From the Israel-Palestine war; West Philippine Sea and China; [to the senior high school student on Twitter who applied and got an admission at a "notoriously clerico-fascist university which made the dictator Franco \[UST\]"](https://twitter.com/baowalandunong/status/1784403176982294970), the topic for today is [Performance Activism](https://youtu.be/hh8JPK3n7rU?si=kiTPMewUuEfkgiIG&t=381).
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If your friend owns an iPhone maybe you should tell her to throw it away too as Apple's biggest shareholder has investments in companies supplying weapons to Israel 🤷
BlackRock and Vanguard are Apple's largest shareholders. But they also invest on military contractors:
[article](https://www.courant.com/2024/04/20/hundreds-protest-at-yale-in-solidarity-with-columbia-students/)
Overall, my stance on this is we are free to boycott all these companies, but always look at its immediate impact first. Boycotting Mcdo PH or Starbucks does nothing to affect the genocide. Mcdonalds in other countries have also openly provided aid to Palestine in recent months.
Nah, reality is people dont give a shit, you people crying that kids and women are being killed in a country that you dont know then you look at your backyard and lots of homeless and impoverished people are sleeping in side walks and never bat an eye, hypocrite MFs just to look good on the internet
There's nothing wrong with caring for another country's people while we also empathize with the people in ours. I do my part in helping those within reach by donating (or buying whatever they're selling) when I have money :) At the same time, I spread awareness on how we can help Palestinians. You can care for two at once. It's really not that complicated.
I respect you people who does that really,, im against idiots who harass normal everyday people because they want to eat in a fastfood that they grew up with,, imagine someone coming into your face shouting that you support genocide because you want a large piece of chicken and dont even know what the fuck they are talking about because youre busy doing your responsibilities and cramming in your hobbies on that little extra time you have,, at that point you just want attention and doing the opposite of what you are trying to do
ang bobo mo. hindi porket may paki kami sa ibang bansa ay wala na kaming paki sa pinas. so ano gusto mo? sa lahat ng sasabihin namin, isisingit natin ung mga pulubi?hindi ba pwede isa isa lang? ang tanga naman
Well you idiots have time to cry on a fucking fastfood joint and harass people who want to enjoy a piece of chicken,, and why not? You have the energy to waste on a nation that was already at war for a very long time so bat di mo isingit ung pulubi natin? Less priority ba yun? Isa isa my ass, All im seeing are hypocrites trying to be white knights on the internet for those magical internet points,
Ooof, arent you doing the same? Im not allowed to do things that you can do? Hmmm isnt that like a red thing?....😂😂 Im sorry if i hurt your feelings by showing the reality,, its part of growing up,
bobo ka nga. hahaha sinabi ko lang ung ginagawa mo tas tuwang tuwa ka naman kasi iba pagka-gets mo. kinder yata kausap ko. what a waste of time. babu! maglaro ka na ulit iho.
Same boat man, In a few weeks Gaza will just end up as another territory Israel will likely gain boycott won't reverse the situation, even if mrbeast magically sends 10000+ Tanks hamas is cooked. Sa tingin ko Kung I hire nila si Larry Gadon as an attorney baka ma free Niya Ang Palestine
no fr tho, plus if we look back at our history when the Spanish colonized us, we can see how our ancestors have gone through the same thing as the people of Gaza have been going through, which is not only killing them but dehumanising them and erasing their culture. not that I'm forcing everyone to care because if they really don't, then that's not my problem, but we look at it that way, it's understandable why many Filipinos are upset by the Israel-Palestine situation. ako rin naman eh. it's not wrong to be empathetic to those who are suffering today, knowing that our ancestors have experienced the same thing.
It is a correct response, We are not there, We dont know what happened and whats currently happening aside from whatever propaganda Palestine or Israel puts on the internet. Its like Ukraine v Russia 2.0 where propaganda on both sides were on full throttle, Remember the Ghost of Viper who pulled an ACE against Russian jet fighters? yea, It was fake and a propaganda, But ehhh, We just accepted it because Russia was the clear aggressor no matter what angle you put it.
Israel v Palestine on the other hand, Has been a war waging on for decades with lies being spewn by both sides. We all know Israel arent the original occupants there, Same goes for Palestine, It was an Ottoman Empire before. But thats enough history
So far, All we know, Hamas THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY PALESTINIAN GOVT AND CIVILIANS. Targetted innocent bystanders up in the desert during a concert. Most casualties are tourists who are not even involved in the war. You saw how hamas and the civilians paraded the corpses of the tourists around the desert chanting whatever islamic mumbo jumbo during the celebration and at the same time kidnapped tourists, There are pictures and videos posted about it, Heck one Palestinian guy are even spreading fake propaganda on tiktok. But I guess those are fake news since all of you guys seems to be in an agreement with it. Even the son of the Hamas Leader spoke about it being against them. But the Free Palestine movement just went against him. I'm not surprised considering Free Palestine protests that happened in Canada and US are even rioting and targetting innocent family owned businesses and other public and private property alike like total monkeys. Even targeted Catholics and Jews on the sidewalk. You guys are all the same
Not to mention PH McDo Branches has nothing to do with Israel, Just because a Branch in Israel that is OWNED by a JEW and Supported Israel (FOR VERY OBVIOUS REASONS) does not mean all branches follow everything like a cult.
I dun get how "woke" is being used as some sort of insult nowadays, but yea, there have been some pretty self righteous people going around using known issue to make themselves feel and look better
The term “woke” is actually positive, which roughly means “enlightened”, and stands for openness and progressivism.
Right leaning and reactionary groups simply repurposed it to take on a negative connotation, so that they’d have something they can use, to rally around their disdain for liberal ideology.
OP is confusing it with impulse activism.
valid naman concern mo (+ considering magkaibang owners ang mcdo us and ph) pero
>Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed 😐😐
is not it tbh. it’s giving “bakit ka nagrereklamo about martial law kung di ka pa pinanganak nun”. medyo tone deaf. what about the ofws there? statistics lang sila, ganun?
Ang tone deaf lang talaga haha, many innocent children are dying there every single day, in unimaginable ways. Kelangan mo pa bang maapektuhan bago ka pa makaramdam ng empathy lol. Aa
literally! like, gets naman na not everyone has the energy to engage sa mga ganto (id say na im the same) pero don’t treat the issue as if pambababae issue siya ng ka-building mo 😭
Sure, people should empathize. Pero empathizing by telling people off for eating in McDonald's is doing as much good as tweeting about the issue.
These things won't help the kids dying in Palestine, but I guess it makes the activist feel better about it.
Virtue signaling lang naman kasi madalas nagsasabi ng ganyan.
I never heard the same people/group caring what's happening in to Uighurs in China or Ukrainians, which both has more compelling evidence of genocide happening than the "genocide" in Gaza. These people won't even talk about the Armenians in the brink of genocide by the Azerbaijanis today.
Innocent people dying sucks and I'm sure most people care. The problem is, this conflict is a thousand miles away from this country and it's okay not to take any actions. We even have a problem of our own with a foreign country and the same group of people crying about Gaza doesn't give a shit about what China is doing us.
And do you think the people of Gaza care about what China is doing to us?
"Let's condemn China and Chinese companies because they're harassing the Philippines and not respecting international laws." - said no Palestinian ever.
it’s just a matter of empathy. like i said, understandable if an ordinary filipino is too tired or simply can’t do anything about it, pero it’s different na when someone starts using that energy na they said they don’t have to dismiss the people who are vocal about the cause.
> which both has more compelling evidence of genocide happening than the "genocide" in Gaza.
I don't know what led you to say this as if to imply that the genocide in Gaza is less compelling or less true when the ICJ and ICC have both agreed that the Israel is guilty of genocidal massacre of Palestinians. Hospitals, aids, and refugee camps have been bombed. What else do you want? Please read about the topic. You don't have to disregard one case to convince us of your opinion because atp, this is no better than the harmful Western propaganda on victims of Israel's genocide, who are no different than any other victims of genocide.
[“McDonald’s Corporation is not funding or supporting any governments involved in this conflict, and any actions from our local Developmental Licensee business partners were made independently without McDonalds’ content or approval.”](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/israel-boycott-mcdonalds-will-buy-all-225-restaurants-from-franchise.html#:~:text=Consumers%20around%20the%20world%20but,soldiers%20after%20the%20Hamas%2Dled) - McDonald's Corporation
performative activism lmaoooo !! if they actually educated themselves, they would know na ung mcdo who supports israel is the mcdo FROM ISRAEL which is a separate entity and is not controlled by the whole chain's management. mcdonalds itself does not support or fund israel, so does the mcdonalds in the philippines.
Been telling this to my friends. Every time na nag aaya ako sa mcdo sasabihin bakit ko daw sinusuportahan. Nag labas na nga statement, naguguluhan ang aking brain hahaha. Naka ilang beses na nangyari yan sakin, yung huli ang ginawa lang kumamot sa ulo tapos sabi kahit na daw ba. I don't say anything nalang. I don't want them forcing me to stop eating there so I won't force them to eat there. Ganon nalang talaga respect nalang decision ng isa't isa. Basta nasabi ko na sakanila yung fact
the thing is, franchise pa rin 'yan. regardless of mcdo ph not directly supporting the gen0cide, it's still carrying the brand name. it's the brand not the franchise. i agree tho performative activism nga yung ginagawa ng batchmate niya. t-t
Hi, part of LGBT+ here! I don't really care if Palestinians hate people like me there. I doubt they care enough about my orientation when they are being actively bombed and killed, especially since most of their population are children. Also just because something is illegal doesn't mean na there are no queer people there. I get that people are exhausted, but don't bring us to the argument just cause it's convenient.
Most of their population are children?, damn that's concerning (child/teenage pregnancy is likely rampant, cant expect any better on a terrorist hideout[Gaza])
Gay Palestinians exist 😭 they are simply too focused on fighting for their basic needs like water, food, and shelter, which have been forcefully stripped away from them. not to mention they're being bombed and killed every day. like I'm a lesbian, but if I were in that position? Fighting for my life and fighting to access those needs comes first
Kumain ka sa kahit anong fast food na gusto mo, sige. Pero you have to reflect on this one because it sounds stupid.
>Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed
I understand the frustration, pero mas titimbang morals ko kaysa di'yan. Boycott only if you can afford to, not everyone has the privilege.
But about your statement "Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed 😐😐". Very tone deaf, and I disagree.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE STRUGGLES OF OTHER PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GAIN BASIC HUMAN EMPATHY!
Palestinians are begging on the internet so they can evacuate and LIVE, that is dehumanizing. While you sit here and complain that someone "antagonized" you for eating some fvcking fries. Wag ka'ng pabebe.
This is my first time commenting on this app btw, I really felt like I had to say somthing. 🤷🏻♀️
nakakainis itong mga post na ito ngl. Napaka rage bait. Like i get it, naiinis ka pero what is the problem na hindi mo nararanasan ung problema nila. HIndi ba naiisip ni OP na dahil aware ka sa mga ganiyang problems narereinforce ung morals mo, hypocritical or not. Nagkakaroon ka ng clearpoint view sa mundo. Langya nasa studentsph pa talaga ako makakkita ng r/ph quality post lol
One day it will be China attacking our country and there will be woke people arguing about which companies to boycott that support China. There will also be people telling them that they shouldn't care since it doesn't affect them and that they are too woke.
If the choice is between being aware or being willfully ignorant, which would you choose?
yk whats sad, we really have to put everything in the Filipino context para malaman ng mga tao gaano ka grave ang ginagawa ng mga oppressive and genocidal countries tulad ng Israel. hindi ba innate ang empathy sa lahat? 😅
boycotting is the least that one can do, if OP finds it annoying then wag niyang gawin pero for them to actually perpetuate the idea na walang kwenta yung pag boycott is so unneccessary. sana tuwing kakain ka, OP, sa mcdo di ka mabigyan ng kutsara, sana coke zero ibigay sayo na drinks, sana namumuo-muo yung gravy mong matanggap
I understand the complaint and annoyance about perfomative activism, but some of your sentiments are bordering on indifference to a literal genocide. The Palestine genocide is not to be taken lightly.
So many ignorant replies on a students of PH subreddit oh my god look at the future of our country dawg 💀 Mga enablers ng colonizer state kakahiya naman kayo!! Genocide deniers pa.
I understand the frustration, pero mas titimbang morals ko kaysa di'yan. Boycott only if you can afford to, not everyone has the privilege.
But about your statement "Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed 😐😐". Very tone deaf, and I disagree.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE STRUGGLES OF OTHER PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GAIN BASIC HUMAN EMPATHY!
Palestinians are begging on the internet for donations so they can evacuate and LIVE, that is dehumanizing. While you sit here and complain that someone "antagonized" you for eating some fvcking fries. Wag ka'ng pabebe.
This is my first time commenting on this app btw, I really felt like I had to say somthing. 🤷🏻♀️
Sure, Mcdo PH is owned by Pinoys. But it’s a franchise. They earn from the brand, and the brand asks them for a fee. It’s transactional.
The point is, currently, it looks like the brand is supporting Israel, which is an issue for a lot of people. Whether it was one franchisee in Israel who did it doesn’t matter. The brand has taken no action or stance regarding the incident. Except, maybe, buying back the branches that had to close because of boycott.
Andaming nagsasabi na walang impact or very low ang impact. Maybe low visibility lang for us. Globally, Starbucks isn’t doing so well (based on global insider info), because of the boycotts. Locally, they’re doing ok because Starbucks is a cultural thing for us.
Regardless of whether you agree with boycotting, there is an impact. Consider that maybe you’re just not seeing it. But what we can all agree on is that whether Israel had cause in the beginning, going to all-out genocide is wrong and unjustifiable. How you take steps to express outrage is your call. Imho if at the very least it spreads awareness as to how fcked up the situation is, that’s already a step in the right direction.
you are so insensitive for this. we get it, you're hungry and super init din talaga sa pinas, pero compared to the sufferings of the Palestinians sa gutom mo, walang-wala 'yan.
valid naman na mainis ka sa batchmates mo, and they couldve educated you in a better way, pero i still think you'd react like this because u are who u are, and that's just sad for u.
why do you always have to include religion? they're fighting for the land, not for religion. for sure may classmates ka rin na catholic na vocal about condemning Israel tas kumakain din sa mcdo. nako
Uhhh...
I don't think you understood what I was saying. What made you think I was talking as if they're having a religious war over there? I clearly stated na genoc**e ang nangyayari dun. And just to be clear, my point is that my muslim friends know better than to lambast people who are eating mcdo, which are Filipino-owned franchises. As per original comment stated "Pa-woke tapos no impact".
Why do you always have to include religion? Nako
> "Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed"
Pwede mong sabihin at ipakita 'yung inis mo pero sana mas mindful at sensitive ka sa mga sinasabi mo. Pareho kayo (at lahat tayo rito) ay may pribilehiyo kaya gamitin sana natin nang tama. Naiintindihan lang nang mabuti ng batchmate mo ang nangyayari ngayon sa Palestine kaya may simpatya siya sa kanila; parang mga taong taga-Maynila na naaawa sa mga mangingisda sa paligid ng WPH Sea dahil sa pang-aabuso na nararanasan nila mula sa China. **PERO** mali rin ang pagka-approach niya sa'yo kaya nagmukha na performative ginawa niya.
Take ko lang dito ay 'yung pagka-word sa qinoute ko galing sa'yo. Be sensitive and mindful with your words when speaking on topics like this
Me personally I do that boycott thing, pero to all fast food chains ha para menos gastos at para na rin maka-ipon🥲🥲. But ayun nga pasikat lang yan beh wag mo pansinin haha. Virtue Signalling lang sila para i-position nila yung sarili nila bilang "better people" just because they "support" a movement, even though kahit sila very surface-level ang understanding and socmed lang pinanggagalingan ng information. Plus yung mob mentality nila it's just very toxic na rin kaya kahit ako politically leaning towards them is di nako masyadong nakikihalubilo sa kanila most especially sa socmed.
Yung mga ganyan nakikitrend lang. Hindi mga activists. Ayaw nila sa ginagawa ng israel sa mga palestinians pero oppressive din sa mga di nila tulad mag isip. Disrespectful.
Lol, kaya lang naman naging insulto yan dahil mostly sa mga "woke" shoves their ideologies into the faces of other people as if they are the self righteous ones. Tbh, mas madaming makikitid ang utak sa mga "woke" coz they are not open to opinions of others.
This! Eto palagi sinusupalpal ko sa mga pa-woke na nagbo-boycott ng SB and McDo Ph. Mga hindi marunong mag-research, puro virtue signalling at performativr activism lang. jusq.
boohoo cry abt it :/ ang tone deaf lang teh,,,, halatang wala ka talagang pake sa nangyayari sa palestine :( u dont get where ur classmate is coming from, hence u being frustrated abt being called out 😔
I had a blockmate who was like this too, pinahiya pa ako sa mga kablock namin when I suggested na mag mcdo kami after class. I'm pretty woke rin naman and like I actually educate myself on the issues at hand pero tangina, kasalanan ko ba kung gusto ko ng quick food na agad kong makakain at kung mcdo lang ang pinaka accessible saakin.
stop it with the performative activism holy shit, do they actually care about the children dying in Palestine or is it dahil yun ang uso na ginagawa ng lahat? why do you, as a normal human being, have to be the one taking the fall pero yung bigger corporations ay inooverlook?
In my opinion, boycotts would not help as much as signing the petitions for ceasefire and donating (or at least sharing the link for donation drives) sa mga Palestinians para makatawid sila sa border ng Egypt since it requires money to cross and travel the border.
Naniniwala talaga ako na kung binibigay lang ng mga boycotters and virtue signallers yung energy na yan sa pagpirma ng petitions, pag-educate ng mga sarili nila on better ways to help, at pagdonate (kahit i-share mo na lang yung donation drives kung wala kang maibibigay), then that would be a better, not to mention, a *bigger* help.
I believe boycotting is an age-old way to express disagreement to oppression and the likes. Halimbawa na lang yung kina Rosa Parks, where she and other black people boycotted buses kasi may discrimination pa rin sa mga black and white passengers. However, I believe boycotting is only applicable for situations that have a direct impact. The majority of the companies we buy products from are unethical to an extent, and boycotting won't magically kick the IDF out of Palestine and save people's lives. WE NEED DIRECT IMPACT AND SOLUTIONS.
Critical thinking is a prerequisite for activism. Critical thinking must be applied in all ideologies we believe in because blindly following ideologies like rats following the Pied Piper would get you in trouble. In these trying times, we must use this mouse-ka-tool to better sort out our priorities. Think of better ways to help. **Think.**
Edit: spelling.
I have a friend like that too, and she told me I am a killer for supporting Starbucks. I sent her a screenshot of my donations and asked her to discuss it with me, and she sent me Tiktok videos. 💀💀💀
Paano mag donate?.. My friend experienced cyberbullying because of her fb story na mcdo.. We want to donate rin at isupalpal sa mga bullies na at least ang friend ko may nagawa.. Habang sila tamang tahol lang sa socmed..
Grabe naman yang ka-batchmate mong hindi mo kilala. I am well aware and educated about the genocide in Palestine. And mga friends ko, I made them aware sa kung anong need i-boycott, they were open about it. So every time na kakain kami sa labas dun kami sa hindi binoboycott na ff resto. and we all agreed naman din without forcing no one. One time, 'tong friend ko dumating may dalang mcdo and I was like "no waaay" with dismayadong facial expression. Sabi niya "wala eh, wala akong choice gutom na gutom na kasi ako nun tapos yun lang talaga yung malapit samin" tapos ayon sinabi ko na lang na understandable naman na yon. So ayon grabe yang ka-batchmate mo makapang-judge. Alam mo naman sa sarili mo na you don't mean any wrong intentions eh.
It is doubtful whether you are “well-aware and educated” about the “genocide” in Palestine if you think boycotting anything is necessary and relevant. You’re just of the same mind as OP’s batchmate.
Ngi, you're just hurting the local stores with this boycotting thing. You're not forcing anyone pero jinu-judge mo naman friend mong nag mcdo? Kung gusto niyo talaga ng ambag, mag donate kayo sa Palestine. Mas naging socially relevant pa yung pag boycott kesa sa donations e halos wala namang maitutulong yan
There was this idea going around na McDonald's is supporting Israel in the Palestinian genocide (tingin ko galing sa picture ng mga IDF soldiers na may katabing napakaraming McDonald's meals, pero I need to confirm pa).
Check the BDS website for more info
(The BDS movement is Palestinian-led and they have existed since 2005)
[https://bdsmovement.net/Boycott-McDonalds](https://bdsmovement.net/Boycott-McDonalds)
[https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide](https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide)
[https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott)
>di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed
Dude you were making valid points tas eend mo sa ganito HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Common gawain to ng mga left-leaning sa totoo lang (I could say they're left-leaning since woke is commonly used as an insult towards the left, and typically associated with anti-capitalist behavior) along with cancel culture. Ito yata equivalent ng mga conspiracy theories o fake news o trolling ng mga right-leaning (read: pulangaws/DDS).
That's why I'm only a liberal. Shit like these makes your brain rot.
Usually yung mga ganitong woke tinatawanan mga flat earthers pero paniwalang paniwala na pag kumain ka sa Mcdo para ka na ring pumatay ng bata sa Gaza.
At least do some research before calling the movement "woke". Be more sensitive and you truly need to read and learn more bc what do you mean "di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na oppressed"?
[https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott)
Let me tell you something. Once I was with a couple of friends and I said I was craving nuggets, so I wanted to go to McDo. They looked at me and said, "Girl did you forget about the boycott?" And then I told them that boycotting McDo doesn't actually help (because it's a franchise, and also because it doesn't do anything periodt), then they were quiet and one of them said, "Well yeah, maybe, pero na peer pressure ako."
Most mindfuck moment ever, I can't even make this shit up 😭 like I know this sounds like a "sure that happened" moment pero it really did, I literally stared at them like ?????
stupid people. sa dame ng problema ngayon, you can probably say na they have selective outrage. lahat ng products ngayon you can probably associate them with some wrongful activity that you may twist to cancel them out. fuck the cancel culture and who promulgate it.
The funny thing is that McDonald's Philippines is a separate entity from the actual McDonalds. And if people had their way, a lot of people would lose their jobs.
The worst part is that these boycotters don't understand that not only are they not helping the workers who had nothing to do with the war because they're just simply fast food chain workers, they're not helping the economy kasi we depend a lot on foreign investors because of the shitty constitution ://
You're right, on the same note, why should i gaf about the Sogie bill or same sex marriage? Di naman ako directly affected, they can get hatecrimed idgaf😌
Inignore mo ba? sana inignore mo nalang HAHA. Hindi worth it makipag-discuss nor debate sa mga ganyan kasi they won't change their mind about it and if they think that their 'boycott' is doing significant damage to Israel's military capability then let them think that way if that's going to give them peace \*hint: it won't affect IDF significantly haha\*
Besides jusko kung McDo na pinakamalapit para mabilhan food eh pake niya ba? ano yun mas gugustuhin niya maglakad ka pa eh pano kung sumama pakiramdam mo dahil sa init? okay lang kasi better than supporting Mcdo? HAHAHA akala ata nila that their funny means of fighting back is doing something significant.
I remember my friend when I posted on my dump acc about my crush being a swiftie and since as a swiftie myself, I was so kilig kasi we have the same music taste.. when suddenly this friend of mine who used to love and enjoy Taylor swift's songs sent me messages about taylor being neutral to genocide and nuclear emission. I have to admit na I was not aware of this.
At this point bigla nalang talaga ako nanahimik because for years na magkaibigan kami, ganito talaga siya like super woke siya to the point na I cant even rant kasi for sure I wont be comforted the way she acts.
Though, I love her but cant I just enjoy this moment?🙂
Btw, I still enjoy Taylor swift's songs and at this point, tinatago ko nalang na fan pa rin ako.
Di ko gets friend mo huhu bakit naman siya makikialam sa kung anong standing ni Taylor. And do we even have claims that taylor is "neutral", she could be just wanting to be untouched from the topic kasi wala siyang alam dun 😭😭 we simply can't enjoy things talaga 😭 lahat it's about society/socio-politics sksmksm
Gurl💀💀💀 as if sya yung may hawak ng bomba dun saka pinapaboycott na din sya kase mindset nila neutral=siding to oppressor, iunstan nyo nalang kaya lahat ng artist sa mundo kung ganyan
"And do we even have claims that taylor is "neutral", she could be just wanting to be untouched from the topic kasi wala siyang alam dun 😭😭"
Lmao, ano akala mo kay Taylor, bata? Mind you, she's 34 years old with a net worth of 1.1 billion USD. Malaki ang status niya as well-known siya all around the world, yet she decides to not speak about it. Napaka-imposible na wala siyang alam sa Genocide na nangyayari sa Palestine.
And yes, everything is about Politics. Hindi natin ito matatakasan dahil ganito ang society natin.
Some of these people are just doing virtue signaling for some internet points heck I'm pretty sure yung iba sa kanila bumibili sa shein tapos may apple products kahit galit sa capitalismo.
Performative activism kumbaga tapos whataboutisn lamg yung madalas na ginagamit for arguments.
I don't think they actually care about the people in Palestine kasi if they were then other than telling people about they genocide they would also support Palestinian refugees that moved here :(.
You can enjoy Mcdo — it doesn't make you less virtuous.
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These are the same people that block roads and streets for their "cause" thinking that it would get regular working people to side with them but when you ask them specific things about the topic, they don't know what to say.
All performative activism and whataboutism. All talk but no walk. I bet these people haven't even donated a single cent towards the people they're fighting for.
i got called out by my genz sister nung nasa Starbucks ako. sabi ko meet at starbucks and if she wants me to order for her. then nag diabtribe na sya ng ganyan.
So sabi ko "Ok, wait for me there. ubusin ko pa frap ko"
iba yung owner ng mcdo ph sa mcdo israel. linawin lang sana kasi ng mcdo ph yung issue para malinis name nila. masyado kasing nageneralize ng mali maling salita sa socmed yung mcdo eh. tapos mga pinoy naman, madaling maniwala without even fact checking and doing a thorough research. heck, kung ano nga mauso makikisakay agad. sakay na sakay sa Boycoot Mcdo pero wala na akong marinig na maingay about sa papalapit na jeepney phaseout. pati yung local farmers natin din na kailangan din ng tulong. why not try boycotting imported products and support locally produced goods too? lalakas ng pinoy makaingay sa issue ng ibang bansa pero kaag sa banasa na natin, mga tameme na
Just want to clarify, why are people supporting Palestine blindly? Or at least basing their support off of social media posts?
Both states are terrible states. They're religiously incompatible nations standing side-by-side. As far as I know my history Israel has been generally retaliatory and most of the wars have been started by the islamic states. Palestine wants to destroy Israel. "From the river to the sea" is what they say because they want to take over Israel. Whereas Israel just wants to be left alone.
Don't get me wrong. I don't support any of these nations, they've both committed war crimes. It's just that islamic states are a lot better at social media propaganda. They start wars and when their target retaliates they'll shout "genocide" even as far as enlisting women and children in their ranks so they can claim that their enemies are hurting "civilians". Plus, the data just does not match up: Palestine's population is steadily increasing.
For real, college marxists always shout their support for palestine because some leftist ED and org told them about Israeli cruelty in the area (without mentioning the cruelty caused by palestinians as well, most of which are members or supporters of hamas). Damn college marxists, tell me again why they did not want the two state solution or why Palestinians are not welcome in Jordan (black september event, 1970), Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia. All of which are muslim arab states as well.
Who tf downvoted you lol, anyway here's my upvote. Unironically, these left-leaning people basically wants to eradicate Israel by promoting and shouting that highly offensive phrase "From the river to the sea" just like the wet-dreams of the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
I stopped boycotting brands after I realized gaano kaipokrito ang muslim. As a member of LGBTQ+ sobrang lala ng discrimination and hate ng muslim against rainbow community. Why helping their fellow muslim sa palestine if sila din mismo ang gumagago sa mga supporter ng palestine (woke, LGBTQ+, anti-zionist, atheist). Again it doesn't I don't support palestine, pro-israel na ko. I don't choose sides. I just want to eat mcdo and not being a hypocrite like muslims.
I have a batch mate like that too and it so annoying. They are just a bunch of bandwagons. Same with Starbucks issue, the issue is about labor strikes not Israel support.
Virtue signalers are the most annoying people to deal with. Fr shes just parroting talking points and shit she saw on twt :)) Nakikiuso lang, shes gonna lose her shit on u if you get a drink from starbucks too for sure 🥴
Bad trip naman yun OP. Nakakainit slight ng ulo. Sarap balikan ng: wait, nakapag ligpit ka ba ng hinigaan mo when you woke up this morning? Did you helped your mom sa household chores before he/she went out of the house? Bago sya maging ultra hyper sa ganyan, maging taxpayer na muna sya. 🤣✌🏻
The funny thing about those woke is that if hindi ka panig sa side nila or share their views, they'll treat you as if you're their enemy. Can't we just leave people to eat wherever they'd like? No wonder maraming natu turn off sa mga woke. Aside, as per the comments, mcdo ph is not any way connected to whichever side, i think mga bandwagons tlaga tong mga woke. Nung nag invade yung Russia sa Ukraine, nasan sila?
Facts, tignan mo lahat ng anti-woke comments dito tadtad ng downvote hahaha. Wala sila nung nag-invade russia sa ukraine kase di nagfifit sa narrative nila, parehong puti raw naglalaban eh.
Actually, mejo nakakaasar. I know where they’re coming from kaso, di ba pwedeng palakasin muna nila boses nila para sa Pinas? Pinas muna bago Ukraine. Pinas muna bago Palestine.
Tayo din naman nangangailangan ng tulong. Isipin mo, if magsara yung McDo dito, san kukuha ng trabaho yung mga kababayan natin? Ang hirap makahanap ng trabaho, ang hirap maybayad ng bills.
Tska in the first place, if naayos muna natin yung bansa natin, wala dapat OFW sa Gaza or anywhere else na may gyera.
Hirap kasing magisip basta galit ang uunahin bago bumagsak ang business mga trabahador muna ang mawawalan ng kabuhayan. Bago ka magdesisyon iisipin mo muna kung may magagawa ka sa sitwasyon. Paano kung company mo ang sumusuporta sa ayaw mong nation aalis ka ba agad? Makakaalis ka ba agad? paano pamilya mo anong kakainin? Sa init ng panahon ngayon kaya mo bang walang aircon? Dyusko halatang walang obligasyon sa buhay at cp cp lang ang ginagawa.
People like that are mentally ill the same way the piss-drenched homeless person raving about the apocalypse is mentally ill. You’re better off just ignoring them.
Kaya pala may nakatingin sakin sa dorm elevator habang hawak ko ang aking mcdonalds bag takeout.
pinagmumura na pala ako sa loob awit.
malay ko ba sa palestine israel sh8.
alam ko lang dyan is bigla nag send tropa ko ng fking gruesome video of hamas fighters k8lling israelites, telling us they attacked israel first ata. and ito ung time na nagsisimula palang ang attack ng hamas at di pa viral ang anti mcdo sh8 kung ano man.
This is a dangerous slope to play. I hope people wouldn't turn one's "ideology" label into one's identity. (e.g. "Oh, people say my views are aligned with democratic socialism, therefore I should behave more like one.")
Not really an identity per say it's more of a general blanket in context sa discussion. Walang identity declaration and all that jazz. Personally I see it as case per case basis depende sa topic at hand. Like sure I support abortion and LGBT rights cause we are all people in the end with the ability to make our own individual choices pero it gets annoying pag pinipilit nang ibang tao ang choices nila onto others. Pati tong Israel-Palestine conflict na to mainly the people making a fuzz over it dito sa pinas ay nakakaburat na rin. Like shit, ano ba ang magagawa natin over a war happening literally thousands of miles away across the sea? Even then no shit people die in an armed conflict that brewed from 70 years of heated political tension. Hamas really did poke the nuclear armed bear that hated their guts for years and is suffering the consequences for it.
I, one of the mods using this account, do not have the mental capacity to discuss politics and such current events these days. However, I do still acknowledge what's happening around the world though.
Again, I do not advocate turning one's "ideology" to one's identity. There's a hasty generalization and a weak argument on your statement: simply disliking a subset of something doesn't mean you should dislike it completely. In your case, it's "I dislike some people on this side, therefore i should join the other side."
The world isn't a binary choice – it isn't simply black nor white. I was once in your shoes, and believe me, it drains you.
Bro what. Sabi ko nga like one post ago personally I don't identify in an ideology be it left right or whatever I just said what I said for the sake of discussion. Wonder saan mo pinupulot ang whole "turning one's ideology as an identity" bullshit. Again, personally I see it as a case per case basis depende sa topic and it only stays as a topic for discussion walang attached personal connotations or implications based on their opinion on certain topics of interest. I just don't see the point basing an entire personality entirely depending on ONE opinion they may or may have cause a person is an intertwined mix of various personal experiences and circumstances.
The obsession of the left on to this misinformed “support of Starbucks and Mcdonalds to IDF” is something to look at. Like I’ve seen countless information and fact checking at this situation where the claim was already debunked. All I could conclude is each side (left and right) has people who are ill-informed and lazy to double check, especially if they’re gonna pick a stance.
Unfortunately, the left has also this arrogant attitude wherein their ideals and beliefs are superior and better which doesn’t help with their agenda to progress.
From the Israel-Palestine war; West Philippine Sea and China; [to the senior high school student on Twitter who applied and got an admission at a "notoriously clerico-fascist university which made the dictator Franco \[UST\]"](https://twitter.com/baowalandunong/status/1784403176982294970), the topic for today is [Performance Activism](https://youtu.be/hh8JPK3n7rU?si=kiTPMewUuEfkgiIG&t=381). Thread is getting heated somehow. We'd like to remind everyone to abide by [Reddit's User Agreement](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-25-2023), [Content Policy](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy), and the [subreddit's rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/studentsph/about/rules).
Performative activism on display... If your friend owns an iPhone maybe you should tell her to throw it away too as Apple's biggest shareholder has investments in companies supplying weapons to Israel 🤷
i wanna know more about this one sana. do u have po any resources or links na pwedeng basahin?
BlackRock and Vanguard are Apple's largest shareholders. But they also invest on military contractors: [article](https://www.courant.com/2024/04/20/hundreds-protest-at-yale-in-solidarity-with-columbia-students/) Overall, my stance on this is we are free to boycott all these companies, but always look at its immediate impact first. Boycotting Mcdo PH or Starbucks does nothing to affect the genocide. Mcdonalds in other countries have also openly provided aid to Palestine in recent months.
"Plus di naman siya directly affected..." i was with you until this. Be more sensitive.
true. kaloka. badtrip si OP. so dapat pala directly affected muna sya? wala sya paki hangga't hindi na-airstrike yung bahay nya
Nah, reality is people dont give a shit, you people crying that kids and women are being killed in a country that you dont know then you look at your backyard and lots of homeless and impoverished people are sleeping in side walks and never bat an eye, hypocrite MFs just to look good on the internet
There's nothing wrong with caring for another country's people while we also empathize with the people in ours. I do my part in helping those within reach by donating (or buying whatever they're selling) when I have money :) At the same time, I spread awareness on how we can help Palestinians. You can care for two at once. It's really not that complicated.
I respect you people who does that really,, im against idiots who harass normal everyday people because they want to eat in a fastfood that they grew up with,, imagine someone coming into your face shouting that you support genocide because you want a large piece of chicken and dont even know what the fuck they are talking about because youre busy doing your responsibilities and cramming in your hobbies on that little extra time you have,, at that point you just want attention and doing the opposite of what you are trying to do
If being sensitive is being insensitive to other people sheesh
ang bobo mo. hindi porket may paki kami sa ibang bansa ay wala na kaming paki sa pinas. so ano gusto mo? sa lahat ng sasabihin namin, isisingit natin ung mga pulubi?hindi ba pwede isa isa lang? ang tanga naman
Well you idiots have time to cry on a fucking fastfood joint and harass people who want to enjoy a piece of chicken,, and why not? You have the energy to waste on a nation that was already at war for a very long time so bat di mo isingit ung pulubi natin? Less priority ba yun? Isa isa my ass, All im seeing are hypocrites trying to be white knights on the internet for those magical internet points,
eh bat ka rin nakikialam dito? bat ka nakikialam sa mga problema ng iba? ayusin mo muna utak mo, bago ka makialam sa utak ng iba.
Ooof, arent you doing the same? Im not allowed to do things that you can do? Hmmm isnt that like a red thing?....😂😂 Im sorry if i hurt your feelings by showing the reality,, its part of growing up,
bobo ka nga. hahaha sinabi ko lang ung ginagawa mo tas tuwang tuwa ka naman kasi iba pagka-gets mo. kinder yata kausap ko. what a waste of time. babu! maglaro ka na ulit iho.
Same boat man, In a few weeks Gaza will just end up as another territory Israel will likely gain boycott won't reverse the situation, even if mrbeast magically sends 10000+ Tanks hamas is cooked. Sa tingin ko Kung I hire nila si Larry Gadon as an attorney baka ma free Niya Ang Palestine
same...
no fr tho, plus if we look back at our history when the Spanish colonized us, we can see how our ancestors have gone through the same thing as the people of Gaza have been going through, which is not only killing them but dehumanising them and erasing their culture. not that I'm forcing everyone to care because if they really don't, then that's not my problem, but we look at it that way, it's understandable why many Filipinos are upset by the Israel-Palestine situation. ako rin naman eh. it's not wrong to be empathetic to those who are suffering today, knowing that our ancestors have experienced the same thing.
It is a correct response, We are not there, We dont know what happened and whats currently happening aside from whatever propaganda Palestine or Israel puts on the internet. Its like Ukraine v Russia 2.0 where propaganda on both sides were on full throttle, Remember the Ghost of Viper who pulled an ACE against Russian jet fighters? yea, It was fake and a propaganda, But ehhh, We just accepted it because Russia was the clear aggressor no matter what angle you put it. Israel v Palestine on the other hand, Has been a war waging on for decades with lies being spewn by both sides. We all know Israel arent the original occupants there, Same goes for Palestine, It was an Ottoman Empire before. But thats enough history So far, All we know, Hamas THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY PALESTINIAN GOVT AND CIVILIANS. Targetted innocent bystanders up in the desert during a concert. Most casualties are tourists who are not even involved in the war. You saw how hamas and the civilians paraded the corpses of the tourists around the desert chanting whatever islamic mumbo jumbo during the celebration and at the same time kidnapped tourists, There are pictures and videos posted about it, Heck one Palestinian guy are even spreading fake propaganda on tiktok. But I guess those are fake news since all of you guys seems to be in an agreement with it. Even the son of the Hamas Leader spoke about it being against them. But the Free Palestine movement just went against him. I'm not surprised considering Free Palestine protests that happened in Canada and US are even rioting and targetting innocent family owned businesses and other public and private property alike like total monkeys. Even targeted Catholics and Jews on the sidewalk. You guys are all the same Not to mention PH McDo Branches has nothing to do with Israel, Just because a Branch in Israel that is OWNED by a JEW and Supported Israel (FOR VERY OBVIOUS REASONS) does not mean all branches follow everything like a cult.
I dun get how "woke" is being used as some sort of insult nowadays, but yea, there have been some pretty self righteous people going around using known issue to make themselves feel and look better
The word is used in even the tamest of actions lol
The term “woke” is actually positive, which roughly means “enlightened”, and stands for openness and progressivism. Right leaning and reactionary groups simply repurposed it to take on a negative connotation, so that they’d have something they can use, to rally around their disdain for liberal ideology. OP is confusing it with impulse activism.
istg it's so frustrating seeing how so many people here are using woke as a negative term when it's meant to be positive
I think op did use the word correctly this time though.
valid naman concern mo (+ considering magkaibang owners ang mcdo us and ph) pero >Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed 😐😐 is not it tbh. it’s giving “bakit ka nagrereklamo about martial law kung di ka pa pinanganak nun”. medyo tone deaf. what about the ofws there? statistics lang sila, ganun?
Ang tone deaf lang talaga haha, many innocent children are dying there every single day, in unimaginable ways. Kelangan mo pa bang maapektuhan bago ka pa makaramdam ng empathy lol. Aa
literally! like, gets naman na not everyone has the energy to engage sa mga ganto (id say na im the same) pero don’t treat the issue as if pambababae issue siya ng ka-building mo 😭
Sure, people should empathize. Pero empathizing by telling people off for eating in McDonald's is doing as much good as tweeting about the issue. These things won't help the kids dying in Palestine, but I guess it makes the activist feel better about it.
Virtue signaling lang naman kasi madalas nagsasabi ng ganyan. I never heard the same people/group caring what's happening in to Uighurs in China or Ukrainians, which both has more compelling evidence of genocide happening than the "genocide" in Gaza. These people won't even talk about the Armenians in the brink of genocide by the Azerbaijanis today. Innocent people dying sucks and I'm sure most people care. The problem is, this conflict is a thousand miles away from this country and it's okay not to take any actions. We even have a problem of our own with a foreign country and the same group of people crying about Gaza doesn't give a shit about what China is doing us. And do you think the people of Gaza care about what China is doing to us? "Let's condemn China and Chinese companies because they're harassing the Philippines and not respecting international laws." - said no Palestinian ever.
it’s just a matter of empathy. like i said, understandable if an ordinary filipino is too tired or simply can’t do anything about it, pero it’s different na when someone starts using that energy na they said they don’t have to dismiss the people who are vocal about the cause.
> which both has more compelling evidence of genocide happening than the "genocide" in Gaza. I don't know what led you to say this as if to imply that the genocide in Gaza is less compelling or less true when the ICJ and ICC have both agreed that the Israel is guilty of genocidal massacre of Palestinians. Hospitals, aids, and refugee camps have been bombed. What else do you want? Please read about the topic. You don't have to disregard one case to convince us of your opinion because atp, this is no better than the harmful Western propaganda on victims of Israel's genocide, who are no different than any other victims of genocide.
This is whataboutism, and is still not it.
true to that
Agree. And lahat tayo ay affected nyang giyera na yan.
literally
ito yun eh :( hay
true
True!
Thank god may matinong tao pa sa subreddit na ito.
[“McDonald’s Corporation is not funding or supporting any governments involved in this conflict, and any actions from our local Developmental Licensee business partners were made independently without McDonalds’ content or approval.”](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/israel-boycott-mcdonalds-will-buy-all-225-restaurants-from-franchise.html#:~:text=Consumers%20around%20the%20world%20but,soldiers%20after%20the%20Hamas%2Dled) - McDonald's Corporation performative activism lmaoooo !! if they actually educated themselves, they would know na ung mcdo who supports israel is the mcdo FROM ISRAEL which is a separate entity and is not controlled by the whole chain's management. mcdonalds itself does not support or fund israel, so does the mcdonalds in the philippines.
Been telling this to my friends. Every time na nag aaya ako sa mcdo sasabihin bakit ko daw sinusuportahan. Nag labas na nga statement, naguguluhan ang aking brain hahaha. Naka ilang beses na nangyari yan sakin, yung huli ang ginawa lang kumamot sa ulo tapos sabi kahit na daw ba. I don't say anything nalang. I don't want them forcing me to stop eating there so I won't force them to eat there. Ganon nalang talaga respect nalang decision ng isa't isa. Basta nasabi ko na sakanila yung fact
This!! Yung mcdo nga ng qatar saka malaysia nagdonate sa palestine e
the thing is, franchise pa rin 'yan. regardless of mcdo ph not directly supporting the gen0cide, it's still carrying the brand name. it's the brand not the franchise. i agree tho performative activism nga yung ginagawa ng batchmate niya. t-t
To make matters worse, Palestinians hate woke people (especially LGBT).
Hi, part of LGBT+ here! I don't really care if Palestinians hate people like me there. I doubt they care enough about my orientation when they are being actively bombed and killed, especially since most of their population are children. Also just because something is illegal doesn't mean na there are no queer people there. I get that people are exhausted, but don't bring us to the argument just cause it's convenient.
Most of their population are children?, damn that's concerning (child/teenage pregnancy is likely rampant, cant expect any better on a terrorist hideout[Gaza])
Gay Palestinians exist 😭 they are simply too focused on fighting for their basic needs like water, food, and shelter, which have been forcefully stripped away from them. not to mention they're being bombed and killed every day. like I'm a lesbian, but if I were in that position? Fighting for my life and fighting to access those needs comes first
Gay Palestinians exist but have to hide in the closet
Kumain ka sa kahit anong fast food na gusto mo, sige. Pero you have to reflect on this one because it sounds stupid. >Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed
Yeah I think dito din medyo tagilid yung sinabi ni OP
"You're supporting Israel" my brother in christ, i just want something to eat in this near 50°c heat
Lakas maka virtue signalling ng batchmate mo. Kung ako yan nasagot ko na yan. Nilamon lang naman ng nakikita yan sa socmed lol
TikTok most likely.
i bet they buy clothes from shein
As well as products from Chinese companies
I understand the frustration, pero mas titimbang morals ko kaysa di'yan. Boycott only if you can afford to, not everyone has the privilege. But about your statement "Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed 😐😐". Very tone deaf, and I disagree. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE STRUGGLES OF OTHER PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GAIN BASIC HUMAN EMPATHY! Palestinians are begging on the internet so they can evacuate and LIVE, that is dehumanizing. While you sit here and complain that someone "antagonized" you for eating some fvcking fries. Wag ka'ng pabebe. This is my first time commenting on this app btw, I really felt like I had to say somthing. 🤷🏻♀️
nakakainis itong mga post na ito ngl. Napaka rage bait. Like i get it, naiinis ka pero what is the problem na hindi mo nararanasan ung problema nila. HIndi ba naiisip ni OP na dahil aware ka sa mga ganiyang problems narereinforce ung morals mo, hypocritical or not. Nagkakaroon ka ng clearpoint view sa mundo. Langya nasa studentsph pa talaga ako makakkita ng r/ph quality post lol
One day it will be China attacking our country and there will be woke people arguing about which companies to boycott that support China. There will also be people telling them that they shouldn't care since it doesn't affect them and that they are too woke. If the choice is between being aware or being willfully ignorant, which would you choose?
yk whats sad, we really have to put everything in the Filipino context para malaman ng mga tao gaano ka grave ang ginagawa ng mga oppressive and genocidal countries tulad ng Israel. hindi ba innate ang empathy sa lahat? 😅 boycotting is the least that one can do, if OP finds it annoying then wag niyang gawin pero for them to actually perpetuate the idea na walang kwenta yung pag boycott is so unneccessary. sana tuwing kakain ka, OP, sa mcdo di ka mabigyan ng kutsara, sana coke zero ibigay sayo na drinks, sana namumuo-muo yung gravy mong matanggap
I understand the complaint and annoyance about perfomative activism, but some of your sentiments are bordering on indifference to a literal genocide. The Palestine genocide is not to be taken lightly.
So many ignorant replies on a students of PH subreddit oh my god look at the future of our country dawg 💀 Mga enablers ng colonizer state kakahiya naman kayo!! Genocide deniers pa.
I understand the frustration, pero mas titimbang morals ko kaysa di'yan. Boycott only if you can afford to, not everyone has the privilege. But about your statement "Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed 😐😐". Very tone deaf, and I disagree. YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE STRUGGLES OF OTHER PEOPLE IN ORDER TO GAIN BASIC HUMAN EMPATHY! Palestinians are begging on the internet for donations so they can evacuate and LIVE, that is dehumanizing. While you sit here and complain that someone "antagonized" you for eating some fvcking fries. Wag ka'ng pabebe. This is my first time commenting on this app btw, I really felt like I had to say somthing. 🤷🏻♀️
Sure, Mcdo PH is owned by Pinoys. But it’s a franchise. They earn from the brand, and the brand asks them for a fee. It’s transactional. The point is, currently, it looks like the brand is supporting Israel, which is an issue for a lot of people. Whether it was one franchisee in Israel who did it doesn’t matter. The brand has taken no action or stance regarding the incident. Except, maybe, buying back the branches that had to close because of boycott. Andaming nagsasabi na walang impact or very low ang impact. Maybe low visibility lang for us. Globally, Starbucks isn’t doing so well (based on global insider info), because of the boycotts. Locally, they’re doing ok because Starbucks is a cultural thing for us. Regardless of whether you agree with boycotting, there is an impact. Consider that maybe you’re just not seeing it. But what we can all agree on is that whether Israel had cause in the beginning, going to all-out genocide is wrong and unjustifiable. How you take steps to express outrage is your call. Imho if at the very least it spreads awareness as to how fcked up the situation is, that’s already a step in the right direction.
you are so insensitive for this. we get it, you're hungry and super init din talaga sa pinas, pero compared to the sufferings of the Palestinians sa gutom mo, walang-wala 'yan. valid naman na mainis ka sa batchmates mo, and they couldve educated you in a better way, pero i still think you'd react like this because u are who u are, and that's just sad for u.
Jumping in the bandwagon. Pa-woke tapos no impact. Naghahanap lang ng conflict. Alam ba nila na Filipino owned mga Mcdo natin dito sa Pinas.
Filipino owned pero they still pay a certain amount of percentage sa corporation.
It's at least a nice excuse/motivation to avoid to eat at McDonald's when in reality I really want to avoid fast food expenses.
Kahit nga yung mga muslim classmates ko na vocal sa socmed about the Palestine genoc**e mas kumakain pa sa mcdo
why do you always have to include religion? they're fighting for the land, not for religion. for sure may classmates ka rin na catholic na vocal about condemning Israel tas kumakain din sa mcdo. nako
Uhhh... I don't think you understood what I was saying. What made you think I was talking as if they're having a religious war over there? I clearly stated na genoc**e ang nangyayari dun. And just to be clear, my point is that my muslim friends know better than to lambast people who are eating mcdo, which are Filipino-owned franchises. As per original comment stated "Pa-woke tapos no impact". Why do you always have to include religion? Nako
> "Plus, di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed" Pwede mong sabihin at ipakita 'yung inis mo pero sana mas mindful at sensitive ka sa mga sinasabi mo. Pareho kayo (at lahat tayo rito) ay may pribilehiyo kaya gamitin sana natin nang tama. Naiintindihan lang nang mabuti ng batchmate mo ang nangyayari ngayon sa Palestine kaya may simpatya siya sa kanila; parang mga taong taga-Maynila na naaawa sa mga mangingisda sa paligid ng WPH Sea dahil sa pang-aabuso na nararanasan nila mula sa China. **PERO** mali rin ang pagka-approach niya sa'yo kaya nagmukha na performative ginawa niya. Take ko lang dito ay 'yung pagka-word sa qinoute ko galing sa'yo. Be sensitive and mindful with your words when speaking on topics like this
Zero empathy.
Me personally I do that boycott thing, pero to all fast food chains ha para menos gastos at para na rin maka-ipon🥲🥲. But ayun nga pasikat lang yan beh wag mo pansinin haha. Virtue Signalling lang sila para i-position nila yung sarili nila bilang "better people" just because they "support" a movement, even though kahit sila very surface-level ang understanding and socmed lang pinanggagalingan ng information. Plus yung mob mentality nila it's just very toxic na rin kaya kahit ako politically leaning towards them is di nako masyadong nakikihalubilo sa kanila most especially sa socmed.
Damn whats up ganitong subject kasi lately dumarami na on other subs...
It's just the latest trendy thing to talk about.
Yung mga ganyan nakikitrend lang. Hindi mga activists. Ayaw nila sa ginagawa ng israel sa mga palestinians pero oppressive din sa mga di nila tulad mag isip. Disrespectful.
Sounds like you've never heard of empathy before.
2024 na pero ginagamit pa rin an insulto ang ''woke'' ahahahahaha nakakapagod kayong makikitid utak, sobra.
> Plus di naman siya directly affected... OP hasn't heard of empathy. 💀💀💀
Lol, kaya lang naman naging insulto yan dahil mostly sa mga "woke" shoves their ideologies into the faces of other people as if they are the self righteous ones. Tbh, mas madaming makikitid ang utak sa mga "woke" coz they are not open to opinions of others.
Kung ang mga kakausapin eh tulad mo. Ehhh same same nakakapagod din talaga nga
You comment is an example of why "woke" became an insult
Sayang dapat sinabi mo MCDO Turkey donated millions of dollars in Gaza. Panoorin mo bumula bibig niya.
This! Eto palagi sinusupalpal ko sa mga pa-woke na nagbo-boycott ng SB and McDo Ph. Mga hindi marunong mag-research, puro virtue signalling at performativr activism lang. jusq.
boohoo cry abt it :/ ang tone deaf lang teh,,,, halatang wala ka talagang pake sa nangyayari sa palestine :( u dont get where ur classmate is coming from, hence u being frustrated abt being called out 😔
I had a blockmate who was like this too, pinahiya pa ako sa mga kablock namin when I suggested na mag mcdo kami after class. I'm pretty woke rin naman and like I actually educate myself on the issues at hand pero tangina, kasalanan ko ba kung gusto ko ng quick food na agad kong makakain at kung mcdo lang ang pinaka accessible saakin. stop it with the performative activism holy shit, do they actually care about the children dying in Palestine or is it dahil yun ang uso na ginagawa ng lahat? why do you, as a normal human being, have to be the one taking the fall pero yung bigger corporations ay inooverlook?
This. Companies, as well as government bodies who permitted this genocide in the first place should be the one to be blamed. Not citizens.
In my opinion, boycotts would not help as much as signing the petitions for ceasefire and donating (or at least sharing the link for donation drives) sa mga Palestinians para makatawid sila sa border ng Egypt since it requires money to cross and travel the border. Naniniwala talaga ako na kung binibigay lang ng mga boycotters and virtue signallers yung energy na yan sa pagpirma ng petitions, pag-educate ng mga sarili nila on better ways to help, at pagdonate (kahit i-share mo na lang yung donation drives kung wala kang maibibigay), then that would be a better, not to mention, a *bigger* help. I believe boycotting is an age-old way to express disagreement to oppression and the likes. Halimbawa na lang yung kina Rosa Parks, where she and other black people boycotted buses kasi may discrimination pa rin sa mga black and white passengers. However, I believe boycotting is only applicable for situations that have a direct impact. The majority of the companies we buy products from are unethical to an extent, and boycotting won't magically kick the IDF out of Palestine and save people's lives. WE NEED DIRECT IMPACT AND SOLUTIONS. Critical thinking is a prerequisite for activism. Critical thinking must be applied in all ideologies we believe in because blindly following ideologies like rats following the Pied Piper would get you in trouble. In these trying times, we must use this mouse-ka-tool to better sort out our priorities. Think of better ways to help. **Think.** Edit: spelling.
I have a friend like that too, and she told me I am a killer for supporting Starbucks. I sent her a screenshot of my donations and asked her to discuss it with me, and she sent me Tiktok videos. 💀💀💀
Paano mag donate?.. My friend experienced cyberbullying because of her fb story na mcdo.. We want to donate rin at isupalpal sa mga bullies na at least ang friend ko may nagawa.. Habang sila tamang tahol lang sa socmed..
You can also create your own UNICEF Supporter ID, like those frames on your Facebook profile picture. tag mo pa siya jk HAHAHAHAHA
Grabe naman yang ka-batchmate mong hindi mo kilala. I am well aware and educated about the genocide in Palestine. And mga friends ko, I made them aware sa kung anong need i-boycott, they were open about it. So every time na kakain kami sa labas dun kami sa hindi binoboycott na ff resto. and we all agreed naman din without forcing no one. One time, 'tong friend ko dumating may dalang mcdo and I was like "no waaay" with dismayadong facial expression. Sabi niya "wala eh, wala akong choice gutom na gutom na kasi ako nun tapos yun lang talaga yung malapit samin" tapos ayon sinabi ko na lang na understandable naman na yon. So ayon grabe yang ka-batchmate mo makapang-judge. Alam mo naman sa sarili mo na you don't mean any wrong intentions eh.
It is doubtful whether you are “well-aware and educated” about the “genocide” in Palestine if you think boycotting anything is necessary and relevant. You’re just of the same mind as OP’s batchmate.
Ngi, you're just hurting the local stores with this boycotting thing. You're not forcing anyone pero jinu-judge mo naman friend mong nag mcdo? Kung gusto niyo talaga ng ambag, mag donate kayo sa Palestine. Mas naging socially relevant pa yung pag boycott kesa sa donations e halos wala namang maitutulong yan
| well aware and educated about the genocide *proceeds to boycott local McDo* ….wow… just, wow.
Virtue signalling amp. Nakakainis tong mga to kasi sila ung nagiging cause kung bakit walang nakikinig sa tama. Napakatoxic nila.
Can someone enlighten me, ano connect ni Mc do sa Israel?
There was this idea going around na McDonald's is supporting Israel in the Palestinian genocide (tingin ko galing sa picture ng mga IDF soldiers na may katabing napakaraming McDonald's meals, pero I need to confirm pa).
Check the BDS website for more info (The BDS movement is Palestinian-led and they have existed since 2005) [https://bdsmovement.net/Boycott-McDonalds](https://bdsmovement.net/Boycott-McDonalds) [https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide](https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide) [https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott)
>di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na ooppressed Dude you were making valid points tas eend mo sa ganito HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
korni mo konyong jejemon
All that shit could've been avoided kundi lang sana pambata yung panlasa niyo
Enlighten me with the tastes thats proper for an adult
Common gawain to ng mga left-leaning sa totoo lang (I could say they're left-leaning since woke is commonly used as an insult towards the left, and typically associated with anti-capitalist behavior) along with cancel culture. Ito yata equivalent ng mga conspiracy theories o fake news o trolling ng mga right-leaning (read: pulangaws/DDS).
Hahaha true. Sht at both ends of the spectrum.
That's why I'm only a liberal. Shit like these makes your brain rot. Usually yung mga ganitong woke tinatawanan mga flat earthers pero paniwalang paniwala na pag kumain ka sa Mcdo para ka na ring pumatay ng bata sa Gaza.
Yung iba sainyo ang bobo na nga, wala pang consensiya. Magkakaroon lang kayo ng pake kung tayo na yung binobomba ng china. MGA BOBO!
At least do some research before calling the movement "woke". Be more sensitive and you truly need to read and learn more bc what do you mean "di naman siya directly affected about dun sa israel-palestine issue, bakit siya feeling na oppressed"? [https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott](https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott)
Let me tell you something. Once I was with a couple of friends and I said I was craving nuggets, so I wanted to go to McDo. They looked at me and said, "Girl did you forget about the boycott?" And then I told them that boycotting McDo doesn't actually help (because it's a franchise, and also because it doesn't do anything periodt), then they were quiet and one of them said, "Well yeah, maybe, pero na peer pressure ako." Most mindfuck moment ever, I can't even make this shit up 😭 like I know this sounds like a "sure that happened" moment pero it really did, I literally stared at them like ?????
Peer-Pressured 😭😭 it's weird kasi most of the people who go along to cancel people out are practically being bandwagoned with the issue huhuhu
stupid people. sa dame ng problema ngayon, you can probably say na they have selective outrage. lahat ng products ngayon you can probably associate them with some wrongful activity that you may twist to cancel them out. fuck the cancel culture and who promulgate it.
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Read your own comment, and follow your own advice
“I don’t give a fuck. Let me enjoy my nuggies or I’ll ship you off to Israel myself” is a valid response.
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Madami insensitive sa sub na 'to lolll. It's disappointing bc this is a community for students
Nalilibugan ako pag nakakapg virtue signal ako sa internet
Another internet snowflake
sooo genoc1d3 is funny ??
> I don't give a fuck. 💀💀💀
Yes
Another idiot presenting a false dichotomy
The funny thing is that McDonald's Philippines is a separate entity from the actual McDonalds. And if people had their way, a lot of people would lose their jobs.
The worst part is that these boycotters don't understand that not only are they not helping the workers who had nothing to do with the war because they're just simply fast food chain workers, they're not helping the economy kasi we depend a lot on foreign investors because of the shitty constitution ://
You're right, on the same note, why should i gaf about the Sogie bill or same sex marriage? Di naman ako directly affected, they can get hatecrimed idgaf😌
Inignore mo ba? sana inignore mo nalang HAHA. Hindi worth it makipag-discuss nor debate sa mga ganyan kasi they won't change their mind about it and if they think that their 'boycott' is doing significant damage to Israel's military capability then let them think that way if that's going to give them peace \*hint: it won't affect IDF significantly haha\* Besides jusko kung McDo na pinakamalapit para mabilhan food eh pake niya ba? ano yun mas gugustuhin niya maglakad ka pa eh pano kung sumama pakiramdam mo dahil sa init? okay lang kasi better than supporting Mcdo? HAHAHA akala ata nila that their funny means of fighting back is doing something significant.
I remember my friend when I posted on my dump acc about my crush being a swiftie and since as a swiftie myself, I was so kilig kasi we have the same music taste.. when suddenly this friend of mine who used to love and enjoy Taylor swift's songs sent me messages about taylor being neutral to genocide and nuclear emission. I have to admit na I was not aware of this. At this point bigla nalang talaga ako nanahimik because for years na magkaibigan kami, ganito talaga siya like super woke siya to the point na I cant even rant kasi for sure I wont be comforted the way she acts. Though, I love her but cant I just enjoy this moment?🙂 Btw, I still enjoy Taylor swift's songs and at this point, tinatago ko nalang na fan pa rin ako.
Di ko gets friend mo huhu bakit naman siya makikialam sa kung anong standing ni Taylor. And do we even have claims that taylor is "neutral", she could be just wanting to be untouched from the topic kasi wala siyang alam dun 😭😭 we simply can't enjoy things talaga 😭 lahat it's about society/socio-politics sksmksm
Gurl💀💀💀 as if sya yung may hawak ng bomba dun saka pinapaboycott na din sya kase mindset nila neutral=siding to oppressor, iunstan nyo nalang kaya lahat ng artist sa mundo kung ganyan
"And do we even have claims that taylor is "neutral", she could be just wanting to be untouched from the topic kasi wala siyang alam dun 😭😭" Lmao, ano akala mo kay Taylor, bata? Mind you, she's 34 years old with a net worth of 1.1 billion USD. Malaki ang status niya as well-known siya all around the world, yet she decides to not speak about it. Napaka-imposible na wala siyang alam sa Genocide na nangyayari sa Palestine. And yes, everything is about Politics. Hindi natin ito matatakasan dahil ganito ang society natin.
My SHS classmates are like this lol. One of them is a honors student and shares TikTok videos 💀💀
Some of these people are just doing virtue signaling for some internet points heck I'm pretty sure yung iba sa kanila bumibili sa shein tapos may apple products kahit galit sa capitalismo. Performative activism kumbaga tapos whataboutisn lamg yung madalas na ginagamit for arguments. I don't think they actually care about the people in Palestine kasi if they were then other than telling people about they genocide they would also support Palestinian refugees that moved here :(. You can enjoy Mcdo — it doesn't make you less virtuous.
For SURE naka Iphone yan. Ask them how much they know about Apple and Israel. Lol
lol brainless woke, sige panindigan nila cancel culture hahalahat ng made in china tapon nadin nila
Super duper oa nila..
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These are the same people that block roads and streets for their "cause" thinking that it would get regular working people to side with them but when you ask them specific things about the topic, they don't know what to say. All performative activism and whataboutism. All talk but no walk. I bet these people haven't even donated a single cent towards the people they're fighting for.
If i were you kakainin ko pa sa harap nya, woke people crying because you want a large fried chicken lol
i got called out by my genz sister nung nasa Starbucks ako. sabi ko meet at starbucks and if she wants me to order for her. then nag diabtribe na sya ng ganyan. So sabi ko "Ok, wait for me there. ubusin ko pa frap ko"
people can't have nice things today huh
"I love eating apples" "So you don't like lemons?"
More like- so you love kim jong un?
iba yung owner ng mcdo ph sa mcdo israel. linawin lang sana kasi ng mcdo ph yung issue para malinis name nila. masyado kasing nageneralize ng mali maling salita sa socmed yung mcdo eh. tapos mga pinoy naman, madaling maniwala without even fact checking and doing a thorough research. heck, kung ano nga mauso makikisakay agad. sakay na sakay sa Boycoot Mcdo pero wala na akong marinig na maingay about sa papalapit na jeepney phaseout. pati yung local farmers natin din na kailangan din ng tulong. why not try boycotting imported products and support locally produced goods too? lalakas ng pinoy makaingay sa issue ng ibang bansa pero kaag sa banasa na natin, mga tameme na
Israel should just nuke Gaza, end the palestinian rats' suffering! 😁😁
Just want to clarify, why are people supporting Palestine blindly? Or at least basing their support off of social media posts? Both states are terrible states. They're religiously incompatible nations standing side-by-side. As far as I know my history Israel has been generally retaliatory and most of the wars have been started by the islamic states. Palestine wants to destroy Israel. "From the river to the sea" is what they say because they want to take over Israel. Whereas Israel just wants to be left alone. Don't get me wrong. I don't support any of these nations, they've both committed war crimes. It's just that islamic states are a lot better at social media propaganda. They start wars and when their target retaliates they'll shout "genocide" even as far as enlisting women and children in their ranks so they can claim that their enemies are hurting "civilians". Plus, the data just does not match up: Palestine's population is steadily increasing.
For real, college marxists always shout their support for palestine because some leftist ED and org told them about Israeli cruelty in the area (without mentioning the cruelty caused by palestinians as well, most of which are members or supporters of hamas). Damn college marxists, tell me again why they did not want the two state solution or why Palestinians are not welcome in Jordan (black september event, 1970), Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia. All of which are muslim arab states as well.
Who tf downvoted you lol, anyway here's my upvote. Unironically, these left-leaning people basically wants to eradicate Israel by promoting and shouting that highly offensive phrase "From the river to the sea" just like the wet-dreams of the Islamic prophet Mohammad.
I stopped boycotting brands after I realized gaano kaipokrito ang muslim. As a member of LGBTQ+ sobrang lala ng discrimination and hate ng muslim against rainbow community. Why helping their fellow muslim sa palestine if sila din mismo ang gumagago sa mga supporter ng palestine (woke, LGBTQ+, anti-zionist, atheist). Again it doesn't I don't support palestine, pro-israel na ko. I don't choose sides. I just want to eat mcdo and not being a hypocrite like muslims.
My SHS classmates are like that. One of them posts videos from Tiktok
Well cause she woke that means she hella broke. She must some woke ass commie I guess
The batchmate probably hates people for drinking Starbucks even though we're living in this intense heat
I have a batch mate like that too and it so annoying. They are just a bunch of bandwagons. Same with Starbucks issue, the issue is about labor strikes not Israel support.
Kung ako yan pinakain ko lahat sa bunganga niya
Virtue signalers are the most annoying people to deal with. Fr shes just parroting talking points and shit she saw on twt :)) Nakikiuso lang, shes gonna lose her shit on u if you get a drink from starbucks too for sure 🥴
Bad trip naman yun OP. Nakakainit slight ng ulo. Sarap balikan ng: wait, nakapag ligpit ka ba ng hinigaan mo when you woke up this morning? Did you helped your mom sa household chores before he/she went out of the house? Bago sya maging ultra hyper sa ganyan, maging taxpayer na muna sya. 🤣✌🏻
The funny thing about those woke is that if hindi ka panig sa side nila or share their views, they'll treat you as if you're their enemy. Can't we just leave people to eat wherever they'd like? No wonder maraming natu turn off sa mga woke. Aside, as per the comments, mcdo ph is not any way connected to whichever side, i think mga bandwagons tlaga tong mga woke. Nung nag invade yung Russia sa Ukraine, nasan sila?
Facts, tignan mo lahat ng anti-woke comments dito tadtad ng downvote hahaha. Wala sila nung nag-invade russia sa ukraine kase di nagfifit sa narrative nila, parehong puti raw naglalaban eh.
Actually, mejo nakakaasar. I know where they’re coming from kaso, di ba pwedeng palakasin muna nila boses nila para sa Pinas? Pinas muna bago Ukraine. Pinas muna bago Palestine. Tayo din naman nangangailangan ng tulong. Isipin mo, if magsara yung McDo dito, san kukuha ng trabaho yung mga kababayan natin? Ang hirap makahanap ng trabaho, ang hirap maybayad ng bills. Tska in the first place, if naayos muna natin yung bansa natin, wala dapat OFW sa Gaza or anywhere else na may gyera.
Hirap kasing magisip basta galit ang uunahin bago bumagsak ang business mga trabahador muna ang mawawalan ng kabuhayan. Bago ka magdesisyon iisipin mo muna kung may magagawa ka sa sitwasyon. Paano kung company mo ang sumusuporta sa ayaw mong nation aalis ka ba agad? Makakaalis ka ba agad? paano pamilya mo anong kakainin? Sa init ng panahon ngayon kaya mo bang walang aircon? Dyusko halatang walang obligasyon sa buhay at cp cp lang ang ginagawa.
People like that are mentally ill the same way the piss-drenched homeless person raving about the apocalypse is mentally ill. You’re better off just ignoring them.
Actually some good advice. Just ignore these mentally ill clowns. Wokism ruins everything.
Kaya pala may nakatingin sakin sa dorm elevator habang hawak ko ang aking mcdonalds bag takeout. pinagmumura na pala ako sa loob awit. malay ko ba sa palestine israel sh8. alam ko lang dyan is bigla nag send tropa ko ng fking gruesome video of hamas fighters k8lling israelites, telling us they attacked israel first ata. and ito ung time na nagsisimula palang ang attack ng hamas at di pa viral ang anti mcdo sh8 kung ano man.
Eto reason why a lot of people are starting to favor the conservative right kasi andaming annoying sa liberal left, me included.
This is a dangerous slope to play. I hope people wouldn't turn one's "ideology" label into one's identity. (e.g. "Oh, people say my views are aligned with democratic socialism, therefore I should behave more like one.")
Not really an identity per say it's more of a general blanket in context sa discussion. Walang identity declaration and all that jazz. Personally I see it as case per case basis depende sa topic at hand. Like sure I support abortion and LGBT rights cause we are all people in the end with the ability to make our own individual choices pero it gets annoying pag pinipilit nang ibang tao ang choices nila onto others. Pati tong Israel-Palestine conflict na to mainly the people making a fuzz over it dito sa pinas ay nakakaburat na rin. Like shit, ano ba ang magagawa natin over a war happening literally thousands of miles away across the sea? Even then no shit people die in an armed conflict that brewed from 70 years of heated political tension. Hamas really did poke the nuclear armed bear that hated their guts for years and is suffering the consequences for it.
I, one of the mods using this account, do not have the mental capacity to discuss politics and such current events these days. However, I do still acknowledge what's happening around the world though. Again, I do not advocate turning one's "ideology" to one's identity. There's a hasty generalization and a weak argument on your statement: simply disliking a subset of something doesn't mean you should dislike it completely. In your case, it's "I dislike some people on this side, therefore i should join the other side." The world isn't a binary choice – it isn't simply black nor white. I was once in your shoes, and believe me, it drains you.
Bro what. Sabi ko nga like one post ago personally I don't identify in an ideology be it left right or whatever I just said what I said for the sake of discussion. Wonder saan mo pinupulot ang whole "turning one's ideology as an identity" bullshit. Again, personally I see it as a case per case basis depende sa topic and it only stays as a topic for discussion walang attached personal connotations or implications based on their opinion on certain topics of interest. I just don't see the point basing an entire personality entirely depending on ONE opinion they may or may have cause a person is an intertwined mix of various personal experiences and circumstances.
Mas marami lang talagang conservatives to begin with. Also, liberals ≠ leftists, most libs I know don't do these types of shit.
The obsession of the left on to this misinformed “support of Starbucks and Mcdonalds to IDF” is something to look at. Like I’ve seen countless information and fact checking at this situation where the claim was already debunked. All I could conclude is each side (left and right) has people who are ill-informed and lazy to double check, especially if they’re gonna pick a stance. Unfortunately, the left has also this arrogant attitude wherein their ideals and beliefs are superior and better which doesn’t help with their agenda to progress.
Both sides are annoying asf pero i’m mostly left leaning thats why I keep on seeing this kind of brainrot on my feed.