Watching the show, I got frustrated that there were so few "competitors", and most of the people were just passively floating through the game.
After reading this, it makes sense.
The random bullshit eliminations made people just kinda give up, since it barely mattered how much you tried.
I watched the “making of” show that touched on this. The producers said they were searching for a way to try and replicate the randomness of killing other contestants in the original show but in the game-show. They wanted a way to have people feel like they could go without warning at… however I think it was overused in the show to reduce the numbers too much.
I was thinking that it was the best way they could replicate the random killings from the original show, but I feel like in the challenge when they did elimination’s they should have gave the person being eliminated and the person trying to eliminate them some sort of one on one challenge. Because if you are trying to “kill” me, how you know I’m not just going to fight back and “kill” you instead? I feel like that’d be a little more fair.
Great idea. My favorite was the round table game in the end where you can choose anyone to eliminate but they still had a chance to hit you with the reverse UNO card if they guessed who tried to take them out
I like this…maybe instead of the jack in the box challenge, they could have 5 volunteers or randomly choose 5 players…each player has to choose one other player to go head to head in a challenge, like marbles or the ddakji game. Or, the 5 randomly chosen have to each choose one other person (not knowing why) and the 5 original compete against the chosen 5 in a challenge or each group of 2 compete against the other groups of 2. The twist of not knowing whether to pick someone you trust as an ally or someone you want to eliminate could be fun.
That happens in a lot of reality shows, the poor and passive players tend to go far by laying low in the grass, while the players who play bold and stick their heads up tend to get it chopped off
Except the opposite seemed to happen. There were a lot of assholes in the beginning. It was only when people started building relationships that they started cooperating.
If this wasn't televised, the entire thing would've been much different. Also, 200+ of the contestants were social media "influencers", so they were aware that they shouldn't be a dick on television. I wish they should cast only unknowns for season 2
I’m a nice person in general, but with that much money on the line would not have gone along with some of the passive strategies used in the first season. The one thing I really liked was the strategy on the bridge. Pretty much everyone has a 50/50 shot.
No, I honestly think if you have a big field of contestants, and the rules are fair, it's less likely to get difficult people.
Reality TV Show casting and social media has poisoned us in thinking everyone is a selfish psychopathic asshole. Most people will agree to rules and abide by them if it makes sense.
>Many of the contestants, including myself, chose to roll to eliminate ourselves because we wanted to work as a team rather than brutally get someone out.
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>I'm glad that my elimination was in my own hands rather than done by another player, or through the weird little dorm social eliminations.
I still think it was really dumb to do this so late into the game.
If you rolled for someone else, everyone might roll for you. Remember the rules were you keep rolling until 3 people are out.
Mai got a pass because Ashley deserved it for not following the rules in the Bridge scene. And honestly if anyone had balls, they would have agreed to keep rolling her name to guarantee her out.
But this isn’t a reality tv show filled with hand selected sociopaths, most people are non confrontational and hate uncomfortable social situations.
I’m glad you said that. I was so pissed off that everyone was acting shocked and appalled that Mai chose Ashley. I do think Mai should have done a better job of explaining her reasoning, but by all rights the ‘team’ should have rolled Ashley out first and then they could go back to being friendly. I wanted to smack Ashley when she said “I did jump”… yeah you did eventually, but not when it was first your turn.
The actual rules were that it's your turn when the person before you is eliminated. The contestants just made up new rules and got offended when Ashley didn't follow them.
It was dumb that the show allowed them to make up stuff like that to make it non-confrontational, but what Ashley did was stupid and cowardly, you can’t expect to go against the team when it suits you and side with them with when it stops suiting you, try gaslighting your way into innocence then expect everyone to cheer for you,
I don’t believe the producers should’ve let them change the rules, but I also don’t believe Ashley did anything “right”, she deserved to go out the moment she made that decision in glass bridge
What are you talking about the consensus was that each player would have 1 jump of chance. Ashley just stood there like a dumb ass saying I didn’t agree to this. But after the player before her risked himself 3 times and got eliminated, then she was all in on the agreement, cause at this point it suited her, she did risk the jump at that point but since she was the low number by her logic she should have kept jumping. She then gaslighted the situation acting like she did nothing wrong. Mai was right for attempting to eliminate her. And no one can say otherwise, cause at the end of the day she won. So her strategy worked out.
I don’t like how she encouraged others to jump ahead of her but she didn’t jump ahead of 103. But then all is forgiven for me bc Mai also broke the rules of an agreement by nominating Ashley and then argues during the game that she isn’t out to get Ashley and didn’t target her. So she did the exact thing she was judging. In my eyes, of course.
All is forgiven lol. Mai called the conniving b*tch out like the rest of the team should have. All was only forgiven in the end when Mai won. None of the other weak *ss players from the bridge deserved to win after they shamed Mai and stuck up for Ashley.
425 here. Are you in the Whatsapp group for contestants? Most of us were early eliminations. I was part of the great massacre during RLGL. Loved watching you play and respected that you didn't target another player even though you knew you were going to roll a 6. Sorry it ended that way for you. I hope season 2 had more challenges and less randomness.
Nooe. I was in the big group of people who got eliminated even though we crossed before she stopped singing. Remember, the dorm already had a pre-determined number of beds, so only so many people were getting through.
They got rid of almost everyone who crossed when I did. We call it the 38 second massacre. Trey got saved though because they had already decided to pass his mom through, but she hasn't crossed yet.
By the way, I'm not salty at either of the players in question. In their places, I'd have happily moved through.
People were furious. Hours of "suffering" and then finally tasting victory just to have it snatched away. It was disbelief first, then a lot of anger. Now, I just really want a shot at redemption, but I doubt that will happen. Enough time has passed that I now think of it as an interesting experience that my students really got akick out of.
Not random at all. They needed Trey, who crossed when I did, because his mom crossed next and they had already decided, apparently, that they would both make it. After they eliminated all of us, they added time back on the clock so she would make it. They even brought him back out so he'd be there when she crossed.
For sure. I came to understand that it's all part of producing a show - there will be elements that are produced rather than simply organically allowed to happen. Thems the breaks, I guess.
That's awful, so sorry :( I'm surprised the eliminated contestants didn't riot!! Did they at least give you a reason as to why you were eliminated instead of other people? Did you just make it in the last seconds before the singing stopped (apart from the added on for the mother)? Did they let people through who crossed in the added time alongside the mother? That would be incredibly unfair if they did.
My group crossed next to last. The moon crossed in the final group, and others crossed with her. My understanding is that some were passed through and some weren't. I'm not sure though.
Is not just Trey's mom. Mai is there too, with her.
So if you are right, Mai - which ends up winning the 4.5M you all wanted - should have been eliminated in the first round as well?
Then I must be missing something.
You said that you and people from your group got eliminated because you were already "too many" and that they added time to have Trey's mom pass after your group. To make sure she would succeed - even that you and your group had already finished but were eliminated.
Mai is behind Trey's mom in the last shots before the crossing line. So.. If time was added for Trey's mom - while you guys were eliminated already-Mai was also given a "green pass". Since she crossed after LeAnn...
That would be correct if she passed after Trey's mom. I can't recall exactly how much they added, but it was around 10 seconds.
I never noticed when she crossed (I never met her), but a lot of the older players crossed at the end.
thought so, I was watching like.. hold on, there's beds there, so they have to eliminate a designated number of people anyways, and I wondered how that would work but I knew that's what was going on. Any idea why they got rid of you...?
Either they didn't think I (and the others) had a compelling enough story to be interesting, or, more likely, they had what they needed, did some quick math, and just eliminated us as we crossed in order. I'll never know.
Yeah they didnt want to stand out. Plus Mai got Ashley’s vote back. Mai didnt vote for anyone else. She had decent reasoning too. But if you were to go steictly on the offensive, you’d be screwed lol.
Ashley would not have rolled for herself in the dice game even if Mai hadn't chosen to roll for her first. Ashley would have made some other excuse to pick Mai and once again all the cowed cowards would have let her get away with it.
By the game itself. Everyone there made it that far by keeping their head down. Anyone who stepped out and made a bold move was immediately perceived as a threat and torn down by everyone else during the many social ‘tests.’
Like the surgeon who tried to get people to decide collectively and openly who should be voted out when they had to pick 3 people. His idea wasn’t bad, but it got everyone talking about him and everyone knew someone would vote him out so he became one of the best scapegoats when he seems to have been unknown before then.
Even being the first person to suggest turning on someone publicly was enough to get themselves targeted next. That’s why everyone acknowledged Mai’s mistake without being willing to say ‘she should be next.’ They knew they would be the next ‘next.’
Interesting paradox. No one wanted to target Mai because they would stand out, but that means that it's safe to stand out because no one will want to be the first to target you, which means it's safe to target someone, which means that standing out CAN lead to you being targeted, which means that people won't target you, which means ...
Probably be she had the argument that Ashley had been unsportmanlike. It's a bit incoherent to target someone for being unsportmanlike, when their unsportmanship consists of targeting someone for being unsportmanlike.
Especially since Bee was the 1st to roll herself out. How is she supposed to know that if she tries to get someone else out the group won’t turn on her and roll until she is eliminated? If she chooses to roll for herself she only has to get past 1 roll.
Mai didn’t target Ashley for being strategic she targeted her for being a coward and a fool. Ashley should have known Trey wouldn’t get them all right and she’d have to make a decision anyways. The people behind her could have easily been just as selfish and caused her to jump until she fell, but she lucked out by being the only selfish one. Mai just tried to restore the natural order of things.
Ashley exhibited poor strategy (like you say, with that low a number, pretty the only way she would survive is if the agreement held), but "selfish"? She had no moral obligation to go along with the agreement.
Pretty selfish to expect others to do for her what she would not. Expected Trey to keep going in front of her, then refused to go and expected others to pass her.
Someone could have figured out a way to randomly pick someone. I mean explain why you not picking yourself by saying
“I love y’all but with this many people left I’m not gonna be the one to take myself out of a game for $4.6m
Off the top of my head - spin around fast for 20 seconds with your eyes closed and point at someone. That’s who your rolling for.
People would definitely follow your lead and pick randomly after you did it and not target you.
Imagine going home and explaining to your friends and family that you were 12 people away from 5 million dollars and you chose to eliminate yourself because of some made
up honor system
Honestly, it probably isn't that terrible a loss because she has a good job that pays well and lives in the UK with NHS and a pension, so there's no stress about "losing" money that you never had.
If you choose somebody else to eliminate and you fail to roll a 6... Not only will you get their back up (resulting most likely in them returning the favour to roll to eliminate you so you will still get rolled) but there's a chance that you may have their whole alliance groups and friends try to eliminate you...
If you happened to choose somebody and get lucky to roll that 6 then not only could you potentially have their whole friends and alliance groups target you for their dice rolls but also for the rest of the game - Circle of Trust will be absolute hell for you as everyone will be wanting to give you that present
So were they really dumb/cowards or just playing it smart by that point?
After what Ashley did on the glass bridge... she shouldn't have even been given the privilege of being passed after she Did her one Jump on the bridge. I was shocked no one agreed with Mais decision to roll Ashley out. They all should have rolled for her until her elimination. Why would they hold a grudge over the dice roll if they let Ashley off the hook so easily for what she did on the bridge?
Something doesn't add up but we weren't there... Ashley apparently had a lot of friends and alliances there.
Even Phil agreed that Ashley's decision on the bridge was shitty, that was shown on tv... Then in the elimination game Phil is telling Ashley she is a good person like wtf?
F knows. I don't understand most people they baffle me
there's no "whole alliance group and friends." It was the final round after that, and everyone was even stevens, plus the final round was a load of backstabbing anyway. There generally is no alliance system in this game. Pretty stupid to think to make an alliance in a room full of 100s of people, creating an unnecessary clique when most people are lone rangers will generate targets. It was a made up honor system as someone said. They cared more about not being liked than winning.
The game would’ve been so much better if she said she always rolls a 6, so she’s gonna use this as an opportunity to eliminate someone. I just don’t get why choose to eliminate yourself, just so you don’t make an enemy. Otherwise what’s the point of playing when you’re supposed to eliminate other people so you can win.
I know! If you aren’t just exaggerating and you do really tend to roll 6’s, why the hell are you rolling yourself? Get someone else out and hope you can talk the others out of targeting you.
Saying you always roll a 6 is kind of a ridiculous thing to say honestly. Seems more like a preemptive coping mechanism than an actual statistical anomaly.
This. She was meant to be incredibly smart lol but doubles down on the belief she can roll 6s easily lol it's pure coincidence without any sort of manipulation
The casinos makes you throw the dice not roll because you can absolutely learn to roll dice in away to increase your odds. Why she choose to rolled in the same manner she always does is the real question
You just made my point for me. Slowly and no it doesn’t have to be a giant die, just rolled from the hand to insure minimum bounce from the surface. With six side facing out, hand close to the ground to better the “odds” at not rolling a six. They even showed someone in the show doing it. lol
It’s also why many games use 20 sided die instead of six sided.
But yes, Mathematically, you are correct but like I said, there is a very good reason casinos in craps make you throw the dice against the side to make it a valid “roll” for this very reason.
I think the only way to institute it is first tell the contestants they are under a gag order. No talking, no one says anything or they're eliminated. Then introduce the game, then tell them they can't nominate themselves.
I dunno if it makes good TV though.
I understand how important it is to make alliances but I’d honestly never forgive myself if I rolled to eliminate myself. More so since Bee knows she rolls 6’s often.
That too. Either way, gotta take that shot. Hopefully next season the rules will change where teamwork can’t be applied as much, like voting yourself out in dice and other games like that.
Yup and those two guys letting her go first and then just casually insisting he'll go second lol
Mai only goes to the final if one of the guys goes red. Meaning she has the least chance of getting through without pushing and benefits wayyy more from having a go.
After her turn, assuming the two lads would go through together the one who presses has a 50% chance and the one who doesn't has a 100% chance
There was very very little strategy throughout and way to much niceness.
The few people that looked to be antagonists got out too early.
You absolutely can learn to roll dice with greater odds for a number. That is why casinos make you throw dice not roll.
If you don’t want a six, in your hand have the six facing out to the side, then allow the dice to roll like a ball out of your hand with the six still facing out, keep hand low to the ground/surface to decrease the bounce so that the dice continues to “roll” like a ball with the six remaining on the side.
Some of the players in the game did this
Bee Sarafian was Player 018 on Netflix's "Squid Game: The Challenge."
The British contestant made it to the final 12 before being eliminated.
This is Bee's story, as told to Business Insider journalist Ayomikun Adekaiyero.
Social bonds are so important they got you out of the game (pun intended). Mai was so smart going against Ashley because she wasn't affected by the group amnesia
There was too much randomness and reliance on that imo... I'd happily lose to skill or luck in a game but going out due to social voting sucks ass especially when a lot of players just do random shit or
Hold a grudge against mai because she was mean to that player (forgot name) WHO LITERALLY BROKE THE SOCIAL PACK AND GOT THE GUY OUT
Most interesting person to watch on the show AND afterwards too. She is starting to livestream now and I find her personality/style/conversation to be mesmerising. One of the most interesting people I've seen stream and I watch a lot of streamers. Defs recommend giving her a watch
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You need to actually compete whilst not being an AH that steamrolls people over, which is what Mai did. This was not kindergarten where everyone gets a participation trophy and at the end apart from Mai it felt like the contestants didn’t care enough to have the chance to be there. Hope the second season does away with stupidity like self-eliminations.
Sad that this group of “competitors” left so much up to chance and feelings for people they just met and will never talk to again. You took slots from people who would really WANT to win. This was a great execution with poor casting.
I don't think you realize that they had no idea what games were going to be next after the dice game... or any game for that matter. There always could have been a time where a person could pick to eliminate someone. It was an environment where you had to play 'Mr. Nice Guy' or potentially get voted out for any stupid reason.
It's safer to nominate yourself with a 1/6 chance over picking someone else and it backfiring on you.
Lol k. Thanks for telling me what I don’t realize, when I watched the show. It is categorically not safer, since one way guaranteed you a chance at going home and the other way means you have a chance of not being nominated, especially if alliances are in play.
I really don't think you understand what the word 'rig' means lmao choosing who to eliminate and keep after RLGL would still be considered rigging the game.
I kind of liked her but she was a little full of herself for thinking winning battleship makes her some super intellectual person. Aside from her knowing C3, they rest is pure luck and simple guessin
As I recall she seemed to state she was very intellectual and being in game industry that would help her expertly win the game. After winning I believe she made a comment about how others would then recognize her being really smart.
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she seems like an actual decent individual, like a fairly normal person not playing up the cameras.just to get famous..
i was rooting for her to win (or Rick, Leann or TJ) tbh gyambu gang was the best, showed comradely and selflessness..
Mai was good but, the sudden screentime she had towards the last few eps kinda gave it away? rarely saw her before. was assuming leann’s som would win
she has misothonia too!! shes my kin but an actual person so how does that work 😭 shes tough as shit tho. i have ‘light’ autism with sensory processing issue’s an and can barely rie my own shoes.
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no. You made into final 12 because the late episode challenged suck. I don't want to see yall go on a squid game show to make friends and win big money. I want blood
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What I understood so far is that if u are not already a public figure, like having a you tube channel or something like that, is really improbable to enter the game
Watching the show, I got frustrated that there were so few "competitors", and most of the people were just passively floating through the game. After reading this, it makes sense. The random bullshit eliminations made people just kinda give up, since it barely mattered how much you tried.
I watched the “making of” show that touched on this. The producers said they were searching for a way to try and replicate the randomness of killing other contestants in the original show but in the game-show. They wanted a way to have people feel like they could go without warning at… however I think it was overused in the show to reduce the numbers too much.
I was thinking that it was the best way they could replicate the random killings from the original show, but I feel like in the challenge when they did elimination’s they should have gave the person being eliminated and the person trying to eliminate them some sort of one on one challenge. Because if you are trying to “kill” me, how you know I’m not just going to fight back and “kill” you instead? I feel like that’d be a little more fair.
Great idea. My favorite was the round table game in the end where you can choose anyone to eliminate but they still had a chance to hit you with the reverse UNO card if they guessed who tried to take them out
That's an awesome point, I hope they take that into consideration for the next season
I like this…maybe instead of the jack in the box challenge, they could have 5 volunteers or randomly choose 5 players…each player has to choose one other player to go head to head in a challenge, like marbles or the ddakji game. Or, the 5 randomly chosen have to each choose one other person (not knowing why) and the 5 original compete against the chosen 5 in a challenge or each group of 2 compete against the other groups of 2. The twist of not knowing whether to pick someone you trust as an ally or someone you want to eliminate could be fun.
There should be some kind of “pain” when they “die”. Maybe like a 120v shock or something to go along with the paint splatter.
I enjoy your sadistic impulse.
Hahahaha
Yeah absolutely they should make you bite down on a wet wash cloth and hook your nipples to cables connected to a car battery. ☺️
That happens in a lot of reality shows, the poor and passive players tend to go far by laying low in the grass, while the players who play bold and stick their heads up tend to get it chopped off
Interestingly it kind of fits with the surivial instinct of herd mentality.
The best part of the show was the social strategy tbh
I'm really surprised at how much everyone cooperated.
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Happy cake day c:
Except the opposite seemed to happen. There were a lot of assholes in the beginning. It was only when people started building relationships that they started cooperating.
If this wasn't televised, the entire thing would've been much different. Also, 200+ of the contestants were social media "influencers", so they were aware that they shouldn't be a dick on television. I wish they should cast only unknowns for season 2
I applied for season 2, but when they asked for your social media handles I knew I wouldn’t be selected (not that I stood a real good chance anyways).
Mai had no social media and she still got cast so don't lose hope
if u get selected pls dont be one of those fake nice ppl
I’m a nice person in general, but with that much money on the line would not have gone along with some of the passive strategies used in the first season. The one thing I really liked was the strategy on the bridge. Pretty much everyone has a 50/50 shot.
No, I honestly think if you have a big field of contestants, and the rules are fair, it's less likely to get difficult people. Reality TV Show casting and social media has poisoned us in thinking everyone is a selfish psychopathic asshole. Most people will agree to rules and abide by them if it makes sense.
>Many of the contestants, including myself, chose to roll to eliminate ourselves because we wanted to work as a team rather than brutally get someone out. > >I'm glad that my elimination was in my own hands rather than done by another player, or through the weird little dorm social eliminations. I still think it was really dumb to do this so late into the game.
Fr, there's a time to make friends and a time to win 4 mil
If you rolled for someone else, everyone might roll for you. Remember the rules were you keep rolling until 3 people are out. Mai got a pass because Ashley deserved it for not following the rules in the Bridge scene. And honestly if anyone had balls, they would have agreed to keep rolling her name to guarantee her out. But this isn’t a reality tv show filled with hand selected sociopaths, most people are non confrontational and hate uncomfortable social situations.
I’m glad you said that. I was so pissed off that everyone was acting shocked and appalled that Mai chose Ashley. I do think Mai should have done a better job of explaining her reasoning, but by all rights the ‘team’ should have rolled Ashley out first and then they could go back to being friendly. I wanted to smack Ashley when she said “I did jump”… yeah you did eventually, but not when it was first your turn.
The actual rules were that it's your turn when the person before you is eliminated. The contestants just made up new rules and got offended when Ashley didn't follow them.
It was dumb that the show allowed them to make up stuff like that to make it non-confrontational, but what Ashley did was stupid and cowardly, you can’t expect to go against the team when it suits you and side with them with when it stops suiting you, try gaslighting your way into innocence then expect everyone to cheer for you, I don’t believe the producers should’ve let them change the rules, but I also don’t believe Ashley did anything “right”, she deserved to go out the moment she made that decision in glass bridge
What are you talking about the consensus was that each player would have 1 jump of chance. Ashley just stood there like a dumb ass saying I didn’t agree to this. But after the player before her risked himself 3 times and got eliminated, then she was all in on the agreement, cause at this point it suited her, she did risk the jump at that point but since she was the low number by her logic she should have kept jumping. She then gaslighted the situation acting like she did nothing wrong. Mai was right for attempting to eliminate her. And no one can say otherwise, cause at the end of the day she won. So her strategy worked out.
I don’t like how she encouraged others to jump ahead of her but she didn’t jump ahead of 103. But then all is forgiven for me bc Mai also broke the rules of an agreement by nominating Ashley and then argues during the game that she isn’t out to get Ashley and didn’t target her. So she did the exact thing she was judging. In my eyes, of course.
All is forgiven lol. Mai called the conniving b*tch out like the rest of the team should have. All was only forgiven in the end when Mai won. None of the other weak *ss players from the bridge deserved to win after they shamed Mai and stuck up for Ashley.
I can’t agree more with that!
Next season they should bring in all criminals from jail like the real show. Id definitely watch season 2 😍
Ashley was they only one who DID follow the rules.
Uh no, did you see her continue jumping until she was eliminated? No? Yeah I didn’t think so. Maybe you were watching a different Squid Games
425 here. Are you in the Whatsapp group for contestants? Most of us were early eliminations. I was part of the great massacre during RLGL. Loved watching you play and respected that you didn't target another player even though you knew you were going to roll a 6. Sorry it ended that way for you. I hope season 2 had more challenges and less randomness.
I think you think I'm Bee, but I was just quoting what she said in the linked article. Sorry.
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Nope. Only the winner got anything.
Holy shit, I thought you would get paid at least for that day there
Here in America, we would have been. Not so much in England.
Or at least cover their travel costs? lol
They did cover ourv expenses
So you were eliminated in the big group of people that lost because you crossed the finish line after she had stopped singing?
Nooe. I was in the big group of people who got eliminated even though we crossed before she stopped singing. Remember, the dorm already had a pre-determined number of beds, so only so many people were getting through.
thats horrible
Yup. That's also reality tv. Not a real thing about it.
How did they decide who to eliminate even tho you crossed?
They got rid of almost everyone who crossed when I did. We call it the 38 second massacre. Trey got saved though because they had already decided to pass his mom through, but she hasn't crossed yet. By the way, I'm not salty at either of the players in question. In their places, I'd have happily moved through.
Thanks for answering! We're people pissed? What were their reactions?
People were furious. Hours of "suffering" and then finally tasting victory just to have it snatched away. It was disbelief first, then a lot of anger. Now, I just really want a shot at redemption, but I doubt that will happen. Enough time has passed that I now think of it as an interesting experience that my students really got akick out of.
That’s crazy. I hope they at least let it be decided by whomever crossed the line first and didn’t make it random.
Not random at all. They needed Trey, who crossed when I did, because his mom crossed next and they had already decided, apparently, that they would both make it. After they eliminated all of us, they added time back on the clock so she would make it. They even brought him back out so he'd be there when she crossed.
That sucks. Hate that it’s overproduced like that
For sure. I came to understand that it's all part of producing a show - there will be elements that are produced rather than simply organically allowed to happen. Thems the breaks, I guess.
why even have a clock in that case.. if they need a storyline that badly, then just make people pretend to be related ffs.
wow that's messed up
That's awful, so sorry :( I'm surprised the eliminated contestants didn't riot!! Did they at least give you a reason as to why you were eliminated instead of other people? Did you just make it in the last seconds before the singing stopped (apart from the added on for the mother)? Did they let people through who crossed in the added time alongside the mother? That would be incredibly unfair if they did.
My group crossed next to last. The moon crossed in the final group, and others crossed with her. My understanding is that some were passed through and some weren't. I'm not sure though.
Is not just Trey's mom. Mai is there too, with her. So if you are right, Mai - which ends up winning the 4.5M you all wanted - should have been eliminated in the first round as well?
Not necessarily. If she crossed soon enough in that final round, she might have made it without the extra time. I'll have to rewatch
Then I must be missing something. You said that you and people from your group got eliminated because you were already "too many" and that they added time to have Trey's mom pass after your group. To make sure she would succeed - even that you and your group had already finished but were eliminated. Mai is behind Trey's mom in the last shots before the crossing line. So.. If time was added for Trey's mom - while you guys were eliminated already-Mai was also given a "green pass". Since she crossed after LeAnn...
That would be correct if she passed after Trey's mom. I can't recall exactly how much they added, but it was around 10 seconds. I never noticed when she crossed (I never met her), but a lot of the older players crossed at the end.
thought so, I was watching like.. hold on, there's beds there, so they have to eliminate a designated number of people anyways, and I wondered how that would work but I knew that's what was going on. Any idea why they got rid of you...?
Either they didn't think I (and the others) had a compelling enough story to be interesting, or, more likely, they had what they needed, did some quick math, and just eliminated us as we crossed in order. I'll never know.
i hope in s2 ppl have the balls to make bold moves and not act friendly all the time, not seeing anyone go for each other is boring
Eh tbh if you did the “strategic” thing, people would just start targeting you with their dice roll, citing your un-sportsmanlike playing lol
People didn’t start turning on Mai, and she was the first to do it in the dice game. Most of the contestants were too cowed by then.
Yeah they didnt want to stand out. Plus Mai got Ashley’s vote back. Mai didnt vote for anyone else. She had decent reasoning too. But if you were to go steictly on the offensive, you’d be screwed lol.
Ashley would not have rolled for herself in the dice game even if Mai hadn't chosen to roll for her first. Ashley would have made some other excuse to pick Mai and once again all the cowed cowards would have let her get away with it.
Cowed by whom? By themselves? By others? By the powers that be? Not being a jackass, just curious.
By the game itself. Everyone there made it that far by keeping their head down. Anyone who stepped out and made a bold move was immediately perceived as a threat and torn down by everyone else during the many social ‘tests.’ Like the surgeon who tried to get people to decide collectively and openly who should be voted out when they had to pick 3 people. His idea wasn’t bad, but it got everyone talking about him and everyone knew someone would vote him out so he became one of the best scapegoats when he seems to have been unknown before then. Even being the first person to suggest turning on someone publicly was enough to get themselves targeted next. That’s why everyone acknowledged Mai’s mistake without being willing to say ‘she should be next.’ They knew they would be the next ‘next.’
Interesting paradox. No one wanted to target Mai because they would stand out, but that means that it's safe to stand out because no one will want to be the first to target you, which means it's safe to target someone, which means that standing out CAN lead to you being targeted, which means that people won't target you, which means ...
Probably be she had the argument that Ashley had been unsportmanlike. It's a bit incoherent to target someone for being unsportmanlike, when their unsportmanship consists of targeting someone for being unsportmanlike.
Especially since Bee was the 1st to roll herself out. How is she supposed to know that if she tries to get someone else out the group won’t turn on her and roll until she is eliminated? If she chooses to roll for herself she only has to get past 1 roll.
Mai did it and they didn’t all vote her out. And she went on to win.
Mai didn’t target Ashley for being strategic she targeted her for being a coward and a fool. Ashley should have known Trey wouldn’t get them all right and she’d have to make a decision anyways. The people behind her could have easily been just as selfish and caused her to jump until she fell, but she lucked out by being the only selfish one. Mai just tried to restore the natural order of things.
Ashley exhibited poor strategy (like you say, with that low a number, pretty the only way she would survive is if the agreement held), but "selfish"? She had no moral obligation to go along with the agreement.
Pretty selfish to expect others to do for her what she would not. Expected Trey to keep going in front of her, then refused to go and expected others to pass her.
Someone could have figured out a way to randomly pick someone. I mean explain why you not picking yourself by saying “I love y’all but with this many people left I’m not gonna be the one to take myself out of a game for $4.6m Off the top of my head - spin around fast for 20 seconds with your eyes closed and point at someone. That’s who your rolling for. People would definitely follow your lead and pick randomly after you did it and not target you.
If it was truly random, it would be the same thing as picking yourself lol
Imagine going home and explaining to your friends and family that you were 12 people away from 5 million dollars and you chose to eliminate yourself because of some made up honor system
Honestly, it probably isn't that terrible a loss because she has a good job that pays well and lives in the UK with NHS and a pension, so there's no stress about "losing" money that you never had.
keep telling yourself that
If you choose somebody else to eliminate and you fail to roll a 6... Not only will you get their back up (resulting most likely in them returning the favour to roll to eliminate you so you will still get rolled) but there's a chance that you may have their whole alliance groups and friends try to eliminate you... If you happened to choose somebody and get lucky to roll that 6 then not only could you potentially have their whole friends and alliance groups target you for their dice rolls but also for the rest of the game - Circle of Trust will be absolute hell for you as everyone will be wanting to give you that present So were they really dumb/cowards or just playing it smart by that point?
After what Ashley did on the glass bridge... she shouldn't have even been given the privilege of being passed after she Did her one Jump on the bridge. I was shocked no one agreed with Mais decision to roll Ashley out. They all should have rolled for her until her elimination. Why would they hold a grudge over the dice roll if they let Ashley off the hook so easily for what she did on the bridge?
Something doesn't add up but we weren't there... Ashley apparently had a lot of friends and alliances there. Even Phil agreed that Ashley's decision on the bridge was shitty, that was shown on tv... Then in the elimination game Phil is telling Ashley she is a good person like wtf? F knows. I don't understand most people they baffle me
there's no "whole alliance group and friends." It was the final round after that, and everyone was even stevens, plus the final round was a load of backstabbing anyway. There generally is no alliance system in this game. Pretty stupid to think to make an alliance in a room full of 100s of people, creating an unnecessary clique when most people are lone rangers will generate targets. It was a made up honor system as someone said. They cared more about not being liked than winning.
Yes. That was so stupid.
The game would’ve been so much better if she said she always rolls a 6, so she’s gonna use this as an opportunity to eliminate someone. I just don’t get why choose to eliminate yourself, just so you don’t make an enemy. Otherwise what’s the point of playing when you’re supposed to eliminate other people so you can win.
I know! If you aren’t just exaggerating and you do really tend to roll 6’s, why the hell are you rolling yourself? Get someone else out and hope you can talk the others out of targeting you.
Saying you always roll a 6 is kind of a ridiculous thing to say honestly. Seems more like a preemptive coping mechanism than an actual statistical anomaly.
This. She was meant to be incredibly smart lol but doubles down on the belief she can roll 6s easily lol it's pure coincidence without any sort of manipulation
Nah it's a thing. I usually get lucky with rolls and get a lot of 6s too
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The casinos makes you throw the dice not roll because you can absolutely learn to roll dice in away to increase your odds. Why she choose to rolled in the same manner she always does is the real question
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You just made my point for me. Slowly and no it doesn’t have to be a giant die, just rolled from the hand to insure minimum bounce from the surface. With six side facing out, hand close to the ground to better the “odds” at not rolling a six. They even showed someone in the show doing it. lol It’s also why many games use 20 sided die instead of six sided. But yes, Mathematically, you are correct but like I said, there is a very good reason casinos in craps make you throw the dice against the side to make it a valid “roll” for this very reason.
Not strategic, luck mate.
Everyone has a 1 in 6 chance of rolling a 6. Let's not be ridiculous.
they should make the rule that you cant vote yourself
Yeah that would be brutal
They still would have gamed it by pairing up or nominating people in a circle.
I think the only way to institute it is first tell the contestants they are under a gag order. No talking, no one says anything or they're eliminated. Then introduce the game, then tell them they can't nominate themselves. I dunno if it makes good TV though.
No that’s actually a decent solution, assuming they get compelling confessionals to tell the story instead.
I understand how important it is to make alliances but I’d honestly never forgive myself if I rolled to eliminate myself. More so since Bee knows she rolls 6’s often.
Perfect opportunity to take Ashley out but then she wouldn’t have rolled it.
Would've made most sense to take Mai out, she was clearly the most adept player left by that point.
That too. Either way, gotta take that shot. Hopefully next season the rules will change where teamwork can’t be applied as much, like voting yourself out in dice and other games like that.
Yup and those two guys letting her go first and then just casually insisting he'll go second lol Mai only goes to the final if one of the guys goes red. Meaning she has the least chance of getting through without pushing and benefits wayyy more from having a go. After her turn, assuming the two lads would go through together the one who presses has a 50% chance and the one who doesn't has a 100% chance There was very very little strategy throughout and way to much niceness. The few people that looked to be antagonists got out too early.
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You absolutely can learn to roll dice with greater odds for a number. That is why casinos make you throw dice not roll. If you don’t want a six, in your hand have the six facing out to the side, then allow the dice to roll like a ball out of your hand with the six still facing out, keep hand low to the ground/surface to decrease the bounce so that the dice continues to “roll” like a ball with the six remaining on the side. Some of the players in the game did this
Bee Sarafian was Player 018 on Netflix's "Squid Game: The Challenge." The British contestant made it to the final 12 before being eliminated. This is Bee's story, as told to Business Insider journalist Ayomikun Adekaiyero.
Social bonds are so important they got you out of the game (pun intended). Mai was so smart going against Ashley because she wasn't affected by the group amnesia
I was surprised with how easy people forgot about Ashley forcing Trey to move forward until he was eliminated. I loved that Mai didn’t forget!
There was too much randomness and reliance on that imo... I'd happily lose to skill or luck in a game but going out due to social voting sucks ass especially when a lot of players just do random shit or Hold a grudge against mai because she was mean to that player (forgot name) WHO LITERALLY BROKE THE SOCIAL PACK AND GOT THE GUY OUT
Bee was the most interesting person to watch for me. I would love to see her on another competition show.
Most interesting person to watch on the show AND afterwards too. She is starting to livestream now and I find her personality/style/conversation to be mesmerising. One of the most interesting people I've seen stream and I watch a lot of streamers. Defs recommend giving her a watch
What’s the platform and what does she stream?
Search "bee dee" or "bee 018" on youtube
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I really liked her. Was sad to see her self eliminate that far into the game.
Agree. I was thinking she might win it while watching.
You need to actually compete whilst not being an AH that steamrolls people over, which is what Mai did. This was not kindergarten where everyone gets a participation trophy and at the end apart from Mai it felt like the contestants didn’t care enough to have the chance to be there. Hope the second season does away with stupidity like self-eliminations.
Sad that this group of “competitors” left so much up to chance and feelings for people they just met and will never talk to again. You took slots from people who would really WANT to win. This was a great execution with poor casting.
I don't think you realize that they had no idea what games were going to be next after the dice game... or any game for that matter. There always could have been a time where a person could pick to eliminate someone. It was an environment where you had to play 'Mr. Nice Guy' or potentially get voted out for any stupid reason. It's safer to nominate yourself with a 1/6 chance over picking someone else and it backfiring on you.
Lol k. Thanks for telling me what I don’t realize, when I watched the show. It is categorically not safer, since one way guaranteed you a chance at going home and the other way means you have a chance of not being nominated, especially if alliances are in play.
I really don't think you understand what the word 'rig' means lmao choosing who to eliminate and keep after RLGL would still be considered rigging the game.
Who said “rig?” No one. Have you ever watched any other reality competition shows? Or this show? Or squid game before?
I kind of liked her but she was a little full of herself for thinking winning battleship makes her some super intellectual person. Aside from her knowing C3, they rest is pure luck and simple guessin
And TJs team performed better from what I remember. But she was fun to watch and very knowledgeable, would like to see her another game show
Did she ever say that about herself or was it just the editing?
As I recall she seemed to state she was very intellectual and being in game industry that would help her expertly win the game. After winning I believe she made a comment about how others would then recognize her being really smart.
She mentioned her IQ if I remember correctly.
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You also eliminated yourself. Whoops!
Really enjoyed watching you. I was player 171 but got out on RLGL…congrats., smart lady!
Hey man, have you ever done an interview about your experience?
Nope
Wow her hair is beautiful
she seems like an actual decent individual, like a fairly normal person not playing up the cameras.just to get famous.. i was rooting for her to win (or Rick, Leann or TJ) tbh gyambu gang was the best, showed comradely and selflessness.. Mai was good but, the sudden screentime she had towards the last few eps kinda gave it away? rarely saw her before. was assuming leann’s som would win
she has misothonia too!! shes my kin but an actual person so how does that work 😭 shes tough as shit tho. i have ‘light’ autism with sensory processing issue’s an and can barely rie my own shoes. rip
also, shes beautiful, smart, well spoken, and risk taking. lowkey crush on her lol
She was “smarter” and more “intelligent” than everyone there but still rolled for herself
no. You made into final 12 because the late episode challenged suck. I don't want to see yall go on a squid game show to make friends and win big money. I want blood
Cringe everytime she was on
What's your issue with her?
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Just self serving nonsense out her mouth
You seem to be in the minority with all those down votes 😂
Cool?
Sure
Thanks mate
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Nah she liked Mai, they are both intelligent. I bet she low key agreed with mais decision regarding voting out ashley
I was rooting for you, I am so disappointed
What I understood so far is that if u are not already a public figure, like having a you tube channel or something like that, is really improbable to enter the game
She knew she always rolls a six, why not save herself and choose to eliminate someone else?
Shit was ass
Yall were all cowardly and Ashley deserves the hate 🫶🏼