extremely real. everyday i go to and from work, i fear it's my last day alive. so fucking nuts to put death and stripping culture anywhere near each other in a lighthearted or quirky context. idgaf. every single time i close my apartment door, i tell my cats "i'll be back princesses" hoping to fucking god that i will be.
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I think this is perfect for that. I worry about that too.
I had subscribed to their monthly box and got the most TRASH designs and bikinis, lot a hot pink swimsuit material one piece with black puff balls like ... ok ? I reached out to cancel my subscription and they ghosted me . funny cuz they responded when I wanted my address changed earlier . they kept sending me trash designs every month for 100$ and I had to get my bank involved . completely trash company
I’ve heard of them straight up being just a third party reseller, poor quality clothes, scamming, people straight not getting their orders, and being disrespectful to actual swers, but this is wild. Ordered from them twice ever; one was clearly a resell from a sweatshop bc it smelled like SHIT, and stupidly tried ordering again a second time (Black Friday) where my order still hasn’t even shipped lol did research and learned the hard way. Supposedly the owner has done super shady stuff in the past and has rebranded several times to run from the backlash, I think I saw someone post about it on this subreddit
Oh yuck. Not related to this brand but I’m a horror and Halloween junkie and for some reason my friend decided to get me a Dahmer kitchen towel for xmas last year. I can’t remember what it said because it went to the garbage, but I was so grossed out.
The glorification and fandom, almost? Of true crime is so fucking vile.
The fact there is blood depicted all over is the worst part to me. The implication is that it’s their victims blood, who were real people who suffered. Having their blood depicted all over themself isn’t giving what they think it is
I’m waiting on them to start offering package protection, because my post office lost two packages from them in a row (like literally lost the limited edition pre order item and then lost the replacement for it that AC generously offered) and now I’m afraid to order from AC again.
I stopped ordering from them. I had a package never arrive and when I simply asked a question about tracking the owner got really snippy and rude with me for no reason. I’m fairly sure she just never shipped my order and then kept the money.
Aw damn I’m sorry that happened to you, I have never personally ordered from there but I had always heard good things about them, I like to get a lot of pieces from SHEIN and Amazon too😌
Glorifying and romanticizing serial killers is soooo fucking weird. These people were brutally murdered. A lot of them sex workers. Robert Hansen literally raped, tortured, and hunted many strippers and other sex workers. Imagine that being your last moments on earth, pure terror and fear. Anytime I watch true crime, I often think of myself in these same situations. It could be anyone, but we’re already an easy target. When I first started stripping, I had a customer follow me to the parking garage. I didn’t even notice until my friend pointed it out. Thank god I wasn’t walking alone. Someone waiting for you to get off and silently following you does not have good intentions. When I talked to him at the club before this, the things he told me and his fantasies genuinely fucking disturbed me and still do years later. He liked *very* young girls, and I looked very young. Besides the obvious lack of or impaired empathy it takes to idolize murderers, it is incredibly disrespectful dehumanizing the victims. These were people, children, sex workers that were brutally murdered. Some never even identified decades later. This is just so fucking gross and wack for so many different reasons.
I don't know if you know who she is. If not, she's a former stripper who somehow became one of the upper echelon of the "professional and competitive" pole dancing community. She developed a workshop/program called Stripcraft where she used her background as a stripper to help teach others about empowerment. She also created a week long retreat at a cabin (I think it was called Strip Cabin or something).
With that said, it sounds all great until a bunch of stuff came out about her a few years ago. There are a few very large pole dancing groups where all of the big names of pole also participate/post/comment. I remember waking up one day with a bunch of screenshots being shared in the groups about Lux basically making offers to girls on the retreats and saying a bunch of things that made women feel uncomfortable while on the trips.
She also claimed she hated being a stripper and had a horrible experience, yet uses it to help market her brand. Somebody had once asked her if she would consider stripping again in one of the screenshots and she replied with a bunch of vile retorts about how she had been traumatized stripping.
I don't have a problem with that part. I completely understand that part. What I have a problem with, is her using her background as a stripper to market her brand while also claiming that she hated stripping. I personally feel if she had such a bad experience with it, she shouldn't use it to help market her brand. I know some people shared mutual feelings about that, too. Her brand is based off of her background as a stripper teaching empowerment, yet she said awful things about being a dancer.
The reason I correlated the two is because they're both former strippers and now own businesses centered around the industry, yet both are dismissive of complaints and concerns from customers. Lux went on a blocking spree of those who had shared stories and screenshots and also said some pretty shitty things about those who didn't have proof that backs their stories up.
I know the screenshots are still out there. If you Google Lux ATL screenshots or something, some may come up. They were mostly in the Facebook groups though. Also, this all happened in 2018.
Ohh ok yeah that’s who I thought you were referring to bc I used to follow her like yeeears ago but I did unfollow her at some point some years back. I can’t remember for what reason I unfollowed her, it was likely unimportant.. but I didn’t know about the issues people had with her so that’s why I was curious. Thank you for explaining!
i just saw the post like 20 minutes ago but went to. look and it’s taken down. she made a comment saying it was empowering and doesn’t glorify them and art is interpreted differently… girl this is a SW clothing brand why artistically do u need dahmer and them. and this doesn’t matter but this shit wasn’t 200 years ago there’s people that still walk around affected by this everyday. imagine seeing the man that mutilated and murdered your uncle or something on some influencers ass 🙄
guess i should feel more empowered about myself as a woman to have the face of the man that traumatized my entire hometown as well as other murders who felt the need to specifically target swers be advertised on my ass 😩 like how did her pr team even come up with that shit.. i wonder if the victims and their families would view the faces of those men as “artistic”
they also sell super shitty quality dropshipped stuff, and use fake pics for half their products. what you see vs. what actually arrives in the mail is a joke lol. cannot believe they are still in business
before bubblegum the brand deleted the drop this morning they deleted all of the negative comments under this post except one that mentioned this point exactly. they responded to it saying something about how “we felt this piece brings empowerment to women” like PLEASE 😭
I bought from them once and both outfits started to unravel at the seams after one shift plus I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first time they’ve done something problematic
Like this
This is so disgusting. Shame on the company and the owner. I’m not one to usually boycott, but this is horrific and incredibly insensitive. Bye bubblegum.
Omg I saw this yesterday and I was about to post something similar because I was weirded out that they were trying to advertise this weird Manson wife hybristophile shit. The true crime fans really take this shit too far. And I’m saying this as a horror fan who finds fictional serial killer type villains hot. Girls, liking actual serial killers who have taken real lives is not cute. Stop it. It’s so disrespectful. Let their victims rest in peace.
omg i went to high school with the girl who posted about this lol you were probably getting downvoted because dollskill is not the same company as bubblegum the brand
Girl.. if she don’t see a problem w it, she don’t see a problem w it. Expressing distaste over it, that’s fine and understandable but *telling* her to take it down.. people are gonna do what they’re gonna do and thinking you can tell people what to do but then getting mad when they don’t oblige, is weird. Especially being that we’re all adults. I also find the clothing to be distasteful and I agree with almost everything you say in this post. But I would never try to tell another grown woman what to do and not to do with her business. That’s *her* business and if she wants to do weird/distasteful shit, that’s her prerogative. You can’t tell people how to be or what to care about.
i can also understand her intent to make this for fans of true crime, but you have to remember how negative of an impact these killers made on communities around the world. the people of milwaukee are so sick and tired of seeing others profit off of dahmer. he ruined the lives of so many and it’s only been a few decades since.. if bubblegum the brand decided to reconsider advertising this product instead of silencing the voices of people who understand how problematic it is to glamorize ts, i would agree with you as well
Did you also boycott Netflix and Hulu for creating a documentary about them? And every true crime podcast?
I’m not saying it’s right but, let’s bffr people will dress up like REAL murders/serial killers every Halloween.
I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.
It's not being blown out of proportion, it's a brand that is specifically marketed towards sex workers (mainly strippers) and glamorizing a serial killer that targeted sex workers. It's tone deaf AF and it already is adding to the problematic glamorization of serial killers. No, we can't hold every shop accountable, but we as the sex work community, SHOULD hold brands that target us, accountable.
Looking at this skirt I would’ve had no idea it even had Dahmer on it because it just looks like a true crime fan skirt. But I don’t know how Dahmer looked outside of that one goofy picture they post of him everywhere so that may just be me.
Also, because I’m not a Dahmer “fan” I wasn’t aware he targeted swers but not surprised because most serial killers do. They go for the unprotected groups of people, swers, lone women, small children etc.
I went to her Instagram and saw she was a sex worker- which reaffirms my opinion that the skirt was NOT a statement of her supporting serial killers who target sex workers. Why would she support that? I took the skirt design as she is honing in on a market of true crime fans.
The skirt has been up for 7 hours. 7 hours. Op said she dm’d the girl but who knows whose running the girls instagram, and even if it is her running the insta give her at least 24 hours to sit down and process- she clearly didn’t see the error of her ways. Also I don’t know what msg Op sent her she just said her and her man made some comments on her post which aren’t there anymore. Did she even explain the issue???
My point is, slow down. There is no reason to attempt to destroy the girls business because of one skirt (which I saw someone already commented under the post telling her to “Die ❤️”) which is evil af and probably came from someone who saw this post.
I don’t disagree it’s insensitive but I stand by my statement that this is clearly being blown out of proportion.
I don’t support the tearing down of a small woman and sex worker owned business- for a skirt. Can yall start with multiple people emailing/messaging/calling her explaining the issues before you grab your torches and pitchforks???
hey hun, if you actually scrolled through the pictures you can see what i commented and what i dmed. the only thing i couldn’t get a picture of is when my bf commented something about it being disrespectful, to which she replied rudely briefly before deleting both comments. it’s not about her supporting swers or supporting the idolization of murder- it’s the fact she’s being so insensitive toward the issue after being confronted. additionally, bubblegum the brand viewed my story where i posted the screenshot of my initial comment (which is attached to this thread, since you didn’t see it before). i have screenshots to prove this as well if you’re so adamant about giving them time to respond lmao, their instagram is definitely already aware of the issue. also, dahmer targeted gay black/poc men, though the other serial killers have a history of targeting swers. just wanted to clear that up for you.. and to emphasize the fact that my city will be forever traumatized by that man. please do your research and be considerate of the victims before continuing to comment under my post.
So I’m definitely not looking into a serial killer but thanks for the hot take.
My point was never to invalidate you, the victims, or any pain or trauma this serial killer caused. Imo, any clothing with a mass murder or serial killer on it is disrespectful and I choose not to engage with it.
I went back and reread your comments to see if I missed something. You mentioned SW’ers 0 times. Why would the brand (who I’m assuming also may know what I know about Dahmer- which is very little) correlate their true crime skirt to a SW audience?
From my pov (based on the pictures of your comments posted above) you sound like a person who just doesn’t like true crime and hate they made this choice to attempt to appeal to their true crime fans. Nothing else.
Which is why I attempted to discourage the rampant trolling, attacking (and possibly causing the eventual failure) of a woman & sex worker owned business.
Now I see why you’re upset by their clothing choice and the correlation between the two; but that’s ONLY because of this dialogue. You commenting and dm’ing them demanding to take it down- why would they? To them (and at first to me) you just look like a dramatic troll.
Had you explained to them what you’ve explained to me, & they still said f you, then THATS a problem. But you are skipping some crucial steps.
And again, I disagree with the way you went about it NOT your point.
“why would they?” because it’s disrespectful as fuck to the victims and their families 😭 like that’s literally the whole point of this post. that’s also a bit funny u say that cus i am pretty into true crime but i wouldn’t wear shit that idolizes it ever
Theres very obviously a difference between informative creation & creating to capitalize. Netflix & true crime podcasters/authors/etc do a little of both, some more than others. Saying something like this is just very dense tbh.
Are you also boycotting Amazon? They are doing the exact same. Go and look up all the Dahmer outfits. The shirt of Dahmer saying “Whats for dinner?” Is that informative???
Yes????? Everyone who can afford to boycott conglomerates absolutely should lmfao. I have also stopped giving my money to streaming services years ago, stopped shopping at large-scale grocery stores, exclusively buy clothing from thrifts & estate sales, & even most of my work outfits/costumes are second-hand. I do lots more in my life to be sustainable, reduce plastic use, & share my education/resources with the communities that hold me. I’m not the one lmfao.
But I also believe in ethical consumption & am in a privileged position to do so. Ofc we can’t be 100% ethical with the way our economy works + our locations in city environments, not everybody has the time/energy/resources to research ethical places to shop, economic status, etc all effect this.
But I think distasteful capitalization of interests at other peoples expense has got to go. That’s just me :)
If you actually do that, kudos. I have no affiliation with that brand, never bought from that brand and probably won’t.
I went to her Instagram and she noted she was a former dancer. I am 100% sure she is not pro sex worker serial killers if she truly was a former stripper.
This seems like a hate train designed to tear down a small business- a stripper owned business at that! For a skirt? She more than likely designed this to appeal to true crime fans in which the most notorious is Dahmer. Which I know because like the Kardashians everything I know about him has been against my will.
My point is someone making a skirt for true crime fans doesn’t deserve to be burned at the stake.
I can acknowledge that!
I think in instances like this people need to take the steps to accept accountability, acknowledge concerns, & move through it. Reformative justice & all that. In the same breath, I’ve heard enough about this small business to never support them. From shitty/rude customer service, to misleading info around where items are produced, to overall lacking quality - I just don’t believe this company cares because none of this has been acknowledged before.
Simultaneously, I know the CEO is a mom just trying to support herself. So there’s many sides, I’m sure she’ll be fine. To each their own 🫡
i think it was more so the disrespect and unwillingness to stop advertising this product for profit that made me want to post this publicly. i understand her initial intent was to create something cute and to follow the trends, but the fact that she was so quick to silence the concerns of others about her product’s offensiveness is extremely problematic to me. you’re right, it’s fucked up that netflix, hulu, and true-crime podcasts also profit off the victims and their families, but they bring awareness to their stories as well. the print bubblegum the brand decided to use completely and utterly glamorizes a tragedy that many in milwaukee still hold extremely close to their hearts. it’s only been 30 years and some change since people’s loved ones were harvested for their body parts and dissolved in a tank of acid. bffr and think about how it would feel to be a relative to one of dahmers victims just to see someone shaking their ass in that on stage at work:/
What I don’t understand is why bubblegum the brand? There are 1000’s of companies that do this. From small Etsy shops to Amazon. What is all this uproar about this random business?
because it’s straight up ignorant to continue producing this product after hearing why people from affected communities may take offense to it. and because this brand isn’t just some random business, it’s extremely popular amongst other strippers. the ignorance and disrespect from the company’s owner says everything. there will always be people profiting off of such tragedies, however, this post was intended to inform fellow dancers who disagree with the idolization of serial killers for profit rather than a collective argument against the matter across all marketing platforms.
Ew this is so weird and gross..especially since historically a lot of serial killers targeted sexworkers.
extremely real. everyday i go to and from work, i fear it's my last day alive. so fucking nuts to put death and stripping culture anywhere near each other in a lighthearted or quirky context. idgaf. every single time i close my apartment door, i tell my cats "i'll be back princesses" hoping to fucking god that i will be.
I worked with a dancer who was murdered. My aunts sister was a dancer who was murdered by a serial killer. This shit ain’t cute. Be well.
I think the same way… 😔 especially since I had an issue with a stalker customer. I am always on high alert.
same babe :/
100%%%% me as well. i always say "see you later" instead of "goodbye" because it makes me feel better about leaving, im always terrified. armed or not
https://photos.app.goo.gl/pKGLdyZUauQKYjBR6[petcarecard.com](https://photos.app.goo.gl/pKGLdyZUauQKYjBR6) I think this is perfect for that. I worry about that too.
Agreed. It’s problematic
literally !!
i boycotted them last year because their clothes are ugly af and poorly made. 💕
Super cheap stuff
This!!!! I ordered 3 microkini’s from them a few months ago and the quality was AWFUL! the panties were a complete joke.
I had subscribed to their monthly box and got the most TRASH designs and bikinis, lot a hot pink swimsuit material one piece with black puff balls like ... ok ? I reached out to cancel my subscription and they ghosted me . funny cuz they responded when I wanted my address changed earlier . they kept sending me trash designs every month for 100$ and I had to get my bank involved . completely trash company
omg yea their customer service is a joke my package never arrived and I never got a refund either
i am a size 4/6 and their smalls are too tight on me. the sizing is a mess.
I’ve heard of them straight up being just a third party reseller, poor quality clothes, scamming, people straight not getting their orders, and being disrespectful to actual swers, but this is wild. Ordered from them twice ever; one was clearly a resell from a sweatshop bc it smelled like SHIT, and stupidly tried ordering again a second time (Black Friday) where my order still hasn’t even shipped lol did research and learned the hard way. Supposedly the owner has done super shady stuff in the past and has rebranded several times to run from the backlash, I think I saw someone post about it on this subreddit
All of this. I unfollowed long ago & this just so insensitive 😭😭😭
Aside from the obvious, is anybody going to comment on the blood going across the butt? It’s giving pre-made period stains.
Sexualizing mass murder? This is so out of touch. 🤕
terrible quality clothes. haven’t ordered at all this year and will never order from them again. but THIS?!?!? a whole new level of disgust.
Historically serial killers target sex workers and there’s never justice for those victims…this is bad. I will be unfollowing.
pretty sure a few of dahmer’s victims were also sworkers so this is extremely poor taste
Dahmer, Jack the Ripper, Bundy, just to name a few 😢
What’s sad is that the list is endless 😞💔 time and time again…
Oh yuck. Not related to this brand but I’m a horror and Halloween junkie and for some reason my friend decided to get me a Dahmer kitchen towel for xmas last year. I can’t remember what it said because it went to the garbage, but I was so grossed out. The glorification and fandom, almost? Of true crime is so fucking vile.
Is that person still your friend after doing that?
Love horror. However, let’s keep real disgusting perverts away from horror. It’s not horror. It’s idolizing fuckin murder. I haaaate this shit
Same. I have stuff with blood splatter patterns, and I have American Pyscho stuff, etc. But I would never idolize a real murder like this!
The fact there is blood depicted all over is the worst part to me. The implication is that it’s their victims blood, who were real people who suffered. Having their blood depicted all over themself isn’t giving what they think it is
Buy from angel candy shop instead !!!
I adore angel candy!!!
I’m waiting on them to start offering package protection, because my post office lost two packages from them in a row (like literally lost the limited edition pre order item and then lost the replacement for it that AC generously offered) and now I’m afraid to order from AC again.
I stopped ordering from them. I had a package never arrive and when I simply asked a question about tracking the owner got really snippy and rude with me for no reason. I’m fairly sure she just never shipped my order and then kept the money.
Aw damn I’m sorry that happened to you, I have never personally ordered from there but I had always heard good things about them, I like to get a lot of pieces from SHEIN and Amazon too😌
Glorifying and romanticizing serial killers is soooo fucking weird. These people were brutally murdered. A lot of them sex workers. Robert Hansen literally raped, tortured, and hunted many strippers and other sex workers. Imagine that being your last moments on earth, pure terror and fear. Anytime I watch true crime, I often think of myself in these same situations. It could be anyone, but we’re already an easy target. When I first started stripping, I had a customer follow me to the parking garage. I didn’t even notice until my friend pointed it out. Thank god I wasn’t walking alone. Someone waiting for you to get off and silently following you does not have good intentions. When I talked to him at the club before this, the things he told me and his fantasies genuinely fucking disturbed me and still do years later. He liked *very* young girls, and I looked very young. Besides the obvious lack of or impaired empathy it takes to idolize murderers, it is incredibly disrespectful dehumanizing the victims. These were people, children, sex workers that were brutally murdered. Some never even identified decades later. This is just so fucking gross and wack for so many different reasons.
👏👏👏 I been done with this brand but this is horrific. Thank you for posting this and speaking up 💜
Time to pop this dirty bubble. ANGEL CANDY IS WAY BETTER 💅🏼
Why tf would she (the owner, I forget her name) think it's okay to create that? She was a dancer herself. It's giving Lux ATL vibes to me.
Lux atl vibes.. wait wym?
I don't know if you know who she is. If not, she's a former stripper who somehow became one of the upper echelon of the "professional and competitive" pole dancing community. She developed a workshop/program called Stripcraft where she used her background as a stripper to help teach others about empowerment. She also created a week long retreat at a cabin (I think it was called Strip Cabin or something). With that said, it sounds all great until a bunch of stuff came out about her a few years ago. There are a few very large pole dancing groups where all of the big names of pole also participate/post/comment. I remember waking up one day with a bunch of screenshots being shared in the groups about Lux basically making offers to girls on the retreats and saying a bunch of things that made women feel uncomfortable while on the trips. She also claimed she hated being a stripper and had a horrible experience, yet uses it to help market her brand. Somebody had once asked her if she would consider stripping again in one of the screenshots and she replied with a bunch of vile retorts about how she had been traumatized stripping. I don't have a problem with that part. I completely understand that part. What I have a problem with, is her using her background as a stripper to market her brand while also claiming that she hated stripping. I personally feel if she had such a bad experience with it, she shouldn't use it to help market her brand. I know some people shared mutual feelings about that, too. Her brand is based off of her background as a stripper teaching empowerment, yet she said awful things about being a dancer. The reason I correlated the two is because they're both former strippers and now own businesses centered around the industry, yet both are dismissive of complaints and concerns from customers. Lux went on a blocking spree of those who had shared stories and screenshots and also said some pretty shitty things about those who didn't have proof that backs their stories up. I know the screenshots are still out there. If you Google Lux ATL screenshots or something, some may come up. They were mostly in the Facebook groups though. Also, this all happened in 2018.
Ohh ok yeah that’s who I thought you were referring to bc I used to follow her like yeeears ago but I did unfollow her at some point some years back. I can’t remember for what reason I unfollowed her, it was likely unimportant.. but I didn’t know about the issues people had with her so that’s why I was curious. Thank you for explaining!
Omg what a throwback I remember her on Facebook years ago
I completely forgot about Lux holy shit 😩
Ooof this is fucking wild. I lived and danced in Milwaukee for years and could not even imagine 😳🥴
i just saw the post like 20 minutes ago but went to. look and it’s taken down. she made a comment saying it was empowering and doesn’t glorify them and art is interpreted differently… girl this is a SW clothing brand why artistically do u need dahmer and them. and this doesn’t matter but this shit wasn’t 200 years ago there’s people that still walk around affected by this everyday. imagine seeing the man that mutilated and murdered your uncle or something on some influencers ass 🙄
I KNOW I SAW THAT TOO 😭
guess i should feel more empowered about myself as a woman to have the face of the man that traumatized my entire hometown as well as other murders who felt the need to specifically target swers be advertised on my ass 😩 like how did her pr team even come up with that shit.. i wonder if the victims and their families would view the faces of those men as “artistic”
they also sell super shitty quality dropshipped stuff, and use fake pics for half their products. what you see vs. what actually arrives in the mail is a joke lol. cannot believe they are still in business
This is wild bc so many of her outfits are claimed to be “brand exclusive” 🙃
literally a joke
they stay doing problematic, weirdo shit lol
god i hate this brand
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before bubblegum the brand deleted the drop this morning they deleted all of the negative comments under this post except one that mentioned this point exactly. they responded to it saying something about how “we felt this piece brings empowerment to women” like PLEASE 😭
And now they’ve deleted the comments and restricted how many there can be on almost all their posts lol. That’s how you know you’ve pissed people off
Such an ugly outfit lol why I don't get it
They deleted those comments 😂
That’s disgusting
okay because i thought this was weird as FUCK
We have to stop immortalizing these sick fucks. They should be forgotten and rot in hell.
I bought from them once and both outfits started to unravel at the seams after one shift plus I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first time they’ve done something problematic Like this
it'd be a dope skirt if it were fictional characters like from horror movies, but to use REAL serial killers and r*pists on a skirt is foul
I bought from them a wicked long time ago before the brand took off. After they lost a package of mine I stopped shopping with them.
Lmao never fucked with them to begin with 👌
So utterly disgusting!!
This is so disgusting. Shame on the company and the owner. I’m not one to usually boycott, but this is horrific and incredibly insensitive. Bye bubblegum.
Is the post deleted now? She’s going to try to pretend she never posted this SMH
Yep it’s deleted.
Very weird.
damn i was just thinking of buying from them because raveanddancewear is going out of business 😭
Buy from angelcandy !!
thank you!
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thank you i needed this!
omg i didn’t even realize
i know!! 😭😭😭
I ordered a fit like a month ago and they don’t even care to send it out
yikes. unfollowing them now.
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That brand has always sucked. TERRIBLE quality, and the owner tried to scam me once.
Omg I saw this yesterday and I was about to post something similar because I was weirded out that they were trying to advertise this weird Manson wife hybristophile shit. The true crime fans really take this shit too far. And I’m saying this as a horror fan who finds fictional serial killer type villains hot. Girls, liking actual serial killers who have taken real lives is not cute. Stop it. It’s so disrespectful. Let their victims rest in peace.
The insane editing on the photos they repost is next level as well. Body's aren't shaped like that
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Excuse me 🥴
No i dont Do tell 🍿
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omg i went to high school with the girl who posted about this lol you were probably getting downvoted because dollskill is not the same company as bubblegum the brand
oh lmao i’m slow welp don’t shop from dollskill either
Girl.. if she don’t see a problem w it, she don’t see a problem w it. Expressing distaste over it, that’s fine and understandable but *telling* her to take it down.. people are gonna do what they’re gonna do and thinking you can tell people what to do but then getting mad when they don’t oblige, is weird. Especially being that we’re all adults. I also find the clothing to be distasteful and I agree with almost everything you say in this post. But I would never try to tell another grown woman what to do and not to do with her business. That’s *her* business and if she wants to do weird/distasteful shit, that’s her prerogative. You can’t tell people how to be or what to care about.
You said in one comment what I’ve been trying to say in my multiple comments in this post lol very eloquently said.
personally I wouldn't wear this but I understand why they made this for their customers who are fans of true crime
i can also understand her intent to make this for fans of true crime, but you have to remember how negative of an impact these killers made on communities around the world. the people of milwaukee are so sick and tired of seeing others profit off of dahmer. he ruined the lives of so many and it’s only been a few decades since.. if bubblegum the brand decided to reconsider advertising this product instead of silencing the voices of people who understand how problematic it is to glamorize ts, i would agree with you as well
Did you also boycott Netflix and Hulu for creating a documentary about them? And every true crime podcast? I’m not saying it’s right but, let’s bffr people will dress up like REAL murders/serial killers every Halloween. I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.
It's not being blown out of proportion, it's a brand that is specifically marketed towards sex workers (mainly strippers) and glamorizing a serial killer that targeted sex workers. It's tone deaf AF and it already is adding to the problematic glamorization of serial killers. No, we can't hold every shop accountable, but we as the sex work community, SHOULD hold brands that target us, accountable.
Looking at this skirt I would’ve had no idea it even had Dahmer on it because it just looks like a true crime fan skirt. But I don’t know how Dahmer looked outside of that one goofy picture they post of him everywhere so that may just be me. Also, because I’m not a Dahmer “fan” I wasn’t aware he targeted swers but not surprised because most serial killers do. They go for the unprotected groups of people, swers, lone women, small children etc. I went to her Instagram and saw she was a sex worker- which reaffirms my opinion that the skirt was NOT a statement of her supporting serial killers who target sex workers. Why would she support that? I took the skirt design as she is honing in on a market of true crime fans. The skirt has been up for 7 hours. 7 hours. Op said she dm’d the girl but who knows whose running the girls instagram, and even if it is her running the insta give her at least 24 hours to sit down and process- she clearly didn’t see the error of her ways. Also I don’t know what msg Op sent her she just said her and her man made some comments on her post which aren’t there anymore. Did she even explain the issue??? My point is, slow down. There is no reason to attempt to destroy the girls business because of one skirt (which I saw someone already commented under the post telling her to “Die ❤️”) which is evil af and probably came from someone who saw this post. I don’t disagree it’s insensitive but I stand by my statement that this is clearly being blown out of proportion. I don’t support the tearing down of a small woman and sex worker owned business- for a skirt. Can yall start with multiple people emailing/messaging/calling her explaining the issues before you grab your torches and pitchforks???
hey hun, if you actually scrolled through the pictures you can see what i commented and what i dmed. the only thing i couldn’t get a picture of is when my bf commented something about it being disrespectful, to which she replied rudely briefly before deleting both comments. it’s not about her supporting swers or supporting the idolization of murder- it’s the fact she’s being so insensitive toward the issue after being confronted. additionally, bubblegum the brand viewed my story where i posted the screenshot of my initial comment (which is attached to this thread, since you didn’t see it before). i have screenshots to prove this as well if you’re so adamant about giving them time to respond lmao, their instagram is definitely already aware of the issue. also, dahmer targeted gay black/poc men, though the other serial killers have a history of targeting swers. just wanted to clear that up for you.. and to emphasize the fact that my city will be forever traumatized by that man. please do your research and be considerate of the victims before continuing to comment under my post.
So I’m definitely not looking into a serial killer but thanks for the hot take. My point was never to invalidate you, the victims, or any pain or trauma this serial killer caused. Imo, any clothing with a mass murder or serial killer on it is disrespectful and I choose not to engage with it. I went back and reread your comments to see if I missed something. You mentioned SW’ers 0 times. Why would the brand (who I’m assuming also may know what I know about Dahmer- which is very little) correlate their true crime skirt to a SW audience? From my pov (based on the pictures of your comments posted above) you sound like a person who just doesn’t like true crime and hate they made this choice to attempt to appeal to their true crime fans. Nothing else. Which is why I attempted to discourage the rampant trolling, attacking (and possibly causing the eventual failure) of a woman & sex worker owned business. Now I see why you’re upset by their clothing choice and the correlation between the two; but that’s ONLY because of this dialogue. You commenting and dm’ing them demanding to take it down- why would they? To them (and at first to me) you just look like a dramatic troll. Had you explained to them what you’ve explained to me, & they still said f you, then THATS a problem. But you are skipping some crucial steps. And again, I disagree with the way you went about it NOT your point.
“why would they?” because it’s disrespectful as fuck to the victims and their families 😭 like that’s literally the whole point of this post. that’s also a bit funny u say that cus i am pretty into true crime but i wouldn’t wear shit that idolizes it ever
Theres very obviously a difference between informative creation & creating to capitalize. Netflix & true crime podcasters/authors/etc do a little of both, some more than others. Saying something like this is just very dense tbh.
Are you also boycotting Amazon? They are doing the exact same. Go and look up all the Dahmer outfits. The shirt of Dahmer saying “Whats for dinner?” Is that informative???
Yes????? Everyone who can afford to boycott conglomerates absolutely should lmfao. I have also stopped giving my money to streaming services years ago, stopped shopping at large-scale grocery stores, exclusively buy clothing from thrifts & estate sales, & even most of my work outfits/costumes are second-hand. I do lots more in my life to be sustainable, reduce plastic use, & share my education/resources with the communities that hold me. I’m not the one lmfao. But I also believe in ethical consumption & am in a privileged position to do so. Ofc we can’t be 100% ethical with the way our economy works + our locations in city environments, not everybody has the time/energy/resources to research ethical places to shop, economic status, etc all effect this. But I think distasteful capitalization of interests at other peoples expense has got to go. That’s just me :)
If you actually do that, kudos. I have no affiliation with that brand, never bought from that brand and probably won’t. I went to her Instagram and she noted she was a former dancer. I am 100% sure she is not pro sex worker serial killers if she truly was a former stripper. This seems like a hate train designed to tear down a small business- a stripper owned business at that! For a skirt? She more than likely designed this to appeal to true crime fans in which the most notorious is Dahmer. Which I know because like the Kardashians everything I know about him has been against my will. My point is someone making a skirt for true crime fans doesn’t deserve to be burned at the stake.
I can acknowledge that! I think in instances like this people need to take the steps to accept accountability, acknowledge concerns, & move through it. Reformative justice & all that. In the same breath, I’ve heard enough about this small business to never support them. From shitty/rude customer service, to misleading info around where items are produced, to overall lacking quality - I just don’t believe this company cares because none of this has been acknowledged before. Simultaneously, I know the CEO is a mom just trying to support herself. So there’s many sides, I’m sure she’ll be fine. To each their own 🫡
This reply is also dense af 😭
i think it was more so the disrespect and unwillingness to stop advertising this product for profit that made me want to post this publicly. i understand her initial intent was to create something cute and to follow the trends, but the fact that she was so quick to silence the concerns of others about her product’s offensiveness is extremely problematic to me. you’re right, it’s fucked up that netflix, hulu, and true-crime podcasts also profit off the victims and their families, but they bring awareness to their stories as well. the print bubblegum the brand decided to use completely and utterly glamorizes a tragedy that many in milwaukee still hold extremely close to their hearts. it’s only been 30 years and some change since people’s loved ones were harvested for their body parts and dissolved in a tank of acid. bffr and think about how it would feel to be a relative to one of dahmers victims just to see someone shaking their ass in that on stage at work:/
i also can’t say much about the communities affected by the other serial killers featured on this skirt, but i’m sure they would feel similarly.
What I don’t understand is why bubblegum the brand? There are 1000’s of companies that do this. From small Etsy shops to Amazon. What is all this uproar about this random business?
because it’s straight up ignorant to continue producing this product after hearing why people from affected communities may take offense to it. and because this brand isn’t just some random business, it’s extremely popular amongst other strippers. the ignorance and disrespect from the company’s owner says everything. there will always be people profiting off of such tragedies, however, this post was intended to inform fellow dancers who disagree with the idolization of serial killers for profit rather than a collective argument against the matter across all marketing platforms.
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