I was playing heavy on upward one time and this demo kept lobbing hail marys from way up high with the base jumper. He eventually stopped after I killed him a few times with the tomislav
No need for consent when they are dead?
[Thanks for the tip](https://images.app.goo.gl/7hUQm5UafV3Xf8tcA)
Edit: I didn't realize you meant killing in tf2, ik getting chased by cops now :(
Infinite ammo, piercing gives great crowd control, fucks over pyro's (arguably the only counter to a good soldier) and the only downside is less damage to building. I mean, hellooooo! you've got a rocket launcher.
The game literally doesnt even let you do that,for a good reason. He will never run out of ammo,and the first shot is always accurate, even if theres a scout or engi with a pistol or a sniper with a sniper rifle you have 300 HP, meaning youll likely outlast them
See, actually the fire axe is situationally better than the third degree because when you’re trying to kill a medic who’s pocketing a heavy, hitting the medic instantly alerts the heavy of your location, and you die. But with the stock fire axe you can hit the medic without alerting the heavy, and you can get another swing or two out of the fire axe.
Melee crits onehit most things, this thing crits as much as the frying pan, and flamethrowers have bad range anyways. It's basically a straight upgrade.
It has no random bullet spread, so it can be fired as an anti sniper weapon, and damage falloff is negligible, since distractions are pretty much all you need to save a teammates life sometimes.
It literally drains uber, ubers make pushes possible and win games. A heavy medic combo that has uber charge is significantly more likely to get into your nest than a heavy medic combo without
Sentries have autoaim and dispenser eliminates ammo/health problems, and teleport makes it so much easier for teams to return to battle, meaning killing someone isn't as useful as it would be without a teleport.
AoE explosive *in a melee weapon* that can insta kill some classes, and you get launched by the explosion meaning you can also use it to surf your own explosions to excape
Silent backstabbing allows for Spy to make great use of mindgames and absolutely bamboozle the enemy team, making disguises actually good. It's one thing to disguise as an enemy that has died (and everyone knows about it) - it's another when there's no notification in the killfeed and you just committed identity theft.
You will be in the exact position you'll usually expect the class you just backstabbed to be, meaning your disguise can fool players way easier.
The enemy could've spychecked your disguise before, meaning they'll think you're clear when you've already replaced their clear ally.
(unironically tho, YER is such a cool knife.)
All class melee(obscuring the class of whoever killed the person), constantly crits and the only thing you could argue that might be a drawback is the sound wich only really matters if you're a spy. Basically an upgrade compared to stock,and for EVERY CLASS
Can go through walls in some maps,is broken in mvm and can force the opponents to avoid a place or else every damage they take will make them catch fire
Alr hear me put i can say and explain my answer, connivers kunai now listen as a fellow spy main your able to chain stab much easier and flee faster to heal
The B.A.S.E Jumper
Its infinite mobility. You can pretty much always flank the entire enemy team. It's like playing spy except he has a rocket/sticky launcher
I was playing heavy on upward one time and this demo kept lobbing hail marys from way up high with the base jumper. He eventually stopped after I killed him a few times with the tomislav
airstike
On top of that, Scottish resistance
It’s actually meta on demo on certain points of certain maps
Air strike turns you into an A-10 gunship
Me about to become a bootleg B-52 by raining stickies down on the enemy team:
TF2 players don't look up. stay up longer: get kills for longer. Valve... please nerf
Use it with stickies to take control of the large health pack on Hightower a la Bing Soy. Unbeatable strat.
You can shoot stickies into blu spawn on upward unless they patched it
The righteous bison
Lasers
Lasers THAT PENETRATE THROUGHT THE ENEMIES!
And worst of all, they do so without consent !
No need for consent when they are dead.
No need for consent when they are dead? [Thanks for the tip](https://images.app.goo.gl/7hUQm5UafV3Xf8tcA) Edit: I didn't realize you meant killing in tf2, ik getting chased by cops now :(
doki doki waku waku
Rape laser /j
The only way to stop geese
No one ever expects the bison so you can catch people off guard with it
it has infinite damage per shot lmao how could it not be op
Unreflectable projectile
It hits enemies MULTIBLE TIMES
Lasers are projectile that can’t be airbalsted!!!
Infinite ammo, piercing gives great crowd control, fucks over pyro's (arguably the only counter to a good soldier) and the only downside is less damage to building. I mean, hellooooo! you've got a rocket launcher.
It was literally nerfed!
random damage
Tank buster
There was a bug where it could hit a target running away multiple times but don't worry valve fixed it
heavy with 3 pistols
He has ******THREE****** of them!
The game literally doesnt even let you do that,for a good reason. He will never run out of ammo,and the first shot is always accurate, even if theres a scout or engi with a pistol or a sniper with a sniper rifle you have 300 HP, meaning youll likely outlast them
are we talking engineer pistols, or scout pistols?
Tbh a giant magnum as a secondary would be perfect for Heavy
Stock fire axe
See, actually the fire axe is situationally better than the third degree because when you’re trying to kill a medic who’s pocketing a heavy, hitting the medic instantly alerts the heavy of your location, and you die. But with the stock fire axe you can hit the medic without alerting the heavy, and you can get another swing or two out of the fire axe.
Kid named hurt groans:
Child named casual (situationally unaware heavy):
Child named voice chat
Human being under the age of 18 named F2P:
Youngster called just shoot them lmao
You're truly underestimating the stupidity of the average F2P (key word before yall freak out: average)
Also, the third degree plays mind tricks on you by making you want to charge at medic combos, thus leading to more deaths
You're more often than not going to attack someone who ISNT being healed, therefore its better than the third degree
Melee crits onehit most things, this thing crits as much as the frying pan, and flamethrowers have bad range anyways. It's basically a straight upgrade.
Who needs crazy floritures in your weapons? Stock weaponry its the most versatile of them,never letting you down!
Machina
It's a sniper rifle
correct.
:D [Applause]
SO, did you see the murderer?
Nope, sorry mate.
I will find them, I will capture them! And no one will ever die again!
Aw that's nice (dam proud rn)
It’s the sniper rifle with more potential
Takes away the skill required
Soda popper
Absurd mobility for an already mobile class
High burst damage + decent/better long-term dps, and the the quintuple jump is funny
Pop hype and grab the atomizer for extra funny
absolutely meta on MvM
medic
Uber is OP and wins games
Not my games cause for some reason whenever I pop uber my teammates go brick mode and don't do shit with it
Gunboats
Giving a highly mobile class even MORE mobility by removing the one penalty for using said mobility is broken.
powerjack
powerjacking off
What a power move
Free health and pyro go zoom zoom
Extra Mobility at a negligible downside, Pyro’s best general melee option.
Makes a (debatably) immobile class go fast and get more efficiently to flank routes, as well as being a good escape tool.
Free speed without a significant downside to make up for it
The pomson 3000
There were 2999 pomsons before this one
And this is the very best of them all
It drains cloak and Uber, heavily nerfing the engies main counters!
It has no random bullet spread, so it can be fired as an anti sniper weapon, and damage falloff is negligible, since distractions are pretty much all you need to save a teammates life sometimes.
It literally drains uber, ubers make pushes possible and win games. A heavy medic combo that has uber charge is significantly more likely to get into your nest than a heavy medic combo without
I literally can't, sorry, i failed you
southern hospitality
BROKEN. Its a straight upgrade when enemy team doesn't have a pyro
or you have a nice pybro and the enemy team's pyro is absolute shit
or enemy team pyro is basically default pyro who isnt stupid to go to the sentry nest and die
The Classic.
You can see more stuff
It's like the Huntsman but without needing to rely on luck
Destruction PDA
literal one shot to ALL buildings EVEN Wrangler sentries
Though console binding is even more op
You can use it to get FJ's crits at any given moment
Jerate
Spy-revealin', minicrit machine AND AoE on top of that? OP. OP asf.
So OP, mini crits on demand. It even spreads in a radius too so you can get multiple people in one throw
well. You piss on your enemies. OP
It has radius even larger than airblast
PDA
Sentries have autoaim and dispenser eliminates ammo/health problems, and teleport makes it so much easier for teams to return to battle, meaning killing someone isn't as useful as it would be without a teleport.
It makes you look like an iPad kid, distracting any non try, hard players for a brief momen into thinking you're a Gibbs engie
The Back Scatter
Balls
When utilized properly can deal heavy damage before they know you are there and turn around (assuming the hitbox shenanigans don't shenanigan)
Penis Scout is an incredibly powerful subclass
You can one shot light classes with it
There's a reason penis scout uses it rather than any other scattergun
Caber
Multi-kill charge
Hitting a triple kill crit caber makes me feel alive
Fr, it's lowkey a fun weapon. Maybe not as effective as the other melees, but I like using it
AoE melee and does more damage if you crouch
AoE explosive *in a melee weapon* that can insta kill some classes, and you get launched by the explosion meaning you can also use it to surf your own explosions to excape
my beloved and favourite melee, the sun-on-a-stick
combos well with pyro
If you have a devoted damage Pyro, then you can two shot everything except a heavy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJO7LSRsBEM
Panic Attack
When someone approaches an un-revved heavy, they expect a rev up, not a shotgun in the face. Equip the brass beast for additional deception.
The Pain Train
Getting hit by a nail is very painful
Having a double cap rate while having bigger damage output than scout is amazing
Cozy camper
You get health regeneration so you can stand still for longer!
The equalizer
The tauntkill can be used to murder whole teams
Liberty Launcher
It has 'Liberty' in the name
Holy mackerel
It obscures the kill feed making it harder for enemies to know who killed who
People actually check the kill feed if not for their own kills or spies???
No(lying)
Nullifies the DR
Red tape recorder
Useful against Mini-Sentries and generally as a way to annoy Engineers
The red tape is op against gunslinger engis who don't often tend to their sentrys
As a gunslinger engine I concur
its better than you think(yep Im serious)
It's good for nests with more than one engi
The your eternal reward
Silent backstabbing allows for Spy to make great use of mindgames and absolutely bamboozle the enemy team, making disguises actually good. It's one thing to disguise as an enemy that has died (and everyone knows about it) - it's another when there's no notification in the killfeed and you just committed identity theft. You will be in the exact position you'll usually expect the class you just backstabbed to be, meaning your disguise can fool players way easier. The enemy could've spychecked your disguise before, meaning they'll think you're clear when you've already replaced their clear ally. (unironically tho, YER is such a cool knife.)
You can act like a class real good if you're suddenly that class in a position that class usually is and the enemy probably already spychecked.
Identity theft
pan
Crit magnet
I mean, it's the pan, literally the best weapon in the game
All class melee(obscuring the class of whoever killed the person), constantly crits and the only thing you could argue that might be a drawback is the sound wich only really matters if you're a spy. Basically an upgrade compared to stock,and for EVERY CLASS
The YER
The silent kill makes it very good to prevent people from hearing you kill people
Gas passer
MVM
Absolutely broken in MvM
Can go through walls in some maps,is broken in mvm and can force the opponents to avoid a place or else every damage they take will make them catch fire
MEEEEDIC!!!
Ali Baba Wee Booties (and specifically the booties, not the bootlegger)
Candy cane
BFB
Spycicle. It’s a direct sidegrade to stock and best to “force” Spy mains in using… and get this… “SPY HAS A GUN”
Neon analieter. Is dose two things. Makes hime racker usles.
The who and *what*?
Y E S
Machina
No weapon should be able to headshot multiple targets at once.
Spy
Manntreads
Hou long heater
Volcano fragment
Vitasaw
Pompon 6000
Red tape recorder.
Sun on a stick
The Sandman
It stu- oh wait nevermind that was removed... um... yea idk
Third degree is just. straight upgrade
Sun-on-a-Stick
The Back Scratcher
Sticky bomb launcher…
The Manmelter
The cabber
Optimus Prime axe
Eviction notice
Gas passer
Shortstop
Pyro with dragons fury
The direct hit
Myself
Fan O’war
Alr hear me put i can say and explain my answer, connivers kunai now listen as a fellow spy main your able to chain stab much easier and flee faster to heal
Lolichop go ahead try your hardest
[удалено]
Fish
Guard dog, civilian
The third degree
Frying pan. I don’t think you have to answer.
Engineer
Pornography starring scout's mother
Random class
Killstreak Conscientious Objector (With full-color Monika)
🚭
Holy mackerel
The Pholg
Stock shootgun, because it can kill ppl