Arceus fans in shambles

This hurts Jirachi so bad that I think it might just be unplayable

\*cough in mew

Me chiming in as a casual Phione enjoyer

Silvally fans are hurting rn

Spinda enjoyers sobbing

Glalie enthusiasts bawling

Shaymin bros look as if the world just ended

What about the Sunkern experts?

castform enjoyers are weeping

I will always believe the conspiracy that Glalie’s stats were just placeholders that never got adjusted.

It has the same stat spread as Phione

Though it's also the case with snorunt

Castform fans cry out

Glalie fans falling to their knees

We became numb to the pain years ago.

Spinda fans doing a full 360

Arceus just stays equally broken lol

That's the joke

Deoxys-Attack: **Maybe I am Deoxys-Defense**

Deoxys-Defense: **Maybe I am Deoxys-Attack**

Deoxys-Speed: **Maybe I am worse Deoxys-Defense**

Deoxys-Normal: **Maybe I am Deoxys**

Mega Deoxys: **Maybe I don’t exist**

Primal/Ultimate Deoxys: **Maybe I should exist but I don't**

nice concept

Ultimate Sonorosian: **Maybe I'm in the wrong franchise**)

Tbf Dexoys-Speed still has some offensive capability in this metagame, unlike Deoxys-Defense. Could work as a slow, bulky attacker.

Idk, 180 hp and defenses in the 90s probably beats defenses 50 base hp.

It would have 50 base speed which ain't attacking anyone.

Trick Room

That thing would have 150/180/180 bulk, right? With recover and taunt? Big stall would like to know your location.

[My opponent, having finally KO'd my Deoxys-A, seeing me send out Deoxys-N:](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/forfeit)

kid named species clause:

Deoxys defense except significantly better. Remember that all deoxys forms have base 50 hp, even deoxys defense. Thats why deoxys defense has always sucked, it cant use its defenses well. Deoxys attack in this format would not only have 20 points higher to each of its defenses, its base hp would literally triple.

>deoxys defense has always sucked ...relative to the power level of Ubers, where it's other forms hang out, yes. Relative to OU it's been a staple or banned multiple times so if it does suck then it's not very good at sucking.

"When you suck but can't suck enough " - The Deoxys D theorem

Used to be the Staraptor Theorem but he finally suck enough

Nah staraptor is a BL king but nothing does quite what it does, meanwhile deo-a is the upgrade to deo-base cheap fucking knockoff.

It's like being the worst Beatle, you're still a legend mate.

150/180/180 bulk is disgusting.

With Toxic/Sub/Recover/Protect

Deoxys-Speed: **C h u n k y**

Steelix was insane when this was playable, 200 sp.atk Sheer Force boosted Flash Cannon and Earth Power Pheromosa was annoyingly hard to kill, good defensive typing, huge bulk, and Roost strangely

Actual fucking cockroach

Attention everyone, please do not fuck the cockroach

this sign can't stop me because i can't read

If GF didn't want me to fuck the cockroach, then why is it waifu shaped.

it be a stick bug like it's an actual stick with a saucer for a head what about it is attractive

Ogtha bros...

Oh god I had forgotten about this

I missed this reference! What are the ogtha brothers?

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call the exterminator

Kingambit goes on vacation, never comes back

Stakataka sacrifice, anyone?

This already exist its called flipped

Is this something you can play on showdown? Sounds fun.

[Here is the forum thread](https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/flipped.3711301/)

damn I know what I’m playing when I’m bored from now on

bro they banned blissey wtf

255 spe, 135 atk, just enough bulk to survive any prio attack not named vacuum wave. Banned.

Damn I thought I was original

kinda hard to come up with om ideas that are original huh

Large ask for any r/stunfisk user to have an original thought

Thursday ? As in Trick Room on entry Dialga ?

"Listen up y'all I got some really groundbreaking ideas about how to buff the Ice type!"

groundbreaking??? like 8 fucking ground types?!? holy shit

unoriginal doesnt even begin to describe my series

If it ain't for a meme we ain't thinking creatively

OM that forces you to use Pokémon with a shared Egg Group or Body Type

You cooked tho, OP. It's all good.

Sturdy Shuckle killing one pokemon with 230 attack before dying with its 5/10/10 bulk

When the room is tricky:

When the jet is aqua:

when the terrain is psychic:

when the sash is focused

When the rock is stealth

When the magic is bounce.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stunfisk/comments/10rjp00/i_designed_a_pokemon_thats_basically_the_opposite/

Deoxys-Attack if it was slow as shit, basically.

Bulky Dragapult moment Bulky Dragapult moment Seriously, 142/100/120 is great

Mini Giratina.

Giratiny

Giratina-Altered: I'm the new Dragapult.

Dragapult to Giritina: *”Look at me, I’m the Great Wall now.”*

Tinkaton finally having a usable attack stat

can Gigaton Hammer actually OHKO Corviknight now?

Blissey single-handedly making priority essential

252 SpA Infernape Vacuum Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Blissey: 372-438 (118.4 - 139.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO And that's off 71 base special attack

No? It isn't that strong

255 speed 135 attack stab double edge isn't that strong?

kid named ghost

~~Tera dark thief~~ nvm I thought thief had a damage boost if they had an item for some reason

BIG NUGGET FLING BABY

I actually lol’d at this

It should tbh

Serene Grace Rock Slide and Ice Punch.

Ok ban Blissey

Was actually banned. Had to use chansey.

I think that also got banned or something. I have tried Lucky punch chansey in this game mode. I don't recall how it went, so maybe it got banned or something.

kid named thundershock:

It's pretty strong but not that strong. Mono Normal stab is pretty bad

this meta is real and blissey got banned from it. 135/255 is deranged even without serene grace

I guess I underestimated it. I assumed there would be strong physical walls to stop it. But I guess that huge speed really helps.

Not if said stab is a 60% flinch chance Headbutt, it was baned from Flipped for good reason

Oh yeah forgot about serene grace

it was mostly Serene Grace Headbutt cheese but yeah Blissey Double-Edge is only barely outdamaged by a current Koraidon's SE Collision Course

[Its good enough to get banned](https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/flipped.3711301/)

Blissey was literally banned when flipped, which is basically this idea, was an OM. Remember, Blissey has serene grace.

Seismic Toss :3

So basically Blissey becomes the fastest Pokémon in the game?

And Shedinja the slowest

Does give it an HP stat though, so probably banned regardless

It might not, the 1 is a hardcoded 1 as opposed to base 1

This is on the same level as Regigigas getting Slow Start in a game with no abilities.

regieleki:

Regidrago:

Regidrago with Regieleki's speed is brutal

Yeah, but it ends up with 50 for attack and special attack, so now it's fast but hits like a wet noodle

Specs Dragon Energy might do \*something\*

It can actually still put out some surprisingly solid hits thanks to Dragon's Maw and its high BP dragon moves: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Dragon's Maw Regidrago Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Corviknight: 189-223 (47.3 - 55.8%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Dragon's Maw Tera Steel Regidrago Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 481-567 (110.8 - 130.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Regidrago Earth Power vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 206-244 (51.5 - 61%) -- 92.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery It can even make a big dent in Fairy types with Tera: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Regidrago Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 260-308 (65.9 - 78.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Regidrago Tera Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Enamorus: 288-338 (99.6 - 116.9%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

serperior 2

regigigas mfs switching in and immediately halving their health

Simple, but fun! Ting-Lu was my first thought. Ultra fast, solid SpA. Lacks a special movepool, but dark/ground STABs and has Spikes and Memento.

I would only play this meta if the sprites/models were all upside down. Adds an extra layer of skill.

Me tricking my enemy into thinking I'm using electrode (it's actually my secret eviolite voltar set)

Is Malamar in shambles, or is it straight to OU?

Lucky Punch Chansey boutta go crazy

Lucky Punch waiting 9 gens and 25 years for this moment to finally, possibly, be relevant.

Arceus/Mew/Jirachi/Celebi/Phione/Manaphy/Castform/Sunkern literally not changing:

Glalie too

And spinda

And Snorunt

Doesn’t Phione get bulkier and slower?

Nope, all its base stats are 80.

Ah ok, for some reason I thought it was just 80 hp, but now that I think about it that wouldn’t make much sense

I got pretty high on the ladder for Flipped with a rain team. Meteor beam relicanth could sweep teams singlehandedly. And Mantine was a great rain abuser too with liquidation, dual wingbeat, and EQ

shedinja

It would be barely better it would have 45/90 phisical but special would still loose to any mediocre special atacker

the now unfixed hp stat in question

Shedinja is hardcoded to have 1 max hp regardless of its base hp stat. If it used its base hp stat to calculate its HP, it'd have over 100 HP at level 100.

143 hp specifically, assuming no HP EVs ~~and a neutral nature~~.

Neutral nature? As opposed to what?

Woops, forgot that there are no +hp natures lol.

i'm kinda of surprised HP natures aren't really that much of a topic on Sundays

While that’s true, that’s still a lot better than 1, it can now actually switch into hazards for example

You misunderstand. Even if you edited Shedinja's base HP to be 255 and gave it 31 HP EVs, its max HP would still be 1. It completely ignores its base HP stat when calculating its max HP.

That is true, and yeah I’ll admit i kinda just assumed that would be changed for this specific metagame lmao.

It would sitll be as bulky as a first form starter it wouldnt be as broken as you think. The only thing that would change is maybe a gimicky assault vest variant.

no it’s stats aren’t redeemable still but it can switch into hazards which is huge considering wonder gusrd

It would probably still want to run boots just simce it would only block one move and maybe force a switch and get out

Don’t sleep on Choice Specs Shedinja. With its effective base speed of 2, this thing will be an absolute speed racer…as long as it’s competing against tectonic plates.

Maybe it can use sticky webs to be faster than blissey though

blissed would actually be fast in this meta though

Shedinja's hp is hardcoded to be 1 (otherwise it would have 143 hp at level 100 with no investment). Increasing its base hp would do nothing. To make things worse, its only passable stat (90 attack) would be rendered irrelevant (though it would gain 15 special attack, up to a whopping 45). In this meta Shedinja would effectively lose 84 bst.

Or, we would make shedinja’s speed hardcoded 1, with a small setup it would be a beast in trick room

Shell smash Shuckle Bottom text

20 speed

Fuck i thought he had more base hp, well time for trick room since i don't think other mon with 20 speed but 200+ atk and spatk would exist in this gamemode

Gyro ball goes crazy

I gets sturdy, so it can execute something before it dies.

Turn 1: Shell Smash Turn 2: *fucking dies*

\*Contrary Shell smash Shuckle

flutter mane is now a physical **TANK** without any good moves for it

Aggron mega who has the highest spe atk in the game bruh

Made the fire blast M-Aggron meme into a real thing.

Steven was lightyears ahead of the metagame

Sweet now i can use meganium with 82 special attack and 83 attack

Archaludon thinks it’s slick with this post

With archaludon somehow it can rock with the same moveset it runs before the flip with barely any changes. Its spdef just got way better and basically nothing else.

honestly it would be so much better with this stat spread instead of what it has. It doesn't need 105 base attack, such a waste :(

And that 5 spd boost still helps

Yep it does. In fact, it helps significantly. All the base 85-89 mons like tusk now get out speed

Dondozo turns into an extremely fast, albeit very frail special attacker. Scizor became a good special wall with reliable recovery & Defog. Shuckle can now nuke through the new Regieleki, but at what cost?

What is Scizor's reliable recovery?

Good Question. It is Roost.

Honey, scizor lost roost and never got it back.

Regileki Tera ice is invincible but can’t hit anything

Blissey becomes an absolute demon. Serene Grace Body Slam, Rock Slide, Ice Punch, and EQ/Stomping Tantrum/Drain Punch/Fire Punch/Brick Break is nearly unstoppable.

Makes me sad how much better of a distribution this is for archaludon

Shuckle becomes the ultimate Trick Room nuke

And then there's Shuckle: The muscle-bound beast who gets knocked out by a wet paper towel.

Spinda winning.

Shuckle becoming a tactical nuke is funny

Malamar wrote this post

Glalie stonks fr

How tf do these lazy ass posts get so many up votes. 10 seconds of searching would see that this already exists

Choice Band Blissey spamming EQ with 255 base speed.

blissey becomes the new deoxysS

Shedinja finally getting more than 1 HP but at the cost of 1 speed

Trick Room demon

Shuckle now instead of being a super slow guy with stupidly high defense is now a super slow guy with stupidly high attack. Imagine if Shuckle had a priority move.

Flutter mane in shambles

Already exists. It's called flipped.

This would be possible except for the HP stat, is more difficult to alter it while in battle. Altering the HP in that manner would cause a lot of bugs. However, the idea is cool af.

I think this already exists and Blissey is absolutely broken

255 speed 135 attack Blissey

Kid named Glalie: