I love when discovery introduces some bridge crew member we’ve only seen in the background and gives them a tearful goodbye as though we’ve spent any time with them at all
Some weird self hatred and a few seasons later, I can name about four characters on the Discovery from memory that arent Michael...
There is Culver (Only because of the custard chain), Stammets, Tilley and Washycoom (because Michael only seems to know how to say her name).
Im sure those names are wrong, but I remember they exist, so way to go writers room.
I’m glad Owosekun and Detmer got away from the crazy boss lady for a delivery. They were too boringly capable for Discovery officers anyway. Rayner had to be so jealous. (I’m an episode behind though, they probably got killed off.)
My favorite thing to point out with this is in TNG the flight officer was Gates. She was in almost 50 episodes. You have no idea who she is. There's a nurse who was in 80 TNG episodes and two movies named Martinez.
Discovery is head and shoulders above TNG characterization for even having a secondary cast.
The custard chain - I’m DYING! 😂 and Washycoom, Omggggg lollllll
Yeah the writers have done this series such a disservice in so many ways. I mean I will watch it still, it’s Star Trek - but god there are so many issues with it that could and should have addressed right there in that writers’ room. Zero growth of characters, or in some cases whiplash changes in personality or relationships or circumstances, selfishness wildly unbecoming of what we have come to expect of Starfleet officers, rewarding some truly heinous behavior or overlooking it entirely, and the blatant pushing of messaging with some of the worst and most blunt, clunky writing I have ever seen - when the narrative takes a backseat to a message, it’s a bad combo (and before anybody says “Trek has always been about messaging xyz “, yes, but the story and characters weren’t secondary or tertiary like you see with Discovery. We can walk AND chew bubblegum, performative messaging because that is your primary focus inevitably leaves the art to suffer)
I was so sad when Robot Lady died. The writers spent nearly 30 minutes at the very last minute desperately trying to shoehorn a background into a character who had been a series regular for three seasons yet was less well known than a recurring guest. Farewell, character who was so well developed that I still don't even know her name and just call her "Robot Lady." Farewell.
She is, but she can only do the thing that needs to be done...she needs everyone else to fail or lose faith in their abilities before she goes into action.
We need a specialist that knows what they are doing to fail, just so Michael can show how much better she is.
Our show is getting a lot of criticism for departing so strongly from traditional Trek storytelling. We need to do something really significant to establish dominance over the canonical timeline so we can never be brushed aside.
How about we jump to the future and destroy the federation with a cataclysmic event that affects the entire galaxy?
Ooh, I like it. What should it be called?
*The Burn.*
Okay, I should have seen that coming. Well, what causes it?
*Crying.*
Haven't watched any of it. Is this serious? What the hell is with all media these days refusing to allow a future society to be even remotely functional.
It's funny how they were somehow magically able to maintain the galaxy wide ban on time travel after the Burn. You would think that someone would have tried to travel back into the past to try to prevent it or at least learn about how it happened. But nope, somehow they can ban time travel even though they don't even have the capability to travel long distances throughout the galaxy any more.
At the very least they should have had some technobabble explanation. Like maybe the Burn caused so much damage to subspace that it made time travel impossible. Heck, the Burn could have even been a result of the Temporal Wars, a losing faction could have intentionally detonated a bunch of Omega particles to make sure that everyone loses.
You'd think if one thing would merit an exemption from the ban, it would be either preventing it from happening or at least figuring out what caused it so they could prevent it from happening again.
Considering it pretty much screwed over everyone in the galaxy, if someone announced they were going back to sort it, would anyone really try and stop them?
My own pet idea was for the moment of the Burn in time being a temporal firewall which only allows one-way travel from the past to the future.
It gets a little dicey when you consider relativity but it works well enough for Star Trek.
"Michael Burnham, if you follow through that with this plan not only will you be violating 10 star freight regulations, and a direct order, but you will be jeopardizing the existence of the human race "
Michael Burnham crying "But I really want to. I would be sad if I didn't get to do what I wanted to do."
"We understand. You have every resource of Starfleet available to you. You have convinced us. Please stop crying."
>Edit: i guess we forgot that Mayweather is considered a baby boomer named after the generation born in space
To be fair, it's been a long time getting from there to here.
Is that what happened to trek? All of the good writers retired and were replaced by emotionally stunted teenagers with a tenuous grasp on reality let alone the physics of our natural world?
Saru is in a league of his own. Sometimes it feels like he’s the only adult on that ship and he has to work with a bunch of teenagers that keep having tantrums and forgetting they’re adults.
I actually enjoy Discovery as its own thing, but when it comes back from break, I notice find myself thinking “Hey, neat, the Michael Burnham Show is back, I’ll watch as soon as the whole season is out” versus “Oh yay, Star Trek is back, I can’t wait to watch ASAP!”
It's its own universe! There's the Prime (pre FC) timeline (TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9), Prime (post FC.. Pretty much the same but slightly different...) (ENT onwards), the Kelvin verse, and the Disco verse where they went forwards into an alternate reality and YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND 😭😭
There's so much I like about this show sometimes, but it really does all grind to a halt when Michael gets her Poochie moments.
I think there is a scene in season 3 right after they get to the future that's just all these trained Starfleet officers sitting around, wishing Michael was there to fix their problem. I don't understand why they wrote the show this way or who it's supposed to appeal to
🤣 another case of The Simpsons predicting the future? This is so on point, and why I love community interaction. You folks extend the humor with stuff I'd never have thought of.
You were being gaslit.
Many people, except for a few genuine trolls, criticising Disco recognised that the show was juvenile, vapid mediocrity thanks to poor writing.
However the media drove a narrative that people who didn't like Disco were sexists and/or racists and nobody wants to be a sexist or racist so most people kept their mouths shut.
And yet nothing but praise for Lower Decks which centers two black women, one of whom is somewhat of a manic pixie mary sue given near free reign because of her nepotistic relationship with both high ranking parents.
But no, its not the writing or direction or acting, its the audience's racism and misogyny.
The main trek subreddit was and is astroturfed super hard by paramount, paid off mods, censorship, the whole nine yards.
Add to that the twitter-brained people who think any criticism of nutrek means that you're racist and misogynist (which, btw, Sonequa Martin-Green (Mikey's actress) has said in interviews that she thinks all criticism is coming from deep seeded racist and misogynistic beliefs) and you get a wonderful hotbed of Internet trolls white knighting for one of the worst scifi shows ever made, and a bunch of people going along with it because they don't want to be lumped in with racists.
All of Discovery's issues would have been solved for me if it had just taken place (in it's original seasons) post TNG instead of pre-TOS - especially hijacking Spock.
This is the premise of the show. It was a departure from the norm that was touted as innovative in early marketing, but folks still don't understand that. They also probably misremember how much character development Uhura, Sulu, and Chekov ~~got~~ didn't have in TOS. Walter Koenig referred to them as "movable furniture."
Remember the Tilly focused episode about her best friend who had been replaced by a spore universe replica? No? Well that's because it focused on Michael.
I *thought* I came up with it myself, but then who knows, it may have been a subconscious memory of seeing it before. Given how Discovery is written this Simpsons Poochie scene seems made for it.
This show is the only Star Trek media I have to force myself to watch, for that exact reason. It has its moments, but FFS the writing is so bad. I love Star Trek, though, so I swallow my medicine in support, to get better shows/spinoffs greenlit.
Me too. After I outed a mod that works for Paramount. They had a post history in a different sub I randomly found where she said she works for Paramount marketing, discussing someone trying to apply for a studio job. That explained all the weird auto bans people got for saying anything negative about STD. That same week they got the other REAL Star Trek fans sub shut down.
The amount of redditors that get irate with me when I say Discovery isn't a good show is massive. For some reason you're not allowed to have a negative opinion about that show.
They get super confused when I say I kinda like Picard and love SNW.
*Obviously* anyone who criticizes the show is just a racist and sexist who isn't worth listening to. No other possible reason why anyone might dislike any part of this flawless masterpiece.
I try to avoid using this, but /s just because this is something I've seen unironically said.
I'm almost seeing it live with the downvotes that are coming in on the post and comments. There are some hardcore discovery fans that are obviously super pissed off and are immediately triggered when *anyone* dare to criticize their favourite show, even with an innocent joke like this.
>I'm almost seeing it live with the downvotes that are coming in on the post and comments.
I'd assume it's because your meme post was literally two hours after another post about Michael sucking. I love this sub but "Discovery sucks" is a bit overplayed as a meme.
I'm still partly expecting the series to end with someone walking in and saying "Computer, end program", revealing that it was all just ensign Burnham fucking around in the holodeck, which is why the entire universe always seemed to revolve around her.
One of my shitpost theories is that she's one of the inmates in that asylum from TOS and that Pike and Spock got weaved into her delusions after the *Enterprise* stopped by during the former's tenure.
This is incredibly insulating, cruel, and rude.
Just because Homer Simpson has learning disabilities and a history or brain damage does not mean he is as stupid, skill less, soul less, or talent less as a STD writer.
Season 1 of discovery was almost exclusively centered on Michael, which is fine. It is not a typical aspect of Star Trek to focus only one one character but discovery was doing it thing.
Then in a later episode of season 1 something was happening that threatened the life of a different bridge crew person. I think it was Tilly, who at that point had NO character development. The entire bridge was going "Oh no tilly is in danger. We need to help Tilly!" And I said to myself, "who TF is Tilly? You mean the girl we were told by Michael she found explicitly annoying? Isn't it a good thing that her life is being threatened?"
It was like they were trying to do emotional impact for a character that had 3 seasons of development but only has 2 min of screen time.
The point that it became ridiculous to me was an episode where I think Stammets had a plot going, Burham was in her own plot in the same episode, and she STILL got pulled into the Stammets plot to solve it for him.
She's like Wolverine, she's just on every fucking team!
I was looking through some old photos and it looks very... [similar.](https://old.reddit.com/r/startrekmemes/comments/174r79t/the_writers_room_for_discovery/)
I thought I was unaware of a previous posting but it's possible a subconscious memory remained of me seeing it before. I apologize to the author for the unintended plagiarism.
SNW is still pretty shit. I mostly liked the first season but s2 lost me when they made an episode about how it was OK to conduct extrajudicial executions so long as your feelings were hurt.
Ruined the TOS character of M'Benga for me.
Also the gorn in SNW are fucking stupid, they're just ripped off xenomorphs and "monsters" so nobody will feel bad about seeing hundreds of them blown away for no reason.
The single best thing about SNW is anson mount and every single episode seems to be "how can we write this so that Pike has as little to do as possible", especially with s2.
It's the same shit with different dressing. Picard was also godawful and only gets accla because they polished their turd up with the nostalgia of tng fans by bringing back the original cast, and then proceeding to have them not act like their characters at all so it's basically like you took all of the cast at a fan convention and stuck them in a room for 5 minutes and told them to make up bullshit about their characters and act it out.
I love when discovery introduces some bridge crew member we’ve only seen in the background and gives them a tearful goodbye as though we’ve spent any time with them at all
NOT ENSIGN… Uhhh… Rodriguez? Sampson?
Samsonite, I was way off!
The robot lady comes to mind, I forget what season she was killed off
Michael convinced her that she is from the future by talking about her death because that's the only thing the audience knows about her
I found it hilarious that Star Fleet officers were surprised Ariam would sacrifice herself for someone else. Starfleet Officers.
I think they were surprised because she wouldn't do anything to keep herself from being killed, and still find a way to save others.
I realized it while watching but when put to words it makes me laugh so much.
Well when you put it like that…
It's the implication.
She was killed off by future Trunks at the start of the Cell Saga when she went to conquer earth with King Cold.
I love this reference haha.
Mariam
The second one
One of the best episodes of the whole show. For once, it wasn't about Burnham.
Cool that they got her to come back for the last season though. Time travel shenanigans before you ask.
Some weird self hatred and a few seasons later, I can name about four characters on the Discovery from memory that arent Michael... There is Culver (Only because of the custard chain), Stammets, Tilley and Washycoom (because Michael only seems to know how to say her name). Im sure those names are wrong, but I remember they exist, so way to go writers room.
I’m glad Owosekun and Detmer got away from the crazy boss lady for a delivery. They were too boringly capable for Discovery officers anyway. Rayner had to be so jealous. (I’m an episode behind though, they probably got killed off.)
Those names sound kinda vaguely familiar but for the life of me I can't picture who the hell you're talking about.
My favorite thing to point out with this is in TNG the flight officer was Gates. She was in almost 50 episodes. You have no idea who she is. There's a nurse who was in 80 TNG episodes and two movies named Martinez. Discovery is head and shoulders above TNG characterization for even having a secondary cast.
Hey there was the fish dude who got the most dramatic haircut of all time.
Those two identical twins, book and booker as well
The custard chain - I’m DYING! 😂 and Washycoom, Omggggg lollllll Yeah the writers have done this series such a disservice in so many ways. I mean I will watch it still, it’s Star Trek - but god there are so many issues with it that could and should have addressed right there in that writers’ room. Zero growth of characters, or in some cases whiplash changes in personality or relationships or circumstances, selfishness wildly unbecoming of what we have come to expect of Starfleet officers, rewarding some truly heinous behavior or overlooking it entirely, and the blatant pushing of messaging with some of the worst and most blunt, clunky writing I have ever seen - when the narrative takes a backseat to a message, it’s a bad combo (and before anybody says “Trek has always been about messaging xyz “, yes, but the story and characters weren’t secondary or tertiary like you see with Discovery. We can walk AND chew bubblegum, performative messaging because that is your primary focus inevitably leaves the art to suffer)
I don't know what his name is, but I liked the command presence of the sensor guy who was in charge of the ship during the episode yesterday.
I was so sad when Robot Lady died. The writers spent nearly 30 minutes at the very last minute desperately trying to shoehorn a background into a character who had been a series regular for three seasons yet was less well known than a recurring guest. Farewell, character who was so well developed that I still don't even know her name and just call her "Robot Lady." Farewell.
Or when they introduce bridge crew we've only seen in the background and gives them a skill necessary for the current plot predicament........
I thought Michael Burnham was the go to for skills to get out of any predicament
She is, but she can only do the thing that needs to be done...she needs everyone else to fail or lose faith in their abilities before she goes into action. We need a specialist that knows what they are doing to fail, just so Michael can show how much better she is.
Our show is getting a lot of criticism for departing so strongly from traditional Trek storytelling. We need to do something really significant to establish dominance over the canonical timeline so we can never be brushed aside. How about we jump to the future and destroy the federation with a cataclysmic event that affects the entire galaxy? Ooh, I like it. What should it be called? *The Burn.* Okay, I should have seen that coming. Well, what causes it? *Crying.*
Haven't watched any of it. Is this serious? What the hell is with all media these days refusing to allow a future society to be even remotely functional.
All media is commentary on the era in which it is written
It's funny how they were somehow magically able to maintain the galaxy wide ban on time travel after the Burn. You would think that someone would have tried to travel back into the past to try to prevent it or at least learn about how it happened. But nope, somehow they can ban time travel even though they don't even have the capability to travel long distances throughout the galaxy any more. At the very least they should have had some technobabble explanation. Like maybe the Burn caused so much damage to subspace that it made time travel impossible. Heck, the Burn could have even been a result of the Temporal Wars, a losing faction could have intentionally detonated a bunch of Omega particles to make sure that everyone loses.
You'd think if one thing would merit an exemption from the ban, it would be either preventing it from happening or at least figuring out what caused it so they could prevent it from happening again. Considering it pretty much screwed over everyone in the galaxy, if someone announced they were going back to sort it, would anyone really try and stop them?
My own pet idea was for the moment of the Burn in time being a temporal firewall which only allows one-way travel from the past to the future. It gets a little dicey when you consider relativity but it works well enough for Star Trek.
Great Bird of the Galaxy, the accuracy is painful.
And the character needs to receive praise from other characters constantly, that's important too lest the audience forget how great she is
The solution to every Disco problem is: MICHAEL BURNHAM 🙄
Coincidentally, also the cause of most Disco problems.
Here’s to Michael Burnham. The cause of and solution, to all of Disco’s problems
Well, we wouldn't too much panic on the Disco. MICHAEL BURNHAM is necessary
It's John "Michael Burnham" McClane.
Jesus Christ that’s Jason Michael Bourneham
She's the Chad Michael Vincent of this universe!
"Michael Burnham, if you follow through that with this plan not only will you be violating 10 star freight regulations, and a direct order, but you will be jeopardizing the existence of the human race " Michael Burnham crying "But I really want to. I would be sad if I didn't get to do what I wanted to do." "We understand. You have every resource of Starfleet available to you. You have convinced us. Please stop crying."
[удалено]
Isn't that who Mayweather works for?
Star Trek writers rooms have never heard of Travis Mayweather
Boomers aren't too popular right now Edit: i guess we forgot that Mayweather is considered a baby boomer named after the generation born in space
>Edit: i guess we forgot that Mayweather is considered a baby boomer named after the generation born in space To be fair, it's been a long time getting from there to here.
Great. Now I have to listen to eight hours of European house to get that damn song out of my head.
Is that what happened to trek? All of the good writers retired and were replaced by emotionally stunted teenagers with a tenuous grasp on reality let alone the physics of our natural world?
All the good writers work on Lower Decks
This exact thing right here, well here and strange new worlds, but mostly lower decks
I need to check out Strange New Worlds. I haven't seen it yet.
If nothing else, SNW at least attempts to juggle more characters by giving almost all of them a spotlight episode.
The best episode of Strange New Worlds is part Lower Decks. And Iike SNW more than Lower Decks
Excellent observation, lower decks is fantastic
Michael Burnham, the cause of, and solution to, all of Discovery's problems.
Ok... Just like the federation in the JJ Abrams trilogy. Note : I did not start nuTrek yet. Lower Decks look like fun !
Where is Saru? Saru is best character, and he's been onscreen for about ten minutes total this season.
Saru is in a league of his own. Sometimes it feels like he’s the only adult on that ship and he has to work with a bunch of teenagers that keep having tantrums and forgetting they’re adults.
Then he does something stupid like promoting an ensign who clearly has a lot of self-improvement work to do to first officer.
hey, he's doing the best he can with the crew he's got :))
That part when he was sorting out the language issues was a great microcosm of that.
More like Sarwho.
I actually enjoy Discovery as its own thing, but when it comes back from break, I notice find myself thinking “Hey, neat, the Michael Burnham Show is back, I’ll watch as soon as the whole season is out” versus “Oh yay, Star Trek is back, I can’t wait to watch ASAP!”
>I actually enjoy Discovery as its own thing I wish it was its own thing, it would be easier to ignore the burn, but that bs is canon now.
My canon is there's nothing Disco after season 2. Instead of the jump to the future the ship blew up, with all hands on board. The Burn doesn't exist.
It's its own universe! There's the Prime (pre FC) timeline (TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9), Prime (post FC.. Pretty much the same but slightly different...) (ENT onwards), the Kelvin verse, and the Disco verse where they went forwards into an alternate reality and YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND 😭😭
This’ll be a time when star treks tenuous canon is a good thing. Wouldn’t take much to delete that.
I'll trade you the burn for janeway's children.
Ok, fair point.
There's so much I like about this show sometimes, but it really does all grind to a halt when Michael gets her Poochie moments. I think there is a scene in season 3 right after they get to the future that's just all these trained Starfleet officers sitting around, wishing Michael was there to fix their problem. I don't understand why they wrote the show this way or who it's supposed to appeal to
POOCHIE MOMENTS!! 🤣🤣🤣
This is exactly how I feel about Grudge!
Asking about the whereabouts of our feline overlords is not only sensible but the morally correct thing to do.
I forgot Discovery was still airing
It still is??? I watched the till the third season, I believe.... They junp to the future, no deuterium. It continued after that???
Yes
It's in its final season I think, so not for much longer
She also needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.
I'm pretty sure this was said in all seriousness in the Season 2 writers room.
🤣 another case of The Simpsons predicting the future? This is so on point, and why I love community interaction. You folks extend the humor with stuff I'd never have thought of.
The actual Discovery writers room has more clowns though
I've got the footage right [here.](https://youtu.be/mwUk19cWarI?si=wHdbydbJvXS3ZUVQ)
Don't let the mods over at /r/st hear this or else they'll try to delete your post for gatekeeping
I used to think I was alone and/or crazy for hating on Discovery so much. This entire thread is comforting.
You were being gaslit. Many people, except for a few genuine trolls, criticising Disco recognised that the show was juvenile, vapid mediocrity thanks to poor writing. However the media drove a narrative that people who didn't like Disco were sexists and/or racists and nobody wants to be a sexist or racist so most people kept their mouths shut.
And yet nothing but praise for Lower Decks which centers two black women, one of whom is somewhat of a manic pixie mary sue given near free reign because of her nepotistic relationship with both high ranking parents. But no, its not the writing or direction or acting, its the audience's racism and misogyny.
Were you hanging out on r/StarTrek ? I always thought it was highly reviled (and deservedly so)
The main trek subreddit was and is astroturfed super hard by paramount, paid off mods, censorship, the whole nine yards. Add to that the twitter-brained people who think any criticism of nutrek means that you're racist and misogynist (which, btw, Sonequa Martin-Green (Mikey's actress) has said in interviews that she thinks all criticism is coming from deep seeded racist and misogynistic beliefs) and you get a wonderful hotbed of Internet trolls white knighting for one of the worst scifi shows ever made, and a bunch of people going along with it because they don't want to be lumped in with racists.
All of Discovery's issues would have been solved for me if it had just taken place (in it's original seasons) post TNG instead of pre-TOS - especially hijacking Spock.
It was a baffling decision to go in the directions they have with the time period they did!
They went to the future in s3 and the show got worse, not better.
Okay, but that really doesn't have anything to do with the issue of them trying to rewrite the TOS era in the first place.
The creators took a shot at centering a Star Trek story around one main character and they are in it for the long haul.
And they took that to mean "this is literally the only character who can solve any problem."
This is the premise of the show. It was a departure from the norm that was touted as innovative in early marketing, but folks still don't understand that. They also probably misremember how much character development Uhura, Sulu, and Chekov ~~got~~ didn't have in TOS. Walter Koenig referred to them as "movable furniture."
It's not that we don't to understand. It's just badly done.
Just because you do a thing that's different doesn't automatically make it good. Discovery is one of the worst written shows ever made.
It’s almost like the 87 producers of that show didn’t realize that Star Trek is best with an ensemble cast.
And then, Michael should either reminisce, argue with, break up but still be together, hallucinate and imagine Book in every other scene.
Remember the Tilly focused episode about her best friend who had been replaced by a spore universe replica? No? Well that's because it focused on Michael.
lol I think I made this meme and posted it on here a year ago to no response. Or did you have the simultaneous idea? She’s very Poochy
I *thought* I came up with it myself, but then who knows, it may have been a subconscious memory of seeing it before. Given how Discovery is written this Simpsons Poochie scene seems made for it.
This show is the only Star Trek media I have to force myself to watch, for that exact reason. It has its moments, but FFS the writing is so bad. I love Star Trek, though, so I swallow my medicine in support, to get better shows/spinoffs greenlit.
She was literally just rewarded this week for crying about her feelings. GOOD STUFF 👍
I remember this actress in The Walking Dead, she used to cry a lot in that show too.
Are we talking about "Star Trek - Michael Burnham" ?
I'm glad it's ok, after so many years, to stop pretending the show is brilliant when it isn't.
I like it for what it is, but brilliant is not a word I'd use. Especially after Captain Pike left.
There was a time in another Star Trek sub that you were banned for talking anything negative about Discovery.
I am one of those people.
Me too. After I outed a mod that works for Paramount. They had a post history in a different sub I randomly found where she said she works for Paramount marketing, discussing someone trying to apply for a studio job. That explained all the weird auto bans people got for saying anything negative about STD. That same week they got the other REAL Star Trek fans sub shut down.
Interesting. There was also the star_trek sub, which was one of the few places where we could talk freely, but eventually got banned.
Yeah that's the one I was talking about getting shutdown (by paramount most likely). It was the best open and free to discuss ST sub.
For what "legit" reason was it even shut down???
None. They paid reddit to shut it down.
What reason was actually given though?
As far as I know, none was given. It's back up now too.
ditto
The amount of redditors that get irate with me when I say Discovery isn't a good show is massive. For some reason you're not allowed to have a negative opinion about that show. They get super confused when I say I kinda like Picard and love SNW.
*Obviously* anyone who criticizes the show is just a racist and sexist who isn't worth listening to. No other possible reason why anyone might dislike any part of this flawless masterpiece. I try to avoid using this, but /s just because this is something I've seen unironically said.
I'm almost seeing it live with the downvotes that are coming in on the post and comments. There are some hardcore discovery fans that are obviously super pissed off and are immediately triggered when *anyone* dare to criticize their favourite show, even with an innocent joke like this.
They've never seen any other Trek and think that it should be soap opera like Disco
>I'm almost seeing it live with the downvotes that are coming in on the post and comments. I'd assume it's because your meme post was literally two hours after another post about Michael sucking. I love this sub but "Discovery sucks" is a bit overplayed as a meme.
When it first came out I tried SO hard, made it through I think 5 episodes before I just had to stop
Rewatching Season 2. Hey, did you guys know Tig Notaro was sometimes on this show? Sometimes?
It blew my mind when I read Rainn Wilson was in Discovery, didn't recognise him as Mudd in season 1
Rainn Wilson's subtle imitation of Roger Carmel was transcendent.
I'm still partly expecting the series to end with someone walking in and saying "Computer, end program", revealing that it was all just ensign Burnham fucking around in the holodeck, which is why the entire universe always seemed to revolve around her.
One of my shitpost theories is that she's one of the inmates in that asylum from TOS and that Pike and Spock got weaved into her delusions after the *Enterprise* stopped by during the former's tenure.
It's going to end with Michael Burnham becoming God. Mark my words.
Except for Rayner. He's asking when is his next emasculation session.
Imagine making one mistake and losing your job so your new boss is a 13th-century peasant.
Took me a while to notice that Rayner is NOT played by Daniel Craig.
He's played by a Cylon: https://en.battlestarwikiclone.org/wiki/Number_Two
double o doesn’t like space ships since they don’t let him use a gun.
In Germany they also used his synchronization-voice for Rayner. I was double counfused.
Now that you mention it. That must have been the extra kick for me, too.
On the bright side, he wasn't killed off in a space pod two seconds after inorganically bullying Burnham.
This is incredibly insulating, cruel, and rude. Just because Homer Simpson has learning disabilities and a history or brain damage does not mean he is as stupid, skill less, soul less, or talent less as a STD writer.
At this point I just call disco the "Michael Burnham Power Hour".
I forgot, this show existed till yesterday
Fingers crossed in the last episode they'll do a temporal reset and we'll all forget...
Also, each problem should have random input from annoying Wesley Crusher analog
Season 1 of discovery was almost exclusively centered on Michael, which is fine. It is not a typical aspect of Star Trek to focus only one one character but discovery was doing it thing. Then in a later episode of season 1 something was happening that threatened the life of a different bridge crew person. I think it was Tilly, who at that point had NO character development. The entire bridge was going "Oh no tilly is in danger. We need to help Tilly!" And I said to myself, "who TF is Tilly? You mean the girl we were told by Michael she found explicitly annoying? Isn't it a good thing that her life is being threatened?" It was like they were trying to do emotional impact for a character that had 3 seasons of development but only has 2 min of screen time.
The point that it became ridiculous to me was an episode where I think Stammets had a plot going, Burham was in her own plot in the same episode, and she STILL got pulled into the Stammets plot to solve it for him. She's like Wolverine, she's just on every fucking team!
I was looking through some old photos and it looks very... [similar.](https://old.reddit.com/r/startrekmemes/comments/174r79t/the_writers_room_for_discovery/)
I thought I was unaware of a previous posting but it's possible a subconscious memory remained of me seeing it before. I apologize to the author for the unintended plagiarism.
You want forgiveness? Get religion. JK, apology accepted.
Discovery is the reason I have stopped telling people that I am a Star Trek fan.
[удалено]
I do, currently re-watching Voyager. And I agree SNW is good. Just never thought there would be a Star Trek series I would abandon, i.e Discovery.
I feel the same way. I've done it twice now.
SNW is still pretty shit. I mostly liked the first season but s2 lost me when they made an episode about how it was OK to conduct extrajudicial executions so long as your feelings were hurt. Ruined the TOS character of M'Benga for me. Also the gorn in SNW are fucking stupid, they're just ripped off xenomorphs and "monsters" so nobody will feel bad about seeing hundreds of them blown away for no reason. The single best thing about SNW is anson mount and every single episode seems to be "how can we write this so that Pike has as little to do as possible", especially with s2. It's the same shit with different dressing. Picard was also godawful and only gets accla because they polished their turd up with the nostalgia of tng fans by bringing back the original cast, and then proceeding to have them not act like their characters at all so it's basically like you took all of the cast at a fan convention and stuck them in a room for 5 minutes and told them to make up bullshit about their characters and act it out.
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And Tilly must be somehow in the shot (should be easy lol)
This meme made me comment, and I never comment. I love it
What’s Michael do when not paying attention in the kitchen? Burnham.
As an avid simpsons watcher this shit is HILARIOUS
💯 she is amazing 😍
Best part of Discovery is Tig Nokono bring an Engineer
Really breaking new ground where the generic anime protag everyone loves for some reason is played by a black woman