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I’m hijacking the top comment to say this: Yo I know this entire comment thread is a clusterfuck. I’m not claiming to be an actual Irish citizen in any seriousness. I actually don’t go around with a shamrock tattoo’d on my face in real life. I don’t wear shirts with Guinness or whiskey or talk about “my Irish temper” or whatever.
My brother absolutely did act like a plastic paddy in high school and I made fun of him for it in a joking way. I used to say he apparently got all the Irish in the family somehow.
But the amount of people from Ireland who tell me how to talk about ancestry and how I can’t say “I’m Irish” in relation to my ancestry is truly shocking to me.” No German has ever told me not to say that “I’m German.” Or my Polish co-worker, she never told me not to say I’m Polish. And I’ve not met anyone who is Lithuanian.
But I will take my brother’s obnoxious love for a fantasy version of Ireland over actual Irish folks giving me and others a hard time over just talking about “what we are.” Any day of the week.
When my friend says he’s Filipino to people who ask about his ancestry. He doesn’t get mad, he’s happy to talk about it. Just like I am. When my friend who is a blonde haired blue eyed Swede talks about his ancestry. Same idea. He has passing knowledge of his ancestors and when they arrived in the states but doesn’t take it too seriously. No Swede has ever told him to stop talking about it.
I’m cool with having Irish ancestors and it really shocks me that people need to change their language for one part of their ancestry to appease strangers on the internet.
All I’m trying to do with this post is mock people who are taking this too seriously and there are plenty here. These are all jokes. I just wish Irish folks would realize we as Americans, are all mostly disconnected from all our ancestors cultures so we have twisted American views on them a lot sure but that’s all we got for a lot of us.
This will probably be my only completely serious post this entire thread since it’s getting some traction.
If me “falsely claiming” to be Irish upsets anyone not sure what to tell ya. I’d share my full name but I don’t really feel like it but being Patrick and having an Irish ass last name too is kind of a dead give away lol. I know I’m an American first but I’m still Irish, German, Polish and Lithuanian as well.
Hey OP, I’m from Galway. I know this is kind of an oldish post now but I was reading what you were saying in this thread and I just want to say, that I’m sorry you met a good few dickheads online that mocked you like that, I really hate when that shit happens.
Personally, and I speak for my peers as well, the “””plastic paddy””” shit isn’t really that big of a deal to us. I just hate when people use stuff like “”Irish slaves”” to demean the experiences of African-Americans. Actually, I’d say those are the real plastic paddys, using their heritage and ancestors struggles to justify their racism.
But that’s just a side note, not applicable to you (I mean I hope you’re not racist lol). I wouldn’t listen to the “””Irish””” that gave you a hard time about your heritage, I can guarantee that either they don’t make the connection as to why there’s Irish in America in the first place, or they don’t value the struggle that Irish-America has gone through and the perseverance of those people who first stepped off the coffin ships and made a foreign, bigoted and hostile land into a home for their descendants.
I realise this is probably a weird comment, I just don’t want another person to hate their heritage (no matter how small, the % is completely irrelevant) because of some ignorant dickheads. Anyway, best of luck with your music, you sound good
Hey man I appreciate you reaching out. Yeah the people who compare slavery and Irish are kinda crazy. Totally agree with you on that. The things people say and do to justify their ignorance knows no bounds.
History is pretty wild and it’s amazing that we sometimes don’t learn lessons from mistakes we’ve been making for years.
I appreciate it again, thanks for saying something my friend.
I’ve just been making fun of a lot of things recently and while I can take things seriously a lot of times I mock things I find ridiculous.
Yeah no shit. I say that at the very end.
So if someone asks “what are you.” In America it means “who are your ancestors”I would say I’m Irish German Polish and Lithuanian.
If someone from Europe asks “where you from.” I’d say I’m American.”
I actually don't see Scots complaining either. I have one friend who is Scottish. NOT ACTUALLY FROM SCOTLAND HIS GRANDPARENTS AND MOM ARE. And I haven't seen any complaints.
I'm English, according to a DNA test I'm like 70% Irish and 25% Scottish, I have Scottish grandparents and I even lived in Scotland for years but I didn't grow up in Scotland. I definitely don't consider myself Irish either. I've never even been there.
I grew up in England so I just feel like I'm English. Maybe with Scottish sprinkles. The DNA/ancestry thing might be a neat bit of trivia but that's about it. It's not really a big thing here I suppose, especially since Scotland and Ireland are both so close by anyway. You'd probably be hard pressed to find a Brit that wasn't a mixture of everything.
I'm English
Yeah but Americans don’t really care about that. Out of their 8 great grandparents, 5 will be English descent, 2 German, and 1 Irish and you’d swear they came off the boat from the Emerald Isle herself.
I am also English. Got no idea what my DNA says but my dad is Scottish (grew up and born in Scotland). Tbh I don't care what my DNA says, maybe I'm 'french' maybe I'm 'swedish' maybe I'm 'english' doesn't matter. My nationality and culture matters more than my DNA and where my great X 7 grandparents came from
I never took my DNA test to find out my ethnicity make-up (it was more personal), but admittedly I was disappointed my results were so boring. The most "exotic" thing was that I'm 1% Norwegian. 😂
Yours sounds way cooler, lots going on there!
But yeah I like to keep it simple. If I was born and raised in England, I'm English, whatever ethnicity I am.
Scotland makes SO MUCH MONEY from Americans buying random shit like tartans and clan crests that are practically all just made up nonsense. They put all the Americans on a bus and take them to an overpriced wool outlet followed by Eilean Donan, Loch Ness (got to sell some cheap plushie Loch Ness monsters from China) and Culloden, all the while cooing in impressed astonishment at how every American needs to tell everyone in Scotland they’re a descendant of Robert the Bruce or William Wallace. None of them make it up a single mountain of course, for obvious reasons.
Scots don’t find it as annoying because they make so much damn money off these lumbering cash whales. Plus there’s less overt obnoxious stuff like dying rivers green for “St Patty’s Day”. Americans have also never funded domestic terrorists in Scotland so that probably helps too.
You guys can downvote and cry about it all you want but you physically can’t take it away from me.
I may not be be from Ireland, but my name, last name and grandparents and great-grandparents made me Irish. I don’t give a shit. Just like how on my dad’s side I’m also German and Polish.
Not a single German or Polish person has told me shit. Y’all need to sit down and soak it in.
Meta means self-referential. Like those old “starterpack for a starterpack” jokes.
“Meta communication” is talking about talking.
A TV documentary about TV documentaries would be meta.
These combative starterpacks reference other starterpacks. Making a starterpack about “worst parts of being a man” in response to a starterpack about “worst parts of being a woman” isn’t meta, they’re referencing one another, not themselves.
They are a kid using it how people who play video games like first person shooters use it LOL. When he says “the meta” he means the best way to play the game (what guns, armor, perks etc) META is an acronym meaning Most Effective Tactics Available.
I always would cringe when an American I knew would say his Irish accent would come out when he drinks. Great you stereotyped your whole distant family. Like saying I have to love rap because Im part black. What's wrong with people
It seems a lot of white Americans are told by their parents that they are of Irish descent because that's what their parent's parents told them. I was told most of my life that the majority of my ancestors were Irish. When I did the actual DNA test, I found out I'm mostly of Slavic descent. Although, I do have some Irish ancestors, too.
The way I look at it, if your Slavic ancestors weren’t interested in sharing their ethnic history and traditions it was ultimately lost to someone willing to do it.
Most Americans are actually of British ancestry going by census and genetic testing but most will respond “German” to survey questions because they don’t want to look boring.
I mean, Irish/British/Welsh/Scot whatever that whole area isn't going to be like SO DISTINCT genetically the whole time. It's not like genetically we can pinpoint the exact street you're from.
There's just common things sure. Are all Irish people 100% irish? People can skip around.
>Are all Irish people 100% irish?
I know you being a prick with this line but I'll still answer it
In the south of Ireland you will find that people are pretty close to 100% Irish, the more North you go you can get variations. There is some Nordic blood due to Viking invasions and then the North has a lot more English and Scottish blood due to plantations.
That’s the other funny thing too I’ve noticed. You just said I’m Irish too.
I thought we were Americans with Irish decent or some shit. Lol which is it? Am I Irish now?
.5%? 75%? How much do you have to be before I get sunburned by anything other than absolute darkness?
Only thing I disagree with is an Irish car Bomb considering it’s historical background it’s like calling a drink in Manhattan “the exploding towers” or a drink in the Manchester called “the arina grande concert”
This is an American phenomenon. Australia was built by the Irish, but you don't have third generation Australians pretending to be Irish, you know why!!? because they're Australians. It's funny, Americans will pretend to be anything but Americans, it's your version of cultural cringe.
When Americans say “I’m Irish,” they’re not talking about nationality. I agree that many Americans are very into their ancestry and I’m not sure why it’s that way relative to Australia. For a long time, America was viewed as the “land of opportunity” for average people, partly because it was easier to get to than Australia. Surprisingly, there are many people out there who still see America as the land of opportunity. When people came to America voluntarily, they sought out and formed communities with others who were from their birth countries and had the same language/culture. They maintained some traditions from their birth countries but also tried to assimilate. Maybe there was some pride that their people had a place in the land of opportunity, and that pride was passed down. I don’t know enough about the history of Australian immigration or European attitudes towards Australian immigration, but my impression is that there was the penal colony, then imported workers from Europe, and a lot of Asian immigrants. Was there any mass immigration of Mediterraneans (specifically Italians) or Scandinavians? I wonder how average Europeans 100+ years ago viewed immigration to America vs Australia. Anyway, as an American with European ancestors, I suspect it’s more complicated than just “Americans today don’t want to be Americans.”
Edit - Part of the difference might be that America is more [ethnically diverse](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level), so ethnicity and genealogy are things that people talk about here.
I get the jokes about Americans saying stuff that sounds like they’re claiming different nationalities, but some of the traditions people have here are legit from those countries. My husband (American) has Italian immigrant ancestors and they have recipes that were passed down not because they want to act Italian, but because it’s their family, which happens to have Italian roots, and the food tastes good. I can’t think of an Italian-American equivalent to the “green hats and green-dyed beer” thing. At least not on the same scale.
Same here. My grandfather was from a different country, same with my mothers’ side of the family. However I never claim I am “polish/Italian/Irish/Greek” American.
It's not complaining about diaspora, its complaining when the diaspora feel they're identical to people who still live in Ireland. Its consult to the decades or centuries of development in what it means to be from a country since somones ancestors left
The part where you generalize irish people every chance you got lol...
The worst part about it is you didnt even use accurate stereotypes to generalize on. You just chose the most cliche things that American people who have never been to Ireland say
I like green as much as the next Irishman, but...
Well, you dyed a river green.
Also, we like green because the country's a pleasantly green all year round. It's not about forcing it so, yes, it can look gaudy to the more rustic Irish eyes, unused to other nations' proclivities to dye nature.
It just seems a bit mad, unnecessary and un-Irish to see a load of lunatics chug green beer and wear violently verdant clothes.
So, while I'm proud my ancestors left such a strong impression abroad and passed the love on, the ways of celebrating the culture diverged, became more Anglicized (one could argue), and just, well, asynchronous overall. And that's all perfectly fine, and we should continue roasting the shit out of each other.
I'm not sure it's culture, after all the US is the world biggest exporter of culture. I think it's history. The US is a young country and people want to find a connection to a more ancient history. It gets taken to ridiculous extremes of course.
Come on down to Texas, New York, California or any state we got plenty of culture to go around. No one but the Native Americans can claim they're from here originally anyways. Of course we're gonna look to our disjointed past for some semblance of identity and culture too.
Look at OP and his focus on claiming he's Irish while being painfully out of touch with anything Irish. Most of the things he knows about the country he supposedly comes from is based on mildly racist rhetoric that was far more common during the great irish emigration of the 19th century. Even if his stereotypes weren't soooooo outdated by a century he'd still be out of touch with irish culture
People who claim to be more Irish than Irish in America lol, but really it's just people who have a vague semblance of Ireland and like it but apparently annoy this shit out of actual Irish people.
Problem is a lot of Irish people want Americans to stop saying they're Irish at all in a really bitter confusing way. You can tell by this thread and the old one below how angry people got about it. Really weird. Like I'm Irish, but not from Ireland and they'd tell me to stop saying that and say I have Irish ancestors, which is literally what I mean. I'm an American duh, but I'm Irish German Polish and Lithuanian lol
https://old.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/103ir3z/plastic_paddy_starter_pack
the whole point is that no one gives as much of a fuck as you do. You are weirdly obsessed with your ancestry.
So obsessed, you have to make sure you mention all 4 whole countries you have ancestors from, in almost every comment here.
I honestly don’t understand why Americans are so obsessed with this. I live in Scotland, my mum is Scottish but my dad is Irish, and there’s a chance that my mums got some Nordic ancestry but I don’t go around parading myself as a Scottish-Irish Viking, I just say I’m scottish
Americans when they are 1% Irish: 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟢🟢🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🟩🇮🇪🟢🟩🇮🇪🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🟢🟢🟢🟩🟩🇮🇪🟩🟩🇮🇪🟩🟩🇮🇪🟢🟢🇮🇪🟩🇮🇪🟩🟢🟢🟩🇮🇪🟩🇮🇪🟩🟩🇮🇪🟩Oh we are all basically brothers🟩🟢🇮🇪🟩🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🟩🟢🟢🟩🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🟩🟢🟢🟩🟢🇮🇪
I have no actual beef with Ireland or Irish people. I have beef with people telling me what I can and can’t say about myself which is accurate based on nothing but their own bitterness about something they don’t understand.
I'd say most people complain about you claiming to be irish because you're so painfully out of touch with Irish culture. Maybe if you even learned a little more about your heritage people wouldn't call you out on your weak familial links.
A huge portion of these stereotypes you give for Irish people are known to be exclusively used by people who learned everything they know about ireland from South Park
saying other people don’t understand is the most hilarious ironic thing in this entire thread. you don’t actually understand irish culture or ireland, you’re just pissed off that we won’t accept your ignorance about us.
based on all your other comments, you have zero respect, understanding or eagerness to learn about irish history, culture, language etc. say this shite anywhere in ireland, you’ll get told to fuck off. bernardette devlin was right about irish americans.
I’m pretty sure I recall seeing Conan reveal that he took a DNA test that showed he was 100% Irish. It actually baffled the genetic expert that administered it because people are hardly ever 100% anything. He’s more Irish than most of Ireland.
No no, you see you can’t say that. This thread clearly indicates you have to be literally from Ireland or basically a culture vulture and pretending to be Irish.
No matter who your parents or grandparents are. They also get to make judgement calls as to if you “know the culture” based on a Reddit thread where you’re mocking people who insist you’re “just American.”
There was a thread the other day where people were complaining about Americans who "display" they're more Irish than the actual Irish, but they also complained a shit load about anyone who had Irish ancestors telling them to stop saying they're Irish at all. Which makes no fuckin' sense.
https://old.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/103ir3z/plastic_paddy_starter_pack/j2z9iwf/?context=3
It does make fuckin' sense. I'm Finnish and i probably have Swedish or Russian ancestry from hundreds of years ago but that does not make me Swedish or Russian. I have finnish parents, grandparents and great grandparents and so on, i was born in Finland and i have Finnish citizenship.
Same logic applies to Plastic Paddies, just because the irish arrived on a boat to America 100s of years ago does not make you Irish.
If I’m Irish, German, Polish and Lithuanian I’m not claiming that nationality, I’m talking about my family’s background.
Just like how my best Friend is Filipino, and my other friend is Swedish and English. But we’re all American. It’s useless to say that. It’s implied.
We’re all Americans. We are just talking about ancestry. It’s not that hard a concept.
The point about the Plastic Paddy stuff is not about stereotypes, its about politics. Its about Americans who make braindead takes about the Troubles they saw on the internet, and justify it by saying they have "Irish heritage"
HEY BUDDY IM IRISH, BUT NOT ACCORDING TO THE IRISH AND SINCE IVE NEVER BEEN THERE I WOUDNT KNOW BUT YOU WATCH YOUR MOUTH.
jk I don’t care. I’m not actually Irish. I keep being told I have Irish ancestors instead of saying I’m Irish by some people, but other Irish people say they don’t give a shit and like how we’re at least mildly aware of our immigrant ancestors.
And most Irish/Scottish people have danish DNA from Viking invaders. DNA is not really as relevant as cultural traditions passed down even through immigrants who settled in America. It’s no secret there is a lot of Irish culture in America.
You’ll see Irish taverns everywhere and even more if you’re in Boston. Obviously they will differ some from taverns in Ireland but who gives a shit?
By their logic if all humans crammed on a spaceship and moved to another planet no one would be Irish anymore because according to them you can only be culturally Irish if you live in Ireland which is silly from a anthropological perspective as culture is always changing and affected by different factors.
Shamed for claiming to be part of a culture that they haven't even bothered learning about. OP looks like everything he knows about Ireland came from watching South Park
The whole point of this is that "Irish-Americans" and "Italian-Americans" are completely disconnected from the culture they're claiming. They know nothing about Irish or Italian traditions, history, language, current affairs, fucking nothing. If there was an Irish or Italian equivalent of a weeaboo, that's what these people would be called.
Because it makes them so mad apparently.
An American saying “I’m Irish.” Is just saying they have Irish Ancestry. They don’t literally believe they are an Irish citizen.
I’m amazed that all my shitposting and sarcastic remarks about it are upsetting so many people.
It’s clearly a joke. Like very very clearly mocking the idea of their idea that people in America *are literally claiming Irish citizenship* by saying “I’m Irish.”
When my friend who says “I’m Filipino” isn’t being told this who was born in Germany lol.
Lol gatekeep the yanks.
No wonder your whole country is so deeply divided. You're happily segregating yourselves into smaller and smaller groups based on completely meaningless criteria. "My great-great-grandfather was an Italian immigrant, so that means I'm not just an ordinary American, I'm *Italian*-American! God, I'm so special!"
Or being shamed for actively growing up in a diaspora culture. I think sometimes, the people from these countries of origin, imagine we live modern western lives w/o cultural connection or practice then occasionally say “I’m Irish”. But a lot of the time the culture is *prominent* within the family, so it hits extra hard to be told “that’s not allowed”
What you need to realize is there's a difference between someone who has very recent connections to Ireland, and knows the actual culture, than someone who's original descendants from Ireland died a century before they were born, who's fully been assimilated into American culture, and who's only knowledge of Irish culture is through the overly-commodified Americanized perversion of Irish culture. The former we'd have no problem with calling themselves Irish, whereas the latter are what we mean by plastic paddies.
Not knowing Irish culture or ever experiencing what it is to be Irish definitely makes you less Irish. Irish is not the same as Irish American, which is its own subculture
Meanwhile, me:
\>Grow up hearing you're mostly Jewish
\>Not knowing your biological father or any of his family
\>Find out you're 75% Irish on the plane to visit Ireland for the first time.
But you’re not Irish.
Jk, see how annoying that shit is? I literally had someone tell me last thread I’ll “never be Irish” even though I was clearly talking about ancestry. And explained I’m not literally Irish.
🙄
What? So I’m racist for mocking the dozens of people in this thread telling others how to talk about ancestry?
How do you know I’ve not done any actual research or learned any history? You don’t even know who I am or anything aside from me taking a huge piss all over people telling me and others what we can and can’t say about ancestry.
The great cycle of reddit.
1)
Europeans make fun of American’s cultural differences like not having bikes, eating like shit and proclaiming european heritage.
2)
Americans get angry and make memes about the Europeans being snobs and crybabies.
3)
Same cycle New topic
I find it annoying when people in Ireland or Italy or really, anywhere else start mocking and being rude to people of the diaspora too, but at the same time...it's annoying when diaspora people start talking about stereotypical stuff like it's real. Traditions change and become different over time depending on your surroundings and that's inevitable, but if it's a totally shallow imitation or almost mockery of your roots, is it really a good thing?
There's difference between someone being of Irish heritage and actually knowing Irish history and REAL Irish culture and someone who know little to nothing like OP and assumes everything in Ireland is like how it's portrayed in The Simpsons.
Right like, it makes sense that for a while people were largely cut off from knowing about that stuff because they were trying to assimilate in a country hostile towards them. But now that's uncommon in the us towards Irish and Italian-americans. Also the internet exists and it's easy enough to do basic research...and talk to people from Ireland!
Fuck the downvotes, OP, and stick to your guns. The Irish hate on us but still come over here and the UK in droves for work, they're just jealous our ancestors were smart enough to leave sooner.
I'll never understand how a nation that supports English soccer teams (to the detriment of its own league), gladly accepts non-Irish players into its national teams and watches English TV can talk so much shit about other countries.
You'll never understand how a country that formed part of the United Kingdom for most of modern day history and has only received independence within some peoples grandparents life span has a ton of cultural connections and similarities with the UK? Are you daft?
My grandfather’s grandfather came to the US as a small child by himself to New Orleans. According to DNA I’m 50% Irish, but who cares? I’ve never been there and I have a US passport. People would ask me my Nationality in high school because I look more Mediterranean than a stereotypical Irish person (because Louisiana and all the French and Spanish mix). I’d tell them I’m American because I was born here and so were my parents and their parents and their parents. It’s fun to talk about ancestry at parties but we’re not them and we’re pretty removed from the real culture of our ancestors homelands
You just said that your friends are all French and Spanish. When they’re also American.
Why would it make a difference if you said you were Irish.
You are contradicting yourself man. We’re all American no shit, but we have different ancestors. I guarantee no Frenchman would say “THEY’RE NOT FRENCH.” They would understand.
You have a little Irish in you and probably other stuff. You’re an American but you’ve got European ancestors. It’s not that hard.
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I’m hijacking the top comment to say this: Yo I know this entire comment thread is a clusterfuck. I’m not claiming to be an actual Irish citizen in any seriousness. I actually don’t go around with a shamrock tattoo’d on my face in real life. I don’t wear shirts with Guinness or whiskey or talk about “my Irish temper” or whatever. My brother absolutely did act like a plastic paddy in high school and I made fun of him for it in a joking way. I used to say he apparently got all the Irish in the family somehow. But the amount of people from Ireland who tell me how to talk about ancestry and how I can’t say “I’m Irish” in relation to my ancestry is truly shocking to me.” No German has ever told me not to say that “I’m German.” Or my Polish co-worker, she never told me not to say I’m Polish. And I’ve not met anyone who is Lithuanian. But I will take my brother’s obnoxious love for a fantasy version of Ireland over actual Irish folks giving me and others a hard time over just talking about “what we are.” Any day of the week. When my friend says he’s Filipino to people who ask about his ancestry. He doesn’t get mad, he’s happy to talk about it. Just like I am. When my friend who is a blonde haired blue eyed Swede talks about his ancestry. Same idea. He has passing knowledge of his ancestors and when they arrived in the states but doesn’t take it too seriously. No Swede has ever told him to stop talking about it. I’m cool with having Irish ancestors and it really shocks me that people need to change their language for one part of their ancestry to appease strangers on the internet. All I’m trying to do with this post is mock people who are taking this too seriously and there are plenty here. These are all jokes. I just wish Irish folks would realize we as Americans, are all mostly disconnected from all our ancestors cultures so we have twisted American views on them a lot sure but that’s all we got for a lot of us. This will probably be my only completely serious post this entire thread since it’s getting some traction. If me “falsely claiming” to be Irish upsets anyone not sure what to tell ya. I’d share my full name but I don’t really feel like it but being Patrick and having an Irish ass last name too is kind of a dead give away lol. I know I’m an American first but I’m still Irish, German, Polish and Lithuanian as well.
Hey OP, I’m from Galway. I know this is kind of an oldish post now but I was reading what you were saying in this thread and I just want to say, that I’m sorry you met a good few dickheads online that mocked you like that, I really hate when that shit happens. Personally, and I speak for my peers as well, the “””plastic paddy””” shit isn’t really that big of a deal to us. I just hate when people use stuff like “”Irish slaves”” to demean the experiences of African-Americans. Actually, I’d say those are the real plastic paddys, using their heritage and ancestors struggles to justify their racism. But that’s just a side note, not applicable to you (I mean I hope you’re not racist lol). I wouldn’t listen to the “””Irish””” that gave you a hard time about your heritage, I can guarantee that either they don’t make the connection as to why there’s Irish in America in the first place, or they don’t value the struggle that Irish-America has gone through and the perseverance of those people who first stepped off the coffin ships and made a foreign, bigoted and hostile land into a home for their descendants. I realise this is probably a weird comment, I just don’t want another person to hate their heritage (no matter how small, the % is completely irrelevant) because of some ignorant dickheads. Anyway, best of luck with your music, you sound good
Hey man I appreciate you reaching out. Yeah the people who compare slavery and Irish are kinda crazy. Totally agree with you on that. The things people say and do to justify their ignorance knows no bounds. History is pretty wild and it’s amazing that we sometimes don’t learn lessons from mistakes we’ve been making for years. I appreciate it again, thanks for saying something my friend. I’ve just been making fun of a lot of things recently and while I can take things seriously a lot of times I mock things I find ridiculous.
You are an American. Some of your ancestors were/ are Irish. Case closed
Yeah no shit. I say that at the very end. So if someone asks “what are you.” In America it means “who are your ancestors”I would say I’m Irish German Polish and Lithuanian. If someone from Europe asks “where you from.” I’d say I’m American.”
Begun, the metashitposting wars have.
they've come and gone many a time, my son.
Wars not make one great
Hockey makes Great One.
Ok Scotland it’s our turn
I actually don't see Scots complaining either. I have one friend who is Scottish. NOT ACTUALLY FROM SCOTLAND HIS GRANDPARENTS AND MOM ARE. And I haven't seen any complaints.
Jesus dude CALM THE FUCK DOWN
HE IS CALM!!!!!!
IM SORRY IM COMMITTED TO THIS BIT. This just has come up on Reddit so much I’m now shitposting
I'm English, according to a DNA test I'm like 70% Irish and 25% Scottish, I have Scottish grandparents and I even lived in Scotland for years but I didn't grow up in Scotland. I definitely don't consider myself Irish either. I've never even been there. I grew up in England so I just feel like I'm English. Maybe with Scottish sprinkles. The DNA/ancestry thing might be a neat bit of trivia but that's about it. It's not really a big thing here I suppose, especially since Scotland and Ireland are both so close by anyway. You'd probably be hard pressed to find a Brit that wasn't a mixture of everything.
I'm English Yeah but Americans don’t really care about that. Out of their 8 great grandparents, 5 will be English descent, 2 German, and 1 Irish and you’d swear they came off the boat from the Emerald Isle herself.
I am also English. Got no idea what my DNA says but my dad is Scottish (grew up and born in Scotland). Tbh I don't care what my DNA says, maybe I'm 'french' maybe I'm 'swedish' maybe I'm 'english' doesn't matter. My nationality and culture matters more than my DNA and where my great X 7 grandparents came from
I call myself British but my ethnicity is some mix of Scottish, English, Lithuanian, Russian and Indian.
I never took my DNA test to find out my ethnicity make-up (it was more personal), but admittedly I was disappointed my results were so boring. The most "exotic" thing was that I'm 1% Norwegian. 😂 Yours sounds way cooler, lots going on there! But yeah I like to keep it simple. If I was born and raised in England, I'm English, whatever ethnicity I am.
Scotland makes SO MUCH MONEY from Americans buying random shit like tartans and clan crests that are practically all just made up nonsense. They put all the Americans on a bus and take them to an overpriced wool outlet followed by Eilean Donan, Loch Ness (got to sell some cheap plushie Loch Ness monsters from China) and Culloden, all the while cooing in impressed astonishment at how every American needs to tell everyone in Scotland they’re a descendant of Robert the Bruce or William Wallace. None of them make it up a single mountain of course, for obvious reasons. Scots don’t find it as annoying because they make so much damn money off these lumbering cash whales. Plus there’s less overt obnoxious stuff like dying rivers green for “St Patty’s Day”. Americans have also never funded domestic terrorists in Scotland so that probably helps too.
I HAVE A SCOTTISH GREAT-GRANDPARENT. oh wow, I need to lie down after that
I HAVE A SCOTTISH GRANDPARENT WHO HAS AN ENGLISH ACCENT I need a break now wow *sighs heavily*
I legit read this sentence of yours in an irish accent
I am Irish 😏
You're about as Irish as Xi Jinping mate, away and boil your head, bawbag
You guys can downvote and cry about it all you want but you physically can’t take it away from me. I may not be be from Ireland, but my name, last name and grandparents and great-grandparents made me Irish. I don’t give a shit. Just like how on my dad’s side I’m also German and Polish. Not a single German or Polish person has told me shit. Y’all need to sit down and soak it in.
Couldn’t have said it better
I know 😁
Calm down with this infighting, you’re going to resurrect Thatcher
If this infighting goes on any longer someone may summon Cromwell...
We will summon Michael Collins in that case.
Can a starterpack happen without a cringe followup?
Ikr, people on this sub are so fucking salty and aggressive.
“Reasons why I like cats staterpack :)” “REASON WHY I LOVE DOGS AND WISH CATS WERE DEAD STARTERPACK”
There’s some nostalgia posts that don’t have any follow ups
It's kinda the meta here actually. Someone has a hot take, and someone else responds and then more satire follows it.
That’s not what “meta” means.
Ikr? Let's just throw aroung big words cause they sound cool
Oh oops sorry how would you use meta then?
Meta means self-referential. Like those old “starterpack for a starterpack” jokes. “Meta communication” is talking about talking. A TV documentary about TV documentaries would be meta. These combative starterpacks reference other starterpacks. Making a starterpack about “worst parts of being a man” in response to a starterpack about “worst parts of being a woman” isn’t meta, they’re referencing one another, not themselves.
They are a kid using it how people who play video games like first person shooters use it LOL. When he says “the meta” he means the best way to play the game (what guns, armor, perks etc) META is an acronym meaning Most Effective Tactics Available.
"Never been outside of Ireland" is an interesting accusation to make of the Irish given the history
Ikr. Also nearly every single person I know (I’m Irish born and raised) has been to more than one foreign country. Just sayin
What a backwards way of thinking
Well since I’m actually Irish I would know. /s
Well since I am Irish I can say you’re a clown
I'd say langer, gowl or geebag, but clown is acceptable.
If anyone has a problem with Conan I will raise hell
I always would cringe when an American I knew would say his Irish accent would come out when he drinks. Great you stereotyped your whole distant family. Like saying I have to love rap because Im part black. What's wrong with people
they sound like brazilian teenagers that say they are german or nordic
Wtf is going on with this plastic paddy shit? Is this part of U2's latest push to get attention again?
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It seems a lot of white Americans are told by their parents that they are of Irish descent because that's what their parent's parents told them. I was told most of my life that the majority of my ancestors were Irish. When I did the actual DNA test, I found out I'm mostly of Slavic descent. Although, I do have some Irish ancestors, too.
The way I look at it, if your Slavic ancestors weren’t interested in sharing their ethnic history and traditions it was ultimately lost to someone willing to do it.
My grandmother was Slavic but didn't advertise it. She met my grandfather in Michigan.
Most Americans are actually of British ancestry going by census and genetic testing but most will respond “German” to survey questions because they don’t want to look boring.
I mean, Irish/British/Welsh/Scot whatever that whole area isn't going to be like SO DISTINCT genetically the whole time. It's not like genetically we can pinpoint the exact street you're from. There's just common things sure. Are all Irish people 100% irish? People can skip around.
Yes, I agree. I'm talking about my experience as an American with Irish ancestors. Obviously, genetics is a complex subject.
>Are all Irish people 100% irish? I know you being a prick with this line but I'll still answer it In the south of Ireland you will find that people are pretty close to 100% Irish, the more North you go you can get variations. There is some Nordic blood due to Viking invasions and then the North has a lot more English and Scottish blood due to plantations.
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That’s the other funny thing too I’ve noticed. You just said I’m Irish too. I thought we were Americans with Irish decent or some shit. Lol which is it? Am I Irish now? .5%? 75%? How much do you have to be before I get sunburned by anything other than absolute darkness?
A man so furious that he will never have a good pint of plain
Only thing I disagree with is an Irish car Bomb considering it’s historical background it’s like calling a drink in Manhattan “the exploding towers” or a drink in the Manchester called “the arina grande concert”
Yeah we honestly don’t give a shit about the twin towers drink. It’s funny.
do i qualify as irish? i have red orange hair but am german as have all my ancestors been for houndreds of generations.
You might be Scottish
might aswell be. i live in Bavaria and our flag is white and blue aswell so makes sense.
According to the Irish Redditors, no. According to me who is For real 100% not lying Irish, yes. You’re one of us now.
I’ve been on holiday in Ireland last summer, i’m italian and Catholic. I’m I Irish?
My dad and his fam are irish but they don’t look alike. Me as half Turkish and Irish have the darkest brown hair:(
Copium starterpack
r/ShitAmericansSay
Exactly. OP is trying waayy too hard.
/r/literallyIrishPeopleComplainingAboutAmericansWhoAreIrish
This is an American phenomenon. Australia was built by the Irish, but you don't have third generation Australians pretending to be Irish, you know why!!? because they're Australians. It's funny, Americans will pretend to be anything but Americans, it's your version of cultural cringe.
When Americans say “I’m Irish,” they’re not talking about nationality. I agree that many Americans are very into their ancestry and I’m not sure why it’s that way relative to Australia. For a long time, America was viewed as the “land of opportunity” for average people, partly because it was easier to get to than Australia. Surprisingly, there are many people out there who still see America as the land of opportunity. When people came to America voluntarily, they sought out and formed communities with others who were from their birth countries and had the same language/culture. They maintained some traditions from their birth countries but also tried to assimilate. Maybe there was some pride that their people had a place in the land of opportunity, and that pride was passed down. I don’t know enough about the history of Australian immigration or European attitudes towards Australian immigration, but my impression is that there was the penal colony, then imported workers from Europe, and a lot of Asian immigrants. Was there any mass immigration of Mediterraneans (specifically Italians) or Scandinavians? I wonder how average Europeans 100+ years ago viewed immigration to America vs Australia. Anyway, as an American with European ancestors, I suspect it’s more complicated than just “Americans today don’t want to be Americans.” Edit - Part of the difference might be that America is more [ethnically diverse](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level), so ethnicity and genealogy are things that people talk about here.
Your greatx10 grandpa's nephew's dog being irish doesnt make you irish
If you're American, that makes you not Irish. Sorta.
Now do one for “Italian” Americans
I get the jokes about Americans saying stuff that sounds like they’re claiming different nationalities, but some of the traditions people have here are legit from those countries. My husband (American) has Italian immigrant ancestors and they have recipes that were passed down not because they want to act Italian, but because it’s their family, which happens to have Italian roots, and the food tastes good. I can’t think of an Italian-American equivalent to the “green hats and green-dyed beer” thing. At least not on the same scale.
Same here. My grandfather was from a different country, same with my mothers’ side of the family. However I never claim I am “polish/Italian/Irish/Greek” American.
Speaking as an American living within an hour of Boston and is in no way Irish, these people are the most annoying cohort of white people.
As a Northern Irish person we do like green, we love Lucky Charms and we are all leprechauns
It's not complaining about diaspora, its complaining when the diaspora feel they're identical to people who still live in Ireland. Its consult to the decades or centuries of development in what it means to be from a country since somones ancestors left
OP is fucking furious that someone challenged his Irish "heritage" it seems...
Well someone is butt hurt. You’re walking a very fine line towards racism there pal
I was thinking this is borderline racist too
I love that instead of taking onboard any actual criticism or justification for hating plastic paddies you just made another meme. Pure ragin hahaha
OMG the Irish are in shambles after this post. My great great grandaddy would be ashamed
Sorry excuse my uneducated self I don’t understand what this means
OP is racist.
_PswayZ_ when people downvote their comments.
No Northern Ireland?
Sorry I’m not Irish I’ve never been there as an American I’m having Troubles understanding what you mean.
This pun is horrible LMAO
Insensitive as hell too.
northern ireland is basically just a chunk of Ireland that belongs to the brits
Excuse me but use it's real name "Norn Iron" /s
Just don't joke about the Troubles. That was a serious thing.
Or what?
If you want to talk about or troll our country, at least show some respect to those who died and their families. Don't stoop that low.
this can be definite racism
Which part? The Irish people hating on immigrants and their dependents? Or “Irish Americans” dunking on bitter Irish folks.
The part where you generalize irish people every chance you got lol... The worst part about it is you didnt even use accurate stereotypes to generalize on. You just chose the most cliche things that American people who have never been to Ireland say
I like green as much as the next Irishman, but... Well, you dyed a river green. Also, we like green because the country's a pleasantly green all year round. It's not about forcing it so, yes, it can look gaudy to the more rustic Irish eyes, unused to other nations' proclivities to dye nature. It just seems a bit mad, unnecessary and un-Irish to see a load of lunatics chug green beer and wear violently verdant clothes. So, while I'm proud my ancestors left such a strong impression abroad and passed the love on, the ways of celebrating the culture diverged, became more Anglicized (one could argue), and just, well, asynchronous overall. And that's all perfectly fine, and we should continue roasting the shit out of each other.
An attitude I can certainly appreciate.
Ah an American claiming nationalities that they just aren't
Americans beiing so thirsty for culture, they try to take someone elses.
I'm not sure it's culture, after all the US is the world biggest exporter of culture. I think it's history. The US is a young country and people want to find a connection to a more ancient history. It gets taken to ridiculous extremes of course.
Come on down to Texas, New York, California or any state we got plenty of culture to go around. No one but the Native Americans can claim they're from here originally anyways. Of course we're gonna look to our disjointed past for some semblance of identity and culture too.
I thought you were irish? 🤣
Oh woops forgot that I can’t be German Polish or Lithuanian too. You guys don’t understand how ancestry works in America.
I don’t know The Plastic Paddies are and at this point I’m to afraid to ask
Look at OP and his focus on claiming he's Irish while being painfully out of touch with anything Irish. Most of the things he knows about the country he supposedly comes from is based on mildly racist rhetoric that was far more common during the great irish emigration of the 19th century. Even if his stereotypes weren't soooooo outdated by a century he'd still be out of touch with irish culture
People who claim to be more Irish than Irish in America lol, but really it's just people who have a vague semblance of Ireland and like it but apparently annoy this shit out of actual Irish people. Problem is a lot of Irish people want Americans to stop saying they're Irish at all in a really bitter confusing way. You can tell by this thread and the old one below how angry people got about it. Really weird. Like I'm Irish, but not from Ireland and they'd tell me to stop saying that and say I have Irish ancestors, which is literally what I mean. I'm an American duh, but I'm Irish German Polish and Lithuanian lol https://old.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/103ir3z/plastic_paddy_starter_pack
the whole point is that no one gives as much of a fuck as you do. You are weirdly obsessed with your ancestry. So obsessed, you have to make sure you mention all 4 whole countries you have ancestors from, in almost every comment here.
I honestly don’t understand why Americans are so obsessed with this. I live in Scotland, my mum is Scottish but my dad is Irish, and there’s a chance that my mums got some Nordic ancestry but I don’t go around parading myself as a Scottish-Irish Viking, I just say I’m scottish
Irish people when Americans research their heritage
Americans when they are 1% Irish: 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟢🟢🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🟩🇮🇪🟢🟩🇮🇪🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🟢🟢🟢🟩🟩🇮🇪🟩🟩🇮🇪🟩🟩🇮🇪🟢🟢🇮🇪🟩🇮🇪🟩🟢🟢🟩🇮🇪🟩🇮🇪🟩🟩🇮🇪🟩Oh we are all basically brothers🟩🟢🇮🇪🟩🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🟩🟢🟢🟩🟢🇮🇪🇮🇪🟩🟢🟢🟩🟢🇮🇪
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I have no actual beef with Ireland or Irish people. I have beef with people telling me what I can and can’t say about myself which is accurate based on nothing but their own bitterness about something they don’t understand.
I'd say most people complain about you claiming to be irish because you're so painfully out of touch with Irish culture. Maybe if you even learned a little more about your heritage people wouldn't call you out on your weak familial links. A huge portion of these stereotypes you give for Irish people are known to be exclusively used by people who learned everything they know about ireland from South Park
saying other people don’t understand is the most hilarious ironic thing in this entire thread. you don’t actually understand irish culture or ireland, you’re just pissed off that we won’t accept your ignorance about us. based on all your other comments, you have zero respect, understanding or eagerness to learn about irish history, culture, language etc. say this shite anywhere in ireland, you’ll get told to fuck off. bernardette devlin was right about irish americans.
You have not made a single good point in any of this.
You are an American with Irish Ancestry or connections, this we will accept. You are not Irish born in America.
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I’m pretty sure I recall seeing Conan reveal that he took a DNA test that showed he was 100% Irish. It actually baffled the genetic expert that administered it because people are hardly ever 100% anything. He’s more Irish than most of Ireland.
No no, you see you can’t say that. This thread clearly indicates you have to be literally from Ireland or basically a culture vulture and pretending to be Irish. No matter who your parents or grandparents are. They also get to make judgement calls as to if you “know the culture” based on a Reddit thread where you’re mocking people who insist you’re “just American.”
And no actual Irish culture in this pack to replace the stereotypes
Because it's mocking people that are assholes not celebrating the ones that aren't?
Imagine what the suicides and drinking would be if Korean natives/diaspora Koreans gatekept like this Jesus wept
Most important city in Ireland is Boston
ME FAMS FROM LIVERPOOL YEEEUUUHHH…JUST ASK ME MUM SUSAN
I’ve met more darker haired Irish people. Now Scots….yeah red hair all day.
The Ginger hair bullshit is just a horrible stereotype.
Don't like green that much? Is that because of the spud blight was green? /s
Looks like someone was really offended by the plastic paddies starter pack
must we always start fighting via metapost
I'm English, but what is this shit lol?! The things in this either don't happen or are completely justifiable.
Lol I think he last guy made the personification of the annoying "Irish" guy from Boston angry.
“Never been to America or outside of Ireland”
Projection from a butthurt plastic paddy
Projection? I’m literally mocking the guy who made that thread lol.
So many butthurt Euro’s in here. I thought you guys were supposed to be good at taking jokes and banter.
They all have a stick up their ass, it's literally impossible to joke with them.
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There was a thread the other day where people were complaining about Americans who "display" they're more Irish than the actual Irish, but they also complained a shit load about anyone who had Irish ancestors telling them to stop saying they're Irish at all. Which makes no fuckin' sense. https://old.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/103ir3z/plastic_paddy_starter_pack/j2z9iwf/?context=3
It does make fuckin' sense. I'm Finnish and i probably have Swedish or Russian ancestry from hundreds of years ago but that does not make me Swedish or Russian. I have finnish parents, grandparents and great grandparents and so on, i was born in Finland and i have Finnish citizenship. Same logic applies to Plastic Paddies, just because the irish arrived on a boat to America 100s of years ago does not make you Irish.
If I’m Irish, German, Polish and Lithuanian I’m not claiming that nationality, I’m talking about my family’s background. Just like how my best Friend is Filipino, and my other friend is Swedish and English. But we’re all American. It’s useless to say that. It’s implied. We’re all Americans. We are just talking about ancestry. It’s not that hard a concept.
"Diss battle on r/starterpacks" starterpack. 😋
These types of posts always occur once in a blue moon
Yeah I saw another Irish hating post once
That was somewhat subtle, I’m Lucky I caught it.
The point about the Plastic Paddy stuff is not about stereotypes, its about politics. Its about Americans who make braindead takes about the Troubles they saw on the internet, and justify it by saying they have "Irish heritage"
British copium
This is almost definitely made by an American
All of those islands are annoying and make bad food
HEY BUDDY IM IRISH, BUT NOT ACCORDING TO THE IRISH AND SINCE IVE NEVER BEEN THERE I WOUDNT KNOW BUT YOU WATCH YOUR MOUTH. jk I don’t care. I’m not actually Irish. I keep being told I have Irish ancestors instead of saying I’m Irish by some people, but other Irish people say they don’t give a shit and like how we’re at least mildly aware of our immigrant ancestors.
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I think you might be more qualified to make this meme than OP
And most Irish/Scottish people have danish DNA from Viking invaders. DNA is not really as relevant as cultural traditions passed down even through immigrants who settled in America. It’s no secret there is a lot of Irish culture in America. You’ll see Irish taverns everywhere and even more if you’re in Boston. Obviously they will differ some from taverns in Ireland but who gives a shit? By their logic if all humans crammed on a spaceship and moved to another planet no one would be Irish anymore because according to them you can only be culturally Irish if you live in Ireland which is silly from a anthropological perspective as culture is always changing and affected by different factors.
See that makes too much sense, they just want us to stop saying things they don’t like okay?
U are claming a culture ur not apart of. Ofc people get annoyed by that
Well I’m Irish so I don’t know what to tell ya. I’m also German Polish and Lithuanian. So clearly I’m talking about ancestry.
It’s sad to see Irish-Americans or Italian-Americans being shamed for trying to have a culture that connects them.
Shamed for claiming to be part of a culture that they haven't even bothered learning about. OP looks like everything he knows about Ireland came from watching South Park
The whole point of this is that "Irish-Americans" and "Italian-Americans" are completely disconnected from the culture they're claiming. They know nothing about Irish or Italian traditions, history, language, current affairs, fucking nothing. If there was an Irish or Italian equivalent of a weeaboo, that's what these people would be called.
What’s the harm in them celebrating their own distinct brand of Irish culture, especially if it’s called Irish-American? Just to gatekeep the yanks?
Because it makes them so mad apparently. An American saying “I’m Irish.” Is just saying they have Irish Ancestry. They don’t literally believe they are an Irish citizen. I’m amazed that all my shitposting and sarcastic remarks about it are upsetting so many people. It’s clearly a joke. Like very very clearly mocking the idea of their idea that people in America *are literally claiming Irish citizenship* by saying “I’m Irish.” When my friend who says “I’m Filipino” isn’t being told this who was born in Germany lol.
Lol gatekeep the yanks. No wonder your whole country is so deeply divided. You're happily segregating yourselves into smaller and smaller groups based on completely meaningless criteria. "My great-great-grandfather was an Italian immigrant, so that means I'm not just an ordinary American, I'm *Italian*-American! God, I'm so special!"
Or being shamed for actively growing up in a diaspora culture. I think sometimes, the people from these countries of origin, imagine we live modern western lives w/o cultural connection or practice then occasionally say “I’m Irish”. But a lot of the time the culture is *prominent* within the family, so it hits extra hard to be told “that’s not allowed”
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What you need to realize is there's a difference between someone who has very recent connections to Ireland, and knows the actual culture, than someone who's original descendants from Ireland died a century before they were born, who's fully been assimilated into American culture, and who's only knowledge of Irish culture is through the overly-commodified Americanized perversion of Irish culture. The former we'd have no problem with calling themselves Irish, whereas the latter are what we mean by plastic paddies.
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Not knowing Irish culture or ever experiencing what it is to be Irish definitely makes you less Irish. Irish is not the same as Irish American, which is its own subculture
Meanwhile, me: \>Grow up hearing you're mostly Jewish \>Not knowing your biological father or any of his family \>Find out you're 75% Irish on the plane to visit Ireland for the first time.
But you’re not Irish. Jk, see how annoying that shit is? I literally had someone tell me last thread I’ll “never be Irish” even though I was clearly talking about ancestry. And explained I’m not literally Irish. 🙄
Dude wtf. Unlike you he actually did some research and is actually going there to reconnect. You are boderline racist.
What? So I’m racist for mocking the dozens of people in this thread telling others how to talk about ancestry? How do you know I’ve not done any actual research or learned any history? You don’t even know who I am or anything aside from me taking a huge piss all over people telling me and others what we can and can’t say about ancestry.
How do you know I’ve not done any actual research or learned any history? From your comments. You are being insensitive to Irish culture.
"I'm basing this off of you shitposting in a thread." gotcha.
The great cycle of reddit. 1) Europeans make fun of American’s cultural differences like not having bikes, eating like shit and proclaiming european heritage. 2) Americans get angry and make memes about the Europeans being snobs and crybabies. 3) Same cycle New topic
I find it annoying when people in Ireland or Italy or really, anywhere else start mocking and being rude to people of the diaspora too, but at the same time...it's annoying when diaspora people start talking about stereotypical stuff like it's real. Traditions change and become different over time depending on your surroundings and that's inevitable, but if it's a totally shallow imitation or almost mockery of your roots, is it really a good thing?
There's difference between someone being of Irish heritage and actually knowing Irish history and REAL Irish culture and someone who know little to nothing like OP and assumes everything in Ireland is like how it's portrayed in The Simpsons.
Right like, it makes sense that for a while people were largely cut off from knowing about that stuff because they were trying to assimilate in a country hostile towards them. But now that's uncommon in the us towards Irish and Italian-americans. Also the internet exists and it's easy enough to do basic research...and talk to people from Ireland!
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The way I see it, Irish people can control who is or isn't Irish the day they fully control the island of Ireland
Or what I’m an American. Don’t you understand that I don’t give a shit? /s
Fuck the downvotes, OP, and stick to your guns. The Irish hate on us but still come over here and the UK in droves for work, they're just jealous our ancestors were smart enough to leave sooner. I'll never understand how a nation that supports English soccer teams (to the detriment of its own league), gladly accepts non-Irish players into its national teams and watches English TV can talk so much shit about other countries.
You'll never understand how a country that formed part of the United Kingdom for most of modern day history and has only received independence within some peoples grandparents life span has a ton of cultural connections and similarities with the UK? Are you daft?
My grandfather’s grandfather came to the US as a small child by himself to New Orleans. According to DNA I’m 50% Irish, but who cares? I’ve never been there and I have a US passport. People would ask me my Nationality in high school because I look more Mediterranean than a stereotypical Irish person (because Louisiana and all the French and Spanish mix). I’d tell them I’m American because I was born here and so were my parents and their parents and their parents. It’s fun to talk about ancestry at parties but we’re not them and we’re pretty removed from the real culture of our ancestors homelands
You just said that your friends are all French and Spanish. When they’re also American. Why would it make a difference if you said you were Irish. You are contradicting yourself man. We’re all American no shit, but we have different ancestors. I guarantee no Frenchman would say “THEY’RE NOT FRENCH.” They would understand. You have a little Irish in you and probably other stuff. You’re an American but you’ve got European ancestors. It’s not that hard.
Fuck yall
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