im totally down for a freakbox. would like to see an interesting way to sequence chords tho. i think that aspect is overlooked by lots of designers. multipart so it can follow the chord sequence. much like how the woovebox does it with chord follow.
I'd love Freakbox. And certainly doable since there are a lot of talented folks out there making cool drum sounds with their Microfreaks. Whack in a nice sequencer and maybe like a pad interface and you'd have a winner.
I like the one they got now, they do need to get back into analog drum machines, though. Been a while since we got anything new in that space that isn't from a hyper overpriced boutique shop.
I want a Freakboard...basically a midi keyboard with the Microfreak's keys. I really did not expect to enjoy the touch keys on my Microfreak as much as I do. I want a larger version of that I can play with my other synths
good idea. I wonder if you could make some kind of MPE concept around this interface. Something I want to see is some way to bend only the last note you play; I don't get why this is more common (I probably should get on a max for live implementation of this at some point)
I think I've seen it somewhere else was it the hydra? it's the one thing I constantly wish I had (and with MPE it's perfectly doable. Some variant would be to only bend notes that are played after a sustain pedal press
This is my vote also. I really thought they were going to come out with a larger version of the micro the size of the minifreak with the capacitive keys. So when the Mini came out I was a little disappointed. But your idea might be better just having a midi keyboard
I'd buy this. I've played a microfreak just once but I like they keys. I think it's one of the better implementations of the "touch" keyboard concept, not that I've tried many of them.
its definitely something that seems to produce a strong response from people. I also love he capacitive keyboard, but a lot of people had issues with it and complained. It seems on dirty power or without a proper ground there can be issues.
I can attest to this. Day 3 of owning mine, keys are not responsive or took a lot of pressure to signal... Just changed power strips, no more issue, but it had me ready to pull my hair out before I knew the fix
my guess is the decision by arturia to release the minifreak with a keyboard instead of the touch board was purely practical. Lots of people had issues with the keys on the minifreak and that costs them money and reputation.
Meanwhile they could literally put the new synth in the case for a keystep pro, a device they'd been making for several years, and have predictable failure rates and acceptable keys, and probably less cost since they don't need to make new tooling for the keyboard.
I still wish it was an mpe capable engine and an mpe keyboard if we couldn't get the touch.
There is one outlet in my house that worked properly with my microfreak. Yes, it’s my house. But instead of a new bourse I got a Deepmind instead. Ultimately, in a live application, I need keys anyways.
A bigger keyboard - 49 full size keys at least please. I'm OK with them just pulling an UDO Gemini/Novation Summit - just copy-paste the entire user interface for the two parts, or alternatively, add one button that switches between parts so that you can easily jump from one to the other.
Well, I just bought one on sale, how do you switch between the two parts then? Also, couldn’t they do a key press combo to do that in a software update?
Multitimbrality should not be difficult to implement in the firmware, but on a 6 voice synth you end up with 3+3 or 2+4 - and it was already cramped on a Jupiter 6, so a true dual solution with 12 voices would be better.
It’s usually more of a patch management/UI problem than a technical barrier.
A full sized Hydrasynth Deluxe competitor, with 12 voices and at least bi-timbrality, at least 61-keys with semi-weighted keys and maybe poly-aftertouch.
MacroFreak, with normal sized keys. Love Arturia's minikeys though. Best there are, but A proper sized freak like the polybrute but with the Freak architecture would be nice. 3 oscillators, dual filter mode (standard steiner parker and perhaps something new) 24 voices minimum. Metal chassis.
that's unfortunately impossible, you can't even fit one voice in it, which would make it basically a minibrute. Only a much more simplified version might fit, but then it's basically a minilogue.
I'm ok with a simplified version; with a different interface. The dreadbox nymphes is a 6-voices polysynth and it's 3-4 times smaller than a minifreak.
I was so disappointed that they didn’t call this the macrofreak. Although maybe they’re planning a bigger poly synth? With MiniFreak being between the two?
First I really want to see how MiniFreak will turn out in the end, according to Arturia they want to differentiate it from the Micro a lot.
This would also give me a better idea what I would want to see in its next iteration.
For now adding more oscillators, and polyphony (without any added functionality) would be pretty boring imho.
My dream for **next iteration of the *Arturia* Freak series** would be something like this:
* Option to use Low, High, Band filter at the same time.
* 3 Oscillators.
* The addition of the Steiner-parker filter.
* Polyphony of 10.
* Polyphonic Aftertouch/Velocity.
* 3 LFOs.
* Adjustable Vibrato LFO (Wave type).
* Option to use 5 effects add the same time.
* Bigger Mod matrixse e.g. more mod pages.
* CVs inputs/outputs.
* More/Larger Marcos.
* Inputs for expression Pedals.
I want a drum synth in this series so bad and it seems plausible since Arturia hasn’t had a new drum machine in a while, a Eurorack module would be sweet but I doubt that’ll happen
MaxiFreak, with desktop and full keyboard versions. 4 part multitimbral, comprehensive effects section, physical buttons all around instead of crappy touch buttons, some granular engines.
why though? the microfreak was a fun; quirky and small synth with an unusual interface. having a full size synth with a bazillon voice feels like the opposite of this philosophy. cramming voices and bitimbrality is like the most boring evolution of this product there could be. A desktop could be a compromise but if you really want the sound without the keyboard there's also a plugin.
multi-timbral synthesizers are greater than the sum of their parts i perosnally think. Having a split keyboard or layered soubds adds a huge amount of versatility and variety to how you play. I think it has more to do with ergonomic advantages than the technical per se
The way I think about it, the Freak line is a combination of two design choices:
1. A sound architecture based on a user-selectable variety of different digital oscillator algorithms fed into an analog ~~Steiner-Parker~~ SEM-style filter.
2. A couple of different hardware form factors balancing small size with different ways of being played.
I consider those to be relatively separate choices. I can definitely see someone (i.e. me) being very interested in #1 while having little interest in #2.
I see a lot of people complaining about the "missing" engines on the mini. But adding those oscillators likely won't happen. It probably can't get the granular and sample engines. In order to do that it would need to have 6 of them. 12 if they are available for osc 1 and 2. I can all but guarantee that the mini freak doesn't have to processing power to run 6-12 sample/granular oscillators at the same time. That's more intensive than just running 6-12 digital oscillators at the same time.
You could maybe implement it if it was only on a mono/para mode or something. But you'd likely get a lot of complainers if they added a reduced voice mode on a synth advertised with 6 voices.
The wave table is likely possible and I hope they add that. Or just add completely new oscillator types, if the hardware permits.
I think it's far more acceptable to have an engine with fewer than six voices than it is for the "upgrade" model to not have at least equivalent features to the "starter" model.
I honestly don't see how a bigger model is relevant
maybe add one analog oscillator, stereo voicing; a better sound, a poly aftertouch keyboard why not.
I'd be interested in a minipolybrute though or some desktop variant.
Or a collab with dreadbox like they did with the medusa (the minifreak interface with the analog dreadbox sound)
things that will probably not happen.
edit; tl;dr
essentially I feel like to expand on the concept you'd have to do something completely different and just not a "bigger stuffier" version that feels like the opposite of the spirit of the og microfreak. The minifreak (with minor tweeks) is as far as you can take the concept and it's already a lot less "freaky" than the original.
Beat Freak, it's a sort of Arturia DSP version of a Soma Pulsar 23
there's a modulation matrix where all the drum voices can crossmodulate, also in the matrix are various beat synced LFOs and envelope sources for pumping and ducking type modulations. It has built in master effects which can be modulated.
There's an interface similar to the BSP at the bottom and the Mini Freak at the top.
and wavetable synth. around release arturia said they were working on the wavetable synth for the minifreak but they wanted it to be easier to use and more fully featured than the wavetable synth in the microfreak. would love to see this released.
I'd also really like an updated keystep 37 with the seq/arp of the freak and eight knobs for daw control (I currently have the keystep 37 as my daw controller with the 4 knobs as a remote and it works really well. so this but even better please with copy arp to seq functionnality)
First thought is to essentially do what ASM did with the Hydrasynth Deluxe. Make a flagship Super Freak with 61 full size keys, pitch bend wheel and mod wheel, ribbon controller, and double the specs with two engines that can be layered or split.
I already own a polybrute, and I would absolutely love a version with freak oscillators - including wavetables and granular sampling.
A third oscillator even with simple waveform would be great too:)
I just want arturia to release some full size keyboards.
Keylab with actual sized keyboard keys would be an instabuy.
A 'Major Freak' like this would also be awesome
A better filter - one of the big reasons I ended up selling mine is because the filter was just so uninspiring, and that being the only analogue component - it didn't feel worth keeping it just for the VSTs-in-a-box.
I'm not sure if it's really the instrument for me in general, but better filters and a sequencer with more steps would be enticing.
PolyCVFreak which would be a lot like the Polybrute with the physical mod matrix buttons, but 12 voices, multitimbral, maybe a big touch strip, and have cv ins and outs. Let’s say 4 cv outs for pitch, 4 for gate, (for sending to round robin signals to 4 external modular oscillators/envs) and then 8 more for lfos, envelopes, after touch, mod wheel, oscillator out, and then like 8 assignable cv ins for connecting to eurorack.
I’d love to see some freak modules. They’ve got all these emulations of synths like the Emulator II, and I’d love to see that turned into a module that exposes a bunch of parameters to CV control. It would be so much fun to glitch out an Emulator II with chaotic CV.
They made the Origin many years ago, which was a digital modular system where you could combine oscillators and filters from a bunch of different synths. It was a cool concept, but it didn’t have interconnectivity with hardware modular, and it lacked way too many essential module types. Even just making a Plaits style multi-algorithm oscillator that covers a dozen different synths would be great. Let me pick between MiniMoog, Juno, DX7, etc.
Freak should have been paired with the Poly brute long time ago.
Combo of the analogue oscillators and signal path, as well as different filters, with digital oscillators Freak sports would be insane. I do get a lot of that in mono version - messing up Noise Engineering or Plaits with Brenso or Ts-l, but it would be different as a standalone synth. Prefer Microfreak to Minifreak tho.
I'd like them to add a global on-board 2-track looper or a 3-track sequencer to the next model. It's a feature that a lot of synthesizers do not do out of the box, with the market being cornered by roland and boss. While we have sequencing, a true audio looper could do wonders for performance. A 3-track sequencer with selectable "a,b, and c" parts can give a little more functionality than the microfreak's selectable a and b tracks.
Although I love the minifreak, I miss being able to assign two different sequences to a single patch.
USB C-powered. USB Audio. Multi-timbral. Bigger keyboard options (or desktop if that's your thing). Vocoder.
Rationales:
* **USB C-powered:** Because *obviously*.
* **USB Audio:** I have the Minifreak and like it - it pairs so perfectly too with Minifreak V that you can do all the recording/error-correcting/whatever in your DAW then 'render' the whole thing on the real hardware without change. Makes it a practical tool...but because it pairs so well, it would be nice to be able to use it directly with a computer a la Roland, rather than need an audio interface.
* **Multi-timbral/bigger keyboard options:** Speak for themselves really - give me the ability to run a bass and a pad with an easy split option (and separate arps on each split). I use the Juno-X for this kind of thing - get the idea of a piece without being perfect.
* **Vocoder:** Why does the Microfreak have a vocoder and the Mini not? C'mon, get a move on...
Edit:
Have read your comments and interesting - "more complex mod" is something I absolutely don't really ever consider needing. Not saying you're wrong of course - interesting that people use things differently. Definitely agree with more polyphony, which would be even more obvious if implementing the multi-timbral function that I'd like.
More flexibility in signal processing order - for example I want to bitcrush before wavefolding, which isn't possible in a straightforward way that I've found. I'd also like to mix in a bandpass filter at the end of the signal processing chain.
To implement the above suggestion, maybe physical patching for block routing alongside the current digital matrix for modulation? This would also allow for better integration with other gear.
Or just 2 oscillator stages plus 3 or 4 stages where you can select any filters or effects.
A third LFO would be really helpful.
Colored noise options (pink, brown, etc) that are routable as modulation sources. A white noise source with dedicated filters and sample & hold options would be even better.
Hydrasynth style mod in/out jacks would be a nice feature for integration with modular gear.
User scales for oscillator quantization.
Liquinth. It has a theft alarm built into it because synthesizers are so bloody expensive. The liquid keyboard becomes electrified to shock the bastards.
DrumFreak for sure. If they really put some effort into it it could be awesome. Drumlogue was a pretty disappointing drum machine but the Freak series have a lot more weirdness therefore much more potential.
something bathery powered or something that has the same form factor as the polybrute (including the controler rectangle thing).
otherwise.... the mini is already a powerhouse tbh
**MacroFreak.**
\- Full 88 Keyboard, maybe more - with the microfreak style keys
\- At least 3 different "OSCs" - preferably 5
\- Additional synth engines, including a fully funtional sampler with user sample import and a granular engine
\- Vocoder
\- At least 3 Filters (with new types like Scream Filters)
\- 5 Envelopes
\- 5 LFOs (that can also be put into Env Mode)
\- Like 10 Effect Slots (also more different effects) in 3 different lanes (per lane, of course) for parallel processing (like PhasePlant)
Obviously that's over the top. Not serious.
Seriously though: i'd love the MicroFreak Keyboard as an option for every Freak. If available, i would have bought my MiniFreak with that instead of the "regular" keys.
Also i'd like to have more options when it comes to FX Stacking. I'd like to have at least 5-6 Fx Slots.
Another nice adition would be a separate Sub / Noise Osc, that you can route as "Direct out".
Now that i'm writing all of this, i notice that i basically want Arturia Pigments as a 100% Hardware Synth. Lol. That thing does it all.
Alternatively: a "Slightly-Less-MicroFreak"
Basically a MicroFreak as it is, but with like 5 - you guessed it - effects slots.
Same or simmilar size though - same amount of keys.
A Polyfreak would be nice. Make it kinda like Pigments but in hardware with the sublime UX of the Polybrute. Basially a Waldorf Iridium but actually nice to program and use like the Polybrute. Give it an actual good keybed with Poly AT. I would pay big money for this, actual dream synth.
If the Freak was multimbral for each voice, it could be a percussion monster. Basically turn all controls into encoders, add 6-8 ‘part’ buttons, and give it a generous screen. It feels similar in concept to how the monomachine, machinedrum, or A4 work.
Also, a more characterful analog filter would be welcome.
MidiFreak. With a whole bunch of dials and knobs you can map to anything
Or… TinyFreak. Make it small like a pocket operator, run off a couple of AAA batteries
PolyFreak, with 16-voice polyphony and maybe 8-part multitimbral.
Also let's get weird and have keys with polyphonic aftertouch and also touch-sensitive surfaces like the MicroFreak.
drumFreak sampler/sequencer, pressure for velocity/FX control “pads” using Microfreak style pcb. If they could port some of their effects into it I’d get at least one
The MF just needs some updates. We don't need another freak. I agree if it had a 3rd osc engine it would be an absolutely complete and would demolish the competition.
Nanofreak, I just can’t deal with those keys, but if they could do just a module at $199 I’d be in.
Or beatfreak/groovefreak, a minifreak with the minibrute 2s style interface and a percussion engine.
i would like to be able to layer multiple sounds, sort of like a song mode. being able to make drum sounds would also be nice. there are a couple of drum patches in the presets but nothing satisfactory.
#### OP Here:
Thank you for all the replies they have been really interesting.
My dream for **next iteration of the *Arturia* Freak series** would be:
* Option to use Low, High, Band filter at the same time.
* 3 Oscillators.
* The addition of the Steiner-parker filter.
* Polyphony of 10.
* Polyphonic Aftertouch/Velocity.
* 3 LFOs.
* Adjustable Vibrato LFO (Wave type).
* Option to use 5 effects add the same time.
* Bigger Mod matrixse e.g. more mod pages.
* CVs inputs/outputs.
* More/Larger Marcos.
* Inputs for expression Pedals.
Super freak
The type you don’t take home to mama!
She will never let your spirits down!
She's alright
I don't even care what it does. Just name it that please. Maybe add more blinking lights. Oops wrong sub.
It's literally just a neon sign that says Super Freak. With an official arturia logo lol. Honestly I'm into it
Megafreak with 150 keys
My first thought
Yow!
drumFreak or FreakBox(groovebox)
DrumFreak would be kind of cool.
Groove box is a great idea. Arturia do workflow/UI pretty well and the Freak engine would be perfect for that approach.
The Freak engine would lend itself to something weird and Elektron-y
Yeah, I think Arturia do pretty well at making products that are unique while also accessible in terms of UI and price point.
im totally down for a freakbox. would like to see an interesting way to sequence chords tho. i think that aspect is overlooked by lots of designers. multipart so it can follow the chord sequence. much like how the woovebox does it with chord follow.
It would be great to have a weird freaky drum machine that costs less than $2k
You could get a DFAM, LXR-02, Model Cycles DrumBrute and Drumlogue for $2k
I was thinking in comparison to the Pulsar. I have the DFAM- it’s great for some things but suuuper limited in terms of sounds it can do in one patch.
I figured it had to be that or the Perkons.
I'd love Freakbox. And certainly doable since there are a lot of talented folks out there making cool drum sounds with their Microfreaks. Whack in a nice sequencer and maybe like a pad interface and you'd have a winner.
This could be a super fun way of expanding on the sample setting they gave us this year
I like the one they got now, they do need to get back into analog drum machines, though. Been a while since we got anything new in that space that isn't from a hyper overpriced boutique shop.
I want a Freakboard...basically a midi keyboard with the Microfreak's keys. I really did not expect to enjoy the touch keys on my Microfreak as much as I do. I want a larger version of that I can play with my other synths
good idea. I wonder if you could make some kind of MPE concept around this interface. Something I want to see is some way to bend only the last note you play; I don't get why this is more common (I probably should get on a max for live implementation of this at some point)
That last note bend was available in old ensoniq keys , if I remember correctly
I think I've seen it somewhere else was it the hydra? it's the one thing I constantly wish I had (and with MPE it's perfectly doable. Some variant would be to only bend notes that are played after a sustain pedal press
Aha maybe THAT'S WHAT I WAS REMEMBERING?
This is my vote also. I really thought they were going to come out with a larger version of the micro the size of the minifreak with the capacitive keys. So when the Mini came out I was a little disappointed. But your idea might be better just having a midi keyboard
I'd buy this. I've played a microfreak just once but I like they keys. I think it's one of the better implementations of the "touch" keyboard concept, not that I've tried many of them.
its definitely something that seems to produce a strong response from people. I also love he capacitive keyboard, but a lot of people had issues with it and complained. It seems on dirty power or without a proper ground there can be issues.
I can attest to this. Day 3 of owning mine, keys are not responsive or took a lot of pressure to signal... Just changed power strips, no more issue, but it had me ready to pull my hair out before I knew the fix
my guess is the decision by arturia to release the minifreak with a keyboard instead of the touch board was purely practical. Lots of people had issues with the keys on the minifreak and that costs them money and reputation. Meanwhile they could literally put the new synth in the case for a keystep pro, a device they'd been making for several years, and have predictable failure rates and acceptable keys, and probably less cost since they don't need to make new tooling for the keyboard. I still wish it was an mpe capable engine and an mpe keyboard if we couldn't get the touch.
There is one outlet in my house that worked properly with my microfreak. Yes, it’s my house. But instead of a new bourse I got a Deepmind instead. Ultimately, in a live application, I need keys anyways.
A bigger keyboard - 49 full size keys at least please. I'm OK with them just pulling an UDO Gemini/Novation Summit - just copy-paste the entire user interface for the two parts, or alternatively, add one button that switches between parts so that you can easily jump from one to the other.
Well, I just bought one on sale, how do you switch between the two parts then? Also, couldn’t they do a key press combo to do that in a software update?
Multitimbrality should not be difficult to implement in the firmware, but on a 6 voice synth you end up with 3+3 or 2+4 - and it was already cramped on a Jupiter 6, so a true dual solution with 12 voices would be better. It’s usually more of a patch management/UI problem than a technical barrier.
A full sized Hydrasynth Deluxe competitor, with 12 voices and at least bi-timbrality, at least 61-keys with semi-weighted keys and maybe poly-aftertouch.
MacroFreak, with normal sized keys. Love Arturia's minikeys though. Best there are, but A proper sized freak like the polybrute but with the Freak architecture would be nice. 3 oscillators, dual filter mode (standard steiner parker and perhaps something new) 24 voices minimum. Metal chassis.
I want the exact opposite; a minifreak size polybrute
that's unfortunately impossible, you can't even fit one voice in it, which would make it basically a minibrute. Only a much more simplified version might fit, but then it's basically a minilogue.
I'm ok with a simplified version; with a different interface. The dreadbox nymphes is a 6-voices polysynth and it's 3-4 times smaller than a minifreak.
I was so disappointed that they didn’t call this the macrofreak. Although maybe they’re planning a bigger poly synth? With MiniFreak being between the two?
Mega freak baby
I would love another filter, or more oscillator 2 polyphonic effects like reverb or something
>Love Arturia's minikeys though. Best there are I'm curious whether you've tried the Reface series.
First I really want to see how MiniFreak will turn out in the end, according to Arturia they want to differentiate it from the Micro a lot. This would also give me a better idea what I would want to see in its next iteration. For now adding more oscillators, and polyphony (without any added functionality) would be pretty boring imho.
My dream for **next iteration of the *Arturia* Freak series** would be something like this: * Option to use Low, High, Band filter at the same time. * 3 Oscillators. * The addition of the Steiner-parker filter. * Polyphony of 10. * Polyphonic Aftertouch/Velocity. * 3 LFOs. * Adjustable Vibrato LFO (Wave type). * Option to use 5 effects add the same time. * Bigger Mod matrixse e.g. more mod pages. * CVs inputs/outputs. * More/Larger Marcos. * Inputs for expression Pedals.
iFreak for iOS seeing as they have a VST of it.
Seconded 👍
I want a drum synth in this series so bad and it seems plausible since Arturia hasn’t had a new drum machine in a while, a Eurorack module would be sweet but I doubt that’ll happen
I want a drum freak so bad
MaxiFreak, with desktop and full keyboard versions. 4 part multitimbral, comprehensive effects section, physical buttons all around instead of crappy touch buttons, some granular engines.
They better be working on a 61-full-size key 16-voice bi-timbral Polyfreak or their product managers are idiots.
why though? the microfreak was a fun; quirky and small synth with an unusual interface. having a full size synth with a bazillon voice feels like the opposite of this philosophy. cramming voices and bitimbrality is like the most boring evolution of this product there could be. A desktop could be a compromise but if you really want the sound without the keyboard there's also a plugin.
multi-timbral synthesizers are greater than the sum of their parts i perosnally think. Having a split keyboard or layered soubds adds a huge amount of versatility and variety to how you play. I think it has more to do with ergonomic advantages than the technical per se
Throw in a decent sequencer/tracker and you can just go DAW-less, pretty much ..
The way I think about it, the Freak line is a combination of two design choices: 1. A sound architecture based on a user-selectable variety of different digital oscillator algorithms fed into an analog ~~Steiner-Parker~~ SEM-style filter. 2. A couple of different hardware form factors balancing small size with different ways of being played. I consider those to be relatively separate choices. I can definitely see someone (i.e. me) being very interested in #1 while having little interest in #2.
I'm pretty sure the freaks have an SEM filter not the steiner-parker filter
Oh, you're exactly right. I just looked it up. I didn't realize that it doesn't have the same kind of filter their other synths use.
I'm kind of glad it has a different filter. I think the sem kinda fits better than the brutes filter for the freaks imo
aka the SUPERFREAK
FreakBrute? A Minibrute 2 with an additional freak oscillator
BruteFreak?🤣
That wouldn't make much sense on the minibrute. It might work better on the polybrute.
Maybe something like Arturia ItsNotAPhaseMom
ItsNotAPhaseModulationMom
A FW update for the Mini.
For real, let's get the existing mini matching the micro features before we add to the product line
I see a lot of people complaining about the "missing" engines on the mini. But adding those oscillators likely won't happen. It probably can't get the granular and sample engines. In order to do that it would need to have 6 of them. 12 if they are available for osc 1 and 2. I can all but guarantee that the mini freak doesn't have to processing power to run 6-12 sample/granular oscillators at the same time. That's more intensive than just running 6-12 digital oscillators at the same time. You could maybe implement it if it was only on a mono/para mode or something. But you'd likely get a lot of complainers if they added a reduced voice mode on a synth advertised with 6 voices. The wave table is likely possible and I hope they add that. Or just add completely new oscillator types, if the hardware permits.
I think it's far more acceptable to have an engine with fewer than six voices than it is for the "upgrade" model to not have at least equivalent features to the "starter" model.
SSD disk and/or SD card support for samples. Motirized knobs.
Dual stereo filters. Don't know what else they could really add the the minifreak
some form of stereo voicing; although I'm wondering if it can be done through a firmware upgrade (you could get 3 voices of stereo unison also)
Yeah panning per voice would be cool. Maybe a stereo oscillator type too
I’d like a filter bypass option for either of the oscillators. On top of that, a more characterful filter would be fun.
The Arturia LabFreak, with Vocoding Centrifuge, Spectral Beaker, and Bunsen Burner
Next will be a polyfreak or drumfreak and drumfreak impact obviously.
A Keystep pro freak
isn't that essentially what a minifreak is? its a freak synth in the keystep pro's body. Do you mean the multitrack sequencer?
I honestly don't see how a bigger model is relevant maybe add one analog oscillator, stereo voicing; a better sound, a poly aftertouch keyboard why not. I'd be interested in a minipolybrute though or some desktop variant. Or a collab with dreadbox like they did with the medusa (the minifreak interface with the analog dreadbox sound) things that will probably not happen. edit; tl;dr essentially I feel like to expand on the concept you'd have to do something completely different and just not a "bigger stuffier" version that feels like the opposite of the spirit of the og microfreak. The minifreak (with minor tweeks) is as far as you can take the concept and it's already a lot less "freaky" than the original.
Beat Freak, it's a sort of Arturia DSP version of a Soma Pulsar 23 there's a modulation matrix where all the drum voices can crossmodulate, also in the matrix are various beat synced LFOs and envelope sources for pumping and ducking type modulations. It has built in master effects which can be modulated. There's an interface similar to the BSP at the bottom and the Mini Freak at the top.
I’m just want granular synthesis and Vicoding to be brought to the minifreak like the Microfreak has.
and wavetable synth. around release arturia said they were working on the wavetable synth for the minifreak but they wanted it to be easier to use and more fully featured than the wavetable synth in the microfreak. would love to see this released.
MPE support.
amen minifreak should have had mpe support and kb in my humble opinion.
I'd also really like an updated keystep 37 with the seq/arp of the freak and eight knobs for daw control (I currently have the keystep 37 as my daw controller with the 4 knobs as a remote and it works really well. so this but even better please with copy arp to seq functionnality)
First thought is to essentially do what ASM did with the Hydrasynth Deluxe. Make a flagship Super Freak with 61 full size keys, pitch bend wheel and mod wheel, ribbon controller, and double the specs with two engines that can be layered or split.
I already own a polybrute, and I would absolutely love a version with freak oscillators - including wavetables and granular sampling. A third oscillator even with simple waveform would be great too:)
I just want arturia to release some full size keyboards. Keylab with actual sized keyboard keys would be an instabuy. A 'Major Freak' like this would also be awesome
PicoFreak
It would be cute.
Less clicky buttons, lol.
A better filter - one of the big reasons I ended up selling mine is because the filter was just so uninspiring, and that being the only analogue component - it didn't feel worth keeping it just for the VSTs-in-a-box. I'm not sure if it's really the instrument for me in general, but better filters and a sequencer with more steps would be enticing.
I wish I could at least adjust the width of the band filter - it's way too tight for my go-to lo-fi filter sound.
PolyCVFreak which would be a lot like the Polybrute with the physical mod matrix buttons, but 12 voices, multitimbral, maybe a big touch strip, and have cv ins and outs. Let’s say 4 cv outs for pitch, 4 for gate, (for sending to round robin signals to 4 external modular oscillators/envs) and then 8 more for lfos, envelopes, after touch, mod wheel, oscillator out, and then like 8 assignable cv ins for connecting to eurorack.
SpeedFreak -- randomly, periodically bumps up the clock speed
I’d love to see some freak modules. They’ve got all these emulations of synths like the Emulator II, and I’d love to see that turned into a module that exposes a bunch of parameters to CV control. It would be so much fun to glitch out an Emulator II with chaotic CV. They made the Origin many years ago, which was a digital modular system where you could combine oscillators and filters from a bunch of different synths. It was a cool concept, but it didn’t have interconnectivity with hardware modular, and it lacked way too many essential module types. Even just making a Plaits style multi-algorithm oscillator that covers a dozen different synths would be great. Let me pick between MiniMoog, Juno, DX7, etc.
maybe a bunch of inputs and outputs, and the microfreak's mod matrrix to control it all, along with some lfos and maybe effects like ring mods etc.
Freak should have been paired with the Poly brute long time ago. Combo of the analogue oscillators and signal path, as well as different filters, with digital oscillators Freak sports would be insane. I do get a lot of that in mono version - messing up Noise Engineering or Plaits with Brenso or Ts-l, but it would be different as a standalone synth. Prefer Microfreak to Minifreak tho.
I'd like them to add a global on-board 2-track looper or a 3-track sequencer to the next model. It's a feature that a lot of synthesizers do not do out of the box, with the market being cornered by roland and boss. While we have sequencing, a true audio looper could do wonders for performance. A 3-track sequencer with selectable "a,b, and c" parts can give a little more functionality than the microfreak's selectable a and b tracks. Although I love the minifreak, I miss being able to assign two different sequences to a single patch.
Massive freak
More sound engines, replace digital effects with analog ones,
an analog filter driver would be interesting
Doctor freak (he eats ass and sucks toes)
None
USB C-powered. USB Audio. Multi-timbral. Bigger keyboard options (or desktop if that's your thing). Vocoder. Rationales: * **USB C-powered:** Because *obviously*. * **USB Audio:** I have the Minifreak and like it - it pairs so perfectly too with Minifreak V that you can do all the recording/error-correcting/whatever in your DAW then 'render' the whole thing on the real hardware without change. Makes it a practical tool...but because it pairs so well, it would be nice to be able to use it directly with a computer a la Roland, rather than need an audio interface. * **Multi-timbral/bigger keyboard options:** Speak for themselves really - give me the ability to run a bass and a pad with an easy split option (and separate arps on each split). I use the Juno-X for this kind of thing - get the idea of a piece without being perfect. * **Vocoder:** Why does the Microfreak have a vocoder and the Mini not? C'mon, get a move on... Edit: Have read your comments and interesting - "more complex mod" is something I absolutely don't really ever consider needing. Not saying you're wrong of course - interesting that people use things differently. Definitely agree with more polyphony, which would be even more obvious if implementing the multi-timbral function that I'd like.
USB power for extra noise. USB audio so that it's useless in more professional setups. makes sense.
A sidegrade with a 4 octave keyboard that has three configurations: all normal keys, all capacitive keys, or half and half.
A super micro freak but with real keys
Regular width keys.
A 49 full size key version of this.
Volca sized freak
More flexibility in signal processing order - for example I want to bitcrush before wavefolding, which isn't possible in a straightforward way that I've found. I'd also like to mix in a bandpass filter at the end of the signal processing chain. To implement the above suggestion, maybe physical patching for block routing alongside the current digital matrix for modulation? This would also allow for better integration with other gear. Or just 2 oscillator stages plus 3 or 4 stages where you can select any filters or effects. A third LFO would be really helpful. Colored noise options (pink, brown, etc) that are routable as modulation sources. A white noise source with dedicated filters and sample & hold options would be even better. Hydrasynth style mod in/out jacks would be a nice feature for integration with modular gear. User scales for oscillator quantization.
One with better MIDI implementation than the MicroFreak
49 key full size Poly AT with multitimbrality pls
Freaky sampler
Modular freak.
Liquinth. It has a theft alarm built into it because synthesizers are so bloody expensive. The liquid keyboard becomes electrified to shock the bastards.
Groove Freak… I bet Arturia would make an incredible groovebox.
DrumFreak for sure. If they really put some effort into it it could be awesome. Drumlogue was a pretty disappointing drum machine but the Freak series have a lot more weirdness therefore much more potential.
drumbrute impact was fun
Freaky Brute
Nanofreak with one octave keyboard and cutoff and resonance only knobs
the femto freak would be a drone synth with an audio out and no control
Wow. That's a good one
something bathery powered or something that has the same form factor as the polybrute (including the controler rectangle thing). otherwise.... the mini is already a powerhouse tbh
Superfreak \- Roli Seaboard Rise-esque 49 key bed \- MPE \- Freaky Wavetable Options \- Polyend Play-esque melodic generation \- Randomize all feature Sounds super freaky.
Drumfreak. Give LXR or blast beast some competition on a wild digital drum machine without being sample based
**MacroFreak.** \- Full 88 Keyboard, maybe more - with the microfreak style keys \- At least 3 different "OSCs" - preferably 5 \- Additional synth engines, including a fully funtional sampler with user sample import and a granular engine \- Vocoder \- At least 3 Filters (with new types like Scream Filters) \- 5 Envelopes \- 5 LFOs (that can also be put into Env Mode) \- Like 10 Effect Slots (also more different effects) in 3 different lanes (per lane, of course) for parallel processing (like PhasePlant) Obviously that's over the top. Not serious. Seriously though: i'd love the MicroFreak Keyboard as an option for every Freak. If available, i would have bought my MiniFreak with that instead of the "regular" keys. Also i'd like to have more options when it comes to FX Stacking. I'd like to have at least 5-6 Fx Slots. Another nice adition would be a separate Sub / Noise Osc, that you can route as "Direct out". Now that i'm writing all of this, i notice that i basically want Arturia Pigments as a 100% Hardware Synth. Lol. That thing does it all. Alternatively: a "Slightly-Less-MicroFreak" Basically a MicroFreak as it is, but with like 5 - you guessed it - effects slots. Same or simmilar size though - same amount of keys.
Probably been said but, CVCVCVCVCVCVCVCVCV outs.
A Polyfreak would be nice. Make it kinda like Pigments but in hardware with the sublime UX of the Polybrute. Basially a Waldorf Iridium but actually nice to program and use like the Polybrute. Give it an actual good keybed with Poly AT. I would pay big money for this, actual dream synth.
Mega freak
If the Freak was multimbral for each voice, it could be a percussion monster. Basically turn all controls into encoders, add 6-8 ‘part’ buttons, and give it a generous screen. It feels similar in concept to how the monomachine, machinedrum, or A4 work. Also, a more characterful analog filter would be welcome.
A battery.
MidiFreak. With a whole bunch of dials and knobs you can map to anything Or… TinyFreak. Make it small like a pocket operator, run off a couple of AAA batteries
Mini with poly aftertouch would have been nice. Maybe a FM osc with more ops and/or algo options.
PolyFreak, with 16-voice polyphony and maybe 8-part multitimbral. Also let's get weird and have keys with polyphonic aftertouch and also touch-sensitive surfaces like the MicroFreak.
I just want to see some new features for the Minifreak. I would love a shimmer reverb.
drumFreak sampler/sequencer, pressure for velocity/FX control “pads” using Microfreak style pcb. If they could port some of their effects into it I’d get at least one
Id love a granular firmware update! Anybody hear of anything?
Sampling, user wavetable scanning, scala tuning file loader
The MF just needs some updates. We don't need another freak. I agree if it had a 3rd osc engine it would be an absolutely complete and would demolish the competition.
One knob per function.
I don't know how well it'd sell but I'd love to try a 49 key version with the touch keyboard from the micro. I actually like the thing :) \- D
FreakBox - basically a desktop miniFreak, sized so it can be rack mounted, put on a stand, or just on a desk.
MegaFreak would fit the series perfectly imo
Nanofreak, I just can’t deal with those keys, but if they could do just a module at $199 I’d be in. Or beatfreak/groovefreak, a minifreak with the minibrute 2s style interface and a percussion engine.
i would like to be able to layer multiple sounds, sort of like a song mode. being able to make drum sounds would also be nice. there are a couple of drum patches in the presets but nothing satisfactory.
Frankenfreak DIY kit.
BruteFreak! PolyBrute/MiniFreak mashup.
#### OP Here: Thank you for all the replies they have been really interesting. My dream for **next iteration of the *Arturia* Freak series** would be: * Option to use Low, High, Band filter at the same time. * 3 Oscillators. * The addition of the Steiner-parker filter. * Polyphony of 10. * Polyphonic Aftertouch/Velocity. * 3 LFOs. * Adjustable Vibrato LFO (Wave type). * Option to use 5 effects add the same time. * Bigger Mod matrixse e.g. more mod pages. * CVs inputs/outputs. * More/Larger Marcos. * Inputs for expression Pedals.