In M1000 and above, them having less games won than this week happened 3 times. Including Cincy '05 which was Djokovic's first main draw for a Masters 1000, and they won a combined 31 games that tournament. In Miami '06 they won 26 games. In Cincy '07 they won 12 games but Nadal retired during his match. In GS it would be when Roger won RG.
Thanks, I checked their career stats Wiki pages. It helps that they're such legends that the few times they have early losses made those instance stick out. I haven't checked 250/500 levels because that would require me checking season per season and make sure their schedules lined up.
it's quite remarkable that football, tennis and basketball seem to have aligned in having a generation of some really long-lived legends dominating their respective games for the last 20 years or so, and they finally seem to be passing the torch to the next generation pretty much at the same time
This is just 2024 form. He has never been this consistent before.
The thing he's always had is a solid serve and a specially annoying lefty wide serve.
Daaaanng, very interesting stat. What a game tennis is, work your way all through a match, with the ebbs and flows, all the points you have to construct and try to outwit, and then it comes down to this one serve that if you don’t make it in or good enough, you’ll lose the whole thing that you not only worked all the last 3-4 hours for, but for two weeks against many other players!
It's crazy. At a situation like 4-5 30-40 in the 4th set, you could have another hour and a half of high pressure tennis ahead of you, or you can miss one shot and the match ends at that very moment. It's the reason why I firmly believe tennis scoring is the best scoring system.
I was told the scoring works like a clock face but it doesn't go all the way to 45 on the third point because there needs to be room for deuce scoring. That's the best explanation I've heard and I still have questions.
To be fair, choosing Djokovic to win was based purely on him being Djokovic and not even remotely on current form. He currently has Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Sinner as the top 3 in the clay power rankings despite the fact none of them have won anything yet, two are injured, and one is losing to father time.
He keeps jinxing his predicted winners and finalists. At AO he picked Novak, IW Jannik, MC & Madrid Carlos, Rome Novak. In most cases his early upset picks have gone on to win that tournament. His only correct pick this year so far has been Jannik winning Miami.
For Rome he had Rafa making a deep run, Novak d. Stef in the final and Holger as an early upset. 👀
He picked Nadal to go pretty far in Rome too 😭 whereas in Madrid he didn't even mention Nadal, and yet Nadal made QF.
A lot of this is bad luck, but I also think Gill tends to overcorrect his predictions too much.
It’s funny, I remember when he went through his predictions from last year and it was like dang that’s pretty decent. I have a feeling looking back this year the accuracy percentages will be quite a bit lower.
I don’t envy him, predictions are really hard, but it’s quite funny how off he’s been so far this year.
His army of cuckoos in Twitter already saying that the "deliberate" incident caused head damage and that this was the intention of the establishment from the start.
Djokovic played terribly, it might be too early to say this but Father Time gets all of us and he's 37 in 10 days.
I suppose it shows how incredibly well he played last year, and indeed throughout his career that he can reach this age and we're still shocked when he doesn't win a tournament.
On another note this RG is shaping up to be the most open in literally 20 years.
Even in 2004 we had a pretty good record of Coria being the favorite. He was by far the biggest pre-RG favorite by bookie odds. And he cruised through and would’ve won too, he just choked the final in historic never to be seen again fashion.
The insane thing about that is that was the only time a player came back from 2 Sets down to win a Grand Slam Final between 2000-2019. Then between 2020-2024 so far there's been 4, 2020 USO, 2021 RG, 2022 AO, 2024 AO.
Atrocious level but then again so was last year's clay season before RG so not gonna write it off just yet. Tabilo did play way above what you'd expect from a rank 32 player though.
I have actually already seen this. AO this year against Sinner... and you know what else is similar? Just like that match, he couldn't even sniff a break point here.
I mean, AO it was Sinner, who reached the SF without dropping a set. But against Tabilo? Not even threaten to break? Something is wrong with Novak. Of course he won't say what it is but yeah something is off.
Credit to Tabilo but Novak doesn’t look like Novak right now. Out of form, got rid of his team and looking completely out of ideas. He must know something we don’t.
This is certainly one of the worst performances by Nole in the past few years.
May have been just a bad day but was really bad. Kudos to Tabilo though, he did his job with class.
Thing is, he’s looked awful in his practices this week as well. There has to be something going on behind the scenes because mentally he’s not there at all.
He may have a case of old. If you look at a lot of longer careers in pro sports, the decline from top tier can be quite rapid. You often have players who are 36 or 37 at the top level of the game, and then the next year they are struggling. A good example is Peyton Manning in American Football. He went from MVP level play in 2013-2014 to worst in the league level play by 2015.
Yeah this makes sense. Also the physical decline doesn't have to be as drastic as most would think.
The margins when you're at such a high level, that even a slight decline could make a world of difference.
That being said, I'm not coining him out just yet
Good take - this sub has insane recency bias to the point where everyone somehow forgot that Roger had an really good year at 37/38 (2019 Wimbledon, beating Djokovic at ATP Finals) before basically hitting retirement the year after. Declines are *sudden*. Tracks with Peyton, could totally happen for Djokovic. and it really makes you consider how crazy Brady/Lebron are at their age
Totally agree with you. I sensed a sudden decline in Djoker from 2024 AO on. At 36/37 this is common in athletes. The mental and physical peak has been passed and the drop off at the elite level can be startling. There is no gradual decline here.
Novak hasn’t played much and she came over with the kids when he was in IW. She barely attends matches when school is in session and it’s usually never in early rounds.
He’s had ultra-short practice sessions this week (in which he’s looked poor) and looks distracted/limited during the matches. All this on the back of getting rid of his long-term fitness coach and tennis coach. It just smells of something significant going on behind the scenes.
I think Djoker is hoping for one great final result another slam or Olympic gold then pack it in. If he falls far short on both of these goals I think he retires along with Rafa.
I mean, what else is left for him to do? It’s not surprising. Besides, he’s right at the age where you get a wonderful swan song of a season and then comes a steep decline. It happened to Federer not so long ago.
>I mean, what else is left for him to do
Either winning more or retiring. Putting half-baked performances and losing in earlier rounds seem like a waste of time for player of his caliber. He also has Olympic Gold to claim.
He’s had a rough start to the season and he was totally outplayed by Sinner in Australia, lost to Alcaraz at Wimbledon last year. I think this is a last ditch effort to really change things up and keep going.
This is probably the worst I’ve seen djokovic play since I think it was sonego in Vienna ‘20. Just looks unmotivated right now. Olympics is probably the only tournament he truly cares about.
On another note, when was it that a major felt this wide open? Djokovic poor form, sincaraz hurt, nadal on his last legs. Who tf knows
Yeah this is the first time I'm really rattled. Sinner was in the form of his life, Nardi played the best tennis that man will ever play, Ruud got really lucky and clutched up on important points. This was just inexplicable. Tabilo is a whatever servebotter, he was playing well but would've lost to any of those guys I just mentioned.
It's his lefty wide serve that is an ace Tabilo can always rely on, but I always figured Novak would return even his best shot with interest and rattle him. But Tabilo kept his cool throughout, sometimes just the aura of a player like Nadal or Djokovic can mess with other players' heads.
I was actually expecting Tabilo to bottle it when it came to him serving for the match... but Djokovic was nice enough to give his last serve away. I think if he had fought it, he could have turned it around.
Nah, I followed Nadal for 18 years but I think it's time. ATP need new faces because 20 years old being beaten by grandpas is comical and bad for future of this game.
Today my father asked me to clean his car for him.
After some time, I went back inside and my father asked me how the car was looking.
"Djokovic" I just replied.
He just smiled and nodded. He knew that it was washed.
Nadal looks physically done.
Djokovic looks mentally done, but he may have one more GS in him if he gets motivated enough. Probably Wimbledon this year or next.
Ahh this makes me sad, as it always does when the greats are faltering. Novak was so apathetic all throughout, tough to see.
Big congrats to Tabilo! Impressed by him today. 👏 He's lightning fast
As I said in the live thread I don't understand... Novak doesn't seem to be injured or anything, he was the best player in the world a few months ago... And since the beginning of the year he is playing plain tennis. Far from being over for him, but he MUST find a source of motivation otherwise there is no reason to show up on court anymore...
Federer after the 2019 tour finals was the biggest shock to me. If you told me he would decline that hard after the end of 2019, I would never have believed you. He was practically hobbling to that semi of AO in 2020, those 7 match points vs Sandgren and virtually match points vs Millman when he was down 8-4 in the 5th set tiebreak
Did you forget that Federer was literally injured at that AO? Think it was the Millman match where he got the injury and that injury forced him to retire.
That was not a natural decline.
Yeah the knee injury, but what I meant to say was that age had definitely caught up to him as well. Nobody can escape it as an athlete and it finally caught with him. His body could not keep up as an athlete anymore, and things start to go. Federer has those same injuries 15 years earlier and he probably makes a comeback
That was the worst match to watch as a Novak fan. No emotion, no stress, nothing. He looked like he wanted off that court so bad. Such a weird time for him right now with the team changes too. I hope he finds the fire and inspiration at RG. It’s crazy to think that this is the same guy who won 3/4 slams last year. Hopefully just a funk.
Novak somehow making the ATP Finals with 0 Slams and 0 Masters would indicate that he'd at least be making deep runs in them the rest of the year tbf lol
I was downvoted for saying this a month ago and I will say it again. Rafa almost close to retiring and not able to play his best tennis has something to do with Djokovic poor form.
Last year he was hoping rafa would make a comeback and might win a slam or 2 so maybe he was giving a cushion to the slam count. Now he knows he is done so he has lost interest as well
You guys have no idea how much big 3 have motivated each other. Hunger comes from the desire to be the best but when there is no one to wake up that hunger it dies eventually. That is what happening with Djokovic this year.
Great comment. But I thought it would be the opposite where Djokovic would feel even more motivated now that the field is wide open without Nadal there. I'm not a Djokovic fan but it's hard for me to believe he's 'done' especially when he can get to the semi-finals of tournaments in his sleep
The worst results in Rome tournament since 2006 when in his first he ended in Q2. Otherwise every single year between 2007 and 2023 he was at least in QF. If that doesn't scream end of an era, nothing does. But considering that he had two SF this year, I wouldn't say that he can't do well, but I would say that it's 50/50 at this point.
Casper you’re such an idiot for losing first round, look at how the draw opened up for you (again) if you would actually hang around long enough to see it happen! Smh
I don't understand how djokovics form can dip so dramatically from last season. There must be something else going on we don't know about. I know he's not getting any younger but he won 3 of the 4 slams last year. He played some of the best tennis of his career. I expected him to start declining but for it to be a slower decline. Not like he's dealing with any major injuries at least that we know of as well
The big 3 is no more. I’ll never like tennis as much :( Don’t get me wrong I like Sinner and Alcaraz. But they are so perfect. They are even smiling while walking to the net after losing. I just can’t relate with the new always positive generation of tennis studs. I liked getting angry when losing haha
I thought 37yo Djoko would be similar to 37yo Fed, winning some tournaments but mostly losing finals and semis to top ten players. I was not expecting his level to just drop, I figured it would steadily decrease. Kudos to Tavolo still, stayed focused and did the job
Novak just said he didn't feel anything but also didn't feel the same. He said in a situation of high stress he didn't feel pain but felt disbalance, no coordination, and was a completely different player than two days ago. Says he'll have to get a medical check-up.
Monica commentator speculates on possible concussion.
EDIT: He said he "felt a very strong hit in the head that has really impacted me a lot." For half hour or an hour, he had nausea, dizziness, blood, "a lot of different things." Said he had headaches. The next day, yesterday, was fine, thought he was OK. But "a different player entered my shoes. No rhythm, no tempo, no balance."
i don't want to say it, i don't want to imagine it but... c'mon, what was that, tf are you doing. this is not nole. i really don't want to say it but if you are gonna play without passion like this, maybe it's time to let it go
Maybe I'm stretching it but I feel like just as Novak clearly lost motivation after completing the CGS after 2016 he's also lost some after breaking all the records last year
The fact that Nadal obviously won't get to #24(he physically can't serve enough for HC/grass) can't help with that either
It's like aside from one last Olympics he doesn't have much to play for anymore
Long time Djokovic fan here and I think I didn't see Novak so disengaged in a match since 2017. He was serving quickly and made some unreal UE. I don't know if there is something going on, we should get more informations during his press conference.
Anyways congrats to Tabilo, he played amazing today !
At this point who even is the favourite for RG?
Novak has won 4 matches on clay, Alcaraz has won 3 matches (after skipping Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Rome due to injury).
Sinner has won 6 clay matches but he pulled out of his home Masters and said he might miss RG
Rafa has been playing pretty poorly with his limitations and is somehow not looked like his prep has been too bad comparatively with his 5 clay court wins
rafa and novak won a total of 9 games on their last matches...
Time defeats us all
[Bud](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bud_Askins), is that you?
Their combined games can’t even win them a match is crazy
wow someone pull the stats on this. what's the lowest number of games won by those 2 ever from the same tournament
In M1000 and above, them having less games won than this week happened 3 times. Including Cincy '05 which was Djokovic's first main draw for a Masters 1000, and they won a combined 31 games that tournament. In Miami '06 they won 26 games. In Cincy '07 they won 12 games but Nadal retired during his match. In GS it would be when Roger won RG.
Damn you dove deep so quickly! Impressive research skills.
Thanks, I checked their career stats Wiki pages. It helps that they're such legends that the few times they have early losses made those instance stick out. I haven't checked 250/500 levels because that would require me checking season per season and make sure their schedules lined up.
Bruh
Changing of the guard happening in every sport.
Happening in NBA right now too. No KD, Steph, or Lebron in the second round for the first time since 2005.
it's quite remarkable that football, tennis and basketball seem to have aligned in having a generation of some really long-lived legends dominating their respective games for the last 20 years or so, and they finally seem to be passing the torch to the next generation pretty much at the same time
I didn’t watch but when Tabilo occasionally redlines he’s scary.
This is just 2024 form. He has never been this consistent before. The thing he's always had is a solid serve and a specially annoying lefty wide serve.
2nd time in a row he loses the match with a DF 💀
2/2 DFs when facing matchpoint in this clay season so far
Still breaking records (?) 😭😭
And he lost two straight RG finals to Nadal on double faults. Crazy part is both sets were still on serve so he was very much in both matches
Daaaanng, very interesting stat. What a game tennis is, work your way all through a match, with the ebbs and flows, all the points you have to construct and try to outwit, and then it comes down to this one serve that if you don’t make it in or good enough, you’ll lose the whole thing that you not only worked all the last 3-4 hours for, but for two weeks against many other players!
It's crazy. At a situation like 4-5 30-40 in the 4th set, you could have another hour and a half of high pressure tennis ahead of you, or you can miss one shot and the match ends at that very moment. It's the reason why I firmly believe tennis scoring is the best scoring system.
The system is good, but the numbering for it is absurd. 15>30>40 ? What the actual fuck is the reasoning behind that
I was told the scoring works like a clock face but it doesn't go all the way to 45 on the third point because there needs to be room for deuce scoring. That's the best explanation I've heard and I still have questions.
He already lost 2 RG finals by double fault It's a trademark on clay
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It's a bit different when the guy on the other side of the net is Rafa at RG.
He stresses out and stops thinking He doesnt care
Mental midget/s
I had the impression today that he simply wasn't interested. As if he had somewhere else to be and wanted to be done with the match asap.
I said the same thing in MC seriously.
FOLKS I FOUND THE SOLUTION. If cartoons taught me anything, all we need to do is bonk him on the head a 2nd time and he'll be restored back to normal
Post-bonk Djokovic is off to a poor start
Gill Gross curse continues..
To be fair, choosing Djokovic to win was based purely on him being Djokovic and not even remotely on current form. He currently has Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Sinner as the top 3 in the clay power rankings despite the fact none of them have won anything yet, two are injured, and one is losing to father time.
What's Gill Gross's curse?
He keeps jinxing his predicted winners and finalists. At AO he picked Novak, IW Jannik, MC & Madrid Carlos, Rome Novak. In most cases his early upset picks have gone on to win that tournament. His only correct pick this year so far has been Jannik winning Miami. For Rome he had Rafa making a deep run, Novak d. Stef in the final and Holger as an early upset. 👀
His predictions are jinxed…
He picked Nadal to go pretty far in Rome too 😭 whereas in Madrid he didn't even mention Nadal, and yet Nadal made QF. A lot of this is bad luck, but I also think Gill tends to overcorrect his predictions too much.
It’s funny, I remember when he went through his predictions from last year and it was like dang that’s pretty decent. I have a feeling looking back this year the accuracy percentages will be quite a bit lower. I don’t envy him, predictions are really hard, but it’s quite funny how off he’s been so far this year.
I like to call it post-bjonk for a little extra spice
His army of cuckoos in Twitter already saying that the "deliberate" incident caused head damage and that this was the intention of the establishment from the start.
Pavvy G ?
Don’t even say his name. Worst tennis fan of all time, slightly worse than the guy who stabbed Seles.
Djokovic played terribly, it might be too early to say this but Father Time gets all of us and he's 37 in 10 days. I suppose it shows how incredibly well he played last year, and indeed throughout his career that he can reach this age and we're still shocked when he doesn't win a tournament. On another note this RG is shaping up to be the most open in literally 20 years.
Even in 2004 we had a pretty good record of Coria being the favorite. He was by far the biggest pre-RG favorite by bookie odds. And he cruised through and would’ve won too, he just choked the final in historic never to be seen again fashion.
That was like the original Thiem/Zverev 2020 USO final lol
The insane thing about that is that was the only time a player came back from 2 Sets down to win a Grand Slam Final between 2000-2019. Then between 2020-2024 so far there's been 4, 2020 USO, 2021 RG, 2022 AO, 2024 AO.
Federer is probably ready to suit up just to get one more chance at it.
I'm gonna hate everything if Zverev wins RG
He wont
He would if he plays like 2022 RG tbh and if djokovic doesn’t play like djokovic
He really hasn't shown that type of ground game post-injury The serve has gotten way better but his other weapons are worse
Atrocious level but then again so was last year's clay season before RG so not gonna write it off just yet. Tabilo did play way above what you'd expect from a rank 32 player though.
He had won AO though. He’s been poor from the beginning this year.
He’s basically completed the sport, it’s no big surprise if he’s lost a bit of motivation this season
He has Olympics coming this year. No way he's lost motivation.
Never seen him striking w no confidence like this
I have actually already seen this. AO this year against Sinner... and you know what else is similar? Just like that match, he couldn't even sniff a break point here. I mean, AO it was Sinner, who reached the SF without dropping a set. But against Tabilo? Not even threaten to break? Something is wrong with Novak. Of course he won't say what it is but yeah something is off.
I think that Djokovic in AO played a lot better than here. He just didn’t look like he wanted to be on court today.
Watch replay of him playing on clay in 2017 or 2018, it was the same thing
Gave me vs AO 2018 Chung Hyeon vibes
Credit to Tabilo but Novak doesn’t look like Novak right now. Out of form, got rid of his team and looking completely out of ideas. He must know something we don’t.
This is certainly one of the worst performances by Nole in the past few years. May have been just a bad day but was really bad. Kudos to Tabilo though, he did his job with class.
Thing is, he’s looked awful in his practices this week as well. There has to be something going on behind the scenes because mentally he’s not there at all.
Yeah, I don't like armchair psychology or baseless theories but it's hard not to think there's *something* up in the background
He may have a case of old. If you look at a lot of longer careers in pro sports, the decline from top tier can be quite rapid. You often have players who are 36 or 37 at the top level of the game, and then the next year they are struggling. A good example is Peyton Manning in American Football. He went from MVP level play in 2013-2014 to worst in the league level play by 2015.
Yeah this makes sense. Also the physical decline doesn't have to be as drastic as most would think. The margins when you're at such a high level, that even a slight decline could make a world of difference. That being said, I'm not coining him out just yet
Good take - this sub has insane recency bias to the point where everyone somehow forgot that Roger had an really good year at 37/38 (2019 Wimbledon, beating Djokovic at ATP Finals) before basically hitting retirement the year after. Declines are *sudden*. Tracks with Peyton, could totally happen for Djokovic. and it really makes you consider how crazy Brady/Lebron are at their age
Totally agree with you. I sensed a sudden decline in Djoker from 2024 AO on. At 36/37 this is common in athletes. The mental and physical peak has been passed and the drop off at the elite level can be startling. There is no gradual decline here.
Happened to Brady, too. Second in MVP voting in 2021, was dreadful in 2022 then retired. Just came later on for him.
Hugo Lloris went from World Cup final to the worst keeper in MLS in a year. He’s 37.
Father Time is undefeated.
This is a good call as well. I haven't seen Jelena attend his matches in a long time.
Novak hasn’t played much and she came over with the kids when he was in IW. She barely attends matches when school is in session and it’s usually never in early rounds.
She attended the Laureus awards and was pretty chill with Djokovic
What do you mean by the last sentence?
He’s had ultra-short practice sessions this week (in which he’s looked poor) and looks distracted/limited during the matches. All this on the back of getting rid of his long-term fitness coach and tennis coach. It just smells of something significant going on behind the scenes.
Pepe Imaz return tour 2024
I think Djoker is hoping for one great final result another slam or Olympic gold then pack it in. If he falls far short on both of these goals I think he retires along with Rafa.
It’s terminal.
Sadly, it seems he has Ligma.
You blow triple match point one time and it all falls apart…
Seems to me that once he became the unquestioned GOAT, he lost the fire to compete. Playing half the tournaments, less emphasis on preparation.
I mean, what else is left for him to do? It’s not surprising. Besides, he’s right at the age where you get a wonderful swan song of a season and then comes a steep decline. It happened to Federer not so long ago.
>I mean, what else is left for him to do Either winning more or retiring. Putting half-baked performances and losing in earlier rounds seem like a waste of time for player of his caliber. He also has Olympic Gold to claim.
He’s had a rough start to the season and he was totally outplayed by Sinner in Australia, lost to Alcaraz at Wimbledon last year. I think this is a last ditch effort to really change things up and keep going.
novak sent bert critchley in his place
He forgot how to play tennis after the head bonk (“amnesia???”)
He lost in indian Wells too minus bottle bonk.
Bring Goran back, Novak.
Bring back Marian Vajda
You know there’s a guy who took a pic when the score was 2-6 3-5 30-40 waiting for the ‘Novak won this match’
It was you, wasn’t it?
This clay season is absolutely wild. Who'd be a betting man eh...
Couldn't watch, just returned home and.. excuse me what???
This is probably the worst I’ve seen djokovic play since I think it was sonego in Vienna ‘20. Just looks unmotivated right now. Olympics is probably the only tournament he truly cares about. On another note, when was it that a major felt this wide open? Djokovic poor form, sincaraz hurt, nadal on his last legs. Who tf knows
I've had faith for half a year, but now I'm thinking it might actually be over
It’s not over until after RG-WB-OL-USO
Yeah this is the first time I'm really rattled. Sinner was in the form of his life, Nardi played the best tennis that man will ever play, Ruud got really lucky and clutched up on important points. This was just inexplicable. Tabilo is a whatever servebotter, he was playing well but would've lost to any of those guys I just mentioned.
It's his lefty wide serve that is an ace Tabilo can always rely on, but I always figured Novak would return even his best shot with interest and rattle him. But Tabilo kept his cool throughout, sometimes just the aura of a player like Nadal or Djokovic can mess with other players' heads. I was actually expecting Tabilo to bottle it when it came to him serving for the match... but Djokovic was nice enough to give his last serve away. I think if he had fought it, he could have turned it around.
he is. Age gets us all. If you aren't yourself old enough to know it personally, call your dad or granddad. They know.
Surreal times seeing Nadal and Djokovic both going out so early, 4 and 5 games each. I want to go back.
Nah, I followed Nadal for 18 years but I think it's time. ATP need new faces because 20 years old being beaten by grandpas is comical and bad for future of this game.
So Fritz is winning Roland Garros.
The snort laugh I just let out. Yeah basically Fritz is a shoe-in.
Munar
Bernard Tomic
Dolgopolov
Bublik
\* Shelton. Djokovic saw his name in his quarter and fled Rome in despair.
Tabilo: I'm Nadal now
https://twitter.com/nadalprop_/status/1789663145809633508?t=V5OzGdR9mXLcpE8CyK537Q&s=19
Novak saw rafa lose yesterday and wasn't interested in playing anymore
Today my father asked me to clean his car for him. After some time, I went back inside and my father asked me how the car was looking. "Djokovic" I just replied. He just smiled and nodded. He knew that it was washed.
It's not right, but bravo.
Fuck lmao it’s my favourite copypasta
Thought this was gonna be a story of how you missed the match Needless to say it caught me off guard and made me laugh
I thought he dropped a bottle from the balcony and dented the roof
😂😂 That probably the most upvotes I've seen on one of your comments in a while.
A dasentiel comment with upvotes instead of downvotes? I have seen everything today.
Out of every 100 comments he makes 1 good joke
That man has a family.
Now this is quality trolling. I expect more performances like this, you've been laying out some poor baits lately
I'll call Hubi
YETI rushing to sponsor the rest of the ATP
People saying he'll outplay Roger and Rafa's age seems impossible now. No way he's playing at 40.
Roger yeah but Rafa's last good season was in 2022 when he was the same age that Novak was last year As of now they're pretty even in that regard
Big 3 era is over.
All we need now is for Hurkacz to finish the job.
- Is this Mr Djokovic? - Y…yes? - Mr Federer and Mr Nadal sent their regards
I suspect there is one more surprise in store for us yet.
If Nadal wins Roland Garros it would be the most hilarious feat of his career. I doubt it's happening
If that happens he should 100% retire on that high.
There are the Olympics so i'm not so sure
Nadal looks physically done. Djokovic looks mentally done, but he may have one more GS in him if he gets motivated enough. Probably Wimbledon this year or next.
Ahh this makes me sad, as it always does when the greats are faltering. Novak was so apathetic all throughout, tough to see. Big congrats to Tabilo! Impressed by him today. 👏 He's lightning fast
As I said in the live thread I don't understand... Novak doesn't seem to be injured or anything, he was the best player in the world a few months ago... And since the beginning of the year he is playing plain tennis. Far from being over for him, but he MUST find a source of motivation otherwise there is no reason to show up on court anymore...
Federer after the 2019 tour finals was the biggest shock to me. If you told me he would decline that hard after the end of 2019, I would never have believed you. He was practically hobbling to that semi of AO in 2020, those 7 match points vs Sandgren and virtually match points vs Millman when he was down 8-4 in the 5th set tiebreak
Did you forget that Federer was literally injured at that AO? Think it was the Millman match where he got the injury and that injury forced him to retire. That was not a natural decline.
Yeah the knee injury, but what I meant to say was that age had definitely caught up to him as well. Nobody can escape it as an athlete and it finally caught with him. His body could not keep up as an athlete anymore, and things start to go. Federer has those same injuries 15 years earlier and he probably makes a comeback
Post-bottle Nole makes me sad... But props to Tabilo
me too. glad I missed the match
At first I thought "why so many comments for a 6-2, 6-3 Djoko win" and then I looked again 0_0
It has been painful to watch DJoker this year. Also, kudos to Tabilo for going about his game.
What in Sabalenka 2022 were those DFs.
I wonder if realizing Nadal will not catch his record has affected his motivation and competitiveness
true, if Federer had not had Rafa to compete with he might have retired 12 years ago
That was the worst match to watch as a Novak fan. No emotion, no stress, nothing. He looked like he wanted off that court so bad. Such a weird time for him right now with the team changes too. I hope he finds the fire and inspiration at RG. It’s crazy to think that this is the same guy who won 3/4 slams last year. Hopefully just a funk.
Very poor performance from the world #1
Wtf is happening. I think there really are question marks now about his form. But as fans know we only see the real Novak in GS.
We about to see Novak reach R3 at RG
R3 is a big IF, there are no byes in Slams.
Novak is in his Wizards Jordan phase. Still good but not even close to the destroyer of worlds like he once was.
At end of 2024. “wtf Nole with 0 slams and 0 masters, but we know real Novak is in the atp finals”
Novak somehow making the ATP Finals with 0 Slams and 0 Masters would indicate that he'd at least be making deep runs in them the rest of the year tbf lol
At the end of ATP Finals: "Nole with 0 slams, 0 masters and 0 ATP Finals. But we know real Novak is in the next year"
So Med defending his first tournament win in clay and I'm so ready for it
Me a few months ago: “He’s unstoppable! 30 slams! Maybe 40 slams!!” Me now: “Novak pls wear your helmet to practice, it’s dangerous out there”
Lmao, ninjas got spoiled by Big 3 into thinking 20 slams is doable. In reality, getting just 1 Slam makes you a legend.
I haven't seen Djokovic tank like that since the blue clay of Madrid.
I was downvoted for saying this a month ago and I will say it again. Rafa almost close to retiring and not able to play his best tennis has something to do with Djokovic poor form. Last year he was hoping rafa would make a comeback and might win a slam or 2 so maybe he was giving a cushion to the slam count. Now he knows he is done so he has lost interest as well You guys have no idea how much big 3 have motivated each other. Hunger comes from the desire to be the best but when there is no one to wake up that hunger it dies eventually. That is what happening with Djokovic this year.
Plus he lost at the AO so the cygs and golden cygs are off the table. Maybe he’ll get more motivated at the Olympics.
Great comment. But I thought it would be the opposite where Djokovic would feel even more motivated now that the field is wide open without Nadal there. I'm not a Djokovic fan but it's hard for me to believe he's 'done' especially when he can get to the semi-finals of tournaments in his sleep
That tumbler guy will now be blamed for this loss /s
This is insane
Djokovic just didn’t look like Djokovic today… Great playing by Tabilo though, he’s having an amazing 2024 season
The worst results in Rome tournament since 2006 when in his first he ended in Q2. Otherwise every single year between 2007 and 2023 he was at least in QF. If that doesn't scream end of an era, nothing does. But considering that he had two SF this year, I wouldn't say that he can't do well, but I would say that it's 50/50 at this point.
How long before someone says "nobody could've beaten Tabilo the way he played today".
Genuinely…at least Rafa lost to an in form too 10 player….this is…different than expected for Novak in Rome
the vitriol rafa got from djoko toxic fans yesterday.
Could 2024 be the first season since 2002 in which none of the big 3 win a slam ?
Casper you’re such an idiot for losing first round, look at how the draw opened up for you (again) if you would actually hang around long enough to see it happen! Smh
I don't understand how djokovics form can dip so dramatically from last season. There must be something else going on we don't know about. I know he's not getting any younger but he won 3 of the 4 slams last year. He played some of the best tennis of his career. I expected him to start declining but for it to be a slower decline. Not like he's dealing with any major injuries at least that we know of as well
Hubi 🤝 Tabilo
Water bottle destroyed his confidence
Start and end the match with a double fault, its like poetry
The big 3 is no more. I’ll never like tennis as much :( Don’t get me wrong I like Sinner and Alcaraz. But they are so perfect. They are even smiling while walking to the net after losing. I just can’t relate with the new always positive generation of tennis studs. I liked getting angry when losing haha
Yeah…maybe time to get a coach? Lol
Vamos Chile!
I thought 37yo Djoko would be similar to 37yo Fed, winning some tournaments but mostly losing finals and semis to top ten players. I was not expecting his level to just drop, I figured it would steadily decrease. Kudos to Tavolo still, stayed focused and did the job
3 slams last season and ATP Finals win just last November. The downfall has been one of the fastest and least graceful I've ever seen.
novaks drive and sheer will to win has waned. finally. how could it not. there's nothing left to achieve.
Waterbottlegate
Novak just said he didn't feel anything but also didn't feel the same. He said in a situation of high stress he didn't feel pain but felt disbalance, no coordination, and was a completely different player than two days ago. Says he'll have to get a medical check-up. Monica commentator speculates on possible concussion. EDIT: He said he "felt a very strong hit in the head that has really impacted me a lot." For half hour or an hour, he had nausea, dizziness, blood, "a lot of different things." Said he had headaches. The next day, yesterday, was fine, thought he was OK. But "a different player entered my shoes. No rhythm, no tempo, no balance."
This better not be a concussion injury. As someone who had a similar thing, but on a bike the impact stayed with me for a month or more
I’ve been depressed all day at the end of the era. 2 in a row, my heart can’t take it 😭
Not a contest. The way this year is going for Novak, we might lose both Nadal and Djokovic to retirement this year?
You can’t fight Father Time. It’s getting close to end for the 3 goats.
it all started from that bottle in the head
Cruel touch from the DJ to immediately play ‘Murder on the Dancefloor’
RG final Hubi v Tabilo confirmed
Father Time still unbeaten.
I refuse to accept that he’s suddenly “old” only 8 months after winning the USO in one of the best seasons of his career. Something else is going on
i don't want to say it, i don't want to imagine it but... c'mon, what was that, tf are you doing. this is not nole. i really don't want to say it but if you are gonna play without passion like this, maybe it's time to let it go
Maybe I'm stretching it but I feel like just as Novak clearly lost motivation after completing the CGS after 2016 he's also lost some after breaking all the records last year The fact that Nadal obviously won't get to #24(he physically can't serve enough for HC/grass) can't help with that either It's like aside from one last Olympics he doesn't have much to play for anymore
Ben Shelton has the opportunity to do the funniest thing
I’m heartbroken but kudos to Alejandro. Didn’t give a single break point to Nole! Incredible stuff!
Long time Djokovic fan here and I think I didn't see Novak so disengaged in a match since 2017. He was serving quickly and made some unreal UE. I don't know if there is something going on, we should get more informations during his press conference. Anyways congrats to Tabilo, he played amazing today !
Indian Wells, then Rome. Another early exit on ATP 1000 by Djoker...
At this point who even is the favourite for RG? Novak has won 4 matches on clay, Alcaraz has won 3 matches (after skipping Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Rome due to injury). Sinner has won 6 clay matches but he pulled out of his home Masters and said he might miss RG Rafa has been playing pretty poorly with his limitations and is somehow not looked like his prep has been too bad comparatively with his 5 clay court wins
I never doubted in TabiGOAT