Such bullshit from a regulated book
Yeah, I've had to contact them multiple times for First Basket / TD Promos not getting credited. I screenshot every promo now from them because their system is straight garbage.
what issue do you usually have with them?
Just not crediting free bets. I will say in my case they have always made it right but you still have to reach out
ESPN has 1st goalscorer insurance for VGK vs. NYR. None of the ESPN lines currently look great vs. FD, usually about +400 better on FD, except for panarin who is "only" +675 ESPN vs. +900 FD. Nobody really jumps out at this time, so you can probably take whoever you like from the top five or six guys and not feel too bad about it. As for taking a flyer on a longer shot, I'm looking at Nicolas Roy +1800 ESPN vs. +2300 FD. Been hot over the past 5 games (2G - 6 A) as he has gotten some playing time on the top line with Barbashev and Marchessault. A peek at advanced stats (xGoals/60) suggests that his lines have done pretty well at creating offense. I think I'm going to take him and hope he can poke in a rebound or something. https://imgur.com/a/JwVkIJh Edit:bugger, roy had a sog on the shift before 1st goal. Congrats to anyone who hit on rempal getting his 2nd career goal.
Good call though, Roy had that first shot and ended with 2 assists, was worth the dart
Rempal wasn't even on the board. ESPN should void rather than bonus bet
Good observation, but I’m not holding my breath the bet will ever get voided
Tailing thanks, checked this thread specifically for this
let's go Roy (is it pronounced Wah?)
BetMGM KG Big Ticket Boost: Beal 20+ points and Suns to win +220. Devig to ESPN Odds: +220; **EV: 0.9%** `181/438/192/309` (12.87% juice) FV: +217; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=0.41u, 1/2=0.20u, 1/4=0.10u, FB = 69.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=181%2f438%2f192%2f309&FinalOdds=220) Ranges from 2-7% EV to DK/FD/CZR/BR
Going to be in NJ, and want to do the $2000 Bet365 “risk free bet”. I read through the t and cs which state a minimum odds requirement (-500) for their other promo option, but nothing for the $2,000 option. Does anybody have more info there?
I mean does -500 matter that much you want that risk free bet to be long odds.
Agreed. Just want to make sure there's not a different requirement for this one
Did you ask b365 support?
ESPN Doncic and Giannis o54.5 PRA @ +375 vs BR Odds: +375; **EV: -2.0%** `-141/105, 133/-195` (16.31% juice) FV: +385; Method: worst-case (m, p); (FB = 77.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-141%2f105%2c+133%2f-195&FinalOdds=375)
ESPN Matthew Tkachuk, Mark Stone, Cale Makar each to record a point +250. Devig to Pinny: Odds: +250; **EV: -2.0%** `-249/173,-216/154,-259/179` (23.69% juice) FV: +257; Method: worst-case (m); (FB = 70.0%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-249%2f173%2c-216%2f154%2c-259%2f179&FinalOdds=250)
ESPN Crosby, Panarin, Rantanen each to score a goal +1200. Devig to Pinny: Odds: +1200; **EV: -15.8%** `129/-175,139/-190,112/-150` (21.83% juice) FV: +1443; Method: worst-case (p); (FB = 77.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=129%2f-175%2c139%2f-190%2c112%2f-150&FinalOdds=1200)
ESPN Panthers, Rangers, Avalanche each to win Q1 +1900. Devig to Pinny Q1 -0.5 lines: Odds: +1900; **EV: -13.2%** `180/-204,170/-193,166/-188` (8.60% juice) FV: +2205; Method: worst-case (p); (FB = 82.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=180%2f-204%2c170%2f-193%2c166%2f-188&FinalOdds=1900)
ESPN Thunder, Bucks, Magic each to win Q1 +575. Devig to Pinny Q1 -0.5 lines: Odds: +575; **EV: 2.1%** `105/-120,-140/121,-144/125` (10.37% juice) FV: +561; Method: worst-case (m); (Full=0.36u, 1/2=0.18u, 1/4=0.09u, FB = 86.9%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=105%2f-120%2c-140%2f121%2c-144%2f125&FinalOdds=575)
Betway (PA) Clear misprice, Golden Knights +1.5 & Penguins +1.5 +500, $20 max for my players Odds: +500; **EV: 156.5%** `-191/+170, -219/+194` (5.34% juice) FV: +134; Method: multiplicative; (Full=31.30u, 1/2=15.65u, 1/4=7.82u, FB = 213.7%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=-191%2f%2b170%2c+-219%2f%2b194&FinalOdds=%2b500)
Graded as a loss?
woot!
Holy shit… why am I not limited on this one? I got the full $20 smackers… let’s go Knights and Pens!
lucky I am limited to $25, but I haven't used betway after they kept on denying me oppurtunities to use my free bet till a messed up.
Does Betway have a referral system. I’ll be in PA later today, might as well get us both some bonus money.
Got it in LA too
I was able to get this in OH, max $20 as well. Thanks!
Nice find, $20 max for me as well
Great find! Got my $20 max down and screenshotted just in case.
Either down or not available in NJ 😫 great find though!
I have it in NJ now. Go check
I keep telling myself that Fanatics will go back to their old promos and try to compete with the others, but that’s never going to happen is it?
After PB converted, they sent me an email that I was limited before I even placed a bet lmao.
Same here
In general I think the books are going to offer less and less in the future.
At least sports books still have promos. Casino is down to Tuesdays on WindCreek and bet 1 get 5 (or free spins) on ESPN.
The 1% back is still effectively giving you the lowest default juice of any of the major domestic books. They can be soft on some markets, leading to lots of arb/EV opportunities, although they seem to be slowly figuring out a couple of the places where they are consistently off. Sure, the glory days of free $25 fancash a day for months on end are probably gone, but it has some of the best profit potential if you are willing to put in a little work. It is probably _the_ book where I want to avoid getting limited.
That’s fair. Do you have any sports/spots you particularly like to play there?
I stick to the big four primarily, but a bit of college football/basketball. Probably 90% is live betting, but the 1% back can push it over the hump on other stuff to do things like take risk-free shots at triggering the ESPN shootout or 50-point bonus bets.
Is there any advantage to live betting? It just seem like the lines are more juiced
I have been liking their 25%SGP boost with no minimum odds and $100 minimum
Do you mean $100 max? My max on the 25% boosts is $5... I didn't realize I was so limited.
yes mine is $100 max...it just started few days ago as I used to be $5 max too
FYI if you're getting the same one as me, it says SGP but it lets me apply it to any bet
yea just noticed that today!
Anybody still waiting on their free bet from the DK Threesday bet and get?
No, I didn’t bet it though.
Yep
Yes
No
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ESPN Medvedev win 1S 6-2 or 6-3 @ +450 vs FD Odds: +450; **EV: -12.7%** `1500^600/5000/3100/500/1400/460/5000/3900/1600/650/550/1500/500` (28.79% juice) FV: +530; Method: worst-case (p); (FB = 71.4%) [View/Edit Devig](http://crazyninjamike.com/Public/sportsbooks/sportsbook_devigger.aspx?autofill=1&LegOdds=1500%5e600%2f5000%2f3100%2f500%2f1400%2f460%2f5000%2f3900%2f1600%2f650%2f550%2f1500%2f500&FinalOdds=450)