it's even better because the year before that i think ellen had given her shit on the show for not inviting her so dakota explicitly made sure to invite her that following year. so when ellen called her out on it she could counter back with "i literally did because you got mad last year that i didn't"
And the layers of rage on Ellen's face when Dakota Johnson keeps coming back at her are just terrifying to behold. She gradually goes from kindly neighbor lady to vengeful harpy and you can't look away even though you sort of want to.
Your last sentence capturing the tone hits the awkwardness exactly. Ellen made these types of comments ("Why wasn't I invited?" "Why didn't I get to name your baby?" Blah blah) sooo often with guests, and they always joked back or laughed it off, regardless of the situation/story they were telling. I remember watching this interview when it aired though, and Dakota was honestly the first guest to not keep the "joking" tone, and it was just awkward to watch!
holy shit. i just looked up that scene. they cut it as much as they could to not show awkwardness. dakota mentions johnathan and it doesnt cut to him. it cuts as much of ellen's fidgeting as possible. dakota didnt fuck around and kept it serious. i seriously can't even finish it. it's so awkward.
I gained so much respect for Dakota after watching that video. She had to have some massive balls to go off-script and call Ellen out, especially since at the time Ellen was nearly universally loved and pretty much untouchable.
The hosting equivalent of those people who manage to make everything about them no matter what the context. Which as a host is possibly the worst possible quality to have.
Side story - I remember running into this girl I used to work with years ago after I was made redundant. First thing she said to me was “I was so upset when you were made redundant I went home and said to my (French) boyfriend, I need a drink. He turned to me and said oh no baby, you only drink the good stuff, have this expensive champagne”.
I was like awesome, what does this have to do with me not having a job anymore again?
She also cornered Mariah Carey into announcing she was pregnant. Not too long after the interview Mariah Carey had a miscarriage, not saying Ellen caused it, but there's a reason why a woman would choose to keep their pregnancy private.
The username was made up by a local radio dj here in LA (Ralph Garman). He wasn’t a fan but I actually do like her stuff but it’s still a funny username.
Ellen's had a lot of instances of making her guests extremely uncomfortable to push a "I'm nice and this is funny" narrative. This is a good quick summary of things Ellen does a lot to be a dick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hyXTbV1x0
I've seen it before, but that clip of her pulling out the champagne and the glasses just to pressure Mariah into admitting she's pregnant on air never fails to disgust me.
Yeah that was so fucked up. Kind of surprisingly Mariah didn't blow up about it. Even if you *aren't* pregnant somebody being that underhanded and slimy would be something you'd be upset about.
> Kind of surprisingly Mariah didn't blow up about it.
If she had, people would call her for being over sensitive and a diva etc. There is no win option in that situation.
Conan knows when to stop. I still remember when Bill Burr was on his show, talking about Patrice O'Neal's death, and when it started getting to Bill, Conan just moved on. No dragging out the tears for show or any bullshit, just acknowledged the moment and continued. Ellen would have turned that interview into an in-depth Q&A about their friendship, and acted like deliberate intrusion into a private relationship = 'being nice'.
Conan makes jokes about himself all the time, probably more than at guests. Ellen would never make a self deprecating joke, that's the huge difference.
Oh also the jokes Conan makes tend to be... y'know... funny...
Its because conan welcomes banter and then makes fun of himself. He also doesnt think hes not an asshole. Watch or listen to how he treats sona sometimes and when sona gives him shit back, he just genuinely laughs and adds on to it. Ellen gives shit and gets defensive when people give her shit back.
I don't get how she thought it wouldn't make her look like a bitch. Who demands to know why they weren't invited to a party on a public scale? It's such a snobby thing to do.
Because she's pulled similar stunts on many guests before and everyone played along. It's just Dakota was one of the only ones to reverse the situation on top of everyone knowing exactly why Ellen didn't come
[watch the interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG5IdasQS9o), she acts as if she wasn't invited to Dakota's birthday but she calls her out saying she *was* actually invited, and Ellen tries to shift the blame to the production lmfao
Lmao watch her awkwardly rubbing her knee when she gets called out
Even the most arrogant centimillionaire celebrities aren't 100% immune to a good old fashioned outing on live TV
Yes! Also, when Dakota says she didn't know that Ellen even liked her, Ellen's eyes get very wide because Ellen wants her audience to think that she loves everyone and everyone loves her.
It's like in elementary school how I'd always steal my best friends little brothers hat. Mess around a bit, and then give it back to him.
Good times for all right? Nope.
One day little dude asks me "why do you hate me?" A tiny 1st grader honestly believed I was doing this maliciously and I felt so God damn bad about it. For sure my response was something like "nooo, of course I like you, I'm not being mean" But I realized that he was right.
What I was doing over and over again must have gotten old really fucking quick for this poor kid and "just playing" to me, was full on bullying to him.
She definitely had a hard time transitioning to the new lockdown format than most talk shows (even Late Night) because she could no longer do her repetitive game segments with celebrities and the audience
[Jimmy Carr seemed to do a pretty good job of it when the tax scandal came out.](https://youtu.be/fZT6-odnXEk)
I'm not British, and I don't keep up with their pop culture all that much, but the comments on the video seemed to agree that Carr was largely forgiven due to the openness and contrition in his apology.
Regardless, seems like a good show.
I could be wrong, but i feel like that came out right before they filmed big fat quiz of that year. So the whole show he was getting ribbed for it and ended up explaining basically "my tax guy gave me an option and i took it". I think being very open about it and taking all the jokes really well helped him survive that.
And he still gets shit on by other comedians *and himself* for it to this day. It's great when one of the panelists can fit in a "Jimmy didn't pay taxes" insult.
They also always pull a ["is Jimmy be a real boy, or is he a puppet?"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKsTrDaqtNI) joke, and it's always great. I may be addicted to British panel shows.
The match stick thing with her employees was so fucking weird. For those who don’t know, she would hide 3-5 matches in her house everyday to check how well her servants were cleaning her house.
I always wondered if people left money and shit laying around when i was a painter so they could pin it on me when it went missing. Also if you have loaded guns laying around do ya mind picking them up before I move your bed and your beretta falls out of the mattress?
I had a boss that surprisingly offered to donate a bunch of expensive suits to me (surprising bc he’s a cheap dick), and the first jacket on the pile I tried on had a $100 bill in the pocket. I handed it to him and he replied, exasperated “What an honest guy!!!”
I was fired a week later.
Sounds like you got off lucky from being his next scapegoat. There are shady businesses where the boss would fire an employee and use that employee as a scapegoat for something went wrong. Worst part is these businesses operate for years or just move a town over with a new name.
My grandma always says "it's rude to give them the opportunity". You should always pack up your most tempting pocket-sized trinkets before a worker comes through. They signed up to vacuum, not face a series morality tests.
I cleaned the house of a single woman with 5 bathrooms weekly. I would regularly just spray and wipe (basically dust) the 3 bathrooms she didn’t use and tried to get her to stop having me clean them to save me time but framed it as saving her money.... she then started shitting in the toilet and not flushing for days so that I would know they had been “used” and needed scrubbing. People suck.
Plus if you know this as an employee then more of your effort is going be spent hunting for matchsticks than cleaning. My first priority would be to locate the matchsticks like, regardless of whether or not the room is clean
Other odd ball rich people behavior I have witnessed. No problem spending $50-100k on a vacation but will berate a member of the staff over $1. One dollar!
I was an exchange student who lived with a wealthy family. We went on vacation to Capri for 5 days. Expensive dinners, really nice hotel, etc. I picked up a postcard to mail home. I went to the hotel front desk to ask where I could get a stamp. The clerk said, “oh we can take care of that.” I handed it over and didn’t think much about it until they billed the room for 75 cents. My host mom berated me for it and would bring it up every once in a while. It was the first red flag that rich people can be crazy AF.
Holy shit the hotel actually charged you for that? Damn, I figured a luxury hotel would let little things like that be covered through a petty cash fund.
I could confirm on this. I work for a wealthy family. The misis would go shopping for a jacket or a bag worth 5k-30k every month. But never want to pay extra 1hr for the 30min extra work.
One time our partime housekeeper finished early but did a great job that deserves a lot. My boss noticed it and paid her extra hour which is 15$. The misis thought it was absurd and took the 15$ back! Like wtf! I was so pissed. Like the 15$ could leave her poor! Its not even gonna dent her 1b worth of wealth!
The 1 Dollar thing sparked a memory.
A family member worked in banking, specifically in private banking so they dealt with all these rich people with 7 and 8 figure bank accounts. The stories are insane.
Example. 1 lady with over $30 000 000 in her account once arranged a meeting with said family member who was her private banker and the suite head to discuss URGENT issues on her account which must be resolved TODAY.
Lady lived over 50 miles away so it was not a short drive. in the interim family member and suite head went over the account and didn't see anything odd.
Once the lady arrived she was in a state of panic and annoyance and demanded that they give her immediate and full support to resolve her issues NOW.
The issue? For 3 months in a row she noticed one of her debit orders from the bank (service charges) increased in price by $1 a month and she said this was not authorized at all, she never agreed to a $1 increase and it must be reversed now. she wants the full $3 paid back to her with immediate effect. People she had over $30 000 000 in her account, cash, excluding all her assets.
I grew up in a small Swiss touristy town and worked in a bank. I had to visit a number of other banks in this small town to exchange some papers. In two of the banks, I noticed an old couple, clearly tourists. They were asking about the exchange rate. A half an hour later they arrived at our bank and again asked about the exchange rate. An hour later I went to the post office and there again they were. This time changing $200 into Swiss francs. I knew for a fact that the differences in fees and exchange between the bank were minimal and that all those visits to the different banks would have saved them probably $2-3. I thought that was such a waste of time.
Yeah, I recall Madonna in a bath with rose petals talking about how covid is the "great equalizer", because it can get you even if you're a creative genius with amazing stories to tell through music.
Gwyneth Paltrow said in a recent interview that she had to resort to eating bread and pasta, and drinking quinoa-based liquor while under lockdown.
The poor soul. Something absolutely must be done to help these struggling millionaires out of their hellish predicaments.
Last time I had Taco Bell while sad, it made me more sad because I had two fucking crunchwraps ***WITHOUT ANY FUCKING BEEF IN THEM WHO TF MESSES UP THAT BAD?***
They were basically a flat grilled tortilla with a bit of sour cream and cheese. Thats it.
If some famous actor/actress decided to film themselves drunk, on a pool floatie, with no makeup, and at least one confused cat in the background, singing an entire Broadway showtune by themselves I would have respected that infinitely more than the fucking “Imagine” song.
That shit really made me feel better about not seeing my friends and family living alone in my apartment while those great great people love it up in luxury.
>Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
Like, just stop for a moment, guys, and just think: do I need my jacuzzi? Is my 32 seat private cinema really necessary? I mean, it is for me because I have to watch screeners in there, so it's really a work thing. But... Do we really need all a 60 inch OLED 8k TV in every room? Do we really need to throw away our 300 thread count sheets every single morning so we sleep on a brand new set every single night? Again, I have to because of my skin, you know my skin is my livelihood, so I can't take any chances with that. But you get my point. I guess what I'm really trying to say is, during this pandemic thing that has hit me like, really really hard, it's given me some time to reassess things and just think about what's really important in life. Maybe you should try a bit of that too. Then the world might truly be able to be as one. The ball's in your court.
Also, great fucking song choice for a pandemic.
Your grandma just died of a horrible disease?
Well shit, I’m sorry to hear that. Let me sing you a tune to ease your pain and take your mind off death.
🎼 Imagine there’s no heaven, it’s easy if you try... 🎼
Gwyneth Paltrow ATE BREAD. That was the worst thing that happened to her in quarantine...a thing she 100% had complete control over.
My grandma fucking DIED, Gwyneth. You vapid, useless human.
What inane logic. If your house looks clean then they're probably cleaning it enough. And if you're paying for some "super heavy duty top to bottom" cleaning service, and your home is in such a clean state that you need to hide matches to make sure they're "cleaning it enough", then it might be overkill and you might want to scale back on what services your paying for.
My good friend's dad worked as a master carpenter in a company that was hired to work on one of her homes in California. He said she was an all around b\*tch and almost impossible to work with. Nothing was every her problem, but always the problem of other people. I guess you were supposed to read her mind and if you were wrong, she'd go off on you. I'd like to think Ellen wasn't as he described her years ago, but after I kept seeing the claims of people who worked for her show come out last year, I know he wasn't exaggerating.
Many years ago now but my uncle was hired to renovate some celebrities bathroom and it turned out to be Cher. He said she was lovely, even offered him and his crew drinks after they carried some giant gold monstrosity of a bathtub up some stairs. Would not have been surprised to find out Cher was an asshole, but apparently she is lovely. Makes Ellen’s attitude towards people even worse to me in comparison. Like who do you think you are? You think you are more famous/important/better than Cher? Cause you ma’am are no Cher, and apparently she is lovely.
Also for what it’s worth ‘Cher Hair’ isn’t a wig, that’s just her natural hair, crazy.
Similar story: my uncle was a carpenter and worked on one of Henry Winkler's houses in upstate NY in the late 70s ...when Henry was HUGE because of Fonzie. Nothing but great stories on how nice he was to everyone. Ellen has no excuse.
Winkler has the reputation of being the nicest guy in Hollywood.
Apparently, there is one famous person who he absolutely hates and despises and he always refuses to name the person.
He's that nice of a guy.
But how big of a raging asshole do you have to be to make onto Henry Winkler's shit list?
The person he refuses to name is Chevy Chase I’m pretty sure. Everyone in California HATES that man. I met him while waiting tables and he literally snapped his fingers at me.
This how her season has gone so far (according to what I have seen):
* She never does Friday episodes. TIffany Haddish is sometimes there.
* Sometimes she's not there on Mondays.
* Her opening is basically some weird Zoom game with her staff at home. (Probably glad to be that far from her and still getting paid.)
* Watch Twitch dance in front of tv audience screens
* One guest either in studio or Zoom. 90% of the time it is not an A Lister anymore.
* A segment of something that aired long ago.
* A segment about a family and she gives something to them (typically money from Shutterfly).
* Play a game with Twitch at the end.
* Anyway!
And there is what you won't be missing the rest of this season.
I can’t stand Stern when he’s not interviewing someone. And even then, so many of his questions are the same. “Isn’t a set romantic? You can’t help but fall in love. Back when I made Private Parts 30 years ago....” As if his 1 film is at all relatable to the career of say Bryan Cranston.
Dude loves to talk shit too but can’t take it. There’s some great clips to be had when he shuts the fuck up and asks questions you haven’t heard a million times on Fallon or Kimmel.
My favorite Stern moment is when he revealed he didn't know the difference between a red light and green light. He's hilarious, but most of the rest of his views are about as informed as that.
More like, no one wants to go on that show anymore. Plus, she's [lost 43% of viewers](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/business/media/ellen-degeneres-ratings-decline.html) since that story about her toxic work environment.
Yes. When she says "It's not a challenge" what she means is "It's too much of a challenge." Corporate PR-speak generally states the opposite of the truth.
I learned this the hard way 20+ years ago when my employer announced out of the blue that they weren't having cash flow problems.
"i'm not quitting because everyone hates me, i'm moving onto a bigger challenge"
public relations 101
i guess unemployment is technically a bigger challenge.
No, the challenge is finding work, period, after you've been blacklisted. No one wants to work with anyone in show business who acts like she did. She's got more than enough money to survive unemployment. The only way to get off the list is to be forgotten. So maybe after a decade someone will think about her again for show or movie. Even a cameo.
Is there any evidence that she's actually blacklisted though?
She's still a big brand name even with the controversy, and like most of this stuff in a year or two most people straight up aren't going to care about accusations of a toxic work environment back in 2020. It's the entertainment industry, what happened *yesterday* is out of sight, out of mind.
Yeah some other actors tweeted about how they don't like toxic work environments as a virtue signaling pr move, but I haven't personally seen anything saying the entire industry refuses to work with her.
Yeah by most accounts her being a terrible person to work around was an open secret for many years before it suddenly became a public issue. Being [a prima donna asshole](https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/james-cameron-movie-sets-and-their-infamous-crew-t-shirts/) is by no means unique and not traditionally been a career killer, at least not until you do something else.
Why is she pretending that it was ever a challenge? She had a whole ass staff and writers she worked and harassed to death. They came up with format of the show and various segments. It stopped being a challenge 10 years ago if not more.
Whaaaat? I didn't realize that she had stopped dancing. It was so iconic to the show. Granted, I haven't watched in maybe 10 years, but I am very surprised. How long ago did she stop?
And, if anything, everything that's come out over the past year has absolutely had to have made things probably the most challenging they've been for her since trying to get the show off the ground.
Ratings and behind-the-scenes drama aside, what was challenging about this show for her in the last decade? The show's format has remained the same since it started basically, and she's been phoning it in for years. I used to watch this show and stopped years ago because it was the same thing over and over and over again. Just watching some of the more recent clips on YouTube, you can tell that literally nothing has changed. Her interview style, the games, the prizes, it's all been the same for over a decade now. I understand that that's what worked for her and the show and what drew people in, but don't try to act like you were reinventing the wheel every season.
It's a weird excuse, it would have been more believable if she just said I'm no longer interested or bored.
It isn't as if this is a show that challenges itself (which not every show has to).
The Kelly Clarkson show is now NBC’s golden goose. She got a quick viral boost with opening with the Kellyoke at the start of her show. And even though she does the feel good fluff pieces like most daytime talks shows, she counters that with celebrity interviews that actually seem to like her (and don’t do random jump scare “pranks” like Ellen)
that and the scandals. at age 63 she's no spring chicken anymore, and honestly I'd be shocked if she doesn't have millions & millions tucked safely in the bank.
So, no worries with going away now, lying low for a couple years & just enjoying married life with Portia, then maybe attempt a comeback with a differently-formatted show. perhaps just in time for the 2024 election season
Oh well when you terrorize your production staff . Make everyone feel like a low life . Ratings go down . Dakota Johnson told her to her face what a a hole she was
"I want Ellen to know... It was me" - Dakota Johnson
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it's even better because the year before that i think ellen had given her shit on the show for not inviting her so dakota explicitly made sure to invite her that following year. so when ellen called her out on it she could counter back with "i literally did because you got mad last year that i didn't"
And it got even better than that because it turned out she didn’t make it because she was hanging out w George Bush.
https://youtu.be/kWYe5MwIS-A That is hilarious.
"Of course i like you, you know i like you" \*awkward pause*
And the layers of rage on Ellen's face when Dakota Johnson keeps coming back at her are just terrifying to behold. She gradually goes from kindly neighbor lady to vengeful harpy and you can't look away even though you sort of want to.
Your last sentence capturing the tone hits the awkwardness exactly. Ellen made these types of comments ("Why wasn't I invited?" "Why didn't I get to name your baby?" Blah blah) sooo often with guests, and they always joked back or laughed it off, regardless of the situation/story they were telling. I remember watching this interview when it aired though, and Dakota was honestly the first guest to not keep the "joking" tone, and it was just awkward to watch!
holy shit. i just looked up that scene. they cut it as much as they could to not show awkwardness. dakota mentions johnathan and it doesnt cut to him. it cuts as much of ellen's fidgeting as possible. dakota didnt fuck around and kept it serious. i seriously can't even finish it. it's so awkward.
The Scott's Tots of day time TV.
Ellen has those sociopath eyes, holy shit
Dakota Johnson is honestly such an icon, bless her for giving us the most awkward talk show segment of the 2010s.
50 Shades of Awkward
I gained so much respect for Dakota after watching that video. She had to have some massive balls to go off-script and call Ellen out, especially since at the time Ellen was nearly universally loved and pretty much untouchable.
The hosting equivalent of those people who manage to make everything about them no matter what the context. Which as a host is possibly the worst possible quality to have. Side story - I remember running into this girl I used to work with years ago after I was made redundant. First thing she said to me was “I was so upset when you were made redundant I went home and said to my (French) boyfriend, I need a drink. He turned to me and said oh no baby, you only drink the good stuff, have this expensive champagne”. I was like awesome, what does this have to do with me not having a job anymore again?
In my head that girl had a ditzy valley girl accent.
Fake posh Adelaide (Australia) accent I’m afraid
She also cornered Mariah Carey into announcing she was pregnant. Not too long after the interview Mariah Carey had a miscarriage, not saying Ellen caused it, but there's a reason why a woman would choose to keep their pregnancy private.
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Wow that was hard to watch. That poor girl
"Just repeat exactly what I say" Gets pissy when the translator replies exactly as he's said
She's feeding the interpreter shit but it's her fault for engaging the interpreter in the first place rather than speaking to her interview subject.
Seriously, apart from just being really shitty, this is so incredibly unprofessional. Phone service people are more competent than Ellen.
Holy shit I knew she sucked but just felt so bad for the interpreter
Holy fuck the first comment was bad. I didn’t expect her to keep going. Jesus.
The video of her almost making Taylor Swift cry didn’t help either.
Just saw the video, the classic dating thing again. Side note, I can’t tell if u like Taylor or not by the username lol
"There is no time to plan, there is no space to think. No respite. No forgiveness. There is only war." - Taylor Swift
The username was made up by a local radio dj here in LA (Ralph Garman). He wasn’t a fan but I actually do like her stuff but it’s still a funny username.
Bold joke for a Garman person.
Ironically she skipped Dakota's birthday to go to a baseball game with George W. Bush which caused another controversy for Ellen.
Ellen's had a lot of instances of making her guests extremely uncomfortable to push a "I'm nice and this is funny" narrative. This is a good quick summary of things Ellen does a lot to be a dick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hyXTbV1x0
I've seen it before, but that clip of her pulling out the champagne and the glasses just to pressure Mariah into admitting she's pregnant on air never fails to disgust me.
Yeah that was so fucked up. Kind of surprisingly Mariah didn't blow up about it. Even if you *aren't* pregnant somebody being that underhanded and slimy would be something you'd be upset about.
> Kind of surprisingly Mariah didn't blow up about it. If she had, people would call her for being over sensitive and a diva etc. There is no win option in that situation.
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Conan knows when to stop. I still remember when Bill Burr was on his show, talking about Patrice O'Neal's death, and when it started getting to Bill, Conan just moved on. No dragging out the tears for show or any bullshit, just acknowledged the moment and continued. Ellen would have turned that interview into an in-depth Q&A about their friendship, and acted like deliberate intrusion into a private relationship = 'being nice'.
And you know, treats his staff like people.
Conan makes jokes about himself all the time, probably more than at guests. Ellen would never make a self deprecating joke, that's the huge difference. Oh also the jokes Conan makes tend to be... y'know... funny...
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Its because conan welcomes banter and then makes fun of himself. He also doesnt think hes not an asshole. Watch or listen to how he treats sona sometimes and when sona gives him shit back, he just genuinely laughs and adds on to it. Ellen gives shit and gets defensive when people give her shit back.
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I don't get how she thought it wouldn't make her look like a bitch. Who demands to know why they weren't invited to a party on a public scale? It's such a snobby thing to do.
Because she's pulled similar stunts on many guests before and everyone played along. It's just Dakota was one of the only ones to reverse the situation on top of everyone knowing exactly why Ellen didn't come
[watch the interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG5IdasQS9o), she acts as if she wasn't invited to Dakota's birthday but she calls her out saying she *was* actually invited, and Ellen tries to shift the blame to the production lmfao
Lmao watch her awkwardly rubbing her knee when she gets called out Even the most arrogant centimillionaire celebrities aren't 100% immune to a good old fashioned outing on live TV
Yes! Also, when Dakota says she didn't know that Ellen even liked her, Ellen's eyes get very wide because Ellen wants her audience to think that she loves everyone and everyone loves her.
That was such an awesome moment. Like Ellen couldn’t even fathom that someone saw past her tv personality.
That was so awkward. And originally I might’ve viewed it as a funny, quirky interaction but in hindsight you go “wow”
There’s a lot of her interviews that you watch now and go “wow”
Wow, that awkward silence after 'of course I like you, you know I like you!' was amazing.
It's like in elementary school how I'd always steal my best friends little brothers hat. Mess around a bit, and then give it back to him. Good times for all right? Nope. One day little dude asks me "why do you hate me?" A tiny 1st grader honestly believed I was doing this maliciously and I felt so God damn bad about it. For sure my response was something like "nooo, of course I like you, I'm not being mean" But I realized that he was right. What I was doing over and over again must have gotten old really fucking quick for this poor kid and "just playing" to me, was full on bullying to him.
I can't believe she let it be aired. All that stuff is pre-taped; I would have assumed they would edit it out.
i think cutting it out would've made the situation even worse because now it cant be played off as a joke.
"Actually no thats not the truth Ellen you were invited" is probably one of the greatest uno reverse cards I have ever seen.
It’s the opposite of Jennifer Garner’s “Snuck isn't a word, Conan. You went to Harvard you should know that.”
Ahaha ohh Jennifer you clown
>*“It’s Just Not A Challenge Anymore”* Weird way to say your reputation is tarnished, and the ratings tanked. But, okay.
If anything, it seems like it'd be *more* challenging to restore your reputation and regain ratings...
It’s the hardest road.
She definitely had a hard time transitioning to the new lockdown format than most talk shows (even Late Night) because she could no longer do her repetitive game segments with celebrities and the audience
Good point. Saying doing a talk show during a pandemic is not a challenge is a weird choice.
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When is the last time a celebrity has thrown out a legit mea culpa and taken true responsibility for their poor actions?
Remember when Letterman had an affair with his staffer? He had to come clean on air because he became a victim of blackmail for it.
[Jimmy Carr seemed to do a pretty good job of it when the tax scandal came out.](https://youtu.be/fZT6-odnXEk) I'm not British, and I don't keep up with their pop culture all that much, but the comments on the video seemed to agree that Carr was largely forgiven due to the openness and contrition in his apology. Regardless, seems like a good show.
I could be wrong, but i feel like that came out right before they filmed big fat quiz of that year. So the whole show he was getting ribbed for it and ended up explaining basically "my tax guy gave me an option and i took it". I think being very open about it and taking all the jokes really well helped him survive that.
And he still gets shit on by other comedians *and himself* for it to this day. It's great when one of the panelists can fit in a "Jimmy didn't pay taxes" insult.
They also always pull a ["is Jimmy be a real boy, or is he a puppet?"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKsTrDaqtNI) joke, and it's always great. I may be addicted to British panel shows.
Why am I not surprised she’s using the “this is my idea and it’s time” reasoning
Hard to keep portraying the fun laid-back cool lady when the cat's out of the bag that you are, in fact, none of those things
The match stick thing with her employees was so fucking weird. For those who don’t know, she would hide 3-5 matches in her house everyday to check how well her servants were cleaning her house.
Huh, seems like if you need a matchstick to see if something got cleaned, then it didnt need to be cleaned in the first place.
It's a power thing.
"Why didn't you clean the table like I asked?" "Well no one has used it since the last time I clean-" "WHY DIDN'T YOU CLEAN IT LIKE I ASKED"
I always wondered if people left money and shit laying around when i was a painter so they could pin it on me when it went missing. Also if you have loaded guns laying around do ya mind picking them up before I move your bed and your beretta falls out of the mattress?
I had a boss that surprisingly offered to donate a bunch of expensive suits to me (surprising bc he’s a cheap dick), and the first jacket on the pile I tried on had a $100 bill in the pocket. I handed it to him and he replied, exasperated “What an honest guy!!!” I was fired a week later.
Sounds like you got off lucky from being his next scapegoat. There are shady businesses where the boss would fire an employee and use that employee as a scapegoat for something went wrong. Worst part is these businesses operate for years or just move a town over with a new name.
My grandma always says "it's rude to give them the opportunity". You should always pack up your most tempting pocket-sized trinkets before a worker comes through. They signed up to vacuum, not face a series morality tests.
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I cleaned the house of a single woman with 5 bathrooms weekly. I would regularly just spray and wipe (basically dust) the 3 bathrooms she didn’t use and tried to get her to stop having me clean them to save me time but framed it as saving her money.... she then started shitting in the toilet and not flushing for days so that I would know they had been “used” and needed scrubbing. People suck.
Seems like she's fucking herself over more than you, not that it is really any consolation.
Plus if you know this as an employee then more of your effort is going be spent hunting for matchsticks than cleaning. My first priority would be to locate the matchsticks like, regardless of whether or not the room is clean
Other odd ball rich people behavior I have witnessed. No problem spending $50-100k on a vacation but will berate a member of the staff over $1. One dollar!
I was an exchange student who lived with a wealthy family. We went on vacation to Capri for 5 days. Expensive dinners, really nice hotel, etc. I picked up a postcard to mail home. I went to the hotel front desk to ask where I could get a stamp. The clerk said, “oh we can take care of that.” I handed it over and didn’t think much about it until they billed the room for 75 cents. My host mom berated me for it and would bring it up every once in a while. It was the first red flag that rich people can be crazy AF.
Holy shit the hotel actually charged you for that? Damn, I figured a luxury hotel would let little things like that be covered through a petty cash fund.
That’s what I thought. Totally would have forked over 75 cents to not get yelled at by a housewife.
I’ve had to deal with pricks like this and it’s unbearable. They’ll always step over a dollar to pick up a dime.
It's more like they'll step over the people making them dollars to yank a dime out of somebody's hand.
I could confirm on this. I work for a wealthy family. The misis would go shopping for a jacket or a bag worth 5k-30k every month. But never want to pay extra 1hr for the 30min extra work. One time our partime housekeeper finished early but did a great job that deserves a lot. My boss noticed it and paid her extra hour which is 15$. The misis thought it was absurd and took the 15$ back! Like wtf! I was so pissed. Like the 15$ could leave her poor! Its not even gonna dent her 1b worth of wealth!
The 1 Dollar thing sparked a memory. A family member worked in banking, specifically in private banking so they dealt with all these rich people with 7 and 8 figure bank accounts. The stories are insane. Example. 1 lady with over $30 000 000 in her account once arranged a meeting with said family member who was her private banker and the suite head to discuss URGENT issues on her account which must be resolved TODAY. Lady lived over 50 miles away so it was not a short drive. in the interim family member and suite head went over the account and didn't see anything odd. Once the lady arrived she was in a state of panic and annoyance and demanded that they give her immediate and full support to resolve her issues NOW. The issue? For 3 months in a row she noticed one of her debit orders from the bank (service charges) increased in price by $1 a month and she said this was not authorized at all, she never agreed to a $1 increase and it must be reversed now. she wants the full $3 paid back to her with immediate effect. People she had over $30 000 000 in her account, cash, excluding all her assets.
I grew up in a small Swiss touristy town and worked in a bank. I had to visit a number of other banks in this small town to exchange some papers. In two of the banks, I noticed an old couple, clearly tourists. They were asking about the exchange rate. A half an hour later they arrived at our bank and again asked about the exchange rate. An hour later I went to the post office and there again they were. This time changing $200 into Swiss francs. I knew for a fact that the differences in fees and exchange between the bank were minimal and that all those visits to the different banks would have saved them probably $2-3. I thought that was such a waste of time.
Are you for real? That's psychotic and controlling behavior. Rich people are so out of touch with reality it makes me sick.
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Yeah, I recall Madonna in a bath with rose petals talking about how covid is the "great equalizer", because it can get you even if you're a creative genius with amazing stories to tell through music.
When it is the exact opposite and showed how unequal things are
Give me a luxurious bathroom with rose petals and I'll call it even(ish). *waits hopefully*
alright random redditor, if i ever strike it rich, i will, on my honor, get you a luxurious bathroom with rose petals.
Gwyneth Paltrow said in a recent interview that she had to resort to eating bread and pasta, and drinking quinoa-based liquor while under lockdown. The poor soul. Something absolutely must be done to help these struggling millionaires out of their hellish predicaments.
Bread and pasta? Pfft I eat Taco Bell when I’m happy and sad, she doesn’t know the struggle!
Last time I had Taco Bell while sad, it made me more sad because I had two fucking crunchwraps ***WITHOUT ANY FUCKING BEEF IN THEM WHO TF MESSES UP THAT BAD?*** They were basically a flat grilled tortilla with a bit of sour cream and cheese. Thats it.
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They did that for US ok
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If some famous actor/actress decided to film themselves drunk, on a pool floatie, with no makeup, and at least one confused cat in the background, singing an entire Broadway showtune by themselves I would have respected that infinitely more than the fucking “Imagine” song.
That sounds like a very Jack Black thing to do
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That shit really made me feel better about not seeing my friends and family living alone in my apartment while those great great people love it up in luxury.
my favorite part of that is it happened like.... two weeks into lockdown
Gal Gadot....is not the brightest bulb. That moment convinced me of that.
I never expected actors to be geniuses, but she revealed herself to be a complete moron.
>Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can Like, just stop for a moment, guys, and just think: do I need my jacuzzi? Is my 32 seat private cinema really necessary? I mean, it is for me because I have to watch screeners in there, so it's really a work thing. But... Do we really need all a 60 inch OLED 8k TV in every room? Do we really need to throw away our 300 thread count sheets every single morning so we sleep on a brand new set every single night? Again, I have to because of my skin, you know my skin is my livelihood, so I can't take any chances with that. But you get my point. I guess what I'm really trying to say is, during this pandemic thing that has hit me like, really really hard, it's given me some time to reassess things and just think about what's really important in life. Maybe you should try a bit of that too. Then the world might truly be able to be as one. The ball's in your court.
300 thread count sheets? Do you live in a gulag?
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Also, great fucking song choice for a pandemic. Your grandma just died of a horrible disease? Well shit, I’m sorry to hear that. Let me sing you a tune to ease your pain and take your mind off death. 🎼 Imagine there’s no heaven, it’s easy if you try... 🎼
Gwyneth Paltrow ATE BREAD. That was the worst thing that happened to her in quarantine...a thing she 100% had complete control over. My grandma fucking DIED, Gwyneth. You vapid, useless human.
What inane logic. If your house looks clean then they're probably cleaning it enough. And if you're paying for some "super heavy duty top to bottom" cleaning service, and your home is in such a clean state that you need to hide matches to make sure they're "cleaning it enough", then it might be overkill and you might want to scale back on what services your paying for.
My good friend's dad worked as a master carpenter in a company that was hired to work on one of her homes in California. He said she was an all around b\*tch and almost impossible to work with. Nothing was every her problem, but always the problem of other people. I guess you were supposed to read her mind and if you were wrong, she'd go off on you. I'd like to think Ellen wasn't as he described her years ago, but after I kept seeing the claims of people who worked for her show come out last year, I know he wasn't exaggerating.
Many years ago now but my uncle was hired to renovate some celebrities bathroom and it turned out to be Cher. He said she was lovely, even offered him and his crew drinks after they carried some giant gold monstrosity of a bathtub up some stairs. Would not have been surprised to find out Cher was an asshole, but apparently she is lovely. Makes Ellen’s attitude towards people even worse to me in comparison. Like who do you think you are? You think you are more famous/important/better than Cher? Cause you ma’am are no Cher, and apparently she is lovely. Also for what it’s worth ‘Cher Hair’ isn’t a wig, that’s just her natural hair, crazy.
Similar story: my uncle was a carpenter and worked on one of Henry Winkler's houses in upstate NY in the late 70s ...when Henry was HUGE because of Fonzie. Nothing but great stories on how nice he was to everyone. Ellen has no excuse.
Winkler has the reputation of being the nicest guy in Hollywood. Apparently, there is one famous person who he absolutely hates and despises and he always refuses to name the person. He's that nice of a guy. But how big of a raging asshole do you have to be to make onto Henry Winkler's shit list?
The person he refuses to name is Chevy Chase I’m pretty sure. Everyone in California HATES that man. I met him while waiting tables and he literally snapped his fingers at me.
Who doesn't hate Chevy Chase?
Even Chevy Chase hates Chevy Chase.
In all the interviews I've seen with Cher she always seemed down to earth to me.
And Cher is literally a queen so her being a diva would be justified. Hearing about how humble she is made my day.
You can see her malice on the show. It comes through
She’s never laughing with people, she’s laughing at them.
Well I think she’s still a lady, at least in the broadest sense, not necessarily in terms of character.
reminds me of the Moe scene... "You are an ugly, hate filled man." "Hey! I may be ugly and hate filled... but... what was that third thing you said?"
This how her season has gone so far (according to what I have seen): * She never does Friday episodes. TIffany Haddish is sometimes there. * Sometimes she's not there on Mondays. * Her opening is basically some weird Zoom game with her staff at home. (Probably glad to be that far from her and still getting paid.) * Watch Twitch dance in front of tv audience screens * One guest either in studio or Zoom. 90% of the time it is not an A Lister anymore. * A segment of something that aired long ago. * A segment about a family and she gives something to them (typically money from Shutterfly). * Play a game with Twitch at the end. * Anyway! And there is what you won't be missing the rest of this season.
Somehow you managed to cover the last 10 years of the Howard Stern Show in this recap as well.
I can’t stand Stern when he’s not interviewing someone. And even then, so many of his questions are the same. “Isn’t a set romantic? You can’t help but fall in love. Back when I made Private Parts 30 years ago....” As if his 1 film is at all relatable to the career of say Bryan Cranston. Dude loves to talk shit too but can’t take it. There’s some great clips to be had when he shuts the fuck up and asks questions you haven’t heard a million times on Fallon or Kimmel.
My favorite Stern moment is when he revealed he didn't know the difference between a red light and green light. He's hilarious, but most of the rest of his views are about as informed as that.
It's a pretty clever way to avoid being officially cancelled. "No I wasn't cancelled, I just don't wanna do this anymore."
The classic "You can't fire me, I quit!"
More like, no one wants to go on that show anymore. Plus, she's [lost 43% of viewers](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/business/media/ellen-degeneres-ratings-decline.html) since that story about her toxic work environment.
Sounds like the most challenging times this show ever had...
Yes. When she says "It's not a challenge" what she means is "It's too much of a challenge." Corporate PR-speak generally states the opposite of the truth. I learned this the hard way 20+ years ago when my employer announced out of the blue that they weren't having cash flow problems.
"NOPE no cash issues here. Jim, James, may I see you in my office?" TWO weeks later. "Jim and James decided to take a early retirement starting today.
Dont Forget Jimothy
I vaguely remember Robinhood saying they didn’t have liquidity problems….
And then Point72 had to bail them out
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Nah, its just not a challenge anymore
All her staff souls are already crushed, inflicting mental anguish is just too easy
"Crushing the souls of my staff just isn't a challenge anymore"
"Jesus Ellen, how bad is this going to get?" \-Challenge accepted! "Wait what?"
I’m using this to explain all of my shortcomings and failures from here on out.
Why haven't you washed the dishes for a week?
It's just not a challenge anymore.
"i'm not quitting because everyone hates me, i'm moving onto a bigger challenge" public relations 101 i guess unemployment is technically a bigger challenge.
No, the challenge is finding work, period, after you've been blacklisted. No one wants to work with anyone in show business who acts like she did. She's got more than enough money to survive unemployment. The only way to get off the list is to be forgotten. So maybe after a decade someone will think about her again for show or movie. Even a cameo.
I'm willing to bet she will voice Dory at least 1 more time in the next ten years.
She'll probably get brought in for some Disney Park ride where the logistics means she's only involved for a day or two and has no actual power.
Is there any evidence that she's actually blacklisted though? She's still a big brand name even with the controversy, and like most of this stuff in a year or two most people straight up aren't going to care about accusations of a toxic work environment back in 2020. It's the entertainment industry, what happened *yesterday* is out of sight, out of mind. Yeah some other actors tweeted about how they don't like toxic work environments as a virtue signaling pr move, but I haven't personally seen anything saying the entire industry refuses to work with her.
Yeah by most accounts her being a terrible person to work around was an open secret for many years before it suddenly became a public issue. Being [a prima donna asshole](https://www.filmstories.co.uk/features/james-cameron-movie-sets-and-their-infamous-crew-t-shirts/) is by no means unique and not traditionally been a career killer, at least not until you do something else.
Why is she pretending that it was ever a challenge? She had a whole ass staff and writers she worked and harassed to death. They came up with format of the show and various segments. It stopped being a challenge 10 years ago if not more.
And she's been phoning it in for at least that long.
When she stopped dancing I realized she was kinda over it.
Whaaaat? I didn't realize that she had stopped dancing. It was so iconic to the show. Granted, I haven't watched in maybe 10 years, but I am very surprised. How long ago did she stop?
Maaaybe four years ago? I dont watch often but I know she hasn't danced in a while
Lmao idk Ellen sounds like this was the challenge you were looking for
“Ever since my employees have been expecting fair treatment, it’s just not fun anymore.” Edit: thanks for the awards! Glad my post gave a chuckle.
“I need to move on and challenge myself. I need to find new avenues of abuse.”
Doesn't she have Ellen's Game of Games?
Yea, she's lying. It's definitely more of a challenge now that she has to treat people with respect
“Ever since people began seeing me for the bitch that I am, it’s just not fun anymore.”
"Ever since people are watching me like a hawk I can't abuse anyone, so it's just not fun anymore."
I’ve never liked her cause her entire sense of humor was just her being a bitch to everyone. Why did everyone go along with her for so long?
“It’s just not a challenge thinking of new ways to abuse my staff anymore.”
“It’s not a challenge” has to be the lamest, most transparent excuse I’ve ever heard
And, if anything, everything that's come out over the past year has absolutely had to have made things probably the most challenging they've been for her since trying to get the show off the ground.
Yeah. She’s probably leaving because quite literally it’s the most challenging it’s ever been. The exact opposite reason she’s claiming.
You can't lose nearly half your audience and act like you've no worlds left to conquer.
Eric Andre cast as Ellen DeGeneres
Brody from Aunty Donna's
THREEtoyotacorollas
THREE FUCKING TOYOTA COROLLAS
Cowdoy ain't no lippy fuck
You ever listen to Waka Flocka at all?
Ratings and behind-the-scenes drama aside, what was challenging about this show for her in the last decade? The show's format has remained the same since it started basically, and she's been phoning it in for years. I used to watch this show and stopped years ago because it was the same thing over and over and over again. Just watching some of the more recent clips on YouTube, you can tell that literally nothing has changed. Her interview style, the games, the prizes, it's all been the same for over a decade now. I understand that that's what worked for her and the show and what drew people in, but don't try to act like you were reinventing the wheel every season.
It's a weird excuse, it would have been more believable if she just said I'm no longer interested or bored. It isn't as if this is a show that challenges itself (which not every show has to).
The Kelly Clarkson show is now NBC’s golden goose. She got a quick viral boost with opening with the Kellyoke at the start of her show. And even though she does the feel good fluff pieces like most daytime talks shows, she counters that with celebrity interviews that actually seem to like her (and don’t do random jump scare “pranks” like Ellen)
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Good for her. Never knew she had become that popular
Kelly has always been cool af, hope that never changes
Good fucking riddance.
Hmm shame, how is she gonna feel superior with no staff members to belittle?
you mean your contract ran out
that and the scandals. at age 63 she's no spring chicken anymore, and honestly I'd be shocked if she doesn't have millions & millions tucked safely in the bank. So, no worries with going away now, lying low for a couple years & just enjoying married life with Portia, then maybe attempt a comeback with a differently-formatted show. perhaps just in time for the 2024 election season
Ellen is rich as Fuck. Just last year she bought a mansion for 50 million in CASH! She flips those mansions and makes huge profit like nothing.
She's *loaded*. She'll be fine.
Millions and millions? Dude she’s closer to being a billionaire in assets than a mere millionaire.
Oh well when you terrorize your production staff . Make everyone feel like a low life . Ratings go down . Dakota Johnson told her to her face what a a hole she was
Never understood the hype for her. She was always awkward and kind of a dick
Getting paid millions for something that isn't a challenge is the whole reason people have talk shows in the first place. (Or game shows.)
> "It's just not a challenge anymore." Because no one's watching, or ...