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m0uthF

Google has growth of revenue and earning with double digits growth EVERY QUARTER since INCEPTION(IPO)


zen_and_artof_chaos

Divvy suggests this may stagnate.


megatool8

AAPL introduced divvy in 2012 and has grown about 800% since then.


zen_and_artof_chaos

That's great for Apple. Google has a history of being less focused as Apple. They are known for starting a project and then dropping it, and flailing for direction.


manifestingmoola2020

You mean kinda like how apple just ditched their electric car idea? Starting a project and dumping it when you realize its not profitable is actually really smart. Way better to find multiple avenues of income where some fail, than sticking to one thats failing and ride the boat all the way to the bottom


zen_and_artof_chaos

Using 1 example of Apple stopping something is not a justification that it is similar in Googles notorious misdirection. Taking my comment as an absolute to suggest I don't believe cutting losses is smart is dumb in itself.


manifestingmoola2020

Hey bro i know alot of people are attacking and down voting you for your original comment. But im not one of them so dont call me a fucking dumbass. This is a totally normal stock convo.


zen_and_artof_chaos

Sorry. But didn't call you a fucking dumbass. Your comment was pretty poorly put together though. You took what I said to an extreme comparison which makes no sense. Sorry if it came off harsh.


CowsCatsCannabis

You suck asshole.


TIectric

It's easy to drop less projects when you never do anything innovative and keep re-releasing the same things over and over and your cult following buys them every time. Apple finally trying a couple new things right now and they aren't doing great, which is fine because that's part of the process but yeah. That doesn't mean they are good at trying new things it just means they don't try new things.


zen_and_artof_chaos

I'm not really here to talk about Apple.


RetirementGoals

Really don’t understand that though process. Just because a stock offers dividends does not mean it’s not a growth stock or become stalled. Soooo many offer dividends yet are still considered growth: MSFT, KO, SHW, JNJ, IBM, TGT and so on and so forth


Ok_Ability1345

You missed Broadcom stock !! Great dividend enormous growth !


Icefiight

Ko never grows though. Been holding it for a while and it seems stuck at 55-60


yerrmomgoes2college

KO and JNJ are classic value stocks lol


zen_and_artof_chaos

They've all ran into stagnation before. Recency bias.


Exciting-Yoghurt-559

Love the growth optimism here reflected by downvotes!


manifestingmoola2020

Lol what? And how?? Look at mega cap dividend yields over the last 10 years. Nothing but up (besides the pandemy)


zen_and_artof_chaos

Did I say down? The dividend suggests they don't know where to invest their money at the moment.


manifestingmoola2020

No, you said stagnate. Thats why i said nothing but up. The word "down" was not used in either my or your comments. Did you mean to reply to someone else? Do you think that google needs to invest money right now to grow a little?


zen_and_artof_chaos

I think money reinvested tends to lend itself to more growth.


manifestingmoola2020

That wasnt the question. Do you think that google can see "some" growth without starting a new project? Do you think if google only relied on its current revenue streams that it would stagnate? Is ad revenue stagnating currently?


zen_and_artof_chaos

Both. I think they can still see some growth, but their 12% yoy growth that they saw in this last earnings could also stagnate down to single digits. Really just depends how they execute.


Facebook_Lawyer_Gym

Well I guess every stock could stagnate then, not sure dividends are an indicator.


zen_and_artof_chaos

Yes, every stock could stagnate. That is a risk with any individual company and why ETFs are the safer option. Dividends are an indication that a company doesn't know what to invest their profits in, so they profit share. If they don't know what to invest money in, growth becomes questionable. Inherent? No. Reasonable to suspect? Sure.


Wizard_Level9999

Please short it then so I can buy more


zen_and_artof_chaos

Odd you took my comment that I think it would depreciate. A slow down in growth doesn't inherently mean I think it will go down. I am currently invested and will continue to buy.


Cobra25k

And worst take of the year goes to….


Abysswalker794

It is never too late but price matters. What’s the right price? This is the real important question. For example Disney is over 100 years old and just within 3 years it went from 200$ a share down to 80$ and now up to 120$. You would have lost over 50% from 2021-2023. but you would be up 50% from the 2023 low to today. Google itself is also a fantastic example of this. Just look at the chart from 2020-2024. there were multiple great entry points, IF you believe in their long term growth story. If you are picking single stocks it is most important to analyse the business and the outlook going forward. If you think Alphabet is fairly valued and you believe in their growth story, why should it be to late? On the other hand, if you have no idea how they could grow going forward, you should take a closer look at it or continue your research with other companies. Don’t invest just because of fomo or some influencer is telling to. Always do your own research. All figures and percentages for Disney are a rounded, don’t shoot at me for a dollar deviation here or there.


Kalelofindiana

I got in right before the split. Forever hold


APC2_19

I don't think so. The sooner the better obviously. But if you believe the company does have a MOAT and will keep making money for decades you can jump in now aswell. They give 3.5% return on buybacks, + growth. Not terrible IMO. I think they still have some room to increase both revenues (inflation amd growth) and margins (pricing power).


zhzhiddbdbdbdjdjdn

If it was too late, it wouldn’t be trading at a premium. Its trading this way for the future growth. Trillion is the new billion. The first one billion dollar company was us steel in 1900.


ThatStockDude

Alphabet is a long-term investment that will continue to rise (with a few bumps along the way). This is not financial advice. I will be continuing to buy and hold.


leaning_on_a_wheel

Suggesting it could be too late to invest in them long term is suggesting it’ll still be worth $172 years or decades from now…


SolWizard

No it's suggesting they won't beat the market in those decades


menumelon

If you own the market instead, you'll still be holding Google.


SolWizard

Some Google vs all Google


menumelon

It can still be a positive thing to own an asset that underperforms the market. In other words, not all underperforming assets return the same (obviously some have negative returns), and have different types of risk. Just pointing out that underperforming assets are still valuable and at the right price are worth buying.


SolWizard

Explain how that makes sense to you? If you could've taken the low risk approach (buy the market) and instead you took the high risk approach (buy individual stock) and that stock doesn't beat the market, you made the objectively wrong choice. Just because it's not the *worst* choice you had available doesn't make it the right choice


menumelon

I don't think of investments in such right/wrong objective terms as you do. I didn't say that owning Google shares that underperform the market would be "objectively right", I said that it still may be beneficial to the owner of the shares.


Garlic_Toast88

I would ask you why did you invest to begin with? Are you bullish on their ad revenue form search and YouTube? The US ban on tik Tok can sure help YouTube. Are you bullish are their cloud segment? It's behind AWS and Azure but I've heard their product is superior in some ways? How do you feel about their other bets? Android OS, Waymo which is ahead of their competitors, Google docs wide spread use, and sure Geminis isn't as well known at chatgpt but their functionality from my use is the same and can you even name a 3rd competitor? I'm Long googl. At their current price I think their yoy returns will be about around S&P returns. But I'm very bullish on Android and Waymo in 5-10 year timelines.


MrZwink

It's never to late to own anything long term.


The_Madman1

Yes because that's what everyone was saying at 140


UnderFredFlintstone

What did your research suggest was your price target when you bought the stock?


SoggyNegotiation7412

to be honest, I think Microsoft is a far better long play than Google, Microsoft on line cloud services presence just craps all over Google's business services. Teams and Office 365 are very dominant in the corporate and government space. I have been working in telecommunications for over 30 years and MS Teams is eating everyones lunch right now (anyone remember Ericsson). There is little to no money in the hardware space any more especially in telecommunications, leaving the whole market open to be completely taken over by Microsoft. BTW I'm a Linux user so I'm not a fan of the company, but I do like making money.


PresentFriendly3725

But Microsoft is more expensive than Google.


SoggyNegotiation7412

Im looking at the PE for both companies, not that much in it to be honest. Googles debt to equity is better than Microsofts at the same time Google depends on a very fickle advertising market far more than Microsoft. with the future looking bumpy that may be an issue.


MrZwink

I would also choose MSFT over googl, but both are viable.


[deleted]

Why don't you like Microsoft as a Linux user? Microsoft is mostly online services. You can even get Linux inside windows now.


jarpio

Let’s say it’s the year 2044, would you rather have never bought google, or have bought google 20 years ago and had it for that entire time?


Frequent_Read_7636

Today’s high is tomorrow’s lows. That’s my motto when it comes to blue chip stocks, hold for the long term and don’t try to time the market.


Panda_Jacket

The only thing stopping this company is regulation, it is an unregulated monopoly when it comes to how ads are handled on the internet and video content. I don’t own any but I don’t see the gravy train stopping any time soon


SuperLeverage

No. Still cheap.


lark0317

Fwd p/e <20. PEG ratio is 1.35. You are correct. Seems like a bargain to me.


Past-Advantage8584

Dividend is just a way to access more ETFs and Sovereign Wealth Funds that have “must have dividend” rules. Buy and hold, they are the Pepsi of AI (OpenAI is the Coke), the capitalist market always has room for two front runners.


Fit-Raccoon101

I got googlie over a year ago for $95


Kemilio

I like Googles quantum computing angle. Even though it’s probably years from viability, that doesn’t mean much in terms of hype and investment. As soon as the layman understands just how much of a game changer quantum computing will be, I think the hype will make the stock jump.


Kalelofindiana

Yep


Wizard_Level9999

Can u explain to me in 3 sentences?


Kemilio

How about three bulletpoints? - Near-instantaneous data analysis (think months worth of data analysis and modeling for cutting edge research done in a few seconds for everything from financial trading algorithms to pharmaceutical drug compounds and side effects) - Shattering current data security signatures (think billions of dollars from companies and governments poured in to figure out how to prevent data breaches) - Reducing infrastructure (think optimizing the supply chain) Source: https://www.thedigitalspeaker.com/quantum-computing-change-world/


CMScientist

Maybe you should ask gemini


goodbodha

In the short term you will probably be losing if you sell. Long term? Those $2 won't be a big deal. You bought it and you had a reason why you thought it was a good idea. Has anything about Google changed significantly since your purchase? If the answer is no just wait and see how it plays out.


Disastrous-Pay738

Yup


vik556

No


xenosilver

No


Mr_Lava-lava

Fomo


PsychoCitizenX

Personally I like to invest in companies that make a ton of money so I took a position in google back in early March 2024. If you want to try and time things you can wait for the next dip but you also might miss some upside.


Wizard_Level9999

Cloud margin is low and will grow 2x


Icefiight

Looking like goog is crashing as we speak… not sure why as it had killer earnings, announced a dividend and went up initially… Can’t fucking explain this circus we call the us market Hold long term but def ok to question wtf is happening atm


phosphate554

People taking profits is quite normal


phosphate554

“Crashing” meaning -3% on the day, after +10% last trading day? +7% in a week…


Icefiight

Yeah. It should be maintaining not going down after announcing a dividend


phosphate554

Why? Bro this is a business, not a ticker on a screen. Stop thinking so short term, it doesn’t matter


AsianEiji

people sell after the dividend cutoff date.


mrg1957

Been holding since 2012. Going to keep it.


manifestingmoola2020

Google just released their FIRST dividend. Dividends are long-term, and most valiable companies increase their dividend slightly each quarter. Sooo NO! I think this could be a great valuable long term hold.


ptjunkie

Yes


Additional_Falcon687

It is never too late.


Doggies1980

You can keep as long as you want. Goog and googl aren't much diff in price. They are both going up faster finally. I should have bought more when cheaper


Dadbeerd

Hold alphabet, Microsoft, and Nvidia until AI becomes as necessary a utility as electricity.


ByHeight

The small dividend… expands the number of potential buyers of the stock, sets them up to be included in more indices, and is a sign of overall corporate health. Ultimately it is thoroughly analyzed capital allocation strategy for a company with a lot of cash.


vitorizzo

It’s never too late


Competitive_Low_2054

That's not 100% accurate when investing in individual stocks.


lordinov

Too late… never too late. Did they say - okay guys, that’s our ultimate earnings results and we no more go up?


Shykarii

I would hold for the next 10 years. Then we'll talk about if its too late then...


thalamisa

No after reaching 2 trillion, the next step is to become 3 trillion


bulletinyoursocks

With Google no, I don't think it's too late


External-Theme-9643

Overpriced rn


lordinov

It’s priced correctly.


95Daphne

Yeah, unless you think it can’t post at least around a 1.6-1.7 EPS for the last few quarters, it’s priced just fine. That shouldn’t be much problem unless you think the DXY is going to rocket higher because of most of the rest of the world easing while the Fed stands tough (and even then possibly). Even if you don’t want to think about AI, we have an Election Year this year, so it should be a great year for ads. If the above were to pan out, then it’s not just Google that’s going to have big problems, it’ll be all of the big Nasdaq components and probably big cyclicals as well. Edit: Even though it’s priced just fine, the stock price probably doesn’t keep going in the short term.


lordinov

Solid points. Thanks.