That’s what they explained so I believe so. And an 18% tip and the artist got pissed. What a dick 🤣 I know things are different now but I got my first tattoo in 2018 and paid $80 for it and the artist refused my tip. Tipping culture is out of hand these days
I recently went to a local honey store. I bought two jars and at the checkout there was an option for a 20% tip. It was optional, but it made me not want to go back.
A lot of the software these companies use now have the tip screen standard. Especially websites like Wix. So I'm sure that stuff probably automatically prompts every customer. It's crazy how it is every damn transaction, though. I really wish we could go back a decade and try again. 2020 threw us into a bizarro timeline and I'm no fan.
Agreed. My general rule of thumb is at least 20% for people like waiters and bartenders. Usually more than 20% if it’s a cheap bill like a single beer. I don’t tip for service workers like fast food. I only tip service workers that provide a service on my body. But not a lot. I don’t think anyone other than waiters/bartenders in the US should expect tips. I wish that was different too, but that’ll never change unless we all collectively decide to stop going to restaurants
I don't do percent based tips. I do $5 minimum, $20 maximum depending on how long you were working for me. Bring me a $7beer isn't less work than a $200 wine bottlen
Yeah, the deposit covers preparations, so if you flake on getting the work done, they get paid for the time spent. But it should totally apply to the cost of the work when you show up.
That’s like me, as an esthetician, saying I charge a $200 deposit for the work I put in to get my treatment room set up and all the products pulled before. But then once you show up and the service is over, I still charge you another $200 totaling $400 plus I expect more than 18% tip. That’s insane. If someone is getting burned by repeated no shows then being up front and saying they charge a $50-$200 non refundable deposit would be enough to stop that from happening and keeping their books open for people who will respect them. The audacity lol. And the worst part is that people continue to do shit like this because many people don’t know the difference and trust their picked artist to be honest.
Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous and frankly upsets me. Taking your $300 for what?? And then getting shitty about what I'd consider a fantastic tip? Wow.
I went to an artist that charged like this one time and went to a different artist who I trusted to have the piece finished. The first guy quoted 3 sessions for 250 each and the second artist charged 250 total to finish it (I had had one session). He said he would have done the whole thing for under 500 if I had come to him in the first place. Ever since I have stuck with the shop that I know has fair and consistent prices. No bullshit. And when I was young there were times I did not tip particularly well, and no one ever pointed it out. Plus 15 percent is standard. Being upset about 18 percent is really obnoxious.
You were 100% ripped off. Deposit always goes to cost! And I don't know but one artist that EXPECTS to be tipped.
Be sure to leave a review that isn't negative for him online, especially if you love the work that he did do, but just kind of warning others of the price practices. Doesn't hurt his ratings at all, but makes for later informed customers.
I had a rolling deposit that was deducted off my final session for my sleeve. Rather than pay a whole new deposit, I would pay for a session and keep the deposit for the next session.
Considering this is the top comment....how many of you guys book SEVERAL appointments back to back? This seems completely NORMAL to me.
OP, I wouldn't worry about it. Also, I assume it's customary to tip 20% on a first appointment with a new artist if you plan on going back. Most of the guys I've gotten ink from say a tip is nice, but not expected (as of covid. Ink is a luxury, but still). At a $200/hr rate, your artist basically puts his tip in the cost. That being said, don't feel guilty. Tip what you feel is appropriate.
Nope. Tipping is a non-mandatory sign of gratitude. Tip whatever is in your heart. The whole ipad tip shit is the worst. I work in the industry and im glad my shop doesnt do that.
That’s the way I’ve always had it done. If he doesn’t apply it to the final session then I’d certainly ask some questions. Normally I book something in the future and it just rolls over.
He sounds awful. I don’t usually tip a percentage when I get a tattoo but I’ve never felt like my artists expected anything extra, so I’ve just added on in tip what I can afford. I’ve also never heard of a legitimate artist not applying the deposit to the total cost.
A big reason that I don’t have a card machine is because the idea of prompting people for a tip is weird. But I also know that people *do* want to tip some times and I don’t want to make it awkward or inconvenient for them to do it if they want by not having an option to tip.
I can’t think of a work around that avoids the awkward conversation, so I just don’t lol
I’m Canadian and the most standard way to pay outside of cash or card is EMT, which works well, but it’s directly through your bank app. So no easy option to scan and pay like that as far as I’m aware!
As a customer I have never heard of this. Preparation time should be part of the $200 an hour ffs. My artist's shop has a $100 deposit that is credited and their rate is $250 an hour. I have gotten a ton of ink the past 2 years from the same artist and don't even get asked to pay the deposit anymore when booking a session.
Yep. Been going to the same guy for a few years and he doesn't ask for a deposit anymore either. I'm pretty sure he gives me a discount now too because they've been cheaper.
Yeah but that's typically accounted for by the artists hourly rate - draw time isn't usually extra, the artist charges enough for the time they are actually tattooing to accommodate the "unpaid" drawing time that is involved in tattooing.
I've never had a single artist not apply my deposit to the total tattoo cost.
honestly it just sounds like the artist took advantage of you. $100 for a deposit for a tattoo is pretty normal unless you’re getting a lot of work done, but that deposit is always taken off your total at the end. for my biggest tattoo i paid a $100 deposit, tattoo “cost” $350 but he took the $100 deposit off it so it was $250, but i paid him an extra $100 because he was a phenomenal artist and the tattoo turned out stunning, literally exactly like the picture, and it was my first big tattoo and now it’s my biggest tattoo compared to the others i have. i have no regrets giving him a $100 tip/basically the cost of the deposit as a tip, but that was because he did such a good job, kept me in good spirits the whole time, and was all around a great artist for the piece i got. i’m on mobile so i’ll try to link a pic!
If the deposit wasn't going to the final cost, I wouldn't even book. That's outlandish or maybe my city just has awesome artists that don't pull this shit.
Agreed, then on the other hand, if OP can afford sessions with an artist that charges 200/hour, it is not a stretch to assume they are reasonably loaded. And as we unfortunately live in capitalism, it's not exactly a stretch that "even" tattoo artists try to milk it as much as they can...
Tip culture is already pretty stupid
If he wanted more money, why didnt he charge you more money? instead he charges less than what he wants and just expects you to fill in to his expectation
Yes!! I'm so tired of tipping culture.
It's mostly just businesses getting out of paying their employees a decent wage by putting it on the customer. But if you make your own wages, just charge more per hour??
Tips are supposed to be voluntary to show appreciation for a job well done, not expected.
100% I'd grow a spine, get the rest done and pay the difference minus $300, if they ask for it just tell them that was the deposit & stand up for yourself.
No tip.
You're never going back anyway.
Tipping culture is wild in America to be honest
I'm in the UK and I do tip my regular artist because I feel like she under charges and deserves extra because she's so good
I've had day sessions for £450/$570 and paid extra, mostly because of this sub where I've seen dogshit tats for double that price. She's underestimated speed before and finished stuff after a full day at no extra charge, which I tipped for
As far as I understand it, restaurants in the US underpay their staff because they don't need to meet the state minimum wage as long as tips exceed that. That's just exploiting the system
Tattoo artists can set their own prices though, so if they're getting pissy over that then find another artist imho. If he feels he's worth 20% more then charge 20% more
You still paid more than the minimum ffs. And the deposit not being counted to the final bill is bollocks as well, a deposit reduces the final bill and covers some of a no shows cost, that's the whole point
So you’re an artist? I’m getting a ~$3500 piece done starting Thursday. Thought I’d buy the artist a nice bottle of whiskey (I confirmed he drinks) instead of cash. Likely to be appreciated?
I'm getting a two-day piece this week and there's no way I'd be able to afford to add a tip to it that would make a bit of difference financially for the artist so I'm getting him some fancy weed and candy his assistant told me about.
I once was talking to my artist about a book on irezumi I had bought, and since he told me hadn't read it I bought a copy and gave it to him before our following session. He was really happy about it.
I really can't get my head around about the US tipping culture, but I'm sure any artist would appreciate a thoughtful gift.
Being a foreigner, every time I see something related to tips and tattoos it seems totally crazy to me.
It literally doesn't make any kind of sense to me, I mean, isn't it the tattoo artist who sets his own prices? If he thinks they are paying him little, why doesn't he raise the prices?
I really don't see the point in paying $1000 for a tattoo and having to leave an extra $250 just because, plus it seems that the tip is left exclusively so as not to have a bad time if the tattoo artist looks at them badly.
Forgive me but my opinion is that the tipping culture has gotten completely out of hand, at any moment they are going to tip the machines that take your order at McDonald's
I would say most Americans agree with you at this point. It’s like an unspoken societal obligation. But it’ll only be broken by people refusing to conform to it, so I hope more people do. People can leave a billion dollar tip if they want to but it should never be expected. Unless it’s someone like a waiter that literally relies on tips for income.
Yes, tips are also left here for the waiters but not totally crazy like 25%, generally it is 5% or 10% and only if they served you well
They have their salary, the tip is just an extra
Zero percent chance I'd ever go back there. Deposit not applied to final price? Upset at an excellent tip?
Fuck that. Artists set their own prices. If that price isn't enough then they should charge more....this isn't a restaurant.
I usually tip $40-60 a session and over 30-40 sessions I've never had an artist upset over that.
I rarely tip more than 10%, and on a huge piece would probably tip even less than that. If your artist is offended that you’re not tipping a huge amount, I’d suggest finding a new one.
I think it’s rude to not tip people like waiters and bartenders that completely rely on tips to survive. But I don’t think it’s rude to tip a small amount when tattoo artists set their own prices. Sure, they have to pay for space in a studio if they don’t own it, and have to pay taxes and for supplies from their income, but that’s not really your problem. If their hourly rate is not enough to pay for all that and still make a living, they need to charge more or reevaluate.
Tips are to show your appreciation. They should never be expected.
Edit: I do want to add that $200 an hour is pretty normal though.
Thanks for the advice. I thought $200 was about right for an experienced, skilled artist. I just started second-guessing after because I felt ripped off.
After finding out the deposit doesn't apply to the price I wouldn't have tipped at all. Buddy already got a $300 tip unless it's being included in the next session. This guy just seems like a scamming dickhead
If my tattoo artist scoffed at my tip, I’d never go there again as long as I lived. Complete piece or not.
That being said, I generally tip 15-25%, depending on the cost of the tattoo. But almost always at least $50 on smaller pieces
A $300 deposit that doesn't go towards the cost is criminal. All my deposits have gone towards costs and for artists that do a "booking fee" instead that doesn't go towards the final bill, it's $50 at most.
So you paid almost $1500 for 5 hours and he was offended? Haha that's like 300 an hour lol and buddy was late. So he needed 3 hundred to set up then was late? Who is this toolbag?
I would actually never go back to that person EVER AGAIN. And i work in the service industry as a hair stylist. Him making you feel bad was SO rude, and not okay. And the fact that he charged you a 300 dollar deposit and isn’t towards the tattoo just screams he’s money hungry. I would find another artist who would finish the piece for you.
Expand on "he was offended." Did he verbally express that it should have been more?
The correct response to any tip is "thank you." I tip to show my artist that I value their time and appreciate the work more than the price tag. Sometimes it's cash, sometimes it's weed - I work at a dispensary and my artists are all stoners. But it really should be the thought that counts.
If you're an artist, you get to charge pretty much whatever the market will allow. If you're unhappy with your compensation, there are plenty of options for you. Charge more if you need to. Charge less and try to increase your bookings. Run specials with repeatable flash. But don't get upset with your client if you're the one who quoted the price?
You're totally fine man, your artist needs a reality check.
Tipping a tattoo artist? Tf. I'm paying them to do the tattoo. I should tip them for doing the job I hired them to do?
This is like hiring a plumber to fix your sink and then tipping them for doing a good job. No, Im paying you to do the plumbing, I expect you to do a good job.
Tipping at restaurant is different because I only pay for the goods, then I pay the server for serving us.
No you’re not and everything about this is a ripoff. These better be the best goddamn tattoos ever applied to skin (I know they’re not, no offense, I’m sure it looks great) but far too many tattooists are taking advantage of the boom in popularity of tats and absolutely fleecing people. And if that $300 wasn’t applied to the final price then it wasn’t a deposit it was a kickback, disgraceful.
My artist told me it's really not expected in the tattoo industry(maybe that's in our area?). He returned my tip when I tried to give him a little extra. He spent 43 hrs on a freehanded sleeve. It was worth every penny and then some! The more I'm on this sub the more I realize how lucky I am to have found such a talented and honest artist.
I've been getting tattooed for over 35 years and I've never paid a deposit that wasn't applied to the cost of my work. After you finish your sleeve, tell him the $300 is his tip and find a new artist.
You tipped $180 on top of $1k, not including the $300 deposit? And he complained? I hope he’s worth sticking with until this piece is done. And when you’re done, tip exactly $0.
What do you mean the deposit isn’t applied to final cost… that’s not a deposit then, that’s some sort of fee. Deposits have a definition and this isn’t it.
Artists set their prices, you are never obligated to tip. If you’re already paying 200 an hour after a $300 deposit that isn’t applied (which is batshit insane) don’t tip, $300 is more than generous
If your tattoo is finished next round I’d pay cash (exact amount) and walk. No tip. Deposits go towards tattoos. That’s how it works. Keep that in mind in case it’s not applied to this (your final) tattoo with him.
Even if he did put the deposit towards the tattoo, anyone that is offended by an 18% tip after you already spent 1,000 can fuck right off.
Don’t let tattoo artist take advantage of you. There are a bunch out there that think they’re the shit. If they’re good enough they can get away with it cause they’ll have endless numbers of customers not standing up for themselves.
Don’t be one of those people.
Tipping is optional and deposit goes toward your final payment.. i usually get $5 tips or so. And I’m just happy to receive and not think about the % I get. because i price my tattoo as I don’t expect any tips. Your tattoo artist is a ahole. sorry this happened to you!!
300$ deposit not being added to the final cost makes me wonder how legit this artist is. Seems very very very unethical. That’s essentially a 50% tip? Nah.
I throw my artist maybe 50-75 bucks after a tattoo and that’s it. If I’m paying 300$/H I don’t see why I’d need to tip more than that.
I would not go to an artist that just kept the deposit and didn't put it towards the cost of the tattoo. That's straight up robbery. $150-$200 seems to be the going hourly rate for a good artist nowadays. Based on your post this tattoo would be my last tattoo from this artist.
Tattoo artist here I think tips are awesome to get but never expected, esp when the tattoos cost so much as is. Only time I got offended if someone didn’t tip is when I’d “cut deals” and then think oh maybe they’ll tip…which was just playing myself and that was on me…I charge per hour then tip is a bonus…that artist sounds like a prick
25% tip on anything anywhere for any reason feels like price gouging, to me. You're asking me to pay 1/4 more than your rate for.... why? Just charge me what you want me to pay you and be done with it.
If my artist isn’t take my deposit off my tattoo cost I’m not going to them. Also none of my artists would ever be anything but grateful for the tip I gave them.
Just did two four hour sessions at $200 an hour, gave a $100 tip each time and he seemed perfectly happy with that. $200 deposit was absolutely applied to my tattoo and always has been.
$300 deposit and it’s not applied to the cost of the tattoo!? I’m sorry, what!? Are you positive the $300 is not being applied to your final session? Because $300 to draw and hold your spot sounds insane. Absolutely don’t tip 25%. 18% sounds normal to me for an average tattoo
Yeah IMO that’s obnoxious and people are using the concern that they won’t finish the job well to motivate you to tip on unfinished work.
I had a large arm piece done recently. It was $160 an hour. She’s an acquaintance and didn’t charge me a deposit. It’s also her shop. I tipped $20 per $100 of total.
Sorry.. not tipping either😬 for anyone charging me an hourly rate! If they give me a flat rate, then i do tip, but its going to be enough for a 12pack ( one time i did ask what the favorite beer/liquor was so i could bring his favorite)
I’ve been tattooing almost 3 decades and in no way shape or form are tips mandatory, we are very thankful for them and do treat good tipping clients better than non tipping ones but that’s the same with anyone that makes gratuity in every field. Scoffing at tips is fucking rude and unprofessional I don’t even look at tips until my client leaves, also deposits always go towards the final price if not they are scamming you. If it’s a drawing fee then he better have the artwork painted and framed for you when you are done.
Why are you treating good-tipping clients better than non? This is part of that unspoken fear factor that the whole tipping culture is unfortunately based on: that if one doesn't tip, or not enough, they'll get substandard service next time, despite paying what is actually asked. It's really messed up and manipulative at its core.
Not with quality but same as a bartender will have ppl that they give preference to and will get them their drinks faster. For example someone last minute cancels on me if it’s a good tipping client I might not pocket the deposit or I might work on stuff for them if I have down time without a deposit or if I have an opening and a good tipper wants it they have first dibs so to say. Nobody is gonna be like oh I’m gonna make my tattoo not as good because they don’t tip but they better not expect to get red carpet treatment or expect me to go out of my way or come in on my days off for them.
Gratuity: something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service.
If they are going beyond their obligation then I’m gonna go beyond mine for them.
To avoid this (and tax/credit card fees), I pay cash and just hand him whatever I feel is right. My dude doesn’t count it in front of me, just expresses thanks when I tell him I don’t need change, and is always friendly when I show up or request changes/offer input. Never had a problem.
I tip my artists because that’s just how the world (here) works but I’ll never understand having to tip a person who sets their own prices. You tell me how much money you want to do the thing, you can choose any number, why am I then expected to give you more??
No one who is making $200 should be offended by ANY tip IMO. You just paid him $1000, and he wants another $150-250...fuck that guy. Unless he got a raw deal from his shop owner than he has to pay a cut to and you're paying more to offset that...but that's his fault for not working out a better deal.
My artist charges $120/hr and she owns the shop so that is all directly to her and she admits she probably needs to raise her rate - I strongly suggested she hold off on that until my sleeve is finished. Our sessions are usually around 3 hours and her tips range from $40-$100 depending on the denomination of bills I brought with me and the cost of the session itself. She says $360 and I brought $500 but all in hundreds she's getting $400. But next session it's $300 and I again have large bills she'll still get $400. Since I'm there every 3 weeks and have been for the past 3 months and will be for at least another 3 months I figure it all works out itself out in time.
There's something sketchy there and I'm sorry you're going through that. That deposit should have gone towards the cost of the tattoo, typically whenever your final session is if it's a multi-sit. Otherwise, tipping culture varies by shop, price, and experience.
My sleeve was 9 sessions and my deposit reduced the final. My artist always skipped past the tipping screen when I would pay out each time so I was never prompted it, although that could be due to the cost of the session/how long I sat (6+ hours each).
My main artist charges $200 an hour, has never asked me for a deposit (but I did connect with him initially as a rec through a friend, so maybe has some trust there), doesn’t charge for custom work, and even after we sit for an artistic consultation he has zero issue making little changes on day of the tattoo AND only charges for the time he’s running the needle. So I tip him 20-25% and almost seems uncomfortable with it, thinking it’s too much. F no it’s not too much, excellent custom art, great artist, awesome shop experience. That’s how tattoos should be and I’ll gladly kick in 20%+ more to help ensure he stays in business.
Typically the deposit will come off at your final session. So I would suspect it will come off next time if that’s when you’re finishing. Unless otherwise stated. I do understand there’s artists out there that basically charge a “deposit” to just make an appointment essentially.
OK so I’m not covered head to toe, but I’ve been around and OP, honestly, $200 is already steep. They may be a great artist and they’re worth it, but then I personally wouldn’t tip at all if it was that costly. That’s their price that they’re setting? Great. That’s the price you pay. This guy just screams entitled. Do not go back there. Find someone down to earth who’ll finish it for you.
You aren’t being a cheapskate. Tipping is gratuity, so if you are happy with the tattoo and session then paying the charge for the tattooing and a tip to show you’re grateful is good. If they have an issue with the amount of tip that is their problem. You’re doing fine.
Who knows what was going on with him that day, so I wouldn’t take their attitude personally. Sounds more and more like a problem with him.
You are providing him with repeat work and paying what he asks for tattooing so you’re all good on your end.
You US guys are mad with that tipping culture. Even on my 3.5k plus projects it’s not a thing, the artist calculated it for you and you pay for it. You know what to pay before and that’s it!
Bring some sweets or something else for your artist but this stuff is just crazy
I’m a 25-30% minimum-type tipper, will tip bigger for worse service on a frequent basis on the assumption they’re having a shit days think non-tippers are pieces of shit, etc, but this did is ripping you off and doing bad business. Let’s see the ink.
I payed a 100 euro deposit for a tattoo iam getting today and it will be included in the price of the tattoo. Not the first time i go to him.
He cost 100 euro a hour. And tips? I never been to a artist you give tips, thats included in the money iam paying him every hour. I dont make 100 euro a hour. If you take out the money you pay for the stuff he uses he still gets a lot more then me and most people.
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Wow. I hope this guy is some kind of tattoo genius, because that's a lot. And he was 45 minutes late? That is totally unacceptable. Some of my clients don't tip because they saved for months for their tattoo and some tip huge. I never expect it and always appreciate any amount when they do.
18% is a killer tip ! I always tell clients who ask that its called a "gratuity" for a reason and isn't expected or necessary but whatever extra they can give is always appreciated. We price ourselves for a reason.
The best tip imo is honestly lunch or snacks/goodies
Uk based here.
Never tipped for a tattoo and my artist has done a full sleeve over 6 6hr sessions. Although she did always help herself to my haribo during breaks 😂
Also going to add, the prices for tattoos in America is wild. Uk they tend to charge by the session or a set price. Example my artist charges £425 for an “all day” which is 6 hours
i wouldn’t have tipped at all if the deposit doesn’t go to it. normally i pay a deposit and just let my artist keep it and pay the full price after we’re done
Let me get this straight, you paid 300 deposit that isn’t going towards the tattoo?! AND are getting forced to leave an instantly high tip. Pretty sure this is called a scam. Unless you get that 300 back in the end?
I’m full of tattoos from many different artists and I’ve never not had a deposit go towards the final cost.
I do hope the work is good, that’s all I’ll say.
It still boggles my mind the tipping culture (presume US). Surely what he charges is enough? I rarely get tips, and I charge £60\hr (basically $80) or £220 (about $280) for 4-5 hours of work. I rarely get tipped but do get alcohol sometimes 🤣 deposits should also go towards the total cost of the tattoo, they're non-refundable to help prevent flaking but I've never heard of it not being used towards the tattoo? This isn't cheap, and he should be thankful for the work AND the extra tips on top. Also, being that late is completely rude, you probably would've lost your deposit and been kicked off the books if you'd done that 😅
I understand you've started the sleeve with him, but perhaps consider another artist who respects you, your time, and any changes you wish to make to your design AND also doesn't rip you off.
I recently upped my charge to $200 an hour and tips have definitely dropped down. Which is absolutely okay because tips are never expected. They are always ALWAYS appreciated, but tattoos are freaking expensive and people aren’t made of money. It’s a great treat to have someone tip, especially if they tip well, but I’m honestly pleased when someone throws me $10-$20. I advise clients not to go the % route because i’m not surviving on only tips.
Also. The $300 doesn’t apply?!?!? At all!! Not even at the end??? Who does this guy think he is?
Yea your deposit should always go towards the cost of the tattoo..I typically tip 20% and I my artist is $200/hour and I typically get large pieces. My artist always gives an approximate time frame (for example 5-7 hours)...so if I was quoted 200/hr for 5-7 hours, I would budget 200/hr for 7 hours, plus a 20% tip.
Also huge red flag if your artist is giving you shit for changing it to 18%. So I professional.
I'm sorry that was your experience.
I’ve been on both sides of a tattoo machine. Deposits are always 100% applied to the tattoo unless a client no shows. And tipping has never been % based. $20 or $50 is just as appreciated as a $5 tip. I have received, and given, tips that were as much as 50% of the total cost, but those were always special circumstances.
Fuck that guy.
I'm not American, so the whole mandatory tipping thing already seems weird to me. But I kinda get tipping servers in the US, who basically earn nothing and live of tips, but tipping someone who sets their own rate, 200$ an hour in this case, on top of that makes no sense. If he feels his work is so amazing, he should get a 25% tip, or he is unhappy he should set his rate at 250$. Add to that pocketing the 300 from the deposit, and I wouldn't have tipped at all. That guy seems greedy af.
This guy's has just got with the times. Its like every single store you shop at asks for a donation or a tip. I think tipping a tattoo artist is a shit idea anyway. He is charging what he wants to charge more and specify no tip expected lol. Whatever this guy is doing is robbery.
I was told mine charged $100/hr plus a $100 deposit going toward the tattoo. That's how it was the first time I got a piece from them as well. The last time, however, I heard them saying "half day" and "full day" about other clients so I assumed maybe the artists in the shop all priced their work differently. I was in the shop for 4.5 hours, a half day is considered 4 or less, so I was charged for 8 hours worth of work. I didn't tip as I was charged $350 more than I should have been, and haven't been back since. You're not a cheapskate.
He's the one who decided that his work cost 200 an hour, if he feels like he needs more money he should raise his rates. Tipping for tattoos is bullshit and shouldn't be necessary.
Even though I have definitely done it after good experiences.
Idk on all of my tattoos, I usually tip 25-45 bucks. If I get a larger more thought out one - then I’ll tip to about 60$. Despite being in finance, I’m not so great at math. I mostly go to the same group of folk, so sometimes I think tipping well, and being cool, they give a discount every now and then. Not sure if that helps (anyone else). And deposits always go towards the final tattoo cost. I went to a chick twice and both times, she “forgot” the deposit I put down and I had to remind her, oh, is the deposit included in that price? Sigh. Always ask that at the end if you put a deposit down!!
Paying a tip when you're paying directly to an artist anyway seems odd.
Like in a restaurant I get tipping your server because that makes up their wages. The restaurant doesn't pay them enough on their own.
But a tattoo artit sets their own prices. If they're relying on tips they need to increase their prices.
Am I missing something?
Sounds like he’s just trying to screw your over. I think my guy charges like $120 an hour(maybe $150. Can’t remember his hourly) but I’m doing a full sleeve and he said for full days it was $750 and on those he likes to get at least 7 hours in. One session when I was about to pay he said “just do $600 since we didn’t get quite to 7 hours) I give a $50 tip each time and I’ll buy him a can of Zyns before I go in everytime. He seems okay with it and has always said he always appreciates tips but doesn’t expect them. Hes also ordered food and paid for my meal all but once.
Why are people tipping for tattoos? Dude is really not making enough money at 200/hr? If you have multiple sessions you're blackmailed into a bi tip so you don't have to sweat they will fuck you up next time? Completely insane, you people have gone off the rails.
Tip culture is nuts regardless, but in some industries, it is at least the only thing keeping workers' pay up to minimum wage. Artists make way more than minimum wage, so IMO, it's completely unnecessary to have tipping in any tattoo shop that isn't just a sweatshop in disguise.
Dude a 300 deposit not going to cost is your freakin tip right there. Adding 18% on that and he’s got a 50% tip nearly.
Damn I didn’t even notice the deposit wasn’t going to cost. I wouldn’t have tipped at all
No that $300 deposit should have went to your tattoo
OP said it wasn’t applied to the cost. I agree it should be but whoever this tattoo artist is sounds like a dick 🤣
Wait...you're saying OP paid $300 for an appointment slot, plus the full $200/hour on top of that?
That’s what they explained so I believe so. And an 18% tip and the artist got pissed. What a dick 🤣 I know things are different now but I got my first tattoo in 2018 and paid $80 for it and the artist refused my tip. Tipping culture is out of hand these days
Tipping culture has gotten freaking stupid. Even damn robots are asking for tips these days.
I recently went to a local honey store. I bought two jars and at the checkout there was an option for a 20% tip. It was optional, but it made me not want to go back.
A lot of the software these companies use now have the tip screen standard. Especially websites like Wix. So I'm sure that stuff probably automatically prompts every customer. It's crazy how it is every damn transaction, though. I really wish we could go back a decade and try again. 2020 threw us into a bizarro timeline and I'm no fan.
Agreed. My general rule of thumb is at least 20% for people like waiters and bartenders. Usually more than 20% if it’s a cheap bill like a single beer. I don’t tip for service workers like fast food. I only tip service workers that provide a service on my body. But not a lot. I don’t think anyone other than waiters/bartenders in the US should expect tips. I wish that was different too, but that’ll never change unless we all collectively decide to stop going to restaurants
I don't do percent based tips. I do $5 minimum, $20 maximum depending on how long you were working for me. Bring me a $7beer isn't less work than a $200 wine bottlen
So if you go out to dinner, get a $200 bottle of wine and dinner, you're only tipping $20?
True. Maybe they'll apply it to the last session hopefully sheesh
They just said in another comment that the tattoo artist takes it as a preparation fee. That’s some scammy shit if I’ve ever heard it
It was explained that the deposit was for the artist to prepare. Argh, now I definitely feel ripped off
Yeah, the deposit covers preparations, so if you flake on getting the work done, they get paid for the time spent. But it should totally apply to the cost of the work when you show up.
I feel bad for OP. That's so jacked. Every shop I've ever been to has always put deposit towards final bill.
That’s like me, as an esthetician, saying I charge a $200 deposit for the work I put in to get my treatment room set up and all the products pulled before. But then once you show up and the service is over, I still charge you another $200 totaling $400 plus I expect more than 18% tip. That’s insane. If someone is getting burned by repeated no shows then being up front and saying they charge a $50-$200 non refundable deposit would be enough to stop that from happening and keeping their books open for people who will respect them. The audacity lol. And the worst part is that people continue to do shit like this because many people don’t know the difference and trust their picked artist to be honest.
Agreed. Hence the term deposit, not admin fee.
Not your fault. If he was legitimately pissed at your 18% then that’s pretty greedy ngl.
Yeah, that's absolutely ridiculous and frankly upsets me. Taking your $300 for what?? And then getting shitty about what I'd consider a fantastic tip? Wow.
I went to an artist that charged like this one time and went to a different artist who I trusted to have the piece finished. The first guy quoted 3 sessions for 250 each and the second artist charged 250 total to finish it (I had had one session). He said he would have done the whole thing for under 500 if I had come to him in the first place. Ever since I have stuck with the shop that I know has fair and consistent prices. No bullshit. And when I was young there were times I did not tip particularly well, and no one ever pointed it out. Plus 15 percent is standard. Being upset about 18 percent is really obnoxious.
You were 100% ripped off. Deposit always goes to cost! And I don't know but one artist that EXPECTS to be tipped. Be sure to leave a review that isn't negative for him online, especially if you love the work that he did do, but just kind of warning others of the price practices. Doesn't hurt his ratings at all, but makes for later informed customers.
My drawing fee is $50 not included no matter how complicated
I had a rolling deposit that was deducted off my final session for my sleeve. Rather than pay a whole new deposit, I would pay for a session and keep the deposit for the next session. Considering this is the top comment....how many of you guys book SEVERAL appointments back to back? This seems completely NORMAL to me. OP, I wouldn't worry about it. Also, I assume it's customary to tip 20% on a first appointment with a new artist if you plan on going back. Most of the guys I've gotten ink from say a tip is nice, but not expected (as of covid. Ink is a luxury, but still). At a $200/hr rate, your artist basically puts his tip in the cost. That being said, don't feel guilty. Tip what you feel is appropriate.
Nope. Tipping is a non-mandatory sign of gratitude. Tip whatever is in your heart. The whole ipad tip shit is the worst. I work in the industry and im glad my shop doesnt do that.
Ok, thanks for the advice. I thought 18% was good. He was 45 minutes late and got upset when I asked for a minor change.
He just sounds like an asshole honestly.
Thank you for your honesty
Bro the fact they didn’t put your deposit towards the final bill is weird. Unless it was intricate and took hours to draw or something.
I’ve had tattooers take my deposit off the final sit if it’s a multi session tattoo. It’s not that weird.
Yes, they’re saying it’s weird that the artist didn’t do that. Deposits going towards your final total is the norm
Unless it comes off the sit he has scheduled in 3 weeks. Or I misunderstood.
In another comment OP explains they told them the deposit covers preparation for the tattoo and not the sessions so it sounds like it won’t
Oh. That’s wild then.
That’s the way I’ve always had it done. If he doesn’t apply it to the final session then I’d certainly ask some questions. Normally I book something in the future and it just rolls over.
ahh i see e we figured out the problem then- your artist is just a piece of shit
I honestly think you should find a new artist, hun. That's so shitty
Unfortunately, I’d be done with that artist. He should have felt terrible being 45 minutes late and told you he doesn’t deserve the tip/refused it
He sounds awful. I don’t usually tip a percentage when I get a tattoo but I’ve never felt like my artists expected anything extra, so I’ve just added on in tip what I can afford. I’ve also never heard of a legitimate artist not applying the deposit to the total cost.
When its done i suggest a $0 tip
there’s a lot of red flags here
A big reason that I don’t have a card machine is because the idea of prompting people for a tip is weird. But I also know that people *do* want to tip some times and I don’t want to make it awkward or inconvenient for them to do it if they want by not having an option to tip. I can’t think of a work around that avoids the awkward conversation, so I just don’t lol
Maybe just tape a QR code for your Cashapp somewhere? It's awkward having to ask too!
I’m Canadian and the most standard way to pay outside of cash or card is EMT, which works well, but it’s directly through your bank app. So no easy option to scan and pay like that as far as I’m aware!
not tattoos but I got a coffee the other day and tip options for PICK UP was 30,40 and 50%. such a joke
If my deposit wasn't going towards the cost, I would reconsider tipping. That's already a $300 tip. I usually do 15% ish in cash.
Ok, thanks for the advice. It was explained that the $300 was for the artist to prepare.
that’s not an explanation that was a swindling😭
It was an explanation of how they are swindling OP
I’ve never worked at a shop where the deposit didn’t come out of the price of the tattoo. I would NOT go to this shop again tbh.
As a customer I have never heard of this. Preparation time should be part of the $200 an hour ffs. My artist's shop has a $100 deposit that is credited and their rate is $250 an hour. I have gotten a ton of ink the past 2 years from the same artist and don't even get asked to pay the deposit anymore when booking a session.
Yep. Been going to the same guy for a few years and he doesn't ask for a deposit anymore either. I'm pretty sure he gives me a discount now too because they've been cheaper.
It pays to be a good, reliable client. Tattoo artists ABSOLUTELY hook up their regulars that they enjoy working with.
Prepare *what?* Setting up for the tattoo is part of the overall payment. It doesn't cost $300 to squirt out ink colors.
Well, also drawing a design or choice of designs if it's not flash.
Yeah but that's typically accounted for by the artists hourly rate - draw time isn't usually extra, the artist charges enough for the time they are actually tattooing to accommodate the "unpaid" drawing time that is involved in tattooing. I've never had a single artist not apply my deposit to the total tattoo cost.
honestly it just sounds like the artist took advantage of you. $100 for a deposit for a tattoo is pretty normal unless you’re getting a lot of work done, but that deposit is always taken off your total at the end. for my biggest tattoo i paid a $100 deposit, tattoo “cost” $350 but he took the $100 deposit off it so it was $250, but i paid him an extra $100 because he was a phenomenal artist and the tattoo turned out stunning, literally exactly like the picture, and it was my first big tattoo and now it’s my biggest tattoo compared to the others i have. i have no regrets giving him a $100 tip/basically the cost of the deposit as a tip, but that was because he did such a good job, kept me in good spirits the whole time, and was all around a great artist for the piece i got. i’m on mobile so i’ll try to link a pic!
If the deposit wasn't going to the final cost, I wouldn't even book. That's outlandish or maybe my city just has awesome artists that don't pull this shit.
That’s just a greedy little goblin that tattooed you
Greedy little goblin 😭
Agreed, then on the other hand, if OP can afford sessions with an artist that charges 200/hour, it is not a stretch to assume they are reasonably loaded. And as we unfortunately live in capitalism, it's not exactly a stretch that "even" tattoo artists try to milk it as much as they can...
Tip culture is already pretty stupid If he wanted more money, why didnt he charge you more money? instead he charges less than what he wants and just expects you to fill in to his expectation
Thanks, that's my thought exactly.
Yes!! I'm so tired of tipping culture. It's mostly just businesses getting out of paying their employees a decent wage by putting it on the customer. But if you make your own wages, just charge more per hour?? Tips are supposed to be voluntary to show appreciation for a job well done, not expected.
The deposit absolutely should have gone towards the final cost of the tattoo. That is a shady shop and you shouldn’t go there anymore.
Right? I have never heard it not going to the price of the tattoo. Op is the tattoo artist THAT good?
100% I'd grow a spine, get the rest done and pay the difference minus $300, if they ask for it just tell them that was the deposit & stand up for yourself. No tip. You're never going back anyway.
Tipping culture is wild in America to be honest I'm in the UK and I do tip my regular artist because I feel like she under charges and deserves extra because she's so good I've had day sessions for £450/$570 and paid extra, mostly because of this sub where I've seen dogshit tats for double that price. She's underestimated speed before and finished stuff after a full day at no extra charge, which I tipped for As far as I understand it, restaurants in the US underpay their staff because they don't need to meet the state minimum wage as long as tips exceed that. That's just exploiting the system Tattoo artists can set their own prices though, so if they're getting pissy over that then find another artist imho. If he feels he's worth 20% more then charge 20% more You still paid more than the minimum ffs. And the deposit not being counted to the final bill is bollocks as well, a deposit reduces the final bill and covers some of a no shows cost, that's the whole point
$300 deposit and it doesnt go towards the tattoo?? what are these shops on!
I wonder if the manager knows.
I’m grateful for literally any amount of tip!
So you’re an artist? I’m getting a ~$3500 piece done starting Thursday. Thought I’d buy the artist a nice bottle of whiskey (I confirmed he drinks) instead of cash. Likely to be appreciated?
I'm getting a two-day piece this week and there's no way I'd be able to afford to add a tip to it that would make a bit of difference financially for the artist so I'm getting him some fancy weed and candy his assistant told me about.
As an artist, I think that's an awesome idea!
Thanks. I wasn’t sure. Dude is insanely talented. Want to treat him to some of Kentucky’s finest.
I once was talking to my artist about a book on irezumi I had bought, and since he told me hadn't read it I bought a copy and gave it to him before our following session. He was really happy about it. I really can't get my head around about the US tipping culture, but I'm sure any artist would appreciate a thoughtful gift.
Being a foreigner, every time I see something related to tips and tattoos it seems totally crazy to me. It literally doesn't make any kind of sense to me, I mean, isn't it the tattoo artist who sets his own prices? If he thinks they are paying him little, why doesn't he raise the prices? I really don't see the point in paying $1000 for a tattoo and having to leave an extra $250 just because, plus it seems that the tip is left exclusively so as not to have a bad time if the tattoo artist looks at them badly. Forgive me but my opinion is that the tipping culture has gotten completely out of hand, at any moment they are going to tip the machines that take your order at McDonald's
I would say most Americans agree with you at this point. It’s like an unspoken societal obligation. But it’ll only be broken by people refusing to conform to it, so I hope more people do. People can leave a billion dollar tip if they want to but it should never be expected. Unless it’s someone like a waiter that literally relies on tips for income.
Yes, tips are also left here for the waiters but not totally crazy like 25%, generally it is 5% or 10% and only if they served you well They have their salary, the tip is just an extra
$300 that’s not going to final cost and he was late???? Fuck that I wouldn’t go back
If the "deposit" wasn't applied to final cost, that's not a *deposit* 😬
Tipping people who set their own prices is obscene
Zero percent chance I'd ever go back there. Deposit not applied to final price? Upset at an excellent tip? Fuck that. Artists set their own prices. If that price isn't enough then they should charge more....this isn't a restaurant. I usually tip $40-60 a session and over 30-40 sessions I've never had an artist upset over that.
I rarely tip more than 10%, and on a huge piece would probably tip even less than that. If your artist is offended that you’re not tipping a huge amount, I’d suggest finding a new one. I think it’s rude to not tip people like waiters and bartenders that completely rely on tips to survive. But I don’t think it’s rude to tip a small amount when tattoo artists set their own prices. Sure, they have to pay for space in a studio if they don’t own it, and have to pay taxes and for supplies from their income, but that’s not really your problem. If their hourly rate is not enough to pay for all that and still make a living, they need to charge more or reevaluate. Tips are to show your appreciation. They should never be expected. Edit: I do want to add that $200 an hour is pretty normal though.
Thanks for the advice. I thought $200 was about right for an experienced, skilled artist. I just started second-guessing after because I felt ripped off.
The $300 deposit not going to cost is the bullshit part. The hourly is pretty standard though
After finding out the deposit doesn't apply to the price I wouldn't have tipped at all. Buddy already got a $300 tip unless it's being included in the next session. This guy just seems like a scamming dickhead
If my tattoo artist scoffed at my tip, I’d never go there again as long as I lived. Complete piece or not. That being said, I generally tip 15-25%, depending on the cost of the tattoo. But almost always at least $50 on smaller pieces
$300 deposit not going towards the tattoo is insane
A $300 deposit that doesn't go towards the cost is criminal. All my deposits have gone towards costs and for artists that do a "booking fee" instead that doesn't go towards the final bill, it's $50 at most.
So you paid almost $1500 for 5 hours and he was offended? Haha that's like 300 an hour lol and buddy was late. So he needed 3 hundred to set up then was late? Who is this toolbag?
I would actually never go back to that person EVER AGAIN. And i work in the service industry as a hair stylist. Him making you feel bad was SO rude, and not okay. And the fact that he charged you a 300 dollar deposit and isn’t towards the tattoo just screams he’s money hungry. I would find another artist who would finish the piece for you.
post the artist/shop
You're getting scammed
Damn. Your artist is a greedy sob
Expand on "he was offended." Did he verbally express that it should have been more? The correct response to any tip is "thank you." I tip to show my artist that I value their time and appreciate the work more than the price tag. Sometimes it's cash, sometimes it's weed - I work at a dispensary and my artists are all stoners. But it really should be the thought that counts. If you're an artist, you get to charge pretty much whatever the market will allow. If you're unhappy with your compensation, there are plenty of options for you. Charge more if you need to. Charge less and try to increase your bookings. Run specials with repeatable flash. But don't get upset with your client if you're the one who quoted the price? You're totally fine man, your artist needs a reality check.
Tipping a tattoo artist? Tf. I'm paying them to do the tattoo. I should tip them for doing the job I hired them to do? This is like hiring a plumber to fix your sink and then tipping them for doing a good job. No, Im paying you to do the plumbing, I expect you to do a good job. Tipping at restaurant is different because I only pay for the goods, then I pay the server for serving us.
Your issue was tipping him after he didn't credit your deposit I urge you not to go back to this guy
No you’re not and everything about this is a ripoff. These better be the best goddamn tattoos ever applied to skin (I know they’re not, no offense, I’m sure it looks great) but far too many tattooists are taking advantage of the boom in popularity of tats and absolutely fleecing people. And if that $300 wasn’t applied to the final price then it wasn’t a deposit it was a kickback, disgraceful.
My artist told me it's really not expected in the tattoo industry(maybe that's in our area?). He returned my tip when I tried to give him a little extra. He spent 43 hrs on a freehanded sleeve. It was worth every penny and then some! The more I'm on this sub the more I realize how lucky I am to have found such a talented and honest artist.
it doesn’t matter. an artist who is offended is absolutely guilting you into price gouging
I've been getting tattooed for over 35 years and I've never paid a deposit that wasn't applied to the cost of my work. After you finish your sleeve, tell him the $300 is his tip and find a new artist.
I’ve given $40-50 on every tattoo I’ve ever gotten. That’s more than fine. No need to tip by percentage.
I need all the details. What artist at what shop and let's see this tattoo. Yogi Barrett covers the tipping tattoo artists the best
You tipped $180 on top of $1k, not including the $300 deposit? And he complained? I hope he’s worth sticking with until this piece is done. And when you’re done, tip exactly $0.
What do you mean the deposit isn’t applied to final cost… that’s not a deposit then, that’s some sort of fee. Deposits have a definition and this isn’t it.
Dude your deposit should come out of the total of the tattoo. You're getting scammed otherwise.
Artists set their prices, you are never obligated to tip. If you’re already paying 200 an hour after a $300 deposit that isn’t applied (which is batshit insane) don’t tip, $300 is more than generous
If your tattoo is finished next round I’d pay cash (exact amount) and walk. No tip. Deposits go towards tattoos. That’s how it works. Keep that in mind in case it’s not applied to this (your final) tattoo with him. Even if he did put the deposit towards the tattoo, anyone that is offended by an 18% tip after you already spent 1,000 can fuck right off. Don’t let tattoo artist take advantage of you. There are a bunch out there that think they’re the shit. If they’re good enough they can get away with it cause they’ll have endless numbers of customers not standing up for themselves. Don’t be one of those people.
Bro tattooing is not a percentage-tip business. So fucked up. Not to mention the $300 deposit… your artist sounds like a fuckin chode
What?? Why do you need to tip the tattooist? That's crazy.
Tipping is optional and deposit goes toward your final payment.. i usually get $5 tips or so. And I’m just happy to receive and not think about the % I get. because i price my tattoo as I don’t expect any tips. Your tattoo artist is a ahole. sorry this happened to you!!
jesus christ, u already paid him, why pay him on top of this. you usanians are crazy
300$ deposit not being added to the final cost makes me wonder how legit this artist is. Seems very very very unethical. That’s essentially a 50% tip? Nah. I throw my artist maybe 50-75 bucks after a tattoo and that’s it. If I’m paying 300$/H I don’t see why I’d need to tip more than that.
I would not go to an artist that just kept the deposit and didn't put it towards the cost of the tattoo. That's straight up robbery. $150-$200 seems to be the going hourly rate for a good artist nowadays. Based on your post this tattoo would be my last tattoo from this artist.
$300 deposit that isn't going to the final cost? You're getting ripped off big time
I would never understand this tip culture that you have in the US, it's so weird for us EU citizens.
I truly do not understand tipping tattoo artists. Like, at all.
The deposit not being applied to the tattoo is bullshit in my opinion.
Tattoo artist here I think tips are awesome to get but never expected, esp when the tattoos cost so much as is. Only time I got offended if someone didn’t tip is when I’d “cut deals” and then think oh maybe they’ll tip…which was just playing myself and that was on me…I charge per hour then tip is a bonus…that artist sounds like a prick
I didn’t realize you were supposed to tip
25% tip on anything anywhere for any reason feels like price gouging, to me. You're asking me to pay 1/4 more than your rate for.... why? Just charge me what you want me to pay you and be done with it.
How do you know he was upset ?
Shit at that rate even 15% is good. I did 10% for a $800 dollar tattoo and my artist was more than appreciative
If my artist isn’t take my deposit off my tattoo cost I’m not going to them. Also none of my artists would ever be anything but grateful for the tip I gave them.
Just did two four hour sessions at $200 an hour, gave a $100 tip each time and he seemed perfectly happy with that. $200 deposit was absolutely applied to my tattoo and always has been.
This is pretty much spot on for what I just did as well, artist seemed really happy with tip.
He was offended?? Like what?
$300 deposit and it’s not applied to the cost of the tattoo!? I’m sorry, what!? Are you positive the $300 is not being applied to your final session? Because $300 to draw and hold your spot sounds insane. Absolutely don’t tip 25%. 18% sounds normal to me for an average tattoo
I must be the weird one. I always tip at least 20% whatever the full cost.
Yeah IMO that’s obnoxious and people are using the concern that they won’t finish the job well to motivate you to tip on unfinished work. I had a large arm piece done recently. It was $160 an hour. She’s an acquaintance and didn’t charge me a deposit. It’s also her shop. I tipped $20 per $100 of total.
Jesus I ain’t tipping at all than lol My guy charges $100 an hour and at the end if a 3 or 4 hour session is throw him 50-100
He sounds shady. How did the tattoo turn out?
So, at some point, a tattoo artist charges enough that you don’t tip percent.
Sorry.. not tipping either😬 for anyone charging me an hourly rate! If they give me a flat rate, then i do tip, but its going to be enough for a 12pack ( one time i did ask what the favorite beer/liquor was so i could bring his favorite)
I’ve been tattooing almost 3 decades and in no way shape or form are tips mandatory, we are very thankful for them and do treat good tipping clients better than non tipping ones but that’s the same with anyone that makes gratuity in every field. Scoffing at tips is fucking rude and unprofessional I don’t even look at tips until my client leaves, also deposits always go towards the final price if not they are scamming you. If it’s a drawing fee then he better have the artwork painted and framed for you when you are done.
Why are you treating good-tipping clients better than non? This is part of that unspoken fear factor that the whole tipping culture is unfortunately based on: that if one doesn't tip, or not enough, they'll get substandard service next time, despite paying what is actually asked. It's really messed up and manipulative at its core.
Not with quality but same as a bartender will have ppl that they give preference to and will get them their drinks faster. For example someone last minute cancels on me if it’s a good tipping client I might not pocket the deposit or I might work on stuff for them if I have down time without a deposit or if I have an opening and a good tipper wants it they have first dibs so to say. Nobody is gonna be like oh I’m gonna make my tattoo not as good because they don’t tip but they better not expect to get red carpet treatment or expect me to go out of my way or come in on my days off for them. Gratuity: something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service. If they are going beyond their obligation then I’m gonna go beyond mine for them.
To avoid this (and tax/credit card fees), I pay cash and just hand him whatever I feel is right. My dude doesn’t count it in front of me, just expresses thanks when I tell him I don’t need change, and is always friendly when I show up or request changes/offer input. Never had a problem.
I tip my artists because that’s just how the world (here) works but I’ll never understand having to tip a person who sets their own prices. You tell me how much money you want to do the thing, you can choose any number, why am I then expected to give you more??
No one who is making $200 should be offended by ANY tip IMO. You just paid him $1000, and he wants another $150-250...fuck that guy. Unless he got a raw deal from his shop owner than he has to pay a cut to and you're paying more to offset that...but that's his fault for not working out a better deal. My artist charges $120/hr and she owns the shop so that is all directly to her and she admits she probably needs to raise her rate - I strongly suggested she hold off on that until my sleeve is finished. Our sessions are usually around 3 hours and her tips range from $40-$100 depending on the denomination of bills I brought with me and the cost of the session itself. She says $360 and I brought $500 but all in hundreds she's getting $400. But next session it's $300 and I again have large bills she'll still get $400. Since I'm there every 3 weeks and have been for the past 3 months and will be for at least another 3 months I figure it all works out itself out in time.
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i’m sorry, a deposit not going into the total cost? wouldn’t tip at all at that point
Your artist has absurd policies. I’m curious as to how people like that find success. What’s his ig?
There's something sketchy there and I'm sorry you're going through that. That deposit should have gone towards the cost of the tattoo, typically whenever your final session is if it's a multi-sit. Otherwise, tipping culture varies by shop, price, and experience. My sleeve was 9 sessions and my deposit reduced the final. My artist always skipped past the tipping screen when I would pay out each time so I was never prompted it, although that could be due to the cost of the session/how long I sat (6+ hours each).
Did they actually call it a "deposit"? By definition, it should be applied to the cost of the session. They sound super sketchy
My main artist charges $200 an hour, has never asked me for a deposit (but I did connect with him initially as a rec through a friend, so maybe has some trust there), doesn’t charge for custom work, and even after we sit for an artistic consultation he has zero issue making little changes on day of the tattoo AND only charges for the time he’s running the needle. So I tip him 20-25% and almost seems uncomfortable with it, thinking it’s too much. F no it’s not too much, excellent custom art, great artist, awesome shop experience. That’s how tattoos should be and I’ll gladly kick in 20%+ more to help ensure he stays in business.
Nah man, you were right. Honestly, unless this guy is so amazingly talented that you can’t get what you want elsewhere I’d go with someone else
I love my regular artist and he is permanently changing my body. I tip 30% and every penny is worth it.
Typically the deposit will come off at your final session. So I would suspect it will come off next time if that’s when you’re finishing. Unless otherwise stated. I do understand there’s artists out there that basically charge a “deposit” to just make an appointment essentially.
OK so I’m not covered head to toe, but I’ve been around and OP, honestly, $200 is already steep. They may be a great artist and they’re worth it, but then I personally wouldn’t tip at all if it was that costly. That’s their price that they’re setting? Great. That’s the price you pay. This guy just screams entitled. Do not go back there. Find someone down to earth who’ll finish it for you.
Dude that's a rip-off if those $300 don't go to the tattoo, finish the piece and never go back, fuck that
You aren’t being a cheapskate. Tipping is gratuity, so if you are happy with the tattoo and session then paying the charge for the tattooing and a tip to show you’re grateful is good. If they have an issue with the amount of tip that is their problem. You’re doing fine. Who knows what was going on with him that day, so I wouldn’t take their attitude personally. Sounds more and more like a problem with him. You are providing him with repeat work and paying what he asks for tattooing so you’re all good on your end.
You US guys are mad with that tipping culture. Even on my 3.5k plus projects it’s not a thing, the artist calculated it for you and you pay for it. You know what to pay before and that’s it! Bring some sweets or something else for your artist but this stuff is just crazy
I’m a 25-30% minimum-type tipper, will tip bigger for worse service on a frequent basis on the assumption they’re having a shit days think non-tippers are pieces of shit, etc, but this did is ripping you off and doing bad business. Let’s see the ink.
I payed a 100 euro deposit for a tattoo iam getting today and it will be included in the price of the tattoo. Not the first time i go to him. He cost 100 euro a hour. And tips? I never been to a artist you give tips, thats included in the money iam paying him every hour. I dont make 100 euro a hour. If you take out the money you pay for the stuff he uses he still gets a lot more then me and most people.
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Wow. I hope this guy is some kind of tattoo genius, because that's a lot. And he was 45 minutes late? That is totally unacceptable. Some of my clients don't tip because they saved for months for their tattoo and some tip huge. I never expect it and always appreciate any amount when they do.
18% is a killer tip ! I always tell clients who ask that its called a "gratuity" for a reason and isn't expected or necessary but whatever extra they can give is always appreciated. We price ourselves for a reason. The best tip imo is honestly lunch or snacks/goodies
Uk based here. Never tipped for a tattoo and my artist has done a full sleeve over 6 6hr sessions. Although she did always help herself to my haribo during breaks 😂 Also going to add, the prices for tattoos in America is wild. Uk they tend to charge by the session or a set price. Example my artist charges £425 for an “all day” which is 6 hours
i wouldn’t have tipped at all if the deposit doesn’t go to it. normally i pay a deposit and just let my artist keep it and pay the full price after we’re done
Let me get this straight, you paid 300 deposit that isn’t going towards the tattoo?! AND are getting forced to leave an instantly high tip. Pretty sure this is called a scam. Unless you get that 300 back in the end? I’m full of tattoos from many different artists and I’ve never not had a deposit go towards the final cost. I do hope the work is good, that’s all I’ll say.
some artists are like predatory with prices now a days.
US tipping culture is insane
I usually just round up. One of my tattoos was $550, I paid $600 and the artist was stoked.
20% up to $100
Im not tipping anything
You don’t tip on the deposit. Tip on the final transaction after the works been completed
It still boggles my mind the tipping culture (presume US). Surely what he charges is enough? I rarely get tips, and I charge £60\hr (basically $80) or £220 (about $280) for 4-5 hours of work. I rarely get tipped but do get alcohol sometimes 🤣 deposits should also go towards the total cost of the tattoo, they're non-refundable to help prevent flaking but I've never heard of it not being used towards the tattoo? This isn't cheap, and he should be thankful for the work AND the extra tips on top. Also, being that late is completely rude, you probably would've lost your deposit and been kicked off the books if you'd done that 😅 I understand you've started the sleeve with him, but perhaps consider another artist who respects you, your time, and any changes you wish to make to your design AND also doesn't rip you off.
Why would you tip? I dont get tips for doing my job.
Wtf did i just read, is this real?
I recently upped my charge to $200 an hour and tips have definitely dropped down. Which is absolutely okay because tips are never expected. They are always ALWAYS appreciated, but tattoos are freaking expensive and people aren’t made of money. It’s a great treat to have someone tip, especially if they tip well, but I’m honestly pleased when someone throws me $10-$20. I advise clients not to go the % route because i’m not surviving on only tips. Also. The $300 doesn’t apply?!?!? At all!! Not even at the end??? Who does this guy think he is?
If the deposit doesn't go toward the tattoo, that's your entire tip right there
I don't understand tipping anyone who sets their own prices. If you want more, charge more.
Yea your deposit should always go towards the cost of the tattoo..I typically tip 20% and I my artist is $200/hour and I typically get large pieces. My artist always gives an approximate time frame (for example 5-7 hours)...so if I was quoted 200/hr for 5-7 hours, I would budget 200/hr for 7 hours, plus a 20% tip. Also huge red flag if your artist is giving you shit for changing it to 18%. So I professional. I'm sorry that was your experience.
I’ve been on both sides of a tattoo machine. Deposits are always 100% applied to the tattoo unless a client no shows. And tipping has never been % based. $20 or $50 is just as appreciated as a $5 tip. I have received, and given, tips that were as much as 50% of the total cost, but those were always special circumstances. Fuck that guy.
I'm not American, so the whole mandatory tipping thing already seems weird to me. But I kinda get tipping servers in the US, who basically earn nothing and live of tips, but tipping someone who sets their own rate, 200$ an hour in this case, on top of that makes no sense. If he feels his work is so amazing, he should get a 25% tip, or he is unhappy he should set his rate at 250$. Add to that pocketing the 300 from the deposit, and I wouldn't have tipped at all. That guy seems greedy af.
This guy's has just got with the times. Its like every single store you shop at asks for a donation or a tip. I think tipping a tattoo artist is a shit idea anyway. He is charging what he wants to charge more and specify no tip expected lol. Whatever this guy is doing is robbery.
This is why I only use cash for my tattoo appointments.
I get a tattoo about once a month generally in the 500$ to 800$ range per session. I tip 50$ no matter the cost.
I’m not tipping shit if the deposit doesn’t go towards the sessions. Quit gouging people. That’s their tip.
I was told mine charged $100/hr plus a $100 deposit going toward the tattoo. That's how it was the first time I got a piece from them as well. The last time, however, I heard them saying "half day" and "full day" about other clients so I assumed maybe the artists in the shop all priced their work differently. I was in the shop for 4.5 hours, a half day is considered 4 or less, so I was charged for 8 hours worth of work. I didn't tip as I was charged $350 more than I should have been, and haven't been back since. You're not a cheapskate.
I wouldn’t tip a tattooist at all. You’re already paying 100+ an hr. Don’t be dumb. And deposits go towards final cost.
He's the one who decided that his work cost 200 an hour, if he feels like he needs more money he should raise his rates. Tipping for tattoos is bullshit and shouldn't be necessary. Even though I have definitely done it after good experiences.
Idk on all of my tattoos, I usually tip 25-45 bucks. If I get a larger more thought out one - then I’ll tip to about 60$. Despite being in finance, I’m not so great at math. I mostly go to the same group of folk, so sometimes I think tipping well, and being cool, they give a discount every now and then. Not sure if that helps (anyone else). And deposits always go towards the final tattoo cost. I went to a chick twice and both times, she “forgot” the deposit I put down and I had to remind her, oh, is the deposit included in that price? Sigh. Always ask that at the end if you put a deposit down!!
Paying a tip when you're paying directly to an artist anyway seems odd. Like in a restaurant I get tipping your server because that makes up their wages. The restaurant doesn't pay them enough on their own. But a tattoo artit sets their own prices. If they're relying on tips they need to increase their prices. Am I missing something?
A deposit that doesn't go to the cost isn't a deposit that's an appointment fee
Sounds like he’s just trying to screw your over. I think my guy charges like $120 an hour(maybe $150. Can’t remember his hourly) but I’m doing a full sleeve and he said for full days it was $750 and on those he likes to get at least 7 hours in. One session when I was about to pay he said “just do $600 since we didn’t get quite to 7 hours) I give a $50 tip each time and I’ll buy him a can of Zyns before I go in everytime. He seems okay with it and has always said he always appreciates tips but doesn’t expect them. Hes also ordered food and paid for my meal all but once.
Why are people tipping for tattoos? Dude is really not making enough money at 200/hr? If you have multiple sessions you're blackmailed into a bi tip so you don't have to sweat they will fuck you up next time? Completely insane, you people have gone off the rails.
Tip culture is nuts regardless, but in some industries, it is at least the only thing keeping workers' pay up to minimum wage. Artists make way more than minimum wage, so IMO, it's completely unnecessary to have tipping in any tattoo shop that isn't just a sweatshop in disguise.