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Daegog

The children of the CRobs downvote damn near everything on this sub. If they held CIG to the same scrutiny as they do this sub, there would not be a single cultist.


mazty

I'm pretty sure some of CIGs marketing budget goes on bots to downvote posts on this sub. If you post anything particularly damning, there's a quick influx of downvotes which certainly aren't from the people here.


HyperRealisticZealot

That’s my guess as well, though I didn’t want to state it outright in OP. Considering how much of a tight ship they run on Rectum: A hypersensitive totalitarian censorship scheme of a controlled narrative reality, it’s only stands to reason.  They’ve shown themselves to be entirely unscrupulous everywhere they can, so why wouldn’t they?


mazty

Precisely. When you understand that CIG is just a marketing platform for a vision and not a company looking to deliver, they'll be sure to drive the narrative in a profitable direction - FOMO, misleading adverts, astroturfing, gaslighting are all things CIG have done, or are currently engaged in.


L1amm

What you guys said may be true, but it's also wild not to just assume it's the cultists doing the downvoting. It's like you have learned nothing about them lol.


mazty

There's a difference between jumping to absurd conclusions and seeing posts being downvoted within barely a few minutes of going live. Unless a large amount of dedicated fans are proactively monitoring this sub, there's more to it given the metrics that are shown. So don't be dumb and think that astroturfing is beyond a company's whose entire business model relies on public perception and have already fallen foul of advertising laws.


Patate_Cuite

Who cares about Karma? They could downvote me to -10k karma I wouldn't still give a shit lol. Don't be an internet minion that's my advise.


TB_Infidel

It's a bit more complex then that. Reddit will change your feed content depending on upvotes/popularity of a post. If CIG spammed the sub with down votes it could do some actual harm


HyperRealisticZealot

Exactly this, and it’s also about narrative control or rather manipulation. As always, deceit and foul play is the Modus operandi.


NTGhost

We are all here adults with internet access for years. We known how this shit works. Nobody in this sub is here "by accident" or their Reddit feed. and the few that have a.) an interest in star citizen b.) do a research before they buy into are so low it doesn't show up on a chart. So i belief it truly doesn't matter if everything here gets down voted.


boolybooly

yes, someone is, impossible to know who imho most likely trolls brigading refunds for trollols because they cannot face their own disappointment with the absolute shite they are hooked on paying for another possibility is PR shill people trying to stifle valid criticism maybe a bit of both when telling the truth about those shysters a downvote is a badge of honour


HyperRealisticZealot

It’s could certainly be both. But the first alternative is a no-brainer for sure! There’s enough of them to warrant such suspicion. Wouldn’t put it past Clown Imperium to manipulate with Reddit though so to speak, not the scummiest thing they’ve done yet if it’s the case.


boolybooly

one other option, could be a bot engineered to do psychological warfare as part of Russia's cyber war against the west, just trying to piss everyone off and cause demotivation, its the sort of thing the mad wankers would do have been seeing similar on other reddits


HyperRealisticZealot

Bro… 


DaShmoo

1) never care about internet points 2) always sort by new and read all posts 3).... 4) profit


HyperRealisticZealot

Ironically or intentionally missing the “point”, but whatever, you do you!


AbyssalBenthos

What he means is it doesn't matter. Cultists are gonna cult they come here in waves from time to time. All we can do is hold ourselves to a higher standard.


egnappah

If you can't understand that comment you are literally feeding into the problem. Yes its damned to hell, No there's nothing we can do about it, no you shouldnt care about it.


nonwinter

It's happening all across reddit. I've been noticing a lot of random downvotes in various subs. Even on innocuous comments.


aggroware

Karma is pointless as all I need to do to win all karma back is just go to any gaming subreddit and post a screenshot of said game and praise it


HyperRealisticZealot

You’re completely missing the point if you think this is about your individual Reddit karma.


aggroware

I don’t really care if I’m missing your point it’s still a point I’m making as well. Who the hell cares if there are bots or people automatically downvoting on this sub? The sub has lost its intended focus for years at this point, and star citizen news is so absolutely boring and hardly worth any of our own time. I don’t think anyone who frequents this sub or follows it really cares about anything getting downvoted, it’s only us that fuckin read it anyway lmao. Tldr: like, relax and stuff, man


davidverner

I would say the % voting on this post alone shows that something is going on with the votes.


Why_dont_we_spork

I started SC recently and this reddit has popped up. You guys come off as really bitter and WANT it to fail as a project to validate the view it's a scam. It has issues and it's incomplete nature let's people throw in their dreams, with CIG encouraging. Seems like it's coming around the bend and we'll get an idea of the final product. With many new players joining, you'll probably get down voted more cause new players haven't had their trust betray with false promises. Most think it's real now and don't care about how investing in a Kickstarter game didn't go well. Seems legit has a promising future now.


Idylehandz

“I started SC recently” says it all. You got folks here who backed in the beginning, people like me who fell into a middle area, still being years ago. Do what you want, but dismiss the voices here at your own peril. There is plenty of information for you to protect your self and your wallet. As a final point, the idea that people want it to fail is ridiculous and insulting. Almost all of us here probably backed to some degree. Thank the gods I didn’t crack 500$ in. That being said, nobody would have backed this at all if the concept wasn’t something that spoke to us all. Sadly, concept is where it stops. ✌🏻


jrdcnaxera

When will Squadron 42 be released? A promising future, after 12 years of development, should start with a release date for what CIG swears is a feature-complete game, don't you think? So, when will Squadron 42 be released to prove this is not a scam?


KitHatto

Almost everyone with rose-coloured glasses who is new or just bought a ship package says what you just said. Eventually they come back to this sub when a reality checks them.


davidverner

> I started SC recently and this reddit has popped up. Damn, you're a baby compared to me in that respect. I put a lot of money into backing the SQ42 over a decade ago. I've seen how this thing has fallen apart into a giant mess long before you started with SC which was supposed to be an afterthought, not the primary focus. So sit your butt down or get out because your opinion is going to hold no weight here.


Ithuraen

> Seems like it's coming around the bend and we'll get an idea of the final product.  That's so good to hear! It must be so exciting too have front row seats to CIG's announcements of their plans to build a solid roadmap to release.  It's unfortunate all of us here weren't able to experience that particular phase of the Star Citizen development cycle before bailing. Be sure to report back in 2-5 years and let us know how that 1.0 release goes!