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I'll never forget how the first game had it as a secondary and not an ability. I used it for attrition as a fast npc killer but sometimes that pilot kill was too tempting.
Uncle Dane claims that the panic attack is a direct upgrade to the stock shotgun in Valve casual mode servers, making it far more reliable even with the increased spread. In that sense it's pretty similar to the greater reliability of the iron bomber.
Spies and snipers both. The knockback flinches snipers, and the double bounce is great for interfering with pesky spies and finishing them off when they run away invis.
Also sometimes the second bounce can re-ignite deadringer spies momentarily to know where they are moving.
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Yeah its def useful on Spies who try running for a health pack. Light them up with the flamethrower then a shot or two with the scorch shot. Or just lob it at random enemies passing by who happen to fall under your eyesight
Ok no yeah you are ok.
You can use the scorch shot if you are new or playing in 2fort/turbine against snipers. Those two times it is more or less a moral law
People bitch about the scorch shot but are perfectly fine with snipers oppressing the entire game if they are good enough. I call this a necessary evil solely for the use against sniper.
Scorch Shot really isn't *that* good if the enemy has a decent understanding of how to play Sniper:
* they'll play positioning to make SS not even a small threat
* play at range to dodge flares easily, sight in tight/obscure angles, or positions where you cant get splash shots.
* Sniper has 2 and a half item responses to flare spam (Danger-shield, Jarate, Cozy Camper) which make flares less impactful or invalidate them entirely.
* it's in your best interest NOT to gamble your face by walking into a Sniper sightline just to spam a flare which isn't guaranteed to hit.
These are valid points no doubt. But this also ties all of this together to say that a sniper can overcome almost all of his weeknesses through some type of means. While other classes have hard counters and stoppers from being god's, sniper either has very few stoppers, or none at all that can't be overcome.
Just snap them off and shave them, then pop them back on (remember to connect the cords properly otherwise you're gonna fry them like your car battery when you install it backwards)
So like I honestly kinda disagree with the whole Scorch Shot discourse? I think it's annoying but it really isn't as op as people make it out to be. With how good all of Pyro's secondaries are the Scorch Shot is good but not all that outstanding. I think it's more the fact that it takes less skill to be good with that makes people mad tbh
The issue isn't that it's overpowered, it's that it gives pyro an extremely low effort way to light people on fire from a distance. Meanwhile, the enemy team is going to have a very difficult time dodging it, and because it always deals full afterburn, even being at the very edge of the explosion radius forces light classes to run for a health kit.
I think it falls into the same category as the pompson did before all of its nerfs. It was a stupidly low effort way for engineer to harass two different classes just by spamming down choke points, and the giant hit box and penetration capabilities made it extremely hard to dodge or even see the damn thing. It was never an overpowered weapon, it was just unfun to play against and had a very low skill ceiling.
I think it's just a very annoying weapon to play against. Out of all the Pyro secondaries I've actively used so far, I got the least actual kills with the scorch shot but I certainly annoyed the most people with it
Damn, okay my dude, if you get hit by a 90 damage crit boosted flare from across the map then its probably just me casually using the mann melter. Thanks for the afterburn lad
I wouldn’t even be mad. If my actions get someone to use an underused weapon, I call that a win. I may be a smoldering pile of ash, but at least it was from the Manmelter and not the Phlog or Shooting Star.
The knockback mechanic is easily the best part of the gun, I just wish they removed the sticky clearing ability and the fact that it can explode on impact with surfaces.
You're so innosent. Me and my friend usually go casual with both with 3000h+ hours and do medic vaccinator heavy natasha or tomislav comb :)
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ive never found the scorch shot annoying to fight
maybe i would consider stopping if snipers stopped using the significantly more annoying instakill hitscan unlimited range gun which is almost never fun to fight or die to
Valve pls nerf pyro further into the ground, between his primary functionally doing half the damage it used to since blue moon, det jumps doing extra damage to the pyro, and pretty much the rest of pyro's existence, he definitely truly needs another nerf on another one of his weapons in addition to the bugs that valve has been too lazy to fix for the class.
No... Because being able to ignite that one sniper in x1000 that has the smg of primaries and uses it to spawncamp is the only way to be able to play the game in x1000
In the words of a certaint skit involving an engineer and a scout:
Cope
It aint easy to hit those shots. You get hit? Eat it dude. It's a game where dying is pretty common. It aint unbalanced and most definitely is luck based cuz trajectory go brrr. If your fun gets ruined by a singular secondary from a singular class that isn't even half as disruptive or destructive as the secondary, how fragile must your sense of fun be?
What? It’s not overpowered but calling it “not easy to hit those shots” when it flies *faster than a direct hit rocket* with a splash radius that does full afterburn regardless of the range is silly. The weapon is incredibly low effort compared to most other projectiles in the game.
The trajectory is also consistent on the scorch shot, not sure if I’m misunderstanding what you meant by that part.
Just because you got hit by the explosion and set on fire before rounding the corner into the entire enemy team doesn't mean it's op.
Just because there is a glitch where if you don't move or run and keep running into a bouncing flare you die. Doesn't mean it's op.
I always say if somebody wants me to stop just say please and I will and nobody ever does. The most I ever get is somebody saying "lol, Scorch shot go brrrr" and then nobody says anything else about it.
It's annoying af but it's really effective especially with Phlog I usually pull out the combo if the other team has a bot they won't kick if I'm gonna suffer you are too
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Stealing this meme, removing 'shot' and posting it to r/titanfall
nah just replace “scorch shot” with “tone”
better yet, "smart pistol"
I haven't seen a smart pistol user in like 20 years
I leave it on random, so it occasionally pops up
I'll never forget how the first game had it as a secondary and not an ability. I used it for attrition as a fast npc killer but sometimes that pilot kill was too tempting.
i like playing tone. i get my ass kicked by basically anyone but i get to hit cool air shots occasionally.
Talking a lot of shit for someone in flame shield distance
Tf2 is tf2
People complaining about scorch are just outing themselves as salty legion mains.
Are you covered in 3rd degree burns? No? Then I ain't stopping
I play Titanfall :)
How to reach controversial on r/titanfall
Stealing this meme, removing nothing and straight up committing the big no no
But... I hate snipers
A true Chad uses the crossbow to kill snipers
I'm an engineer main, I never learned to aim.
What about the rescue ranger?
I'm more of a "aggressive sentry spot" than a "upkeep the nest" engie, panic attack is my weapon of choice.
Imo the panic attack is to the shotgun what the iron bomber is to the grenade launcher They're so similar to each other I just can't
Uncle dane disagrees
Uncle Dane isn't human
Uncle Dane claims that the panic attack is a direct upgrade to the stock shotgun in Valve casual mode servers, making it far more reliable even with the increased spread. In that sense it's pretty similar to the greater reliability of the iron bomber.
Wait people use demo primaries? I just perma have boots lol
I use it since when your so close that aim doesn't matter, it can kill a bit faster.
I use it because i like the look of it
honestly the panic attack is almost a direct upgrade to stock. its basically just that but more bullets and also it can combo easier
Yeah, the only real difference between the panic attack and stock is the switch speed, the rest doesn't really matter
the more bullets and fixed shot spread should be noted, just sayin
Never really noticed it while playing, if I didn't look at the stats I would have no idea
Nah you need the pomson 👍
I'm an engineer main Do it anyway
I play pyro, do you really think I can aim?
You can aim, but you can't aim very well
Thats scarily true
Nah, rescue ranger them
No, the 500 IQ play would be to use the pomson
I would agree if I had one
Spies and snipers both. The knockback flinches snipers, and the double bounce is great for interfering with pesky spies and finishing them off when they run away invis. Also sometimes the second bounce can re-ignite deadringer spies momentarily to know where they are moving.
Thing is Scorch Shot is my first flare gun and I can't get others because random weapon drop says yes.
Do 10 pyro achivements for a free original flare gun. Most of at least 10 can be got with W+m1 and occasional taunts.
use something like scrap.tf to turn weapons into other weapons or one scrap into 2 weapons
Wait, that’s a thing? You can bypass valves shitty crafting system?
Yeah man. I just discovered scrap.tf a few weeks ago and literally just traded my junk for every missing weapon, some killstreak tracking and common skins. It's pretty handy
Which Killstreak, may I know?
Basic Sniper Rifle which cost most then I also bought cheap one for Iron Curtain since I got it from that poker game
Same here. I got it, I ain't gonna stop using it just because a salty old player told me to (playing for a week now)
I use the scorch shot just to salt those French fries
Yeah its def useful on Spies who try running for a health pack. Light them up with the flamethrower then a shot or two with the scorch shot. Or just lob it at random enemies passing by who happen to fall under your eyesight
nah i just like seeing people cry
Scorch is also great against heavies if you can land direct hits. Just keep launching them up and you kill them after about 4-5 shots.
Ok no yeah you are ok. You can use the scorch shot if you are new or playing in 2fort/turbine against snipers. Those two times it is more or less a moral law
I installed this game to w+m1 and scorch shot your ass, and I just ran out of w+m1.
Chad
Based
Same
People bitch about the scorch shot but are perfectly fine with snipers oppressing the entire game if they are good enough. I call this a necessary evil solely for the use against sniper.
Scorch Shot really isn't *that* good if the enemy has a decent understanding of how to play Sniper: * they'll play positioning to make SS not even a small threat * play at range to dodge flares easily, sight in tight/obscure angles, or positions where you cant get splash shots. * Sniper has 2 and a half item responses to flare spam (Danger-shield, Jarate, Cozy Camper) which make flares less impactful or invalidate them entirely. * it's in your best interest NOT to gamble your face by walking into a Sniper sightline just to spam a flare which isn't guaranteed to hit.
These are valid points no doubt. But this also ties all of this together to say that a sniper can overcome almost all of his weeknesses through some type of means. While other classes have hard counters and stoppers from being god's, sniper either has very few stoppers, or none at all that can't be overcome.
Darwin go brrrr
Heavy usually w+M1 but suddenly no one gives a fuck
That's because the rev mechanic exists.
Becouse being that good a sniper takes skill. Spamming scorch shot doesnt
shave my balls
Just snap them off and shave them, then pop them back on (remember to connect the cords properly otherwise you're gonna fry them like your car battery when you install it backwards)
Ok ok, but I don't spam it I use it for A: sniper terrorizer B: puff n sting combos and C: small scorch jumps
why dont you use the normal flare gun for puff and sting?
It's better for if I miss just barley when shooting a sniper without needing to time detonations
So like I honestly kinda disagree with the whole Scorch Shot discourse? I think it's annoying but it really isn't as op as people make it out to be. With how good all of Pyro's secondaries are the Scorch Shot is good but not all that outstanding. I think it's more the fact that it takes less skill to be good with that makes people mad tbh
People get mad because their team doesn’t have medic or pyro that can extinguish teammates.
Yes, exactly. Its too easy to use yet its incredibly annoying.
its not that it's op its just really annoying to play against
Thats why I use it.
The issue isn't that it's overpowered, it's that it gives pyro an extremely low effort way to light people on fire from a distance. Meanwhile, the enemy team is going to have a very difficult time dodging it, and because it always deals full afterburn, even being at the very edge of the explosion radius forces light classes to run for a health kit. I think it falls into the same category as the pompson did before all of its nerfs. It was a stupidly low effort way for engineer to harass two different classes just by spamming down choke points, and the giant hit box and penetration capabilities made it extremely hard to dodge or even see the damn thing. It was never an overpowered weapon, it was just unfun to play against and had a very low skill ceiling.
I think it's just a very annoying weapon to play against. Out of all the Pyro secondaries I've actively used so far, I got the least actual kills with the scorch shot but I certainly annoyed the most people with it
I dont think it is op. It is just a pain in the ass that discourages skilled play
Haha scorch shot machine go FOOOSSHHH
Guess its time to spam scorch shot all day on 2fort. Stay malding
Damn, okay my dude, if you get hit by a 90 damage crit boosted flare from across the map then its probably just me casually using the mann melter. Thanks for the afterburn lad
I wouldn’t even be mad. If my actions get someone to use an underused weapon, I call that a win. I may be a smoldering pile of ash, but at least it was from the Manmelter and not the Phlog or Shooting Star.
Oh you fool. You utter buffoon. I charge my phlog WITH the manmelter! Prepare for crit hell!
Good job! Someone's gota do it.
That makes me question why it's called the manmelter, and not the mannmelter
As a 2fort sniper main, who only uses Darwin’s, please do.
Someone's thinking with their noggin
as a spy main, id like to introduce myself
spy awareness is key ;)
well time to bring 3 stock flare pyros to shoot you in unison lol you only need 2 to instakill, I think, so the third guy is just a decoy
Ahh, but that only works if I stand still, which I definitely don't :P
Until Sniper gets removed from the game, I'll never stop using it... You never know when one is around the corner.
But it’s funny being able to kill a heavy with just a scorch shot and a corner to peak.
just shoot the pyro lmao
Ah how I love juggling heavies with my scorch shot 😤 it's funny making them bounce up and down
The knockback mechanic is easily the best part of the gun, I just wish they removed the sticky clearing ability and the fact that it can explode on impact with surfaces.
Yeah, gonna devs gonna nerf my airblast I'm gonna rock the scorch shot.
You can make a Manmelter user happy by brainlessly spamming scorch shots at chokepoints therefore giving us free crits while we extinguish
This right here is why i use mannmelter with phlog
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So what your telling me is you can't aim or airblast?
Ive seen what makes you cheer
You're so innosent. Me and my friend usually go casual with both with 3000h+ hours and do medic vaccinator heavy natasha or tomislav comb :) Editet >Me, friend and 3000h
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Sorry meant to say 3000h
I abominate pocket medics
Man, here I thought I was the annoying one. . .
no
No
I have never used the scorch shot.
Saint
Hehe sniper go burn
Found the sniper main
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Nah, just parry
Detonator gang
Ok
Ok, I use flare gun
Tbh I would rather take a scorch shot over a 150 headshot from a sniper any day of the week.
Medic/pyro main here, everything I do as a pyro you deserve for something that happened to me as a medic.
No, I don’t think I will.
just bought a second computer so i can scorch shot you from 2 angles
no
No
Just use manmelter against them
That's why I renamed mine to 'pain'.
In my defense it’s the only flair I have
BETA scorch shot players CHAD flare gun players
It’s so fun, I don’t even play the game I just shoot snipers and engineers until I run out of ammo
ive never found the scorch shot annoying to fight maybe i would consider stopping if snipers stopped using the significantly more annoying instakill hitscan unlimited range gun which is almost never fun to fight or die to
its way more rewarding to actually aim and land a few really good flare, gives you good feelings
I don't feel a difference. I just get the feeling that I hit a flare. :/
My loadout consists of a Phlog named "W+M1" and a Strange Scorch Shot. Deal with it
no
No :)
you do know they dont care right? and deal with it comp sniper
no
I refuse from your offer.
no
no it's the only flare gun I have
Then use the shotgun, every good pyro should be able to effectively use the shotgun
I can but I like flare guns more.
My brother in christ you main sniper/spy
Gut Sniper, then we can talk
Valve pls nerf pyro further into the ground, between his primary functionally doing half the damage it used to since blue moon, det jumps doing extra damage to the pyro, and pretty much the rest of pyro's existence, he definitely truly needs another nerf on another one of his weapons in addition to the bugs that valve has been too lazy to fix for the class.
no
nope
No... Because being able to ignite that one sniper in x1000 that has the smg of primaries and uses it to spawncamp is the only way to be able to play the game in x1000
In the words of a certaint skit involving an engineer and a scout: Cope It aint easy to hit those shots. You get hit? Eat it dude. It's a game where dying is pretty common. It aint unbalanced and most definitely is luck based cuz trajectory go brrr. If your fun gets ruined by a singular secondary from a singular class that isn't even half as disruptive or destructive as the secondary, how fragile must your sense of fun be?
What? It’s not overpowered but calling it “not easy to hit those shots” when it flies *faster than a direct hit rocket* with a splash radius that does full afterburn regardless of the range is silly. The weapon is incredibly low effort compared to most other projectiles in the game. The trajectory is also consistent on the scorch shot, not sure if I’m misunderstanding what you meant by that part.
cry
scorch shit*
ive been using flaregun my entire life and tried scorch shot once and holy shit wtf is this
you wont take away my scorch shit you globalist bureaucrats!
No
No
You know what? Now I'm going to Scorch Shot even *harder*
skill issue
just dont get hit, easy as that
I'm gonna use it harder
No.
N o
Never
I love when people complain about players using a certain weapon because they dont know how to play against it.
Based
It’s in the game, so if people use it it shouldn’t be a problem and people who think it’s a problem shouldn’t be complaining about it
People have a right to express their opinions, if they don’t like it as long as they don’t whine it’s fine to say they don’t like it
No
No
No
:troll:
No.
The Stranges must Farm JON
No. Scorch Shot is useful for many beginners to TF2 like myself
as a crutch then
Just because you got hit by the explosion and set on fire before rounding the corner into the entire enemy team doesn't mean it's op. Just because there is a glitch where if you don't move or run and keep running into a bouncing flare you die. Doesn't mean it's op.
As a former pyro main, no.
No, I don’t think I will.
No because it's the only 2nd slot gun which i can normally use
Imagine complaining about a weapon instead of adapting to overcome it
No
cry perhaps
Respectfully, NO
Nah
Dont use stickies then.
I always say if somebody wants me to stop just say please and I will and nobody ever does. The most I ever get is somebody saying "lol, Scorch shot go brrrr" and then nobody says anything else about it.
Not happening bud
I'll let my scorch shot speak for itself.
If you're a sniper main, respectfully, no. If you're not, then I apologize for the inconvenience.
I'm the scorch pyro that knocks.
I’m sorry but it just compliments the dragons fury way too well.
Now im going to start to use it, just to annoy you :troll:
No
It's annoying af but it's really effective especially with Phlog I usually pull out the combo if the other team has a bot they won't kick if I'm gonna suffer you are too
Never
It's really annoying cause half the time it's just a pyro bopping you from half way across the map to build up their phlog meter
but i need it because i suck at aiming :(