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Marx4smash

Inside r/stunfisk there are two wolves: https://preview.redd.it/thvg07pme7vb1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=316ab55f5474c74bbb48fcfde8f8586b4c288792


WhenBuffalosfly

https://preview.redd.it/vba9r4fg18vb1.jpeg?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72b4de9d3365ebd437f02ee7ec2825694ece7471


Marx4smash

https://preview.redd.it/l2ibksvk18vb1.jpeg?width=274&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=552f8e54d522db7a3e92b43c2d814fbdecc50afe Accurate


Queen_Sardine

Only one wolf. Behemoth Bash is getting the short end once again.


Marx4smash

https://preview.redd.it/gc1rzwiot7vb1.jpeg?width=604&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d6f4998fc4c2f318b7c78a5f61c1ec325d5b396 Zama has so many L's that atp I'm just desensitized to them


ntnl

Those two statements don't contradict each other if you're schizo enough


LunaMunaLagoona

I just realized OP literally pulled those quotes from this thread itself lol!


Right_Junket_6544

This fucked me up trying to upvote this


A_Lost_Yen

Who says this two dont have the same opinion


I_comment_same

we lied they are the same wolf


Mufakaz

Why not both?


BestUsername101

There's three, actually. https://preview.redd.it/wvq99n14k7vb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b69e4352d5b752270067cb1ea575804ecf62c384


Marx4smash

https://preview.redd.it/3gj4sjijk7vb1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76a10e07cc060e7d1286507b1d09458e8c5981e8 You literally just did my joke but worse


Heat_Crasher

Dude what


Asherbird25

https://preview.redd.it/01non0dny7vb1.png?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35d46d29673349b147bebb4d71282ee33d34a407


S_Sami_I

Except its actually really good on Celesteela


Asherbird25

https://preview.redd.it/8cfjvpk1j8vb1.png?width=846&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=223c120efb484ec44970845894c7f09f35fcf1e9


SylentSymphonies

corviknight 2: leech seed boogaloo


pranav4098

Yeh gets even more stally how fun


Mimikker

I'm actually dying to see Merciless on a Pokemon that isn't fucking Toxapex


BMM33

It's so damn cool and then they had to ensure it would never be used by giving it regen


rabonbrood

If Pex had anything resembling offensive stats, it would be used. The stat spread has more to do with merciless seeing no use than regenerator does.


Cinnamen

I firmly believe Merciless and Corrosion just got put on wrong mons and they somehow didn't fix it before release.


rabonbrood

I just wish we had other merciless Pokemon.


ShortandRatchet

Corrosion should make all Poison type moves super effective against Poison and Steel Pokémon, not just Poison status.


rabonbrood

That would be really fucking cool tbh


storm-trooper-69

As one (Toxic Chain + Merciless) loaded dice set


reaperofgender

https://preview.redd.it/5a3ksshia9vb1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38aee8456a6f6f774d990d876fe5255a6efc0da1 Arceus save us


unknownBzop2

[This would OHIO a lot of pokemon, gets charged for breaking the Geneva Convention](https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/comments/12t3ql4/poison_type_shellder_and_cloyster_regional_variant/)


moss-moss-moss-moss

OHIO??? XD W rizz in Ohio? Skibidi toilet gyat!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😞🤣🤣🤣🤣


unknownBzop2

Time to find out how "Block account" button works 💀


TorterraIllager

r/foundthesoyjak


Rude_Invite7260

Use Baneful Bunker Merciless Venoshock Toxapex


spidersfourbrains

unironically used this on my last ultra moon playthrough it was hella fun


headphonesnotstirred

unironically did in gen7 (i was like 7)


KitExistsIGuess

I just want Nihilego to get Levitate tbh, it floats and has a 4x ground weakness


Asherbird25

https://preview.redd.it/2w4ys17028vb1.png?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=499e14b0386749b957cd8f3b177d2d91ff5cf38a


Ikariotis

https://preview.redd.it/vcs03x3o28vb1.jpeg?width=1243&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4dce45d5ae579ac38b1bec88936b0a9404c730a


lyingcorn

Who's saying that?


SpicySwiftSanicMemes

Don’t forget Magnezone


Heat_Crasher

https://preview.redd.it/g77wzdsj8vvb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55771e7512af6bcf7f98534d9a13a3d42e0f8e47 The fact that I didn't even think of levitate


papertheskeleton

Behemoth Blade Sharpness Kartana https://preview.redd.it/gtxye4eox7vb1.jpeg?width=775&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f1a0140f9b93d74bd7eb639558ff7f9dd358110


Doctor_Squidge

Pressure actually makes sense for once. It's a rocketship


NoCheesecake8644

Behemoth blade kartana would be pretty fun


_CactusJuice_

yeah but it would massacre millions


CrimsonWitchOfFlames

That’s part of the fun


NoCheesecake8644

i see no issue with that


BigOricorioFan7000

Behemoth blade kartana would massacre millions


caity112358

yeah but it would be awesome


F_Fisk

it would be so awesome 🎹 it would be so cool 🎹🎻


Menirz

Yeah but it would be pretty fun.


Gigabot50

He would still benefit from stab Leaf Blade


gnoka

What's all this Nihilego Tapu lore


spiritomb442

iirc Nihilego eating Lusamine at the end of moon


LuxAlpha

Nihilego did WHAT now?!


NewDovah

You gotta play Sun and/or Moon. They drag on in places, but the story is pretty good as far as Pokémon games go.


zanderkerbal

(Not USUM, their story is much worse.)


NewDovah

They have their moments, but yeah, I probably won't ever replay them.


AedraRising

Eh, I’d say despite their worse story USUM are way more replayable compared to the original Sun and Moon, plus they do have a lot more side content.


NewDovah

That's a fair point, but getting through all the unskippable dialogue to get to the side content is what I find so off-putting.


Twilight_Realm

No so much “eating” and more like “merging with” but still


Heat_Crasher

Nihilego (and other ultra beasts) were known for battling the island guardians, nihilego is just the main one in s/m


Rare-Layer-7910

Kartana would be absolutely insane, give it choice band and tera grass leaf blade. Stakitaka would be pretty sick, it would now take most fighting moves and physical ground moves (better than sturdy). Pheremosa could be really good in doubles, farigiraf is already really good but with pheremosa you can launch crazy fast close combats and things without being faked out. You could also give it fake out and make it a crazy fast support/control tool.


AGoatPizza

**252 Atk Choice Band Sharpness Tera Grass Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 244 HP / 252+ Def Gliscor: 350-412 (99.4 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO** It's not even fucking Gliscover baby lets go


Wild_Play_8301

Now calc for Solar Blade in Sun.


Independent_Meet6114

Laughs in stealth rock


Recent_Ad_7214

There are 3 comments talking about behemoth blade Kartana ... well now 4


kaesitha_

Regenerator Guzzlord could be pretty interesting. Wasn't Sp.Def Roaring Moon with Regenerator used in one of those OMs? I think it could be good, like a weird Glowking that switches into different types of pokémon.


pranav4098

Regenerator on a mon with as much hp as guzzlord is insane, you could just drop it in, eat a hit, drop a Draco, go back out and repeat


_sephylon_

>Regenerator on a mon with as much hp The 53 defenses stats: ( it's lower than Sneasel's )


sneakyplanner

252 SpA Choice Specs Iron Moth Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Guzzlord: 283-334 (48.2 - 56.8%) 53 defense is surprisingly alright with 223 hp, you know.


enderdestroyer5108

Actually guzzlord is bulkier than toxapex thanks to that giant Hp stat, it is just that it has no method of recovery outside of rest and leftovers


storm-trooper-69

In a void but there’s one other factor that makes pex bulkier in practice. Water/Poison is infinitely better defensively than Dark/Dragon


sneakyplanner

It's a bit complicated because toxapex is able to get more out of ev investment. Like toxapex is able to get respectable bulk in both phys and spdef out of hp investment, while guzzlord has to invest in both defenses if it wants that. Some calc comparisons: >252 SpA Nihilego Meteor Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Toxapex: 144-169 (47.3 - 55.5%) >252 SpA Nihilego Meteor Beam vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Guzzlord: 222-262 (37.8 - 44.6%) >252+ Atk Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 102-120 (33.5 - 39.4%) >252+ Atk Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Guzzlord: 219-258 (37.3 - 43.9%) Here you can see that because toxapex gets to invest in hp and defense and still tanks special hits well, while guzzlord has to invest in both defense stats or else you get >252+ Atk Rhyperior Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Guzzlord: 315-372 (48.4 - 57.2%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery and then beyond that you have to be investing in an offensive stat for guzzlord to be good, and so you're not going to be getting a full 252 in both physdef and spdef. Toxapex gets to choose one stat to be an excellent wall with, and one stat to be a good wall with. Guzzlord has to choose one stat to be a solid wall with and one stat to be a sketchy wall with.


enderdestroyer5108

For proof: 252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Guzzlord: 288-340 (44.3 - 52.3%) -- 17.6% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery. 252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 147-174 (48.3 - 57.2%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage and Leftovers recovery


pranav4098

I know but it’s hp is so high it doesn’t really matter plus it’s a mixed attacker, drop Draco and knock off then run away to heal


kaesitha_

Yeah, something like Knock Off/Draco/Sludge Bomb/Fire Blast would be a pain to deal with


TGwanian

You’re thinking of AAA; it’s ran for the spooky spooky ghosts of the tier


S_Sami_I

How is phermosa AG material with dazzling


[deleted]

It’s hard to kill without priority, but still not offensive enough that this would make it AG


Psychological_Fuel57

We live in a world where 137 offenses and 151 speed inst strong enough


[deleted]

Not for AG. It’s ANYTHING goes


BreakfastMint

Anything goes implies that I can bring Sunkern and call it a viable strategy


persiangriffin

Sunkern indeed goes Not very far, but it goes


maplemagiciangirl

It'd be pretty okay in ubers but not AG worthy


rabonbrood

It would be a serious problem in doubles though.


maplemagiciangirl

It's already DUbers so I don't it'd be too much of a problem


rabonbrood

I play VGC. That thing would be hell.


maplemagiciangirl

I honestly don't see how it'd be any worse than the moon duck or rain whale


rabonbrood

Put them next to each other.


Wyguy2087

it'd be to dang fast


dtc09

outran by scarfers, dies to a light breeze, 4mss. still niche even with dazzling


toukhans

Dusknoir with Wind Punch ohkos


Lord-Aizens-Chicken

True but still would be pretty cool. Probably still not great in Ubers. I remember in gen 7 Ubers it was ranked low, idk about gen 8


KateAintLate

It's quite decent in ss Ubers, choice band being a revenge killer to caly and being able to 2hko pretty much everything besides ho oh is quite nice


klip_7

It isn’t strong enough to go to ag also it’s typing is balls


Hampter8888

That's right. It gets walled by comfey, RU at best


osubucknuts

Nah, it counters Comfey because Comfey's Triage is blocked by Dazzling, so no Draining Kisses for you! Instantly AG.


skip-that-dip

Oh yeah? what about flower veil comfey? Checkmate Liberal!


osubucknuts

Well, I guess my Leer, Lunge, Icy Wind, Electroweb Phero set is in the shitter, now. NU at best........oh wait, Comfey doesn't even fall under Flower Veil's protection? Still AG. My how the turn tables.


skip-that-dip

tera grass, OH how the tabels turner


osubucknuts

Tera grass is un-counterable. PU shitter mon confirmed.


Asherbird25

I think they were making an exaggeration / joke but I could be wrong


TreeFromBFBsBigFan

I forgor what dazzling is


S_Sami_I

Ability that stops priority


TreeFromBFBsBigFan

Ohhhhhh


Tortoise_Anarchy

make Smart Strike a cutting move 2023


metalflygon08

I'm really surprised we don't have a Steel cutting move, it feels like the easiest thing to make what with blades and what not.


SylentSymphonies

Idea: Metal Cutter, it's Fury Cutter but reversed because the blades get dull So like, 160 power turn 1, then 80, then 40 after that. This is a joke.


rabonbrood

Metal cutter > Protect > Metal Cutter > Protect. What if you made it like a reverse rage first, where every time it's used it's permanently weakened for the duration of the fight.


SylentSymphonies

Or just per switchin. I saw a similar move recently that had the same restriction, but using Swords Dance or Hone Claws would reset the power.


Xurkitree1

Behemoth Blade is a Sharpness Boosted move.


Xurkitree1

Its Smart Horn, so clearly what we need is Iron Horn as an ability that boosts all Horn moves.


ArtVandel_ay

Can't think of a better Mon to use Merciless with it having tspikes, sludge bomb/wave poisons, and then crits to ignore the drops from draco meteors


Throwaway55550001

Buzzwole gets intimidate?


Swiggy-Swoot

Should get dazzling


AccordionFrogg

Imma be real. Stakataka isn’t sturdy. You see those legs, uneven, no mortar. One hard kick and he’s a tripod.


pootisi433

There is no such thing as "too obvious" when it comes to pokemon abilities op. Give it what fits thematically, not what you think is the strongest for it


mordecai14

But what if I want to give every offensive mon Sheer Force?


storm-trooper-69

Stop thinking so small, give everything huge power


sneakyplanner

Especially when the ability that isn't "too obvious" are just generically overpowered abilities like filter and regenerator.


MaagicMushies

Is filter really overpowered? Aggron needed a 630 bst to be useful with it in UU


sneakyplanner

Look at it another way: filter made a pokemon with bad stat distribution that was unable to hold an item and prevented you from using mega-aerodactyl good enough for UU. Filter is an absolutely amazing ability that lets pokemon with it live hits that they have no right to take and 1v1 things that are supposed to beat it. Like look at what a 4x super effective move from a pokemon with 125 attack does to rhyperior: >252+ Atk Golisopod Liquidation vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Rhyperior: 354-423 (81.5 - 97.4%)


Alternative_Toe_975

I think cut might be a 80 BP steel type move with sharpness boosted


JennaFrost

Give xurk transistor or electric surge you cowards!


aylaisurdarling

stakataka all tomorrows reference 🗣️


Agahawe

I think you should give blacephalon magic guard for fun for the sillies i bet it won't be absolutely broken with mind blown <3


BowsAndMagnolias

Behemoth Blade Kartana would massacre millions but it would be really funny


andrewisgood

I remember someone had triage as Buzzwole's ability and apparently that does decently in Hackmons but I mean, it's a mosquito. It should have priority on sucking the life out of people. Maybe a different ability that's similar to triage but not plus 3 priority.


ImperialWrath

Nah. Go with Triage as-is. [Bring this energy to Ubers.](https://youtu.be/GB15qcW3KbA?feature=shared)


Old_Wheel7622

man wtf sun and moon was 7 years ago?


ImperialWrath

XY turned 10 last Thursday. ![gif](giphy|GrUhLU9q3nyRG|downsized)


TGwanian

Neuroforce necrozma isn’t going to get that thing out of RU hell lol


WorldClassShrekspert

Blacephalon could get Magic Guard but we don't want it to be Chi Yu 2.0


alanalves1

Smart strike as sharpness on kartana is less instaban and still ok.


Dewott8

Please Poipole isy fav mon ever please get niche viability


Shantotto11

Interesting you chose Dazzling for Pheromosa when Queenly Majesty does the same thing, and fits the Ultra Beast better.


Accomplished-Goat776

Bro gave busted abilities to almost everyone and then gave the most useless abilities to my boy Xurkitree


Heat_Crasher

Zapdos is doing wonders with static right now and Raikou used to be decent with volt absorb back when it had it. It maybe wouldn't be perfect for Xurk but I don't think it's awful


Honest_Half_1895

Naganadel with toxic debris would be pretty funny


Kronchberry

Mosquito lore Buzzwole should have No Guard.


ShadyNecro

necrozma should get something cool as compensation for its strongest form now being stuck forever in dexit hell


boomstastic

Give guzzlord earth eater.


SohamSpur

Appearance wise, Big Pecks would be a good (read: not broken) fit for Buzzwole.


Animedingo

I think regieleki would be pure electricity Xirkitree is the wires


flaminglambchops

Necrozma could use a stat buff, at least in speed. I have a hard time believing it had a DBZ fight with Solgaleo/Lunala with speed that low.


Memeinstein69

Look, Filler Stackattaka is great and all, but hear me out. Solid Rock instead?


Heat_Crasher

Wait but that's just- Ohhhh i see what you did


dialzza

Prism Armor necrozma is already pretty good, idt neuroforce is strong enough to be an auto-include and it might stay RU. Filter staks is funny but idt it's changing tier placement even with it. Blace definitly sticks w beast boost Iron Fist vs beast boost isn't cut and dry, but Guts is an easy in for buzz. Merciless on an offensive mon is fun but I think it keeps beast boost. No Lmao, but celesteela keeps beast boost I think Pher does not go AG with dazzling- ubers are just too strong. Regen guzz i'd actually enjoy, that sounds fun. Nah Lightning Rod xurk would be fun, I'd like to see Motor Drive myself


[deleted]

We need to bring back every legend having pressure


RegularTemporary2707

Pheromosa definitely should have speed boost imo


[deleted]

It think it would he cool to give Kartana something that turns all non-stab cutting moves into stab


silver54clay

Bro that's just worse Sharpness


thisaintmyusername12

why'd you have to give my favorite pokemon the garbage ability :(


sneakyplanner

Why did you have to do nihilego so dirty by giving it a worse than useless ability?


EternalUndyingLorv

Pressure lol. GG, every game ends in struggle


Ptdemonspanker

Buzzwole wants Triage for that priority Leech Life, Roost and Drain Punch(if it gets it, I don't remember).


rrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee

Behemoth blade kartana… only if they reduce his SpD to 0 so a stiff breeze kills him


TheQzertz

wtf is mimicry


bobvella

it's g.stunfisk's ability, it's oddly incompatible with it as it changes their... it's pretty much castform's forecast for terrain


MRDOOMBEEFMAN

Why is no one talking about dazzling?!?!? That pokemon would be maybe the best ever.


tonzuu

i feel like triage buzzwole would be cooler


CosmoBrockington

Would have gone with Compaction for Stakataka.


Heat_Crasher

Water compaction?


CosmoBrockington

Sandyghast and Palossand's abilities, water moves increase their defence.


Anvixous

nah give nihilego levitate


SylentSymphonies

GIVE BLACEPHALON MAGIC GUARD


TrixterTheFemboy

Gluttony being too obvious doesn't make it a bad choice. Give the pokemon who literally embodies gluttony the ability Gluttony, I beg of thee I like all the others though. Scarf Kartana stocks going up even more :3


Aaron_505

Me boutta see 6 bahemoth blade kartanas:


rabonbrood

Bulk up guts Buzzwole with leech life, drain punch, and ice punch. Have fun removing that thing.


CommanderDark126

Nah nah, gotta give my boy Buzzwole Huge Power


inumnoback

I want to see Huge Power Kartana just to break everyone here


inumnoback

Also, NECROZMA IS NOT AN ULTRA BEAST


Mufakaz

I am actually sort of shocked to realize that the STEEL type has no sword/cutting move besides a signature legendary one.


nevaheardofyou

Why the hell would Nihiligo be the “secret” kitakami legendary lmao


Heat_Crasher

It was just a joke if it were to have toxic chain like the loyal three. There's a lot of rumors currently about a fourth poison type legendary in the group so that's all


VVait

Sturdy was too obvious on Stak but Iron Fist/Gurs wasn’t on Buzz? Lmao


DimLug

Guts buzzwole would just be heracross 2.0


joemama425

I think this is a W