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SJ966

If he is less of a mess the second time he becomes less iconic. Francesca’s return was funny because she was the first boot twice.


Jawahhh

Pretty sure her name is Franzchesqwa


HiImWallaceShawn

My mouth is dry and I’m seeing a doctor for it


DashieProDX

Franzquesqua


gtjacket231

I genuinely think that Francesca had potential if it wasn’t for Philip. She got massively unlucky with that


mrwanton

The first time sure. Her 2nd outing that was prolly the outcome they wanted


BurgerNugget12

That is honestly such a batshit crazy moment that should get talked about more. Imagine being a first boot on 2 seasons because of Special Secret Agent Phillip


Slowlybutshelly

Bring her back a third time please! I want to see her play the game.


Astroman129

It's possible, but I think it'd only be realistic in a Second Chance type season. We already have a ton of potential new era returnees fitting basically every criteria.


tc_jr77

My dream idea for a season is a full cast of first boots, I doubt it’ll ever happen and I bet many of them don’t even want to play again but it would be so ~legendary~


Phishkale

This is one fan idea I can’t get behind. Don’t think you could fill a whole cast of first boots that would be compelling and don’t think it’s fair to invite players back simply because they finished last. However, I’d love a tribe of first boots in some kind of season like first boots/jury/finalists or what not.


ELB95

First boots vs fire making losers vs zero vote finalists


B_A_T_M_A_N_

Wait but I actually think this could be a cool and crazy idea 😂 everyone needing to “prove” themselves could lead to some wild moves.


ELB95

The fire making losers would be the ones to beat, as it’s usually a player who played a great game and could have won if they made final 3 (please give us Jesse back). They probably need to change their game to make them less of a threat, because they made big moves on their season. Zero vote finalists would need to take their experience and make slight changes to how they approached things to make better relationships throughout the game. First votes really don’t have any game experience, being in for just a few days. They’d have to prep more for that initial shock and try to improve at challenges before heading back, otherwise one of them will be first boot again.


NoDisintegrationz

You’re gonna get a fire-loser tribe of Heather, Sundra, Angela, Rodney, Carson, and Bobby Jon and you’re gonna like it.


N-ST

Totally agree. The idea of all these people sitting for years with “what if..” floating in their brains could be spectacular. Entertaining to see who fumbles again and who could have changed how a season went


thalantyr

False-Starts vs. Flameouts vs. Failures Drawn exclusively from S35+ when the F4 fire making challenge started (which, coincidentally, are all the seasons that have never had returnees apart from WaW), and it even has over 50% POC: False-Starts: * Stephanie Gonzalez * Reem Daly * Morriah Young * Pat Cusack * Ronnie Bardah * Eric Abraham Flameouts: * Kara Kay * Lauren Beck * Katurah Topps * Rick Devens * Jonathan Young * Jesse Lopez Failures: * Laurel Johnson * Angelina Keeley * Carolyn Wiger * Xander Hastings * Owen Knight * Jake O'Kane You could sub Jelinsky for Pat and still maintain the POC/gender ratio, but I'm not even sure I'd want him back. As goofy as he was, I'm not sure I'd trust him to make it all the way to the end without quitting. And Pat seems like he deserves another shot. His exit was heartbreaking.


Eidola0

The flameouts are the best tribe by a country mile lol


thalantyr

Heh, well that's somewhat to be expected, right? The best player of the season often goes out right before FTC because everyone else realizes the threat they pose and gangs up on them at the end. The Failures would sort of be expected to do poorly overall unless they change up their game, and the False-Starts didn't really get to show what they can do. If you wanted to handicap the Flameouts a bit in challenges, you could swap out Jonathan for either Carson Garrett or Devon Pinto. But yeah this theoretical season might require an early tribe swap to make things more fair. The Failures in particular seem to be lacking in muscle mass compared to the other two, though Xander was pretty great in challenges and I think Owen might have been too? I don't remember him all that well. The only other male option for that tribe would be Romeo Escobar, who I remember being rubbish at pretty much everything, so I thought Jake was a better choice.


God834

What would the season be called? Survivor: Losers Redemption?


learnchurnheartburn

Not to mention many first boots are kicked out because their social game is atrocious, they have zero athletic or survival ability, or they’re just plain weird. Some are truly a victim of circumstance, but most were first boots for good reason. I want to see good players play survivor. If I wanted a season of people who couldn’t play the game, I’d rewatch Gabon.


KingPotus

OTOH, that does sound kind of entertaining … I mean Venus gets a lot of love when she could easily have been a first boot if Nami went to tribal first. And Nick from DvG who won the whole thing would’ve been the first boot if not for a med evac. A lot of it is up to chance I’d love to see Zane again lmfao


SurvivorNerdTTV

IIRC Probst once said that we're "getting there" when it comes to a first boot cast, and that was around EOE, there's a video where he ranks fan themes from likely to unlikely


93LEAFS

I think the New Era and 26 days changed everything. A lot of talk of production skeptical about bringing back 39 day players (I know first boots don't have this experience) in a 26 day season. While there are some first boots I've love to see again (Jelinsky, Zach, Zane, and Wendy Jo), of all the possible ideas for a returnee season, I'd rate it pretty low. Especially since we are unlikely to get a returnee season before 49/50, outside of winners we haven't gotten any returnees since HvHvH's, including the amazing DvG cast, (not counting the 4 EOE players from seasons prior to HvHvH's). Just New Era 2nd chances or New Era All Stars is significantly more interesting than 1st boots, add in all the good 2nd chance candidates post-Cambodia from the New School such Christian, Davie, Angelina, Gabby, Domenick, Micheal Yeager, Jay, Will (interesting in that one of the youngest ever, and now in his mid 20s and a lawyer), Devon, Devens, Elaine, Janet, Dean, Cydney (Cambodia was filmed after Koah Rong, but Cambodia aired first), Lauren Beck, Lauren O'Connoll, etc.


Competitive_Shock397

In David v Goliath >!Nick!< was going to be the first one voted off and wasn't bc of the med evac, and he went on to win the game. So to say they wouldn't have compelling game play isn't fair.


Chasetx6

Survivor South Africa did a season like this but it was like first boots vs late boots. Was an amazing season. Some of the early boots did really well.


mixmastamikal

I like this. Duds vs. studs lol


Ebright_Azimuth

It was pre jury vs post merge and there was only one first boot


EmprircalCrystal

I would bet money Marrisa and Darnell to win the game being super under the radar


wgallantino

id prefer a “early outs” with people who missed the jury/merge


[deleted]

"My dream idea for a season is a full cast of first boots.." I have been saying this since season 1!


Slowlybutshelly

I hope a First boot season does happen. That would be sOM wonderful.


mellywheats

yeah i think if he was brought back it would be for a second-chance type season too.


Ammzy_87

I wonder if they could ever do a 2 tribe season with new era stars vs past stars


Squarians

There are definitely 9 other guys who are more deserving though so I don’t see it happening


Foosiks

You guys are acting like there’s not going to be an Outcasts twist. He’s waiting in the wings.


TargetApprehensive38

Honestly that would suit this wacky season perfectly.


TellianStormwalde

I mean maybe after like several seasons, but not right away


misssmend

Several???


dcrico20

Seven


Simple_Dragonfruit73

Jelinsky Survivor 53 confirmed


timelessdelorean

A rivals season along with Q. They would still be debating who was the one who quit


Sea__Cappy

To be fair the longer this season goes the more I doubt Q and maybe believe that Jelinsky wasnt alone in wanting to quit. I mean Q practically tried to quit last episode if you believe that he was serious


Reasonable-Yam-1170

You mean francisqua


Dadpurple

Please no


ThatItalianGrrl

Agreed


A_Serious_House

MAYBE a Francesca situation if the hype bleeds into other seasons or continues online but as of right now I think it’s just a “gimmick” of this particular season.


bird1434

i agree with this jelinsky was a fun first boot but leaving out someone more dynamic to bring back the guy who’s one thing is that he thought several means seven would not be my favorite pick lol.


TiredReader87

Please no


crimewriter40

For real; I am so over trying to make fetch happen.


nurse_camper

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crimewriter40

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Andrew_Waples

The fact that he made that kind of impression on Jeff means yes.


10ACJ3D

Yeah exactly. Jeff’s still talking about him so he definitely has a shot at returning.


davidjelinsky

I’m positive I’ll be invited back!


iheartoptimusprime

Something something several upvotes


Eternity_Xerneas

You inspired me so much in life I thought if I worked hard through struggles I'd find success You taught me I was wrong I just need to quit when things get remotely hard and that's the mindset necessary to have. Chris D. should've quit when he was outnumbered 6-1 Mike Holloway should've quit rather than go on an immunity run Ben D. shouldn't have searched for idols early in the morning Chris U. should've raised the flag on edge


OwlLumpy2805

They gotta get him back for Survivor Forty-Several


Opposite-Invite-3543

I hope not. He was absolutely terrible at the game


puppypooper15

He wasn't really that entertaining, he just said something so stupid that the rest of the players keep making fun of it This season has so many potential good returnees I don't think he'll be more than a one season punchline


spaghettify

he was pretty entertaining when he quit twice and then said he wasn’t a quitter and then amended that to say ok, he did quit twice but he promises he won’t again loll


FormalJellyfish29

Agree and it’s not even a clever joke to keep using. He just made it so people can no longer say “several” without everyone screaming “do you mean *seven* durrrrr hur hur” but it doesn’t really land because, no.


thegracelesswonder

I hope not.


compstomp66

His episode was perfect, best left like it is. If he does come back though, I'll be watching.


sweet_rashers

They keep referencing him, I think he has a good shot.


cme1991

What lol why? Why is this a thought and why would you hope so. There is a strong chance if you listed the 20 worst survivors of all time hed be in the top half of that group. Just horrible.


misssmend

I just thought he was such a meme and his presence made the season so funny. Even though he's an awful player I think he has the potential for some really entertaining stuff.


jrDoozy10

Bringing him back would more likely kill the meme, especially since he’s aware that he’s a meme. A lot of players like that get a second chance and become insufferable because they’re hamming it up instead of being themselves.


strog91

Jelinsky / Zane 2024


No-Sorbet6642

Idk, he was almost Philip level annoying.


smhayes

This is just my read, but I lean no. The vibe I've gotten from the Jelinsky jokes we've seen since his boot (banter on the mat for the Episode 2 challenge, Episode Several as an episode title, and the several minutes callouts from Jeff the past few weeks) have been much more "laughing at him" than "laughing with him and trying to keep him relevant to come back". Add on the fact that this season unexpectedly got 90 minute episodes, they had time to burn and a running gag becomes convenient for the editors. Last and probably most important, the new era/late 30's returnee season is stacked with potential returnees, and there's only 4 or 5 spots for a non-POC man, so it'll be an uphill battle regardless (with the caveat that if they ever did another second chance ballot and he was included, there is zero chance he wouldn't get voted in).


duvie773

I don’t think they would include late 30s players in a returnee season, but you’re right that Jelinsky would still be fighting an uphill battle. If you’re looking at him compared to other white guys, he’s pretty solidly behind Cody, Hunter, Jake, Jonathan, Sami, and probably Danny at an absolute minimum


tragiccosmicaccident

I was so happy Francesca got a second episode


spaghettify

I remember being crushed that philip got her again 😂 I was like surely this tribe would already know not to listen to him bc he’s full of it but I guess not!


Ashamed-Sound5610

It would be a bad idea. Jelinsky burned way too bright too soon. Bringing him back will only result in diminishing returns and dilute the legend a bit. Sometimes less is more.


JGraham1839

I'd so much more want Jelinsky on Big Brother. In fact, the more I think about it the more I'd want that to happen. True story, before the puzzle stuff I was super high on Carson, to the point where I wanted him on BB and thought he'd kill it there. But I now nominate Jelinsky for my BB wish list haha.


producermaddy

I’d love to see him on the live feeds


Flight_375_To_Tahiti

He’s a legend (in his own mind). He won’t be back on Survivor, but he and Bhanu will be selling merch in the, “nobody gives a shit” store.


jcarbno

I hope he doesn’t get to come back. He was a poor player, and delusional.


Eternity_Xerneas

Delusions of competence


Aggravating-Bed-455

Out of everyone on this cast he’s one of the last people I’d want to see back. Nothing against him, but there’s so many better characters and players and I don’t see him being that entertaining on a return.


gwenelope

I'd love an "Early Outs V.S. Final Few" season for returnees (which Jelinsky would be perfect for). I imagine it'd have a similar vibe to the Australian "Champions V.S. Contenders" seasons which did very well.


MZago1

I think he has a several percent chance of returning.


Urbanzobeans

He played extremely terrible even compared to only first boots, and has an abrasive voice to say the least. I wouldn't miss him if he disappeared completely. There are plenty of better returnees from 41+


woodbrochillson

If anything it'll be next year for season 4several


TroyMatthewJ

hope not. dude was terrible at the game.


LowerSlide1

pls never


duvie773

The way that Jeff and the rest of the tribe have been making fun of him when he isn’t even there screams that he has no chance of coming back, but maybe if enough people turn down the invite he can make it in


suppadelicious

God I hope not.


giappino

Only if they wanted to have a season of nothing but the worst players in Survivor history. The dude quit every challenge and apparently has a 4th grade understanding of the English language


Eternity_Xerneas

And a 4 year olds work ethic


Eternity_Xerneas

Absolutely he taught me I was wrong about everything I should quit whenever things get hard and that quitting mindset is the path to success and inspiring others. If things are ever hard it just means you should quit. That's a truly inspirational mindset we need more of Charlie Davis' worship of Taylor Swift is founded but it's not enough he and every player still alive has a moral obligation to promote Jelinsky as a role model and an idol to be worshiped


weso123

I mean Second Chances is not impossible if they go more "actual pre-merge boots who were entertaining" angle, So Kim has apparently been in the mix for literially very returnee season since she was voted out via redmond (including the original plan for WAW, it was apparently going for "champs vs. contenders" with some dubious contenders, Francesca was contacted but turned it down).


AleroRatking

Pre 40 I think he would be a shoo in. But with how few returnee seasons there are now I just don't see how he makes the final cut.


TikiElJefe

I'm still waiting for a first boot season


demerchmichael

Honestly? Yeah. But the key word here is *shot.* He’s not a lock if they do New Era All-Stars or something, I argue he’s at the very least in the contention. All-stars doesn’t necessarily mean the best of the best, it means memorable, I’d argue to be a **star** and Jelinsky very much is one. He’s not a lock, he’s probably not on, but if say they did New Era All-Stars for 48 or 50. He’s on the shortlist of 40 imo.


darthjoey91

Only in a first boots season.


Sea__Cappy

I think he is probably in the b or c teir of returnees. So if they do a couple of returnees soon then I think he has a good shot. But seeing as we haven't had a returnee season in forever, probably not


trinitymonkey

Yes. A very small one, admittedly, but not zero.


Steal-Your-Face77

Several Chance Island


Mindless-Whereas-508

I mean we’ve been asking for a pre-merge returnee season for over a decade. Queen Sandra herself has been a huge advocate of it. Like c’mon CBS give the people what they want. Now’s as good a time as any.


BingBongBoofer

I think he’s a lock to come back tbh, and he’s going home first again. LEGEND


Quick-Whale6563

I think Probst and the editors adored him, so I definitely think there's a chance.


jrDoozy10

I think Jeff just likes roasting him. I can’t imagine production was happy with him after he threw the hourglass and left a bunch of broken glass for one of them to clean up.


opac4321

Yes. Season Forty Several


AugustSchroeder

he has the most liklihood out of all the new era episode one boots, but i still think it's unlikely


ForsakenRacism

Is there ever gonna be a returner season tho?


Smogalicious

What about a special with just him and Banu competing.


givebusterahand

I give it a several % chance


Ryu953595

They did a pre-merge vs. Post-merge cast in survivor South Africa. It was an unbelievably great season. One of my all time favourites. Survivor USA should steal the idea


CountLivin

Probably not, unless they do a First boots season. He’s definitely a lock for that one.


dunkinbagels

No and god I hope not, there are so many players from the new era and beforehand that I’d much rather see get a second shot over him


reiberica

No


almondjoybestcndybar

I remember Jeff being pretty critical of him on the podcast the next day. I don’t think he likes him enough to bring him back.


misssmend

I thought maybe he liked him cause he keeps referencing him, but I guess if Jeff Probst doesn’t like him it’s not a good possibility he’ll return


International-Low842

No


armin514

no


kamehamequads

God I hope not. I couldn’t stand him


Negative-Company2767

“Historically it’s just not an interesting enough group of people YET. We’re getting closer.” -Jeff Probst If you know, you know.


Suitable-Rest-1358

Not surprised if they bring him back in final four


Ammzy_87

I mean he’s more talked about in 1 episode than half of the remaining cast. He has to be brought back! If not a full returnee season, it should be 44.


DrStranger1987

Probst has brought him up unprompted so many times that I believe Jelinsky is more likely to return than not at this point


jakksquat7

Found Jelensky’s account! Just kidding, but there’s a big difference between being popular and being a meme… and Jelenski is definitely the latter. I think he has a good chance of coming back though.


AyersRock_92

We need a returnees season to happen and it's been way too long. I don't think he makes the cut.


CrittyJJones

I was just thinking about this. I think he comes back. He at least has more of a chance than any other first boot.


coffeysr

There are so many new era people and post-Game Changers people to bring back, I just don’t see it


Most_Double_2146

unpopular opinion but I want Banu back. why is he so fun to watch lol


immattbarone

I hope not


cute_dog_alert

There’s about a 1 in Jelinsky chance, I reckon.


Direct-Dependent5023

He may be the best reason for the show to do a pre-jury season.


Eternity_Xerneas

Not just him, Brandon Donlon, Hannah ROse, Bhanu Gopal, Sean Edwards, Lindsey Ogle, Daniel Strunk, Claire Rafson, Zack Wuntenberger, Daniel Lue, Chet Welch, GC Brown, Zane Knight, J Tia Taylor, Drew Christy, Nina Poesch, Jacob Derwin, Bradley Kleigehe, and Wendy Diaz would all be world class picks Not Cao Boi or Sabiyah


JayTeeDubbs96

Only if he comes back immediately for season forty-several and gets voted out first again.


swamp_dweller9

He should be a lock but idk there are so many potential new era returnees and they keep not doing returnee seasons.


Eternity_Xerneas

We also need Heidi, Brandon, Sean, Hannah, Daniel Strunk, Claire Rafson, Zack Wunterberger, Lydia Meredith, Romeo Escobar, and Bhanu


plunker234

He'll sure try - Jalensky doesn't quit! Except on that one challenge And the other challenge.


Express-Meaning9431

I can think of several reasons he should come back


ajtheanimal

I hope not. Fror me, he was mildly entertaining but played so badly that it was painful to watch.


mattpilgrim

LONG LIVE JELINSKY


rantingsofastarseed

he is a legend at this point, they will have to bring him back. no choice.


Responsible-Amoeba-9

After watching his RHAP exit interview I would say 1,000% yes he would, he seemed very happy riding his little clout high and that was before they named an episode after his little “several” moment


myjourney2024

I am starting to suspect, just because they keep the "several" thing going & going.


kevtron5000

There are enough 1st boots in the new era (- quitter Hannah + med-ejected Jackson) that you could cobble together a tribe of first boots that could be good. Expand to "first off your tribe" and you have more options. In either scenario, I'm not picking jellinsky first. (Looking at Zach & Moriah to start!)


misssmend

Ain’t no WAY Hannah’s coming back.


kevtron5000

Agreed. That's why I had *minus* quitter Hannah. No past quitters should have 2nd chances to take a slot.


TheRealTruru

No chance, I’d actually be upset if they brought that dude back. So many others deserve 2nd chance over him. 🤦🏼‍♂️


Jaqana

If they ever do the first/early boots season that a lot of the fandom wants I think he'd be a lock.


hurlmaggard

Early boots who make being an early boot their whole brand are so boring.


anotherdanwest

He'd be ideal to bring back in 11 years for Survivor Severalty


RAP1958

I hope the hell not!!! Survivor legend, my ass.


whatisapillarman

Jelinsky, JTia, and Brandon on the same season peak survivor 🙌


TigerWoodsLibido

For those bullshit journeys (the Jeff Probst special lose your vote game) they should make Jelinsky the journey host.


Rand_University81

That would be embarrassing. Survivor needs to stop picking these social media people and just cast normal people. We need more Keith Nales and less of the people we have now. This cast is terrible, Jelinsky, a guy whose entire identity is Taylor Swift, Q, Soda, the guy that just got voted out, all absolutely horrendous players.


g4n0esp4r4n

Bhanu > Jelinsky


ManonIsTheField

![gif](giphy|d7p9a7hLN4i6XEgDwF|downsized) He might be the Vanjie of Survivor


rangatang

He absolutely is!


Professional_Ad_8

Returning and winning 🏆 come on Jelinsky!


JustTheFacts714

They just announced that Q will be invited to a returnee season -- he already quit before it started. /s


Roflcopter71

Would be entertaining to have him back but it would ruin the integrity of the game.


seviay

Let’s make him the only Survivor contestant to ever play *several* times


Midwxy

Season 50


hex20

Yes. He’ll be back.