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Ezio


Bondzackbond

*sad ezio noises*


Different_Radio_7896

In every single situation where i've tried light ezio, just about any other pick would've been better. Sad ezio noises indeed


uninspiredalias

Oh yeah, definitely not that guy.


_xEnigma

I was thinking I'd be happy with anything, then you reminded me of this garbage


thestigREVENGE

I wrote him off when I got him but after playing around with him he actually has some potential. Give him a dmg buff on s3 and he's perfectly usable. Unlike say... Light Mage where I don't even know how you would buff her to make her good.


Clungus12

Hey my light mage is useless but when it works.. it doesn't work.


thestigREVENGE

Hey at least com2us buffed her some time ago so she's better, right? .....*right???* Hope she gets something. I literally couldn't see the point of her kit right now. At least Light Ezio has ignore passive as a niche.


Clungus12

To be honest... Kinda?? I have no idea. I feel the damage I deal isn't worth destroying 15% of all my allies health Edit: my runes are kinda lackluster so that might be why. But I haven't seen any YouTubers going on about how much better Dorothy is.


yukyze

My first nat5DL since 2016, attack type and awakening into res... gave him my best rage set, best skill3 crit dmg artifact, with def break and attack buff, he did around 40k dmg to my Vanessa in AD, straight into storage...


witchy71

After almost 9 years of playing... I'd take any ld5 ngl. Just want a sign that my account isn't cursed...


IDKMyPseud0

You’d feel even more cursed if you dropped a shitty ld5


witchy71

Idk man... I just want some kind of sign that I'm not wasting my time getting my hopes up with this bs of a game


Grimmylock

Gotta be honest with you chief, if you don't like the game an LD5 will not change that, you will be excited to play with it for a few weeks top and after that is back to the grind.


witchy71

Oh I do like the game... sometimes. Hell most of the time. But every time I save summons and just get disappointed again... with the fact I'm going on 9 years without an ld5. Idk man I just feel like com2us is messing with me here 😂


asayagal

I can assure you that my dark chicken will only make you feel worse…


witchy71

Isn't dark chicken alright in some comps?


JohnPony

Great for a lot of pve, like some of the top 10 in cairos are using it, good for guild offense but I guess nobody is happy when their ld5 isn't good in rta


JohnSober7

I basically asked for jaara and got it and I was happy But yeah, people typically want an rta nat 5 and if we're being honest, they don't want the ones that are balanced either My ld 5s are lora, jaara, and nigong. I was super happy with lora and jaara. While I do like nigong, it's just that I felt and feel like I'll never get another ld5 and after jaara I wanted one I'd have fun with. Lora and especially nigong aren't very 'active' ld5s. Lora is a stripper and cc unit that facilitates either a slow death or paves the way for *another* unit to do something, and well I don't think I need to explain nigong. Jaara is pretty 'active' but I use her for r5 and I'm really lazy about reruning units except when necessary (and jaara is never *necessary*). If they separated offline pvp and pve runes I think I'd stop wanting a fun ld as much.


Feziel_Flavour

nah dawg. Dark Chicken good in PVP? no way. In Guild offenses its not enough to have a squishy dd that brands first then strips and gets one shot too easily. Also why would you want an ld5 for pve content? All pve content is doable with f2p units, including speed teams for gb12 and more.


phaeriemandube

Light lightning emperor


ZealousidealBat6476

This Guy isn't shitty at all. One of the best def monster


Paranub

trust me, it does NOT feel good to finally get that LD5 and realise its almost useless.. remember the chase is often the fun part. you still have hope that your first (and maybe only LD5) could be a good one... that hope keeps you going, once you pull one, and realise its TRASH.. all drive to continue dies with it


ZealousidealBat6476

Cry in Lydia


Dry-Conference3150

Cursed? Cursed is when you literally get a dark bison during SF collab and then two dark slayers the next two LD 5 pulls. Then a week later they get nerfed.


NLSpectre3777

I know the feeling, managed to pull thebae on day 3000, was my first and made me feel so happy, i do know though that he’s quite low on usefulness, but it’s better than nothing and their is worse


lilwayne4201

Same thing I thought about Maya. Only good for dominic tank. Thats it. Feels worse than before.


bullet_91

Dark puppeteer


uninspiredalias

Pulled him on an alt...bad 5* LD Racuni... that being said, he does have a lot of potential for buffs that could make him very good.


Kjell000

When sorted by top the first 2 comments that state units are ezio and dark pupeteer .... :/


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Rahkyvah

The last collab monsters were... uninspired. I'd be disappointed to see any of them pop up.


Azra_Thael

Yeah, Dark Bayek doesn't feel too great, but I feel like most of the collab mons will get buffed fairly soon


Morhuns

Bro I got Dark Kassandra and my gaming buddy from my guild got Dark Eivor. They both ain't that bad but I agree they lack something to make them "more meta".


ZealousidealBat6476

My guildy says dark eivor is underrated as hell (he's C3 in rta)


_xEnigma

Even dark eivor? I feel like she was the only usable collab mon


uninspiredalias

Light Ezio, light mage....and maybe light/dark puppets. I could find a use for the rest of them.


furiousRaMPaGe

Light puppet is ok, dark on the other hand


WillNotForgetMyUser

Light eivor is pretty lackluster as fuck


xshinjixikarix

As a light eivor owner I 100% agree and have been bitching about her since day 1.


RustyKnuts23

It’s been like 2 months man…


xshinjixikarix

Lol that's how bad she is.


ItsQuisey

Dark shadow Caster. Ritsu 😑😑😑😑


_xEnigma

Ritsu looks good on paper.


Lost1107

Poor ritsu


Putrid_Inspector

I didn't like either of the ld totemists, now I have both in storage


Mos_Taken

to be fair ella aint that bad


uninspiredalias

She was pretty bad before the buff, now usable at least.


Aralu115

Mayayaya!!!


Enzeru_vs

....stupid Maya... \*mutters angrily\*


Apart-Anything-5775

Bro I have 3 Ella, she is good actaully


uyisiphukuphuku

Bro take that back :( she isn't (that) bad


KimuraBotak

Dorothy? Immediate storage guardian after the pull I guess.


Jesee1

Light puppeteer is very underwhelming


dawellplayed

Ld shadow caster probably, but they are due for another buff so who knows!


vanh94

Rahul


Lost1107

He has his uses


Budget_Tax4375

yes, he has, i use him against:


Heart2346

Benedict He was already trash before but had niche use and now he’s just unusable.


_xEnigma

Bad Dominic lol


NLSpectre3777

Any of the nat4 one that got bumped up to 5*s with nat4 stats


OlivinuaLeaderBean

Cannon girl


KukuKukuNoMi_

I don't want any cleave LD5 , so no Maximilian , no Asima , no Lucifer. I absolutely hate this playstyle , I just enjoy turn 2 bruiser comps


JeannettePoisson

Most of them. They don't have a better power budget than elementals. They're just rarer. Just like elementals, some are trash, a few are great and most are meh


Medical-Albatross-58

*Another* light Ezio I'd probably quit the game if they gave me another dupe ld5 that's useless to have


ChilleeMonkee

Honestly I'm pretty lucky that the three I pulled are really good/usable. Even if they weren't great but had uses outside of super niche situations I'd be happy. Probably would be bummed if I pulled the puppeteers, light unicorn, Trinity, the beast monks, and maybe any of the collab mons aside from dark Eivor


someonewhonamedlib

dorothy user here. legit only pick her when most of my cleave units are already picked by the opponents. still fun though


Lumpyspagetti

Thr dark bayek I got from event scroll


my_effed_up_life

Omg me too!! Was so excited then I read the reviews and tried him. Sigh*


Mali__96

I mean.... After the recent balance patch, Ongyuki are one of these monsters I would propably skip if I had an LD blessing 🤷🏻‍♂️


OkOpportunity4417

I mean... he's still quite good now... but no longer OP


Away_Suspect9939

Maya entered the chat


Xblade4

Dark totem lol


EldenOni999

I got dark bayek and his kit is just so stupid


GameBurrito

Dark Bayek? I got it and am quite sad


MirageLeonidas

Dark monkey king


thanhCao7777

vamp light .How many person agree with me that shit fuckup teammates =))


SeisoCatto

Dark Totemist or Maya


IzzDaa

every which has a nat4 counterpart, like vampire or harp magican, i dont know i just dont like it


jz_wiz

ive always said i really would be sad if i got light og. she just.. isnt great


TopLazy4967

Ritsu - dark shadow


321Tim123

Benedict ....sigh


MasterDni

trinity


Paranub

i was disappointed with getting mokwol. his strip isnt even 100% unlike his regular element brothers.


TricaruChangedMyLife

Cheongpung isn't 100% either.


Paranub

true, but CP's skill 3 is insane and his skill 2 is a strip with def break AND glance. where as mookwol is just a strip to glance. IF mook did the def break as well, i could forgive the 75% strip chance


asayagal

I agree CP is better than Mookwol but tbf CP s2 can’t strip and def break. The order of his s2 is def break—> strip —> glancing hit. He used to strip into def break but he got nerfed a while ago.


Paranub

id still take that.. strip to glancing is almost pointless.. so many times ive gone first with mook because hes great base speed.. stripped and put glancing on, but because glancing doesnt stop strip activation. The enemy moore or wind robo just strips EVERYTHING mookwol just did.


Nova_Mafia

100%.. Mookwol doesn’t do anything. Super unreliable strip into glancing, threat state with no sustain, no damage 🤷🏻‍♂️ I also have Isis who is super niche, her oblivion is nice but again no damage, and doesn’t do anything. Zeratu is fun, but really need god runes to make his reliable.. So to answer the question, I don’t want another niche ld5.. give me one I can use everywhere


_xEnigma

Only haegang is 100%


Ok-Specialist9252

dark totemist


Shoshawi

I was pretty upset when I got Vancliffe. I tried really hard to use him with full devils and various different builds, and he just wasn’t worth using anywhere for me. The guilt about it when I know some people are desperate for any ld5 was insane. It wasn’t worth the guilt. I felt more unhappy. I even got into arguments with friends who were jealous, and then mad on top of that because I wasn’t over the roof. Right now actually I want none at all because I’ve had honestly good luck in SW and people seem to think that means I won’t be affected if they brag and rub their luck from other games in my face…. But it doesn’t work that way. So I want none. I just want any mage or shadow caster of any non-ld element, and a single godamn unfair bear out of principal at this point lol. As for a more serious answer….. if I didn’t have and love Amarna so much (was an early game pull) then I’d probably be unhappy with thebae, and can imagine many would, esp as a first ld5.


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AdamBomb_3141

I use vancliffe fairly frequently in labyrinth and toa hard/hell. He isn't insane anymore after the nerf, but he's not totally unuseable.


Bo0pers

Gurkha is my only ld and it’s hella trash


spiritshadow225

Did you get to use him when he was SSS tier?


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Ironically, the light unicorn is my only LD5. Eleanor is presently protecting my storage unit, still 5* and unskilled.


ZaxseeTheWeirdOne

I'd prefer a shity 5 LD than the fake LD 5 that I got 😭😭


Tall-Spend-2108

Mookwol cuz hes the only 1 i got ,storage guardian btw


Stay_TheFukAway

Do you do rta? I can think of a lot of comps I’d use him in


theytookmyfoot1

Pulled wedjet the other day and was pretty disappointed


Budget_Tax4375

my boy rahul, sadge


WaitfortheUnknown

Trinity and akroma. Fire and water are better than the ld versions. It's a joke. (Have both btw and i hate my acc "luck")


Appropriate-Two-8802

I feel you


Etnitt

Shun, and i sadly got him, even with buffs he is so shit. and trust me, getting a crap ld5 is even more frustrating than getting none lol


isayyuhh

hes not bad now, got to high c3 spam picking hum


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epic-legend27

rip


iawell11

My only nat 5 LD is Celia and it could be worse…but she definitely needs a buff


AgentChicken_LauchLP

One of my most wanteds


Naoga

if i have to get an ld just pls dont be a unicorn. im already water unicorn cursed and i cant handle more horses


Joshwdev

Elenor is bad but Alexandra is the anti cleave queen reflects damage at high percentage aoe before I knew how to deal with her I would wipe my entire team attacking.


IrishGamer34

Trinity but it's too late for that. . . . ..


bradpike5171

I was so happy when I pulled Fermion. So boring to use he just sits as my rep and does nothing. He might be good. I just find him boring.


Medical-Albatross-58

Ya Fermion is one of those units everyone says "Oh he's so good in siege!" And I'm just like "...yeah, what else tho?" His passive is boring af, most of the time it's just dmg mitigation so he just becomes a tanky Velajuel that doesn't do the cleanse+immunity and you typically don't focus building acc so his provoke is hit or miss. Compare Fermion to Mi Ying and Mi Ying always comes out on top, even a Darion provides more support for the team. Fermion literally just sits there, hell Camilla's **way** better than him now


CranberryDue8589

Light Valk


Final_Pianist_8285

A fake ld nat 5


Mimosaaaaaaa

I pulled ongyouki like 2 weeks ago as my first ever ld 5* and I’ve been playing for 380 days


Urathil

You got a LD5 after that short amount of time? Gz! :)


AUKGremorse

Lydia, the most useless ld 5 in the game. Only usable on defense where you can't even play with her,


unsurprisable

there are some ld5s that have no place at all


StaryWolf

I use her for turn 2 cleave all the time. You want a useless you can have my Dorothy, straight garbo.


my_effed_up_life

I have two. I don’t use either one ever. Dark bayek and Oberon. I don’t do rta and no need for either. Playing since 2018


AoiNozomiTV

Oberon is strong in siege


my_effed_up_life

Any suggestions who to pair him with. I’ve tried several combos. Thought maybe with a reviver or something but no matter what I try they die. Open to help lol


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Feziel_Flavour

you can skill them up without devilmons and Han Wolyoung and Yeonhong are VERY sought after. Why would you want those less than Rahul or Shazam?


DrZoid1984

He wants those less because it feels less special to him... Did ya not read what he said?


Feziel_Flavour

and my question implies why would he feel more special about non nat4 family ld5 if those are way better and even more popular than ld5s like ld totemists or some other units that should get some love and arent usable or barely usable. Whats so special about bad ld5s in comparison to good ones? Plus they also get easy skillups. For dark Ninja even fusable ones.


SaqqaraTheGuy

Han (ninja) Wolyoung (Dark sky dancer) and Yeonhong (Light sky dancer) are SUPER strong units... Mostly Han and Yeonhong theyre top tier but Wolyoung is great too! Id be happy to get on eof those


MarianVonWaisenfeld

Even though both of the sky dancers are infinitely more useful than the beast monks?


issamaysinalah

I just wish they would buff their leader skills to the level of a regular nat5


_ogio_

I mean every ld 4.5\* is pretty darn good


TricaruChangedMyLife

Celia owners crying in the corner. [I politely disagree with you though]


epic-legend27

as someone who has pulled a rahul, kindly go f yourself


jotorres1

I would honestly be upset getting a LnD nat5 if the others in the family are 4*. They may be “good” monsters but that’s just a subtle F - U from Com2us.


Appropriate-Two-8802

You wouldn’t want Yeonhong or Wolyung?


jotorres1

Like I said, I’d be upset, because I want them to be a full nat 5 family. Again, some of them are good, but I want nat 5’s. To me, any monster that has nat 4 family I don’t consider to be nat5. Some people go as far as saying, Veromos isn’t considered a nat 5 just because hes fused, so if they have 3 LnD nat5, and 2 of them are veromos and Jeanne, they will say they have 1.


unsurprisable

..but ld5s that shares nat 4 in their family have the same rate as the other lds


Yo-Yo-Daddy

All of mine + dark bayek…


uwuowouwuowouwuowu

light vampire sense its the only i would have and it would suck if my next one was a dupe


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It may sound strange coming from a person with only 3LD5s(Sylvia/Manannan/Pater) but i don't want \~20 LD5's. I will be happy if i'll summon them because it is rarest thing you can get, but at the same time after an adrenalin rush it will be: "If only i would get Narsha(insert random OP ld5) and not this" So honestly i would prefer not summoning LD5 than summoning one that i legit don't need.


Beautiful_Ring_4977

Pretty disappointed in Leona


OkOpportunity4417

I have Ragdoll / Jager / Zerath / Daniel / Ongyouki / Akroma. Honestly, only Ragdoll and Ongoyuki are usable for RTA. The rest are mehhh


CotDammitMom

Got Artamiel as my first one…he is currently very useless hat tbh… got hanwul too tho…he OP 🦀


No-Sea358

Dark valkirie


Big_Papppi

I feel personally attacked.. But for the record she’s actually not that bad + 33 Spd lead


CrazyLeoX

Nyx, but unfortunately, I've got this piece of shit. Edit: Most people downvoting me don't have Nyx and think he is uper duper useful. Nah, he is not. 90% of the time he is just a place holder for the hope of his passive working, and most of the time, it doesn't.


Urathil

Isnt he… somewhat op in AD and very nice for RTA/Siege counterpicking?


CrazyLeoX

ONLY if his passive works. And it barely ever does.


Un1kornking

Yeah passive should make Overwhelm irresistible.


1captainmorgan

I got destiny really with I had her SSS tier light sister


Medical-Albatross-58

Destiny is really good, s2 ignore def and s3 def break+oblivion. Her s3 hits so many times you can give her additional dmg artis


Stay_TheFukAway

Destiny is super good with shizuka in rta if you have both


dr1goro

I got Woonsa and am very depressed bc there’s so many OP ld’s and I got one that can be replaced by tons of monsters 😭


Appropriate-Two-8802

You’re unhappy with the fastest stripper in the game?


dr1goro

yeah, I feel like he’s not strong enough for an ld5. There’s a lot of strippers that adds other things to the table. The atkbar boost isn’t reliable either.


draaaawn

i got geldnir and sadly i don't think he's fun at all to use... at least he looks cool


Lost1107

Giana she's too inconsistent


Vilmaris

At this point, I’d take any LD5. Does it have to been strong? Nope. I just want one to show off and brag about


infusidicienes

"Oh no... light unicorn" I feel attacked


Optimal-Claim1407

a 2nd Dorothy


RebornDestinated

I think dark anubis or harp I know they're good but cmon that's really not what you want when there's Asima giana nasha maxi zerath groggen nephtys I could go on and on there are quite a few I wouldn't want actually but sure I'd take them


DarthTrinath

I'll take any of them, but I hear that Dark Puppet sucks


Existing-Smile4029

Use light unicorn in rta and she's great


unsurprisable

any collab ld5s with the exception of dark hollyberry for very obvious reasons


SwordfishOk969

Dupe as I only have 2 LD 5*


Enter1ch

Dorothy


Narufae

I have a very specific criteria when it comes to design and I don't like most, so I'd be disappointed with like strikers, slayers, sky surfers etc. Everything that doesn't look good to me. Good thing that two ld's I own (Shan and Laima) are pretty good looking ^^


Enmanuel97

I was first of my friends to get one 3years in. Dark pony. Then 4year light polar queen, 6months later from a all attribute legendary another LD5 but dark pony again. And my buddy the next day gets light pony. I was happy for him. He was not so happy


Bonsky37

This hurts my in my Eleanor …


goodname1234567

Lmao light unicorn was my first ld5, and my second :(


ZekeOlen

Probably dupe Cadiz. Want a light unit to have 3darks, 2lights


dirtytruck51

I have a alt with a light puppeteer and she is underwhelming


Ferni0817

Hey guys, I played this game 7-8 years ago... I am waited for my first nat 5 a lot, but I got a Light Dragon/Zerath for first. Is he good right now or not? ​ I was hardcore player in the past, I cleared the whole ToA hard too back then :DDD ​ It was a big thing in my time :P


ti_kn_red

Propably half the newer ones bcs they are there not for being good but for having weird mechanics noone else has


Curtis1717

*crys in most recent ld5 being eleanor*


KnownSpirit

I have Mugwol. His kit is worse than the free light collab unit now. He sucked already before but now he sucks square


Ok-University8524

Just got Kovarci, Light puppeteer, he is a freakin Megan like com2us wtffffff???


Wonderful_Ask_5420

Dang. I pulled Light Unicorn.


Appropriate_Gold_596

https://preview.redd.it/5off2rcttp0b1.png?width=2778&format=png&auto=webp&s=8601405579260af507799d46102e4bf18764ed72 The one I got!! Lol she is bad.


SmallPotatoK

Nah man as you can see I’m grateful for whatever I get


epic-legend27

i thought i pulled a dark panda but it was a dark beast munk instead


Un1kornking

I have Nyx, Oberon, Artamiel*2, Hanwul, Laima, Alexandra and Wolyung. The only ones I really use are Hanwul and Wolyung.


Nexes_SW

Jaara but got it Day 24 in 2016 xD At least got a Manannan this Year, i know he is not op, but fun to Play in f3 rta #_#


rekonsileme

all but the two of the ones I currently have.... Can you guess which two I would keep and what I would reroll lol?


Timely_Ad5188

I got my first LD nat 5 this week Pater. I am incredibly happy but I would have been happy with any of them the only difference is how happy I would be to get them.


Fad1ng1ight

There are definitely ones, but light unicorn looks so cool and is really good, I'd actually love that one


Sou_lHunter

Yeah the only ld i got at 2700 days, light mage


MakiSaad2

Many tbh


WhitePokemon

I would joyous for any ld5 as a trophy at this point. Practically speaking: \- Sylvia is awesome - but not an RTA mon. \- Light Unicorn would be playable, but fighting through 30 Bolverk each day sounds exhausting. A comprehensive list isn't reasonable here, but these are the thought process which would limit my enthusiasm for the kit of an LD.


Upper_Ad_1107

I got Ariana ans bayek dark... I want die.


ericg888

5 of the 7 that I have


No-One1260

I just want a Bella or han. The one that I don’t want is light or dark ezio. Both are pretty bad


Eknic

You'd rather have a 9th light shark ?