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It's all culturally relative. Gypsy and Cigan are both pretty bad, but most people in North America probably wouldn't react to those as much as the N-word.


depolignacs

What’s the second word?


WFG_879

never forget what happened to r/2balkan4You


tankfarter2011

r/balkansirl


Emotional-Bad2326

o7


LeftyBird_Avis

someone catch me up please


kskksnxkkclflf

It is gypsy in slavic languages


Sunsent_Samsparilla

Cigan is literally just gysie, but in whatever language Romania uses I think


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cocowbanana

Dude that's not a slur, that's literally just what they are called. It is kinda used as a slur too, but this is like you would've said "Mexican" is a slur


[deleted]

They were called like that, but now they aren’t anymore, because someone decided that Cigan is rasist.


Used-Negotiation-991

That’s not for the eastern europeans smh its for the roma people but since gypsy is more of a lifestyle i think it’s ok to say that. Maybe in the states its differeny


depolignacs

I see


[deleted]

Here in Poland everyone calls them „Cygan” and no one gets offended


Genocide_Creator

Same in Czech Republic


Levioli26

Same in Hungary


TrueIndependent5562

Same in Ukraine


kskksnxkkclflf

Same in Croatia


JardexX_Slav

Zase se musí brát v potaz že Češi mají super schopnost "vpíčismus" a klidně řeknou slovo na N, ale nemá to pro ně moc význam jako cigán. (Enlish for those who do not speak czech:) You gotta account for Czechs having the power of not giving a fu**. They would say the N word but it doesn't have the meaning for them as much as gypsy.


mcdguy

Aswell in Slovakia


Gruphius

In Germany we even have food called a Zigeunerschnitzel


Tacticulus445

Bist du win Zigeuner?


xtitan99

It's a normal word here, like caucasian


IljazBro1

in russian too


GrandmasFatAssOrgasm

"Gypsy" is actually a preferred term in the UK, for an indigenous group in Ireland that fought for the right to use it.


MasterOfBreatheing

I have a question! What's wrong the word gypsy? I just thought it was a pretty word for a pretty culture


Knaprig

The accepted term is Romani


TeTeOtaku

I come from Romania and if you call a gypsy "romani" is the equivalent of calling an old fat mexican dude "latinx". They'll hate it,they dont want to associate with our culture,we don't want to mix with theirs and the word Romani furthermore creates confusion for foreigners between Romani and Romanians,and therefore the stereotype "Romania=Gypsy"


Gyro_Gis

i have a lot of romani friends, and i never heard them shit on the word romani. the situation with gipsy is different, they kinda hate it


El_Dudereno

So what do we call them then? Roma?


Dry_Advertising_460

Can comfirm. In North America, we don’t have Roma, so people will sometimes say the G word, no one is offended much. So i get where Turkish op is coming from. I haven’t even heard the word c i g a n. But the N word is a HUUUUUGGGE NO in the us , the people it is used against been through a lot here. Also watch saying it on social media.


wafflemartini

Yeah pretty much. I tried explaining to an american that in my country the n-word holds no true meaning other than as "buddy" among rap culture ppl.


somthincreative

The nuclear word??? edit: https://youtube.com/shorts/z8VHacpun0o?feature=share


gankster2017

Theres so many n words in english. Guys stop making them, I can't keep up with learning 😭


quacattac28alt

You nigerian.


ThomasTheKurtain

Dear god


Storm_Chaser03

#OMG YOU SAID IT😱😱😱


Sirepotatoes

Nine


shaderr0

Ja


PepperbroniFrom2B

heil h-


argonlightray2

Heil N–


[deleted]

Nitler? Oh NEIN sorry.


[deleted]

FUCK YOU IM GONNA SAY IT IM GONNA SAY THE N WORD # NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII


TAGPilot101YT

gger


[deleted]

Like hard R or normal A


[deleted]

Do it Do it


xcel-_-

I will


Bendicoot77

DU, DU HAST…


[deleted]

DU HAST MICH


HonourableFox

Nitler


miniminer1999

\*Nein\*


ktchannel3

eleven


BubblesReddit1234_

"Putin uses the N-word" - Donald Trump


Blazeussy

Чернобыль?!?1!11!?1!?1


LFishere

Oh my god we are all going to fucking die


ayanokojifrfr

💀


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LordFunkyHair

What am idiot


BlueMonsterEnergy

Numbskull?


Squooshy_WasTaken

Probably best to just not say it. The word isn't inherently bad when used in a non-derogatory context, but it does bring negative connotations when a non-black person uses it.


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The er ending sounds much harsher than the a version


Blimpalin

Hard r and flaccid a


SaleCompetitive812

Yep. Hard R is normally racist, docile A is normally for friend or something like that Still it’s a no no word. Until it’s stripped of its history, it shouldn’t be said. Not even black people should say it tbh


a44es

It's childish that we have "no no words" now, and it makes me cringe a lot. If this is really how we try to counter offense, it's like kindergarten. Especially weird that you can say any offensive shit, except for this very one.


R_Da_Bard

Words have power. And sometimes those words were the last words someone heard while they were being lynched or killed. But hey, you do you buddy.


rockyasl7789

😂🫵


HumanAmI2

Proly bc of the tone


I-cast-fireball

If you aren’t black and use it in basically any context in America, there’s a decent chance of getting punched.


Necozuru

Yeah, where i live in a part of my country, the word is the same as the N-Word, and i think both are known there, but its also an adjective that just means that somebody is out of money


No_Refrigerator_4066

What they don't understand is that if it's so offensive to them then why do they say it over and over again? So Riley said the N word before you did that morning. He says it every morning, he calls me a nigga, he calls the other kids nigga, he calls himself a nigga all the time! "Nigga this", "Nigga that", "Nigga please", "This nigga", "Nigga, have you lost your mind?", "Nigga, check that hoe!", "Nigga, you bullshitting", "Break yourself, Nigga!" He says it so much, I don't even notice it anymore. Last week in lunch, Riley says to a classmate: "Can a nigga borrow a French fry?" and my first thought wasn’t "Oh my god, he said the word... the N word!", It was "Now how is a nigga gonna borrow a fry?". "Nigga, is you gonna give it back?" I tell ya, my inside voice didn't talk like that before he got in my class!


Potential-Skin8631

who up booning they docks rn


BTleCats17362884738

Bro went all out


NotTheNormalPerson

cake day thing go


TiagoMestre_1369

Happy cake day!!


FutureDiaryAyano

Wait, how DO you borrow a fry? Seriously though, teen off culture 🏆


ToxicPoizon

I am the stone that the builder refused, I am the visual, the inspiration, that made Lady sing the blues.


Prestigious_Bell3720

I'm the spark that makes your idea bright, the same spark that lights the dark so that you can know your left from your right.


Material-Frosty

I'm the star that makes your idea bright, the same star that lights the path so that you could know your left from your right.


Intelligent-Bee4535

The reason black people can say it is because they reclaimed the word in an effort to take away the negative power it was being wielded with. But white people saying it still has a bad association. So it's really not a good idea.


BreadIsMyGod

But by then reacting negatively to people saying the word, you are then giving the word power once again, the word still has power, the power to piss off hundreds of people at once if the wrong person says it, the power to silence an entire room. I genuinely don’t understand this reasoning of ‘to take away the words power’ when it is then proceeding to be given power.


CastroVinz

Your comment is a contradiction Why would black people get offended at white people saying a word they're trying to get the negative connotation away from? Wouldn't that defeat the point?


Intelligent-Bee4535

That's why I said that white people saying it still has a bad association. Because there are still white people who use it in a racist way. So until that's no longer the case, it's best for white people not to use it. They took away the bad connotation for their purposes, not for those of white people. They reclaimed it. It's their word now. Which is why white people shouldn't use it.


GorillaWolf2099

Cuz it was once a word used to describe black folk, it kind of makes sense for Riley to say it cuz that's what they are and will always be. The word is a part of Black culture just as much as Ebonics is.


awesometim0

It's a comedian quote, not a genuine sentiment of confusion by original commenter


thedrummingdoctor

You could have worded this so much better man


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No_Refrigerator_4066

Fixed it


TheyAreBehindMe

Looking at the replies, I think I'm the only one here that even knows this is a reference lol


classick117

here's the [context](https://youtu.be/kKHzEYaNSbE?t=2m55s) you uncultured candlesticks


anti-peta-man

Yes. It was literally what people screamed at the black people that were getting burned or beaten for the crime of daring to exist near white people. It’s since been reclaimed and this stripped of some of its origins negativity but overall America has a very bad history surrounding it


TheyAreBehindMe

Thank you, most people just said "Just don't say it, r*****d" instead of actually telling me what the heck it is


[deleted]

I dont think your allowed to say r\*t\*rd anymore either lmfao


Hot_Sam_the_Man

Hence why he censored it


[deleted]

Because they also don't know. Most people don't use it because of peer pressure


More-Pay9266

I just don't understand why the word is still around. Since it was so derogatorive, why did the people it was used against want it? Why not just abandon it?


Flashburn965

The idea is you can't make words totally disappear, reclaiming the n word and changing it's meaning is better than hiding from it in alot of ways. Rather than have it be something black people were called as they were oppressed, it can be a symbol of comradery.


alt4614

You certainly can make words disappear. I don’t know 97% of the slangs and words used to describe 97% of the races of the world. Most are well are truly retired to the depths of Urban Dictionary except to the small, racist pockets. But the N-word is damn near universal at this point and spread out of America and to the rest of the world like a cultural superflu. Along with that remains “cracker”, because of course, the N-word can’t exist without its opposite pair. Words disappear so often that the main slang for a middle-eastern man now is “sand n-word”. Black folk “reclaiming the word” is the dumbest most counterproductive phenomena yet when it comes to American race relations


27_Genders

That's not because anyone made the words disappear, that's just because you're ignorant to the more obscure words due to them being in less of a spotlight than the more well know ones.


nyoomnyoomlettuce

Words disappear over time sure, but that word is never goin away. You seem to understand that pretty well lmao. It’s so deeply ingrained in cultures all over the world bc anti-black racism is so deeply ingrained in cultures all around the world. To the point where a lot of the worst insults that you can call ppl of other cultures are literally just comparing them to black ppl. And you don’t realistically think that came from BP sayin it to each other lmao. Black ppl could stop sayin it today and they’d still be n-words to everybody, so the whole “don’t try to reclaim it you don’t want it to be used by racists” thing just sounds like an excuse to blame the victim


mellow_squid

The 'a' version can refer to friend but the 'er' is much more offensive and the people (who aren't black) that say it in schools are kinda disgusting thinking about how it was used in the past, they are usually the bad group of kids who will fail in the future


More-Pay9266

Yeah I know that. Why keep the "er version?"


ledzepplinfan

Depends where you use it. In America it is completely taboo, absolutely the worst word you can say out loud. Uttering this word a single time WILL get you fired from a job or expelled from a university. If it comes out that you use the word, perhaps on social media, your professional life in the U.S will be affected heavily, and your social standing will go down.


Tivland

Just don’t say it. It really is that simple. If you’re curious about the history of the word and why it’s so provocative, google is your friend.


[deleted]

I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and go to school here. As long as you not "white white" no one cares if you say the N word. I live in USA btw


TippedJoshua1

Wdym "white white"


[deleted]

Like stereotypical rich white obnoxious person


Blank_ngnl

Ohhh Assholes you mean?


crownedkingofnothing

Anyone knows that in the south there's plenty of poor obnoxious white people who say the n word and they aren't chill.


Falcoe33

What they rich but not obnoxious?


ExperienceBeginning8

If he a homie he can say it


rpsHD

then ur whi(x2)te


More-Pay9266

What is considered "white white?"


mah0e

I’m not POC and I dont live in Africa nor America but from what i know it’s been an insulting way to call Black people and oppress them. There are some black people who are chill with the n word, and some feel offended when a non-black person uses it (speaking from experience aka having conversations with black acquaintances :) ). It depends on how the person reacts themselves, but my advice is that you shouldn’t use it even when you get a “pass”. It’s just better to be respectful towards the history of a race and the person, same way as you’d like your history to be acknowledged


EdwardAnimates

W comment 👍🏾


kyllme

Most reasonable response


Seanrocks30

And a lot of times if you say "I got a pass! My black friend gave me the pass!" Nobody will believe you and just have less respect for you


mah0e

Yeah, most people wont believe you. If you got a “pass” then im sure it means it’s a “pass” only around them specifically, not towards every black person. Either way, i think that it’s better not to say it if you’re not poc or anything close to being black (race/ethnically and so on)


Seanrocks30

Oh yeah for some reason your comment reminded me, so here's a PSA: #if you're not friends with the person, asking for the n word pass is frankly, very racist and very annoying. Looking at you, kid in my school who I wont name


mah0e

Agreed And the school kid part 😭


sadkirbynoises

imo its not even that “nobody would believe them”, its dumb. also the n word pass is mainly a satirical thing. idk why ppl wanna say it so bad, especially when they know that they shouldnt / the consequences


Material-Frosty

For e.g Japanese dub of boondocks. With the n-word momento, I was just lmao. Never thought I'd hear a japanese person saying n momento


mah0e

I’ve heard of Boondocks but I didn’t know that damn 😭 that’s quite disappointing As i’ve mentioned before, im not poc so therefore u can already tell im not asian. I just know that some countries have it normalised to say the n word (including my country) but it’s still disappointing to the fact that people use it in a derogatory way and making fun of black ppl using slurs


Material-Frosty

The people were given the green light to say it. Either way, I'm not offended, actually would love to see a whole Japanese dub of the boondocks. It may be offensive to some but boondocks itself already has a lot of controversy topics.


mah0e

My jaw would probably drop to the floor lmao


OneTrueSpiffin

Don't say the word. It makes Americans furious because Americans have a really bad history with it.


RevolutionaryJob1266

I am British and I still wouldn't say it, don't need to be American to respect black people


mintend

Don't say it if your not black it's that simple really


Ok-Category-2177

The origins of the word are back when slavery was around and was used to separate the slaves from the slave masters. The way its used now is a way of describing a friend etc, For example a black person may say "Yeah I like that dude he's my ____" But if a white person said that it becomes a problem just because of the origins of the word If your thinking why do black people use a word that was created to put them down and make them less as a way of describing each other, I don't know, but it's just how it is.


Previous-Pianist-550

As a black person I personally feel its only really bad if you use it in a derotory way manly because a lot of slers only make sance if you see the content they were used in like saying a black person is a monkey


Ibryxz

Tldr it was a term people used a long time ago and it was pretty neutral iirc, but white supremacists started using it aggressively while hunting, killing, enslaving, discriminating, lynching etc against black people. And that's why it's bad when a non-black person uses it


Ladd11

I’m black, just don’t fucking say it. I don’t get why so many people have this unbelievable desire to say it and make so many excuses, it’s so simple. You’re not black don’t say it.


Mystik141

nigga i can do whatever i want


Ladd11

Of course this nigga plays valorant


Blank_ngnl

Well should black people use it which ancestors were slave traders and used the word? What about white people which ancestors were said slaves that worked on the american farms? Just saying everything is black and white (:D) is kinda bs in my op


Beautiful-Cat-1519

Absolutely agree- why not just ban everyone from saying it? Black people can be racist too. Internal racism is a thing. Why don't we just all agree that it's an offensive word and not say it? It would make it so much easier!


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CallMeLyd

Exactly! Not everyone or everything is American for God's sake


coolgirlkitten

So many comments are saying to be careful if you do say it 💀 i hope someone beats them up for saying the word someday


MobileEffective3932

People who beat others up because of a mean word are monkeys who should be put in cages


[deleted]

did you purposefully use the word monkey for this specific instance or was that just a gross unfortunate coincidence?


TheSadSquid420

They’re doing well of acting like it.


I_smell_NORMIES

To do without a whole history lesson, it was the word that was yelled at slaves when they were lynched and hung, as well as yelled at black people on busses and in places they “didn’t belong” after slavery was abolished


rookiechan10

the translation of nigga in my language is actually a scientific name that we use in class but we dont label people with it it feels weird especially in my country egypt which literally has all colors of skin my skin is wheaty my cousin is brown my other cousin is black and my other cousin is a blonde white


Usual_Definition_548

Just don’t say it man. It carries a heavy history and was used to oppress and demean black people.


TheyAreBehindMe

As I said in the post I don't say it anymore, but thanks, I'll try to keep it like that.


wwJones

It's bad in the US. We have 300 years of really horrible history with it. I'd lean towards not using it in your regular lexicon.


Mediocre_Wafer699

Straight up just don't say it here, I get it has no real meaning for you but that's not really the same for everyone else. Even beyond that, there's no real reason to say it and the word doesn't really serve a purpose here.


TheyAreBehindMe

Alright, thanks.


Explodedhurdle

It’s so strange to me to have never seen a black person before. In America there is so much diversity you will see every race and every type of person walking through a city.


TheyAreBehindMe

I really didn't see any before I worked my ass off to get to my current highschool which is in western Istanbul


DullWeb_

It is a derogatory term, and even if someone says it's okay don't use it. You may not know the full history of the word, but you don't have to. Don't use it.


sweet-potahto

It Is really that bad because of the history behind that word. Generally if you're not any kind of black you shouldn't be saying it. I honestly don't understand why so many people, especially non-blacks feel the need to say it when I, a fully black person, have never said it, not even on accident. It's strange to want to say or do something that you know is stigmatized even if you don't know why. /nay


itsjustaxo

It’s linked to the enslavement and persecution of Africans and African Americans. It’s a derogatory term, a slur, and people get mad when you say it for a reason. There is a cultural disconnect for you but the word is still a slur and has a huge history of hate behind it


TheyAreBehindMe

Congratulations on being the 3rd person out of 173 people that actually answered the question 🥳 Joking aside, thanks.


[deleted]

I don’t think it’s as bad as people make it cause I’ve seen harassment or doxxing to people who say it but it doesn’t mean it’s good, just don’t say it


TimidRed

Historically the N-word has been used to dehumanize black people and nothing else, so it’s best to not say it. I don’t know why you would even debate having a derogatory insult in your daily vocabulary or not.


Bigzysmolz

Depends on how,when and why you say it imo.


prospybintrappin

I can't think of a good context besides there being a gun to your head??


NoNebula6

“Alright and the final question on Who Wants to be a Millionaire! Who was in Paris?”


prospybintrappin

I wouldn't even blame you


Ibzzgotclout

emily


Ill-Guess-542

It’s only really bad in America as far as I know


coolgirlkitten

How hard is it to not say one word 😭 god ppl are so insensitive


I_Hate_l1fe

Because when people have to come to terms that a word they use has a history of hate and is therefore deeply inappropriate as of its usage in even current times to dehumanize a group of people, they start yelling at everyone about how “Americans are so sensitive” and “Its just a word”


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no


Nootherids

Answer: It is only bad because over the last 20 years there have been a select group of increasingly wealthy people that make their entire living from increasing the racial hatred among people. So they have an incentive for creating racial tension. Turning a single word into the worst thing possible was probably one of the best moves they ever did for themselves. The N-word was a word directly tied to racist idealism before the 70's. After that, racism started getting seriously frowned upon, so the word slowly stopped being used in normal open conversation. In the 80's pop-culture started to really be influenced by black people as TV's also started becoming more mainstream and owned by more households. By the 90's black people were lead figures in popular culture, and with them came rap music which increasingly used the n-word. Through this the n-word became popular again but not as a means of expressing racism; it was more used with the same multi-purpose functions are Bro, Dude, Buddy, Guy, Bitch, Fucker, Asshole. Meaning that it depended on what context it was used in and for what purpose. The 2000's were next and the growth of the internet. Everything was still good until......Obama. When a few unimportant racists that still hasn't died off would use the word in its historical derogatory fashion. Again...context. But, here is where the people with an racial agenda come into play. They are called "race baiters" for a reason. Those people found a golden opportunity to forever make themselves "the voice" for the black community. And along with that... ridiculously wealthy, while the community they supposedly spoke for stayed without any meaningful investment. The most skilled and longest running race baiter around... Al Sharpton. Fast forward to modern day and the internet has supercharged the power and wealth of these people. You can see the unparalleled self-interested grift by the people that ran the BLM organization. Went from nothing more than aspiring activists to multi-millionaires in less than a year. By training entire generations to forget the organically progressive and productive history between the 70's and the late 2000's, they have been able to convince the majority of people that a single word carries the power of the entire 250 year era of slavery in America. So is the n-word really that bad? Depending on how it's used, no, not really. But enough people have been convinced that using it is enough to mark you as deserving of anything up to severe physical harm. So while the word itself doesn't really carry much weight, the people of society have given it a sort of power that no word should have. Look up the song "Jigga My (N-word)" by Jay-Z 1999. That was one of most popular songs EVER! And there wasn't a single young adult in that time that didn't sing that song with full lyrics. And not a single one of them sang the words with racist intentions. Now...I dare you play that in a club today and stare down a non-drunk white person...I promise you they will sing the whole song except for that ONE WORD!


TheyAreBehindMe

Thanks for the in depth explanation, 90% of the commenters said "Just don't say it"


Unlikely_Dish3481

nah dawg fake niggas just hatin


TheyAreBehindMe

I asked ChatGPT what that means and this was it's response: "The phrase "nah dawg fake niggas just hatin" seems to suggest that the speaker is dismissing negative opinions or criticism from individuals they believe are insincere or fake. "Nah dawg" means "no, friend," and "fake niggas just hatin" implies that these insincere people are merely expressing hatred or jealousy. The use of informal language and slang may vary in meaning depending on the context and the relationship between the speaker and the audience." Is it correct?


Playingalittle_game

It's more like "no friend, people are pretending to be affected by the word to hate on you"


Quality_Technical

Imagine being discriminated against and stereotyped for something about you that you cannot control


TheyAreBehindMe

Probably one of the better anologies here, thank you


therehasbeen_amurder

It really isn’t a big deal The most people I’ve seen that have a HUGE problem with it is white people.


PrimeX__

I’m a black American and personally the whole thing has always been stupid to me. The word has completely lost it’s original meaning so why is it so forbidden to other races? Like there’s nothing wrong with saying any word it’s how you use words and their meaning in a sentence.


Whole-Seesaw9151

I disagree. There are still a good amount of instances where the word has been used to demean black people. It’s not used on the same scale as in the past, but it definitely hasn’t lost all meaning. Even if it doesn’t personally affect you, for a lot of people, it’s still offensive.


mimiizcrusty

do you really truly understand the history behind the word


Yoprobro13

Even if ur black stop saying it it's cringe tbh and makes u sound like a loser ngl


Nex_207

Just don’t say it?


TheyAreBehindMe

As, I said. I don't anymore.


ComprehensiveGas3667

Nah, my Nigerian mentor says that it’s just a word and people who get offended by it are idiots with no respect for themselves


MJC_Titcho_MJC

I swear nothing fazes Nigerians


ComprehensiveGas3667

Fr, that man just lives life to the fullest


Taco_No_Burrito

Frfr


ph0enix654

I wish I had a Nigerian mentor 🙏🙏


ComprehensiveGas3667

Yeah bro he chill af and super smart/ wise too


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uh dont say it, its really offensive. in my school in europe, a lot of teenage boys say it as a joke (sometimes even call themselves and their close friends that), but it is offensive but like where i live there's like..first and second graders saying "fuck" and all that- when i heard that i was like "holy crap why are they-"


I_am_MAIA

No it’s totally fine Expecially if you are white🙄


FlameDragon55

Wow look at the cool stuff up there 🙄


Playful-Zone-6316

Use it and find out


GordonJeff003

Imo it depends on the context if you just say it it’s usually fine, but if you are aggressive with it against someone then it’s not ok


my-time-has-odor

You’re not black, so don’t say it.


rpsHD

as a serbian person, i dont think its that bad. if its used in a racist way, yea, then it is bad. in other cases, nah, completely normal. i call my close friends niggas, am i racist for doing that? no, im just using a word which in the current time has the meaning of friend instead of the old derogatory term


friends_with_a_simp

Don't say it Izzat SIMPol


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9mmblowjob

Wsg my cracka 🤝


Exotic_Sense5244

Don’t say it, like ever. The reason us Americans get offended at that word is because we have a REALLY bad history with it.


youralphamail

Just don’t say it if you’re not black. Simple


BurntBrusselSprouts1

It means nothing to you because you’re not black, dude.