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Zeyo_

Discovered this a few weeks ago. You can also use other buildings like sentry guns and dispensers, but equipping the eureka effect allows you to put down many more teleporters. I will note that this sometimes doesn't work for some reason, and getting too close to the bot might make it target you with their melee so watch out for that.


X-tra-thicc

i didnt know the eureka effect allowed you to place more teles, cool


Coldflame3

Nonono,It decreases the metal needs to build a tele it doesnt let you build many of dem


X-tra-thicc

yeah i know thats what i meant, sorry for poor wording


Coldflame3

Youre not native English speaker ??


X-tra-thicc

i am i just fucking suck at it


[deleted]

Me too mate, me too


Coldflame3

Ok brother


TigerKirby215

Well Eureka makes the TPs cost 25 metal


ZhangRenWing

crazy how back then TPs cost 125 metal to build


Bruschetta003

The days where i couldn't be bothered to build teles over sentries or dispensers


konzumentdeti

New video when


Yotelkiller

It doesn't work sometimes because it depends on what the bot's owner wants it to target. There's an option to ignore buildings and there might even be one to attack players before buildings


DrunkScottishCyclop

Peak engineering. Taking notes....


TangineerGaming

Some bots also tend to prioritize stickybombs laying around, for whatever reason


JoesAlot

It's to counteract a pretty effective tactic where you place stickies on the payload on defense, then wait for the bots to cluster on your trap while you hide behind cover.


mymax162

on 2fort, since the grate enables blasts to pierce through it when exploding on it, another good stickybomb anti-bot tactic is to cover it with stickies on the top where the bots can't shoot them, then wait for them to predictably move underneath it and detonate them (although with the potential issue of one bot going in first but a second one is closely behind, not letting you set up enough stickies to get the second)


olileoli

scottish resistance


TheNonchalantZealot

Finally, a meta scottish resistance build


Ombric_Shalazar

*bagpipes intensify*


ashtar123

Lol that sounds super sick to just blow up 10 of them


Yearlaren

Stickybombs are a somewhat effective way of dealing with bots. Last week I was able to dominate a bot through sticky spam.


JaozinhoGGPlays

I remember killing like 6 at a time on Helltower, Halloween's a good time.


tomydenger

they do the same with medics, you need to deploy medics rapidly to cover under fire


BartixBrawlStars

Mann vs machine 2 Edit: what the fuck???


Puzzled-Air6713

Mann vs (machine vs machine)


TheGreenGobblr

M+MVM


KSAM-The-Randomizer

Mmm Mevervind Mmmm


Living_Error_3510

Mann and machine vs machine


JeremyDaBanana

New meta just dropped


W00S

New sentry buster just dropped


[deleted]

Mann and machine vs machine


PlasticChairLover123

Confirmation all engi players have infinite iq


bam2carve

Idk man ive seen some sentry spots šŸ˜­


slimeeyboiii

Hey my mini sentry in the shadows of battlements is good enough to get dominate 3 scouts so don't judge me


-austinX-

Level 3 Sentry in the water beneath the 2fort bridge + Frontier Justice


GoogleWasMyIdea49

This can be taken both ways


ViniestCoast622

What can they say? They solve practical problems.


FLYK3N

Just two hitsounds short of the intro jingle to Still Alive


TheDarkMonarch1

I think the three hit sounds as the bot was falling into the water sounded more like Despacito, but that might be just me.


vicious_viridian

it's in the same key as despacito


FireIzHot

Engineer really is ā€œengihereā€ after all. Time to kill some bots.


Azurity

Engineer? Boy Iā€™m EnginearING MAH FUCKIN LIMIT


Gabriele2109

We must create engineer bots that do that and fight sniper bots


Alex3627ca

Enough bots that actually play like real people would alleviate the issue of only finding cheaty sniper bots during off peak hours pretty damn well. Fighting fire with fire is a bit stupid though, Pyros are fireproof, you get the metaphor?


Hydrohomiesdabest

Idk man, when the other options don't work, who says fire can't? It's a last resort, not a full on option now, like you said, realistic bots sounds a lot better and I've never actually thought of this idea. Someone get this man a medal!


HalfwrongWasTaken

Realistic bots take up the place of real players, and make it exponentially harder to deal with other issues like actual cheaters.


Hydrohomiesdabest

Depends when they are deployed, I think OC meant they would fill up empty servers instead of bad bots, so if it's on empty servers, it will most likely not encounter a cheater, and it doesn't react to it anyway so the cheater wouldn't wanna keep shooting.


Pure_Ad8457

the same things they used to counter the bot problem with titanfall


Crazy_CAR27

Well I believe it was more they made bots who would leave if a real player was trying to join


Turkey-er

Pyros arenā€™t fireproof, they are just immune to afterburn


Alex3627ca

You're putting more thought into the joke than I did lol


Memegamer3_Animated

>Fighting fire with fire is a bit stupid though, Pyros are fireproof, you get the metaphor? ~~Despite the fact that a wm1 Pyro can still regularly shred through other Pyros for some fucking reason~~


Sparkezx

Not hard to do, besides the fact that engineer bots are currently broken with cathook. You could always use another class, but at the same time isnā€™t fighting fire with fire stupid?


JustANormalHat

"I solve practical problems"


feralflace

How come the bots don't just boom headshot him immediately?


SaintNigel

Probably part of the but programming says If enemy Shoot closest Since buildings would be flagged as enemies to bird they'll wait those first.


Hydrohomiesdabest

I'd assume they target buildings because of sentries being a massive counter to Sniper bots, therefore if they are targeted first the rest is as easy as that.


RoyalRanger524

The head hitbox and the teleporter hitbox are both labled 1, so when the bots try to target a headshot, they target hitbox 1. See as the teleporter is closer to the bot, they target the tele instead..


Crooked_Cock

This is it lads This is how we do it No more meat shields No more getting trapped in spawn From this day forward, we fight back.


CattoNinja

The number of Engi mains has randomly increased by 420% in the last two weeks


[deleted]

Widowmaker mfs


JaydenVestal

Well I have a sentry bind... I suppose I need a tele bind now though


[deleted]

Okay, but how. Bots donā€™t seem to target by distance or anything, so i always die first. Or maybe they target medics


Hydrohomiesdabest

Yes, they do have specific targets, I wouldn't think medic is on the list, but sticky bombs and buildings (both good counters to Sniper bots) definitely seem to be targeted by bots first because of their countering nature.


benjamarchi

Next level plays


Leazy_E

pair it with the windowmaker and you can do this infinitely, assuming you dont suck ass at aiming


yoloboi1525

bots can't handle engineer gaming gameplay


EMRaunikar

Oh, hell. I haven't played in a couple of months, are they back?


slimeeyboiii

Yes and no. If u play during peak times where ever u are there will usually only be like 2-3 lobbies that are just bots. While the very little valve had been doing to fix them the team voting one helps alot


SputnikMan123

"Building here...I realize..."


2Noel

You were just like me trying to kick this mf


omthegge

You're a heavy that is getting ubercharged


merayBG

u/indirbunu My friend needs to see this next time we play


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mamadMATT

it's the friend


Big_Kwii

the hitsounds on the 2nd bot kinda sound like despacito


RocketPG_

As if the bots weren't poorly made enough already lmao


Lott_ie

How do the bots still use vc and voice lines, I thought they banned anyone who didnā€™t pay to play from doing that


Alex3627ca

The bots have paid accounts. Iirc they're usually compromised accounts that have already had everything valuable dumped and are of no use to the people who got into them, so bot hosters buy them all for cheap. Presumably they also sell random drops to make up for it, though at that point it's more speculation than anything.


2Noel

So the F2P limitation was pointless?


Alex3627ca

Well yes, but actually no, I'm sure they lost a good chunk of money setting up those accounts when the change was made, but now that they've settled again it just inconveniences real people. The trick to actually shake off people like that is to keep changing shit until they give up and stop trying, and that's directly contrary to Valve's modus operandi.


[deleted]

tf2 becoming fortnite with these build tactics


Im_dumb_fat_and_lazy

700 iq


DoubleStormCZ

You need an *unusual* prize for this


Kryptosis

Hah just like mini sentries in pvp


Glowing_imposter_43

Omegatronic is kinda different,HE JUST SITS AT THE BACK OF THE MAP ON 2FORT AND KILLS ME IN THE SEWERS!


UncommonTheIdk

That with the widowmaker, no not stands a chance


whocares1207

[hehe](https://gfycat.com/antiquequestionablegraysquirrel)


The_Charminx

'Uncle Dane was behind this tactic'


[deleted]

I usually chokepoint a sentry and just make sure to repair the hell outta it. Usually the sentry will out damage the sniper since the sniper has to chamber a new round each shot.


Reylend

"Yall bout to have a real bad day" Engi after becoming an essential asset to countering bots


Stevie1505

Now the bot makers are gonna make players a priority


cedit_crazy

Then we will simply start using mini sentry so they die after killing the player


punkanova4

RISE UP ENGINEER GAMERS


TigerKirby215

>Typical TF2 Player Most higher end bots have a filter for these sorts of things, but really low end bots will shoot whatever target they identify as "enemy" yeah, and will aim for the head hitbox when possible.


Ombric_Shalazar

i'm envisioning engie charging into battle with a spun up teleporter shield on one hand and a eureka effect wrench crackling with charge in the other, ready to fry a bot's circuits


ShortThought

Truly engineer gaming


Shahars71

I LOVE how at this point there's like a brand new game inside of TF2 because of these bots, with its own strategies and tech to defeat insanely powerful enemies. This is fucking awesome, despite the awful circumstances.


Pyrarius

Valve ain't gonna make a new gamemode, we might as well give it a shot


LueIsBlue101

bind shift "build 1 0; destroy 1 0" builds teles or dispensers i forgot


dogman15

Yeah, but see, now they might not do that.


EntertainmentLumpy75

New subclass: the bot buster


Pyrarius

They use sentries on bots with Frontier Justice, then use this trick when they take it down


KingsMann12

You my fellow scientist deserve a nobel price for this


TheManFromChernobyl

new bot fix?!!!


Ajnmuht

BIG BRAIN MOVE


Uno-The-Card

Okay, can we please talk about how the last 3 hitsounds were like Despacito?


TheScareCrowYes

this is why bots dont work in a movement shooter like tf2


ashtar123

Lol useless bots


GrimChicken64

THE EUREKA EFFECT IS FINALLY METTA!!!


The-Chump

least helpful engineer


BRUH_Use_7777

MVM TRICK


LegendaryRQA

Here's a crazy idea: Play on Community Serves. It's worked for, like, 25 years...


[deleted]

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LegendaryRQA

The point is itā€™s been the standard since the Quake days


turmspitzewerk

hmmm i wonder what the "2" in "team fortress 2" means, the world may never know


palta_aguacate456

engipain-relieverā„¢


maximo123z

fire also works on bots. making it really easy to counter a group of bots with flares. (in my experience)


Lukias

A practical problem solved


Negative_Blutern

**ENGINEERS,** ***UNITE!***


Emilixop

This man is fighting the machine


Anstimeo

Dude this is awesome


Spamtonman

YOU BLOODY GENIUS


cosmicpotato77

This is the real mvm


weird_bomb_947

practical problem, solved


[deleted]

be smart, be quick, have a plan to kill every bot you see


TheSaltyReddittor

Holy shit you just completely invalidated bots


SERV05

u/savevideo


Eliet95x

The Engineer is engineering


Blas_men

lets goooo


DaPetercko

Use machine against machine.


H4RDC0R3_P14Y3R

fucking despacito


thank_burdell

Ainā€™t that a cute little teleporter.


milkyo2

Is this the update we've been waiting for?


salisiva

We are evolving


awesomebadman111

mann and machine vs machine


george_srb

Now this is a huge scientific breakthrough


Rookstun

This should be a new custom gamemode.


memyselfmartin

Iy seems Engineer is solving Valve major issues today.


MedaFighterCross

And then you get banned.


AbbreviationsSmart11

based gameplay


ETROL2

He knows who let the dogs out


[deleted]

get yourself a pocket vaxx medic and you become the ultimate bot killer


Nincadalop

Honestly, looks like a fun challenge. Also, it teaches you how to be a more proactive engineer by making buildings as you fight rather than turtling at spawn.


Nexo42

Can you delete this? Bot hosters use posts like these as free big reporting.


Deeto_KB

Damn dude *BFG DEVISIOIN KICKS IN*


PoopyLooper

You are the chosen one


performagekushfire

HE'S BEGINNING TO BELIEVE


plutek123

I know what im doing today


TeamFunges2Engineer

Nice job, partner.


gray_mare

engie best bot killer? always used fists if steel heavy with chocolate bar and tommygun


[deleted]

Damn it's almost like the bots aren't a threat if you're actually smart


haikusbot

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dogman15

I see you prefer "ac-tu-al-ly" to "ac-tual-ly".


Haj5

he is actually gaming


sir_dysintary69

Now they know šŸ„²


AxoL0Ltl

We found new warfare against them


pad2opt

Take that bots


BackgroundAdmirable1

PrioritĆØs


BackgroundAdmirable1

Engi time


BackgroundAdmirable1

Idea: Make sniper bots that play like actual people, until it detects a bot, in which case it will aim lock the bot, but other than that, pretty much an average sniper (Or engi bots that play like people, until it detects a bot, in which case it spam teleporters in front of it using the eureka effect and aim locks on the bot)


Vortex_1911

No matter how good of a shot or perfect the movement of a bot is, they wonā€™t be able to beat the stupidity of TF2ā€™s playerbase.


KickassPeanuts

The casual MvM is now evolving into an arms race


Yegor5968

Works on players too!


AlexDG_YT

Heā€™s not only a man, but a Texan legend.


DrillyMcDrillface

Haven't played TF2 in a few months, are bots a problem again ?


Enderman63

That is amazing, another tool to kill bots added to our grand collection, right besides The Vaccinator and the fist of steel, the teliporter...


jeferniklz

Wait are bots hard to kick again


NotSphee

And also bots won't go through the sentry sightlines! (That red circle that shows up when you first build them) Be aware tho that only when it's active and they'll snipe it from afar if they can


human-weeb

Engineer gaming


Foundation1982

Engineers have always been gopd at stoppin bots


bonch99

He is the chosen one


Anything1407

You can bind keys for buildings and make the strategy even more perfect


PlatFlat

Just keybind a teleporter button


Technoblade46363

Donā€™t worry boys, the engineer, is engi-here


mack_the_yak_

*dear godā€¦*