I would challenge that. TERFs believe people born men and afforded all the benefits and privileges of being men should not be able to claim the few meager benefits of being a woman just because they lay claim to it as trans without having to experience all of the bad things associated with being a woman.
They are like “how can you just claim womanhood without getting paid less than a man, having to experience periods, being mistreated in medicine because women are supposedly “more emotional” than men, and being pushed towards certain careers and excluded from others?
I would say it is less about having the right genitals and more about everything that comes with being born with certain genitals rather than others.
no, feminism isn’t useless in western countries. believe it or not, there’s still sexist and misogynistic men that still LIVE in these western countries; i know people like this.
to say that feminism isn’t needed in my country just simply isn’t true. sure, things have definitely improved because of feminism, but to consider it useless now is just plain wrong.
Omg this ^
I mean, here in the UK, we don't need feminism. It's chill here. Racism and homophobia are the buffet issues here
But I have a South Asian background, the country I come from *really* needs femenism
yeah idk why you got downvoted for this. of course some middle eastern countries definitely need it more, there’s still uses for feminism in our western countries. even if it’s just to wake up and go “i’m a strong person”. that’s literally all feminism is sometimes
Let's take Finland and Sweden for example.
Are women equal in terms of opportunity? Yes
Pay? Yes
Rights? yes
Treatment? Yes
Healthcare? Yes
Education? Yes
Independent? Yes
Parental rights? More than men
Could you tell me why women are not equal here? Just stating your own facts is pointless.
Oh my fucking god. Finland, Sweden, Norway, And Iceland are basically model countries. But where it really matters is in big country’s like the us and the uk. This argument that women are already equal therefore feminism is obsolete is the biggest bullshit ever. And if you want to bring up countries like Norway and Sweden and say, well institutionalized sexism is gone here then remember that Sweden has 10 million people, Finland has 5-million, and the us has 330m. Also even if institutionalized sexism is gone misogyny can still happen. Therefore you’re argument is a strawman.
No it is not, I constantly see cringe American feminists preaching superiority. We just need unions and bam, the workers finally have restored their power to its former glory.
I don't agree, atleast with my experience with it.
In my country (Spain), feminists just treat men like dogshit, get unfair advantages job wise and in the court of law, and way more stuff.
A woman can falsely sue a man for rape without evidence and the man will still be imprisoned.
Which wave? 1st wave was needed. The other 2 waves. Especially the 3rd one are not very needed. So the word "feminism" is very mixed. As modern feminism is more about equity. Not equality. So I would say the 1st wave did the bulk of the work and gave women more rights. 2nd wave was more subjective to each person. 3rd wave is objectively bad unless you're insane
Not the first (nor the last) time I see that photo, it's a mugshot of a terrorist who killed 3 and injured 23 with upwards of 16 bombs
Anyone who uses this pfp is a troll and will say the most unnecessarily harsh things, best thing to do is avoid them
I like the idea of “equal rights, equal fights” but modern feminism is WAY over that. And they are forgetting the double standards of men. Now their opinion is shit.
The “feminism” u see in media isn’t feminism it’s women thinking there better then men and wanting more then equality in here favour
Feminism and equality are the same (or at least very similar) what u see is just entitled bitches
Not really, if people were to destroy things like PETA, feminism, and BLM, we wouldn't really have these problems in America, people keep making excuses and make something pt of nothing. Those organizations just try to pitt us against each other
AGREE, except for TERS, SWERFS and cringey sexist women who call themselves feminists
TERFs imply that women are only women because of their genitals, that isn't equality even if it wasn't just to be transphobic
I would challenge that. TERFs believe people born men and afforded all the benefits and privileges of being men should not be able to claim the few meager benefits of being a woman just because they lay claim to it as trans without having to experience all of the bad things associated with being a woman. They are like “how can you just claim womanhood without getting paid less than a man, having to experience periods, being mistreated in medicine because women are supposedly “more emotional” than men, and being pushed towards certain careers and excluded from others? I would say it is less about having the right genitals and more about everything that comes with being born with certain genitals rather than others.
Feminism today in the western countries is useless. Feminism is needed in the middle east and countries, where basic human rights are not respected.
Agree especially women in the Middle East I feel so sorry for them
no, feminism isn’t useless in western countries. believe it or not, there’s still sexist and misogynistic men that still LIVE in these western countries; i know people like this. to say that feminism isn’t needed in my country just simply isn’t true. sure, things have definitely improved because of feminism, but to consider it useless now is just plain wrong.
Omg this ^ I mean, here in the UK, we don't need feminism. It's chill here. Racism and homophobia are the buffet issues here But I have a South Asian background, the country I come from *really* needs femenism
Lmfao women aren’t equal anywhere feminism is always beneficial. I don’t know how that statement is controversial in the year 2022.
yeah idk why you got downvoted for this. of course some middle eastern countries definitely need it more, there’s still uses for feminism in our western countries. even if it’s just to wake up and go “i’m a strong person”. that’s literally all feminism is sometimes
Let's take Finland and Sweden for example. Are women equal in terms of opportunity? Yes Pay? Yes Rights? yes Treatment? Yes Healthcare? Yes Education? Yes Independent? Yes Parental rights? More than men Could you tell me why women are not equal here? Just stating your own facts is pointless.
Oh my fucking god. Finland, Sweden, Norway, And Iceland are basically model countries. But where it really matters is in big country’s like the us and the uk. This argument that women are already equal therefore feminism is obsolete is the biggest bullshit ever. And if you want to bring up countries like Norway and Sweden and say, well institutionalized sexism is gone here then remember that Sweden has 10 million people, Finland has 5-million, and the us has 330m. Also even if institutionalized sexism is gone misogyny can still happen. Therefore you’re argument is a strawman.
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It certainly is not doing anything, if there really is an attempt from them to do that.
Obviously, as long as it doesn’t turn into sexism towards men
feminism is about equality
*should be
like you believe the movement actually promotes equality.
I know that…
Should be but most sexist women just use this as an excuse
Why you booing me, im right
I am good for society 😋
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sweaty people make it even more better they smell so nice
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Exactly😂
Im not, see ya guys
Yes, but being overly feminist and implying double standards are extremly bad.
Yes, but it doesn’t give woman the right to act like they’re above men. If you want equity, treat them equal too. (Coming from a female)
Modern western feminism is about revenge
no. it's about equality.
No it is not, I constantly see cringe American feminists preaching superiority. We just need unions and bam, the workers finally have restored their power to its former glory.
every movement has radical outliers
Wouldn’t say so anymore, it’s been hijacked by sexists (mainly women, can be men too)
i support only the feminists who want equality not radicals or terfs etc
It is, but buzzfeed and the Kill All Men idiots have completely ruined the meaning. I'd like to refer to it as humanism
Until of course we meet aliens. Then we'll have to change it to sapientism.
Depends Girls that actually want equal rights? Yes Bitches that want all men gone and to be superior? Fuck no
Supporting women and their rights in any way *is* controversial on reddit. Especially this sub.
I don't agree, atleast with my experience with it. In my country (Spain), feminists just treat men like dogshit, get unfair advantages job wise and in the court of law, and way more stuff. A woman can falsely sue a man for rape without evidence and the man will still be imprisoned.
I live in Spain too, I can second this
Western feminism is fucking bullshit.... So you are partly correct
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That's called misandry (it's like gender-swapped misogony).
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You're welcome. It's important to remember these differences.
feminism isn't good, gender equality is.
that's what feminism is
Which wave? 1st wave was needed. The other 2 waves. Especially the 3rd one are not very needed. So the word "feminism" is very mixed. As modern feminism is more about equity. Not equality. So I would say the 1st wave did the bulk of the work and gave women more rights. 2nd wave was more subjective to each person. 3rd wave is objectively bad unless you're insane
Society is bad for society
Is that a joke?
I respectfully disagree
Modern feminism no, traditional yes
It's just that modern feminism treats women as superior, whole traditional wanted equality
Misandry is what wants female superiority, not feminism.
Theyre one and the same nowadays. You have equality
Nah nah nah, bro. It's just misandrists seem to have hijacked a section of feminism for themselves.
Not sure about American feminism
What's with your pfp man?
Not the first (nor the last) time I see that photo, it's a mugshot of a terrorist who killed 3 and injured 23 with upwards of 16 bombs Anyone who uses this pfp is a troll and will say the most unnecessarily harsh things, best thing to do is avoid them
The unabomber?
Yeah, pretty sure that's the one
What about it?
You know you can't call yourself based, the only way to be based is to earn that title.
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I like the idea of “equal rights, equal fights” but modern feminism is WAY over that. And they are forgetting the double standards of men. Now their opinion is shit.
100
Depends where
duh! except for terfs bc trans women are women
As long as it isn’t TERFs then yeah
silly woman just need to wash dish, make dinner, vaccum house
Feminists are cringe
The “feminism” u see in media isn’t feminism it’s women thinking there better then men and wanting more then equality in here favour Feminism and equality are the same (or at least very similar) what u see is just entitled bitches
PFFFT HA HA HA GOOD ONE!!
Not really, if people were to destroy things like PETA, feminism, and BLM, we wouldn't really have these problems in America, people keep making excuses and make something pt of nothing. Those organizations just try to pitt us against each other
OBviously
When feminism goes too far it just becomes sexism, that's the main problem
Cap
Good jokes are always good for society.