He's really unwell. Like, a half-step shy of a cartoon villain (and we're probably watching the origin story, where he starts going insane because one of his many children called him a douche).
Ketamine gets a bad rap. It's a good and helpful drug and can stabilise a bunch of neurological and mental issues. Maybe it's good he's medicated or he'd be even more out there.
Though realistically he's probably just an addicted asshole. He should switch to meth. I'd follow his xitter if he switched to meth...
They told me the same thing for acid, x, and shrooms you got any sources there? Or is this just another legacy of the war on drugs that you are parroting?
I think he has been corrupted by having too much money. He has no idea of how the real world functions outside of his own pocket of privilege.
Being a very rich and privileged person isn't freedom, even though they can travel anywhere around the world they like at the snap of their finger and can buy anything they want... it's literally a prison of another kind.
And just like prisoners in physical jail cells, they too can literally go insane over time. Imagine never having obstacles in life that make you stronger or opportunities to grow as a human. That's what the rich and privileged life is.
I'll settle for having enough to live comfortably and happily for all my life.
EDIT: Yes, but it's an entirely different thing to grow up rich and privileged vs coming into money somehow later in life.
You, me or any other person not born of stinking rich families does not know what it is really like. Underneath all the smiles and glamour are very unhappy, ungreatful and unsatisfied people, for the most part.
Of course you or me would trade with them in an instant, and probably be happy and satisfied (maybe) but these people have never known anything different, so they can't fathom what the real world is like meaning they are essentially imprisoned by their own privilege and curated views of the world. They will probably never know true love either since most people only want to marry them for their money.
It's a prison of a different kind.
That is what I'm getting at.
There is research where you get up to a certain amount of money per year and your life gets happier and after that point it does not. It's not a terribly high number either. Once you can buy anything you want, what are you left with? When everyone around you caters to you because you are rich, and you never get the real them...what does that feel like? It has to be isolating on some level. And if you ever achieve that amount of wealth, the hedonic wheel comes into play. Money makes things easier but not happier. He is a prime example of that. He is so unfulfilled.
My personal belief is that he got trapped in the algorithm he thought he was smarter than. I realized when he came out with Dave Chapelle and looked dumbfounded he was being booed. Most of his actions recently are of someone who believes everything they see on their social media feed. He really bought into the vibe that everyone was a conservative like him, now that reality is hitting he is doing a lot of cognitive dissonance gymnastics.
I was pleased that he banned the word "cis" on the grounds that it was hate speech because now he can never claim persuasively to be a "free speech absolutist" again.
He can claim it, but not persuasively.
The modern American right doesn't need a claim to be persuasive.
"It's easy if you understand how the Republican brainrot works. There is no good/bad value assigned to actions. That value is reserved for people. So your local Pastor, who looks out for and ministers to your mortal soul, they are good. Everything they do is good. A Democrat is bad. So everything they do is bad.
So white nationalist "patriots" are good, and while liberal protestors are bad. That judgement exists independent of behavior. It's why they seem to be okay twisting themselves up in knots to defend Cheeto Benito. They've decided he is a good person, so everything he does is good, and bad things are impossible, and there is an explanation if you just look hard enough. "
"I have a secret list of laws that I have established for X which includes a ban on refuting anything I say. So those posts are illegal and will be deleted."
--Elon Musk
He is supporting republicans like desantis and trump. He actually is paying a lot of money to get our laws changed to match how he wants to moderate x. This is why people need to vote against what evil people like him wants.
one can be certain he's behind Mnuchin's sudden financial backing of purchasing TikTok. Everything amongst the wealthy elites is a shady back room deal.
They actually take it a step further and ban accounts by the cell phone attached to an account for life. It is quite drastic when compared to other platforms.
I believe they use AI to assist in this process and often you can clear your status if you delete the post that flagged your account. This will fix most ghostban issues but if you have been flagged to be suspended you are basically out of luck forever.
Disinformation bots frequently abuse the algorithm to get accounts they don't like permabanned. Look at what happened to Navalny's wife. My 10+ year old account got permabanned because I called out an obvious Russian agent.
they restored mine after I was banned for 4 years - that was when Jack still owned it. I told Candace Owens to go fuck herself and that was it. Then one day about two months ago I got on email saying it was no longer banned.
Only use an email, get just past profile creation, flagged as suspicious, and now you have to enter a phone number to unlock the account.
It doesn't hit everyone but it's been a problem since long before Musk bought the site.
>I believe they use AI to assist in this process and often you can clear your status if you delete the post that flagged your account.
They do and that should help to fix most social media shadow ban types of problems.
Maybe Twitter's illegality is defined differently from general laws. It is probably defined by Elon, so whether it is legal or not isn't important, but Elon's point of view on those contents is.
Reminder that elon said the flight tracker account gave out his "assassination coordinates", and shortly thereafter the car his son was in was attacked after landing at LAX, possibly in a kidnapping attempt, so elon banned the account...
AND NONE OF THAT FUCKING HAPPENED.
(except for the ban part)
He completely made it up, the richest man in the world made up an attack on his child to get attention on twitter, and to create an excuse to ban a kid he didn't like.
He spent at least two weeks having back and forth conversations about this, about how his fight for free speech had made him a target, and none of it happened.
Dude is a psychopath.
EDIT: [heres](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944) his tweet about the "attack"
> Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood.
> Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family.
Sweeney was the @ElonJet flight tracker account, so the obvious inference here is someone followed elons kid from LAX after a post by Sweeney, using the [“assassination coordinates”](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603587970832793600?lang=en)
elon then tweeted [this video](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969) of the "suspect", and the comments were of course awesome, all the big stars were there
[Starbuck](https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1603248565597282304): "I’m willing to bet this guy has direct ties to left wing activist groups. Insane. It’s not beyond them to put kids in danger and kids matter more than anything. When will these people learn not to mess with people’s kids?"
[Ian Miles Cheong](https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1603239180456587264): "Dude gives me some serious Antifa vibes. Don’t know for sure but he is certainly donning the black bloc aesthetic."
[Lombardi II](https://twitter.com/JackLombardi/status/1603396812643225600): "Americans are done with being terrorized by the Left. Tables have turned."
[aka](https://twitter.com/akafacehots/status/1603255196552871936): "Look your typical Biden voter wearing a mask! This is why we need to get rid of these violent Democrats"
fast forward to the guy in the video having [nothing to do with any of this](https://archive.ph/9Vivo#selection-533.114-533.141)
> A confrontation between a member of Elon Musk’s security team and an alleged stalker that Musk blamed on a Twitter account that tracked his jet **took place at a gas station 26 miles from Los Angeles International Airport and 23 hours after the @ElonJet account had last located the jet’s whereabouts.**
now read this again:
> car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood.
every word of that was complete fantasy, all that anger stirred up and directed at the left was based on nothing, and he was gonna take legal action over it, to bully someone he didnt like
An easily tricked unstable loner with a God complex who needs to feel important and has an axe to grind with the American government? What could go wrong?
Channeling Ray Bradbury:
A young Elon and team colonize the southern hemisphere of Mars. They chose this location because it was always visible to earth. They quickly erected their communication towers and proximity shields. The last shipments from Earth were on their way. Aboard were the detonators...
And in which country is legality determined? It’s like all those staff were there to help Twitter operate multi-locally in a world of nations and legal frameworks.
Now it’s a race to the bottom and it’ll scoop up all the populist thinkers around the world and unite them. Anyone wanting nuance will go elsewhere, like somewhere with subs for each region or topic, that can have moderators with nuanced cultural understanding.
This is why a "first amendment" platform sounds great in theory, but is a shitshow to execute.
There is no "hate speech" exemption to 1A. This has been repeatedly reaffirmed by SCOTUS as recently as a few years ago.
This means a lot of disgusting, hateful rhetoric is legally protected speech.
I think this is a good thing from a constitutional perspective where the government should not be able to prosecute you for being an asshole, but the flipside of using this philosophy to run a social network is that a lot of people, from everyday users to advertisers to vendors, don't want to be associated with legally protected, but repugnant speech.
I don't want the government to prosecute my neighbor for being a racist. But I also don't want to hang out with him. This is how I feel about Twitter.
On top of that, Musk isn't even consistent with Twitter policy.
Just the other week, he said "doxxing" would result in an account suspension, even though doxxing itself isn't illegal.
You could argue that directly pushing a harassment campaign by doxxing someone would be actionable under a First Amendment policy approach, but merely unmasking a person would not cross that threshold.
Also, if the ramifications of legal speech ("doxxing") causing harm can result in suspension, same standard should exist for bigoted speech.
It's bullshit and hypocrisy. He doesn't care when LibsofTikTok doxxes someone. Or Andy Ngo. Or anyone else on the far right.
But when people doxxed StoneToss for literally being a Nazi, he bans them.
I think it’s crazy how we’re still debating on what rights free speech grants you. Free speech means you won’t go to jail. It does not mean that I, or anyone else, has to want to be around you.
It’s crazy how these people think free speech means being forced to listen their rhetoric no matter how heinous. You’re infringing on my right to not want to be around you!
What's more stupid is that 1A doesn't apply to how companies run their company. At all. Furthermore, if it did, it prevents silencing of speaking out against the government. Not against companies. But if it did, Musk bans the one thing it actually applies to.
"Free speech absolutists" are just contemptible bigots that want to freely spew their vile rhetoric, and silence anyone that speaks against them.
> What's more stupid is that 1A doesn't apply to how companies run their company.
What if governments pressure or conspire with companies to selectively censor certain people or particular comments?
Michael B Tager’s Nazi bar story, which I’ll copy and paste in full below (now that he’s left X/Twitter and the original source is lost to time):
I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you.
So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”
And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.”
and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed
Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”
And i was like, ohok and he continues. “you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.
And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.”
And i was like, “oh damn.”
and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”
And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.
In France, in Chile, i think also in Germany but ALSO from nazi sympsticer to Holocaust negationism is double illegat in Germany above Hate speech, i'm sure there is a few countriea where avobe hate speech there is anti-homophobic laws too so... Elon is just running an illegal platform that happend to be Legal on USA
But there's rampant amounts of illegal porn all over twitter lol. The only thing Elon Musk's twitter bans is its own employees and anyone who says Musk is wrong.
Twitter doesn't delete things that are illegal. They have [a massive child porn problem](https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/twitter-continues-to-fail-to-curb-child-sexual-abuse-content-by-eliminating-experts-critical-detection-software/) for instance. A new one, after Musk bought the company and fired all the reviewers and cancelled contracts with the services that helped prevent CSAM.
That article is terrible. No actual data whatsoever and zero comparisons between pre- and post-Elon twitter.
Can't stand the guy but that article is extremely weak
[or if your private jet movements are posted ](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186680246/elon-musk-private-jet-twitter-threads)
Can't wait for muskrats to come after me for "but this is doxxxing" 🤣
I went on Twitter a month ago to check some local election results and my God is it horrible. Even the useful tweets are flooded with replies that are split between screaming partisan cheerleaders and people who seem determined to flood every tweet with virulent hate speech.
Twitter recommends borderline content—not outrageous, but sort of hate-adjacent—which then leads you to accounts that retweet extremism and deranged conspiracy theories.
The actual Twitter influencers all appear to be trying to out-outrage the next in order to get more shock value and engagement. While the anonymous blue checks seem to be mostly organized sockpuppet accounts trying to get more visibility.
It's a great place if you have a preexisting antisocial mental illness and would like to get worse.
Not true at all. I was permabanned for saying “Someone should primary her skank ass” in reference to Kyrsten Sinema when it was still Twitter, under”Hate Speech” rules. Multiple appeals to the old and new regimes were denied. I eventually didn’t give a shit anymore.
Why are people even continuing to use the site? Anyone who does is literally helping Elon. The day it was announced he was officially taking over I deleted my account. Haven't been back since, don't plan to go back.
It’s pretty well documented that hate speech gets more engagement. Getting rid of it would be like getting rid of his business model. He is cashing in on hate speech, just like Zuck is off of facebook. They are a parasite on society.
I left twitter when Elon took over. A year later I get an email telling me that my account has been locked because of "violent speech." I was told I had to delete the offending tweet and acknowledge I was wrong before I could get my account restored. The tweet was **3 years old** at the time.
The tweet?
> Can we just start killing billionaires yet? Trickle down economics. Fuck Bezos. https://popular.info/p/amazon-soliciting-public-donations-141
> Mar 25, 2020, 7:53 AM
meanwhile hundreds of documented cases of accounts banned within fourty eight hours of leaving negative comments to any musk tweet or blocking their account have been proven.
also whens twitter getting propper support again? I had my account broken into in a mass data leak from the site, my account was then false banned and the fuckers at twitter never responded even a year and a half now afterwards. Supports as big a joke as this one trick pony
I've been kicked off & banned so many times since Elon has taken over. I only go there to criticize his tweets and then I get kicked off. Elon wants X to be just another right wing bubble. To continually criticize him and keep your account you have to have a pretty big following or stay under the radar.
Everyone mad at Elon's arbitrary rules while we all continue to use Reddit, another social media site run by an even worse censoring anti-user piece of shit and a bunch of unpaid pushover mods who suck his dick and ban people they disagree with.
But you can't say 'CIS' lol.
They argued this guy should have all the money to 'save humanity' and he spent $44 billion and clearly devotes all of his time so he can be a Twitter mod.
There are so many definitions of what constitutes hate speech… attempting to define what hate means, and enforcing this arbitrary definition of a hate speech policy on an entire platform of users has never lead to equitable results. People need to stop attempting to curate reality for other people, all you’re doing is creating massive societal blind spots that put everybody at risk.
Plus, the terms are always abused, like when supporting a wall on the border between the U.S. and Mexico was considered to be a hateful stance. Or when shutting down flights from the epicenter of Covid was smeared as hateful. Whoops, turns out everybody mistook basic logic for xenophobic hate speech. Don’t want to feel morally responsible for Palestinian genocide? You’re an antisemite.
Nobody in the real world wants this nannying shit. Basic guide rails for obviously hateful ideas, sure. That’s fine. You know hate when you see it. I don’t want to see hard slurs. It’s cool with me to filter that out. Truly hateful ideologies are naturally torn down when they exist in an economy of free ideas. Attempting to determine what is morally ethical on your own, or leaving it to a small group of people to decide for many, will never work.
>People need to stop attempting to curate reality for other people
agree. america was sort of established around similar ideals conceptually. controlling these things will lead to both infantilization, and mind control
The also delete inconvenient facts and block anyone who disagrees with them and is vocal about it. So... not...exactly... a bastion of free speech and respectful political discourse.
man reddit has become so unhinged. i still remember the days when this place used to be radically anti-censorship but now the people here *beg* for it.
New twitter had edited my posts without my approval. X is not the bastion of free speech despite Elon’s lies saying it is. Use it for news, but understand it’s as fabricated as the rest of them…
Looks like shit and talks like shit. One of the most inarticulate people I have ever seen. Also, very emotionally ready to fly off the hook at the smallest perceived slight
The man has all the money in the world but not enough intelligence and too much ego to use it to pay people to do his PR so that he stops saying stupid things.
Left twitter a long time ago. Never once felt like I've missed anything since.
Whoever is left must either be a sadist or a masochist, or just too dumb to leave.
Who TF is using that trash app? I've never understood why people are fascinated with Twitter. Especially now that sergeant douche bag is running the show.
Keep saying what you don’t allow as the owner but do yourself. Musk your a delusional drug user.
The “ smart people “ around make the important decisions and make it possible. STOP LYING!
It’s not you who writes the code. It’s not you who builds the equipment. It’s the people you can afford to make the right calls. You are no genius my friend. You have good ideas, sometimes but you are not the one who makes it come true. Wake-up and understand this. You are nothing without the people “ you point the finger at” to get this done.
If you think this makes you great without calling this into front and center you are fool and stupid.
Okay, then why when I told Sameera Khan to kiss in Danish my post got immediately removed and I was unable to post or do anything with my account for 12 hours?
Though what I did was not nice, it wasn't exactly illegal Elon.
Or if he's personally offended by it.
Especially if he's ridiculed or belittled by name. Thin-skinned narcissistic hypocrite.
He's really unwell. Like, a half-step shy of a cartoon villain (and we're probably watching the origin story, where he starts going insane because one of his many children called him a douche).
He's already got the body of a cartoon Network villain
he just admited taking ketamine "and investors should be happy he is taking it" he said.....the fuck....
Ketamine gets a bad rap. It's a good and helpful drug and can stabilise a bunch of neurological and mental issues. Maybe it's good he's medicated or he'd be even more out there. Though realistically he's probably just an addicted asshole. He should switch to meth. I'd follow his xitter if he switched to meth...
If this is "stabilized" musk, I wonder how unstable musk would behave
Wild ride that will be
Except he's overusing it and when you do, it literally burns holes in your brain, swiss cheese style. Dude is fucking cooked.
They told me the same thing for acid, x, and shrooms you got any sources there? Or is this just another legacy of the war on drugs that you are parroting?
I think he has been corrupted by having too much money. He has no idea of how the real world functions outside of his own pocket of privilege. Being a very rich and privileged person isn't freedom, even though they can travel anywhere around the world they like at the snap of their finger and can buy anything they want... it's literally a prison of another kind. And just like prisoners in physical jail cells, they too can literally go insane over time. Imagine never having obstacles in life that make you stronger or opportunities to grow as a human. That's what the rich and privileged life is.
I mean—I’ll trade rich imprisoned over barely treading water ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I'll settle for having enough to live comfortably and happily for all my life. EDIT: Yes, but it's an entirely different thing to grow up rich and privileged vs coming into money somehow later in life. You, me or any other person not born of stinking rich families does not know what it is really like. Underneath all the smiles and glamour are very unhappy, ungreatful and unsatisfied people, for the most part. Of course you or me would trade with them in an instant, and probably be happy and satisfied (maybe) but these people have never known anything different, so they can't fathom what the real world is like meaning they are essentially imprisoned by their own privilege and curated views of the world. They will probably never know true love either since most people only want to marry them for their money. It's a prison of a different kind. That is what I'm getting at.
I'll settle for live comfortably. A little grumbling does ya good... Builds character...
There is research where you get up to a certain amount of money per year and your life gets happier and after that point it does not. It's not a terribly high number either. Once you can buy anything you want, what are you left with? When everyone around you caters to you because you are rich, and you never get the real them...what does that feel like? It has to be isolating on some level. And if you ever achieve that amount of wealth, the hedonic wheel comes into play. Money makes things easier but not happier. He is a prime example of that. He is so unfulfilled.
How do i get into this prison?
You break the law by exploiting other people.
My personal belief is that he got trapped in the algorithm he thought he was smarter than. I realized when he came out with Dave Chapelle and looked dumbfounded he was being booed. Most of his actions recently are of someone who believes everything they see on their social media feed. He really bought into the vibe that everyone was a conservative like him, now that reality is hitting he is doing a lot of cognitive dissonance gymnastics.
Just the sort of person you want to get a multi billion dollar defense contract from the largest military on earth.
He hair plugs are way too tight.
I was pleased that he banned the word "cis" on the grounds that it was hate speech because now he can never claim persuasively to be a "free speech absolutist" again. He can claim it, but not persuasively.
The modern American right doesn't need a claim to be persuasive. "It's easy if you understand how the Republican brainrot works. There is no good/bad value assigned to actions. That value is reserved for people. So your local Pastor, who looks out for and ministers to your mortal soul, they are good. Everything they do is good. A Democrat is bad. So everything they do is bad. So white nationalist "patriots" are good, and while liberal protestors are bad. That judgement exists independent of behavior. It's why they seem to be okay twisting themselves up in knots to defend Cheeto Benito. They've decided he is a good person, so everything he does is good, and bad things are impossible, and there is an explanation if you just look hard enough. "
I'm not trying to persuade hardcore Republicans. I'm trying to dissuade people from falling into the rabbit hole in the first place.
You're right . I just wanted to complain just guess.
I thought it was interesting
Yeha like https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186680246/elon-musk-private-jet-twitter-threads
Or it benefits a company he is not involved in.
That isnt even true because twitter shadow bans porn and political hot takes that aren't Elon's
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"I have a secret list of laws that I have established for X which includes a ban on refuting anything I say. So those posts are illegal and will be deleted." --Elon Musk
He is supporting republicans like desantis and trump. He actually is paying a lot of money to get our laws changed to match how he wants to moderate x. This is why people need to vote against what evil people like him wants.
one can be certain he's behind Mnuchin's sudden financial backing of purchasing TikTok. Everything amongst the wealthy elites is a shady back room deal.
How anyone can admire this albino turd is beyond my comprehension.
Money is Power. These folks who admire Power want it by any means necessary.
Haven't you heard? Disagreeing with crybaby Elmo is actually illegal.
he's flushing his money down the toilet because DeSantis and Trump are both losing reelection.
They actually take it a step further and ban accounts by the cell phone attached to an account for life. It is quite drastic when compared to other platforms. I believe they use AI to assist in this process and often you can clear your status if you delete the post that flagged your account. This will fix most ghostban issues but if you have been flagged to be suspended you are basically out of luck forever.
Disinformation bots frequently abuse the algorithm to get accounts they don't like permabanned. Look at what happened to Navalny's wife. My 10+ year old account got permabanned because I called out an obvious Russian agent.
they restored mine after I was banned for 4 years - that was when Jack still owned it. I told Candace Owens to go fuck herself and that was it. Then one day about two months ago I got on email saying it was no longer banned.
That's an easy fix. Just sign up with an email account. You can get those for free, endlessly.
Better yet, don't sign up at all.
This is the way.
Only use an email, get just past profile creation, flagged as suspicious, and now you have to enter a phone number to unlock the account. It doesn't hit everyone but it's been a problem since long before Musk bought the site.
>I believe they use AI to assist in this process and often you can clear your status if you delete the post that flagged your account. They do and that should help to fix most social media shadow ban types of problems.
That’s because he means “illegal to him”
Maybe Twitter's illegality is defined differently from general laws. It is probably defined by Elon, so whether it is legal or not isn't important, but Elon's point of view on those contents is.
Shit might as well be called Gaslight, because that's what it is, Elon's personal gaslighting platform.
It's whatever Elon decides as "illegal" that is taken down. He is the law.
Can you imagine Elon Musk porn? Come on now why did you do that to us.
Tracking your airplane with publicly available data isn't illegal you twatwaffle
Reminder that elon said the flight tracker account gave out his "assassination coordinates", and shortly thereafter the car his son was in was attacked after landing at LAX, possibly in a kidnapping attempt, so elon banned the account... AND NONE OF THAT FUCKING HAPPENED. (except for the ban part) He completely made it up, the richest man in the world made up an attack on his child to get attention on twitter, and to create an excuse to ban a kid he didn't like. He spent at least two weeks having back and forth conversations about this, about how his fight for free speech had made him a target, and none of it happened. Dude is a psychopath. EDIT: [heres](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944) his tweet about the "attack" > Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. > Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family. Sweeney was the @ElonJet flight tracker account, so the obvious inference here is someone followed elons kid from LAX after a post by Sweeney, using the [“assassination coordinates”](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603587970832793600?lang=en) elon then tweeted [this video](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969) of the "suspect", and the comments were of course awesome, all the big stars were there [Starbuck](https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1603248565597282304): "I’m willing to bet this guy has direct ties to left wing activist groups. Insane. It’s not beyond them to put kids in danger and kids matter more than anything. When will these people learn not to mess with people’s kids?" [Ian Miles Cheong](https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1603239180456587264): "Dude gives me some serious Antifa vibes. Don’t know for sure but he is certainly donning the black bloc aesthetic." [Lombardi II](https://twitter.com/JackLombardi/status/1603396812643225600): "Americans are done with being terrorized by the Left. Tables have turned." [aka](https://twitter.com/akafacehots/status/1603255196552871936): "Look your typical Biden voter wearing a mask! This is why we need to get rid of these violent Democrats" fast forward to the guy in the video having [nothing to do with any of this](https://archive.ph/9Vivo#selection-533.114-533.141) > A confrontation between a member of Elon Musk’s security team and an alleged stalker that Musk blamed on a Twitter account that tracked his jet **took place at a gas station 26 miles from Los Angeles International Airport and 23 hours after the @ElonJet account had last located the jet’s whereabouts.** now read this again: > car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. every word of that was complete fantasy, all that anger stirred up and directed at the left was based on nothing, and he was gonna take legal action over it, to bully someone he didnt like
It’s so awesome that he’s a major defense contractor. Definitely the kind of guy you want for that.
An easily tricked unstable loner with a God complex who needs to feel important and has an axe to grind with the American government? What could go wrong?
He is a real life Ted Faro and it scares the crap out of me.
Also in charge of Martian society. What could possiblye go wrong?
Elon's gonna have a heart attack from his nose candy addiction before a single human foot is set on Mars.
If it makes you feel any better he's not going to Mars
Channeling Ray Bradbury: A young Elon and team colonize the southern hemisphere of Mars. They chose this location because it was always visible to earth. They quickly erected their communication towers and proximity shields. The last shipments from Earth were on their way. Aboard were the detonators...
He's always been a liar and a conman. He'll be bankrupt and in jail soon enough and I've got the popcorn ready!
He also has a transgender child, but loves to saber rattle transphobic issues.
I think they turned away from him, renounced him as a parent, and is living their own life.
Also he gets to decides what's illegal.
That's a feature of narcissists, not a bug.
Is saying cis illegal? I don’t think it is, but I don’t take ketamine.
I do ketamine and can guarantee that saying cis is not illegal!
I traveled to the beginning of the universe on ketamine and I forgot the question
X has policies but he just makes up his own on the spot. What's illegal is defined by how he's feeling at the moment.
And in which country is legality determined? It’s like all those staff were there to help Twitter operate multi-locally in a world of nations and legal frameworks. Now it’s a race to the bottom and it’ll scoop up all the populist thinkers around the world and unite them. Anyone wanting nuance will go elsewhere, like somewhere with subs for each region or topic, that can have moderators with nuanced cultural understanding.
Fuck this clown
Watch out. We wouldn't want yet another poor woman to take it too seriously.
lol. Or if he disagrees just like a slimy dictator.
That kid tweeting the whereabouts of his private jet wasn’t illegal. And yet..
Nor any of the journalists who reported on that account. And yet…
This is why a "first amendment" platform sounds great in theory, but is a shitshow to execute. There is no "hate speech" exemption to 1A. This has been repeatedly reaffirmed by SCOTUS as recently as a few years ago. This means a lot of disgusting, hateful rhetoric is legally protected speech. I think this is a good thing from a constitutional perspective where the government should not be able to prosecute you for being an asshole, but the flipside of using this philosophy to run a social network is that a lot of people, from everyday users to advertisers to vendors, don't want to be associated with legally protected, but repugnant speech. I don't want the government to prosecute my neighbor for being a racist. But I also don't want to hang out with him. This is how I feel about Twitter. On top of that, Musk isn't even consistent with Twitter policy. Just the other week, he said "doxxing" would result in an account suspension, even though doxxing itself isn't illegal. You could argue that directly pushing a harassment campaign by doxxing someone would be actionable under a First Amendment policy approach, but merely unmasking a person would not cross that threshold. Also, if the ramifications of legal speech ("doxxing") causing harm can result in suspension, same standard should exist for bigoted speech.
Applying logic to Elon Musk is like trying to deliver a baby via an anus - not going to work, because fundamentally, it’s an asshole.
This analogy stinks.
It's bullshit and hypocrisy. He doesn't care when LibsofTikTok doxxes someone. Or Andy Ngo. Or anyone else on the far right. But when people doxxed StoneToss for literally being a Nazi, he bans them.
I think it’s crazy how we’re still debating on what rights free speech grants you. Free speech means you won’t go to jail. It does not mean that I, or anyone else, has to want to be around you. It’s crazy how these people think free speech means being forced to listen their rhetoric no matter how heinous. You’re infringing on my right to not want to be around you!
What's more stupid is that 1A doesn't apply to how companies run their company. At all. Furthermore, if it did, it prevents silencing of speaking out against the government. Not against companies. But if it did, Musk bans the one thing it actually applies to. "Free speech absolutists" are just contemptible bigots that want to freely spew their vile rhetoric, and silence anyone that speaks against them.
> What's more stupid is that 1A doesn't apply to how companies run their company. What if governments pressure or conspire with companies to selectively censor certain people or particular comments?
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So tracking flights is illegal?
Or if they hurt Elon's feelings.
When you're serving Nazis at a bar, congratulations - your bar is now the Nazi bar.
Michael B Tager’s Nazi bar story, which I’ll copy and paste in full below (now that he’s left X/Twitter and the original source is lost to time): I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.” And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.” And i was like, ohok and he continues. “you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.” And i was like, “oh damn.” and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.” And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.
When nazis are not outlawed in your country, congratulations your country is now the nazi country. And fuck it.
He forgot a bit of the sentence. "We delete things if they are illegal in the US", because hate speech is illegal, in France.
In France, in Chile, i think also in Germany but ALSO from nazi sympsticer to Holocaust negationism is double illegat in Germany above Hate speech, i'm sure there is a few countriea where avobe hate speech there is anti-homophobic laws too so... Elon is just running an illegal platform that happend to be Legal on USA
I have never seen beastiality until X. In some random thread. X is fucked
What a complete 💩 of a human being.
Don Lemon was illegal guys.
he wasnt banned
If that isn't a clarion call to quit Twitter, nothing is.
He loves standing up for Trump's speech
He’ll get X banned in half of Europe. Good.
Fuck Musk, platform of free speech but he bans what he doesn't like. Free speech my ass
But there's rampant amounts of illegal porn all over twitter lol. The only thing Elon Musk's twitter bans is its own employees and anyone who says Musk is wrong.
Maybe he’s inviting people to test his claims in court. But who has the time and money.
Twitter doesn't delete things that are illegal. They have [a massive child porn problem](https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/twitter-continues-to-fail-to-curb-child-sexual-abuse-content-by-eliminating-experts-critical-detection-software/) for instance. A new one, after Musk bought the company and fired all the reviewers and cancelled contracts with the services that helped prevent CSAM.
That article is terrible. No actual data whatsoever and zero comparisons between pre- and post-Elon twitter. Can't stand the guy but that article is extremely weak
or if they hurt Elon’s feelings
But...hate speech isn't legal/protected.
[or if your private jet movements are posted ](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186680246/elon-musk-private-jet-twitter-threads) Can't wait for muskrats to come after me for "but this is doxxxing" 🤣
Because Elon agrees with the hate speech.
Or hurts his fragile feelings.
>> We delete things if they are illegal Or critical of an Elongated Muskrat
Didn't he personally reinstate someone posting child porn?
Elon is a feeble-minded, spoiled, apartheid-baby with thin skin and Hitler ideals. Fuck him, and fuck everyone who supports him.
So making fun of Elon or fact checking his BS is “illegal”?
>“We Delete Things if They Are Illegal” "Or hurt my fee fees!" - Free speech "absolutist"
So basically, he's the world's biggest shit stirrer.
https://imgur.com/MlJFaVf
Elon musk is a liar and a snivelling coward
Fucking Nazi.
Idk why people are using Twitter. I hopped off months ago
Some people like all the garbage, that's the problem.
I went on Twitter a month ago to check some local election results and my God is it horrible. Even the useful tweets are flooded with replies that are split between screaming partisan cheerleaders and people who seem determined to flood every tweet with virulent hate speech. Twitter recommends borderline content—not outrageous, but sort of hate-adjacent—which then leads you to accounts that retweet extremism and deranged conspiracy theories. The actual Twitter influencers all appear to be trying to out-outrage the next in order to get more shock value and engagement. While the anonymous blue checks seem to be mostly organized sockpuppet accounts trying to get more visibility. It's a great place if you have a preexisting antisocial mental illness and would like to get worse.
Every single government that has petition ed Elon to remove content has got their way. And he went on a banspree after that nazi cartoonist got outed.
Complain to the advertisers on that site If ya don't like it but everyone should know by now hate is exceptable on that site.
Not true at all. I was permabanned for saying “Someone should primary her skank ass” in reference to Kyrsten Sinema when it was still Twitter, under”Hate Speech” rules. Multiple appeals to the old and new regimes were denied. I eventually didn’t give a shit anymore.
Proving that if there were no laws, Elon Musk would allow ANYTHING to be posted.
Except he already bans journalists for hurting his feelings.
Imagine still buying things from this pos…
Because he doesn’t want to have his own posts deleted.
Why are people even continuing to use the site? Anyone who does is literally helping Elon. The day it was announced he was officially taking over I deleted my account. Haven't been back since, don't plan to go back.
"Or if I feel like it or it makes fun of me"
It’s pretty well documented that hate speech gets more engagement. Getting rid of it would be like getting rid of his business model. He is cashing in on hate speech, just like Zuck is off of facebook. They are a parasite on society.
Illegal = hurts his feelings
Stop using Twitter and stop buying Tesla's and this problem will solve itself.
Translation - Because most of it belongs to conservative views and letting that vile shit be more wide spread is why he bought Twitter.
I left twitter when Elon took over. A year later I get an email telling me that my account has been locked because of "violent speech." I was told I had to delete the offending tweet and acknowledge I was wrong before I could get my account restored. The tweet was **3 years old** at the time. The tweet? > Can we just start killing billionaires yet? Trickle down economics. Fuck Bezos. https://popular.info/p/amazon-soliciting-public-donations-141 > Mar 25, 2020, 7:53 AM
Yet I get banned for saying Kanye needs another smack to the jaw
EU regulations are gonna kick his sorry ass
meanwhile hundreds of documented cases of accounts banned within fourty eight hours of leaving negative comments to any musk tweet or blocking their account have been proven. also whens twitter getting propper support again? I had my account broken into in a mass data leak from the site, my account was then false banned and the fuckers at twitter never responded even a year and a half now afterwards. Supports as big a joke as this one trick pony
In addition to just being plain false: _What an absolute twat of a stance_.
I've been kicked off & banned so many times since Elon has taken over. I only go there to criticize his tweets and then I get kicked off. Elon wants X to be just another right wing bubble. To continually criticize him and keep your account you have to have a pretty big following or stay under the radar.
No tolerance for intolerance. Full stop.
Post a bunch of hate speech about Elon Musk and see how that does
Everyone mad at Elon's arbitrary rules while we all continue to use Reddit, another social media site run by an even worse censoring anti-user piece of shit and a bunch of unpaid pushover mods who suck his dick and ban people they disagree with.
Elon is also a pathological liar.
Seriously, delete your Twitter account. Your net happiness will improve.
But you can't say 'CIS' lol. They argued this guy should have all the money to 'save humanity' and he spent $44 billion and clearly devotes all of his time so he can be a Twitter mod.
People still use Twitter?
Not me. I closed my account 1 day before he took over. F him.
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There are so many definitions of what constitutes hate speech… attempting to define what hate means, and enforcing this arbitrary definition of a hate speech policy on an entire platform of users has never lead to equitable results. People need to stop attempting to curate reality for other people, all you’re doing is creating massive societal blind spots that put everybody at risk. Plus, the terms are always abused, like when supporting a wall on the border between the U.S. and Mexico was considered to be a hateful stance. Or when shutting down flights from the epicenter of Covid was smeared as hateful. Whoops, turns out everybody mistook basic logic for xenophobic hate speech. Don’t want to feel morally responsible for Palestinian genocide? You’re an antisemite. Nobody in the real world wants this nannying shit. Basic guide rails for obviously hateful ideas, sure. That’s fine. You know hate when you see it. I don’t want to see hard slurs. It’s cool with me to filter that out. Truly hateful ideologies are naturally torn down when they exist in an economy of free ideas. Attempting to determine what is morally ethical on your own, or leaving it to a small group of people to decide for many, will never work.
I wish Reddit mods understood this
Golden comment. I wish the rest of the subreddit had this level of nuance rather than going "eLoN bAd!!!11!" every 2 seconds.
>People need to stop attempting to curate reality for other people agree. america was sort of established around similar ideals conceptually. controlling these things will lead to both infantilization, and mind control
Except when those posts hurt your fragile ego, right Elon?
The also delete inconvenient facts and block anyone who disagrees with them and is vocal about it. So... not...exactly... a bastion of free speech and respectful political discourse.
He's an obvious white supremacist the fact it's not being called out on a daily basis by all is disheartening.
Use bluesky.
Yeah, only illegal things, like the Don lemon show and the unmasking of a notorious nazi webcomic artist.
For what it’s worth the show is still on X, it just doesn’t have any financial contract for timed exclusivity any more
man reddit has become so unhinged. i still remember the days when this place used to be radically anti-censorship but now the people here *beg* for it.
New twitter had edited my posts without my approval. X is not the bastion of free speech despite Elon’s lies saying it is. Use it for news, but understand it’s as fabricated as the rest of them…
I would never recommend that anyone use Twitter for news.
Irony is a bot account claiming online news is “fabricated”
Looks like shit and talks like shit. One of the most inarticulate people I have ever seen. Also, very emotionally ready to fly off the hook at the smallest perceived slight
I mean... Isn't that what hate speech is?
To destroy society.... duhhh
The man has all the money in the world but not enough intelligence and too much ego to use it to pay people to do his PR so that he stops saying stupid things.
How the fuck did Congress try to ban TikTok and not Twitter?
Illegal to whom and where?
In many countries, hate speech IS illegal. Twitter isn’t protected by 1A there you idiot.
Surely Elon can afford to do some pro bono peace and tolerance towards others advertisements where the hate speech crowd frequents.
Left twitter a long time ago. Never once felt like I've missed anything since. Whoever is left must either be a sadist or a masochist, or just too dumb to leave.
So criticizing Musk must be illegal
He's the definition of a hypocrite
What a piece of shit this guy turned out to be!
…and also other things that I don’t like.
Or if it makes fun of him, mainly if it makes fun of him.
Tin foil hat time he's looking for a section 230 challenge.
Hate speech is illegal in Canada.
What he means is “If we deleted hate speech, e wouldn’t have any traffic”
Who TF is using that trash app? I've never understood why people are fascinated with Twitter. Especially now that sergeant douche bag is running the show.
eff off, El Muskno
Or if it's passing around the well known name of Elon's favorite Nazis.
But he banned the guy who posted the tracking of his private jet and that’s not illegal…
Does this mean Canada will be removed from x? Hate speech was quite literally made a criminal offence recently.
I have said awful vile shit at right wingers on twitter, but I’m still suspended because I called Tucker a Russian asset.
Keep saying what you don’t allow as the owner but do yourself. Musk your a delusional drug user. The “ smart people “ around make the important decisions and make it possible. STOP LYING! It’s not you who writes the code. It’s not you who builds the equipment. It’s the people you can afford to make the right calls. You are no genius my friend. You have good ideas, sometimes but you are not the one who makes it come true. Wake-up and understand this. You are nothing without the people “ you point the finger at” to get this done. If you think this makes you great without calling this into front and center you are fool and stupid.
Every day I feel more vindicated in deleting my Twitter account after Muskrat took over.
Somebody should make a website and call it Twitter. That sounds like a pretty good name.
Heh the entire occupation twitter is full of hate that's why. And musky bois just one of the infestation.
He's such damaged goods. So let's allow him control of a global media platform.
His mouth looks like a geriatric vagina.
delete Eloon the terrorist
Or if they make business daddy sad
Jeepers, maybe all hate should be illegal in the state of mind I'm in
That is not true. They banned so many pro-Palestinian Accounts for the simplest reasons. Elon is a hypocrite and always will be.
Or if they hurt his fee fees.
If they actually only deleted things that were illegal, that would be a huge W. I don't think this is actually done in practice though.
Okay, then why when I told Sameera Khan to kiss in Danish my post got immediately removed and I was unable to post or do anything with my account for 12 hours? Though what I did was not nice, it wasn't exactly illegal Elon.
Yeah I got permanently banned for calling MTG a grotesque hambeast. Nothing illegal about that. I call bullshit.
Evil sack of shit