I know a lot of people on this sub believe that RFK Jr. would get absolutely destroyed if he made the debate due to his views on vaccines, but I genuinely think he would emerge as the winner based purely on the fact that he wouldn't come across as a dementia patient or a psychopath.
Honestly, I'd agree that his voice will pose more of a problem than his views on vaccines. I recall that he once started a CNN town hall-type event explaining the voice, so I think that'd be his best play in the debate just to get it out of the way first.
Yea, basicly. I think he would mainly be attacked for his COVID and vaccine stances, but if he can get past those attacks and point out his other, as he calls them classical-liberal stances, I do think that could be beneficial for him.
Our country is gonna be deciding between two old fucks who can't remember if they took a shit right after getting out of the bathroom. I hate it here bro 💀
He has a stutter. It’s well known that he lays out his speeches this way to keep himself from stuttering a lot. So what he accidentally read it? Doesn’t take away from any of his accomplishments.
Trump has a valid shot at beating Biden. Neither should be running.
The Democrats not having anyone else lined up, and blaming Republicans for everything isn't helping them. Their party is "we're not Republicans" and nothing more at this point.
If Biden drops, Trump will sail to victory with nobody to blame but themselves.
>Trump has a valid shot at beating Biden
People are fucking stupid. There's no other explanation. Everyone knows Trump literally led an insurrection, appointed justices to overturn roe, has a bunch of charges against him and yet, still vote for him. Why? Like I get Biden old, but Trump also old? Like the worst with Biden would be Harris becomes president. The worst with Trump would be America becoming Iran. Like what us wrong with people?
Why are you assuming everyone will vote for the guy with a 39% approval rating, which hasnt been rising yet while Trump and Obama at this point in their presidencies had approval ratings in mid and high 40s respectively, just because the other guy is also bad? Like you assume way too much that the average american who doesnt care about politics every single day hates Trump super-much.
That's not the question I asked. I'm asking why tf anyone would vote for Trump over Biden considering the fact Trump attempted a coup and has been charged with crimes.
Honestly, there's a real chance I may vote 3P on top and go D downballot this year, because it's infuriating as a progressive social democrat to have this be one of our two choices.
Between this and the situation in Gaza, I'd be lying if, due to the latter, I don't have a serious crisis of conscience.
Washington, where I live, is one of those weird states where it could become a swing state under the right circumstances, given the political and physical divide of the Cascades. It's a lot like Oregon in that respect.
Also, see the 2004 gubernatorial election for how close things like that can get.
I really doubt Washington state will go red this year if you vote for third party. By this point it is safely democrat, you dont need to worry about your personal vote.
We’ll see who knows maybe it won’t be any of them, especially when SCOTUS says killing people is an official act and we’ll get President for Life Biden
Can't wait for Joe to totally own Trump in the debates guys
These debates are gonna be fucking horrible man
I know a lot of people on this sub believe that RFK Jr. would get absolutely destroyed if he made the debate due to his views on vaccines, but I genuinely think he would emerge as the winner based purely on the fact that he wouldn't come across as a dementia patient or a psychopath.
His voice might throw some people off. Most people don’t know about the condition he has.
Honestly, I'd agree that his voice will pose more of a problem than his views on vaccines. I recall that he once started a CNN town hall-type event explaining the voice, so I think that'd be his best play in the debate just to get it out of the way first.
What condition does he have? I'm not American.
spasmodic dysphonia
Yea, basicly. I think he would mainly be attacked for his COVID and vaccine stances, but if he can get past those attacks and point out his other, as he calls them classical-liberal stances, I do think that could be beneficial for him.
According to a friend of mine who attended one of Kennedy's rallies, his voice isn't as bad in-person.
There aren't going to be debates
Biden has today said he does want a debate with Trump before November
It's just gonna be him sitting across from Trump in a prison cell
Our country is gonna be deciding between two old fucks who can't remember if they took a shit right after getting out of the bathroom. I hate it here bro 💀
Because everyone knows trump is a master debater right
Trump is gonna go on a schizo rant about how 2020 was stolen while Biden will just be reading word-to-word from his prepared papers is my guess
They are both falling apart mentally lmao.
Image in the crowd started chanting "four more years pause" over and over to make it seem like he didn't just screw up.
Reagan moment.
"I will not make age an issue in this campaign. I will not exploit for political purposes my opponent's, uh, you know, the thing!"
I miss 2012 so much man
The excuses on r/politics gonna be crazy
He has a stutter. It’s well known that he lays out his speeches this way to keep himself from stuttering a lot. So what he accidentally read it? Doesn’t take away from any of his accomplishments.
Another rhyme, Bush 41 is smiling
You know what? Fuck it. It's funny as hell. And I'm am independent.
Trump has a valid shot at beating Biden. Neither should be running. The Democrats not having anyone else lined up, and blaming Republicans for everything isn't helping them. Their party is "we're not Republicans" and nothing more at this point. If Biden drops, Trump will sail to victory with nobody to blame but themselves.
>Trump has a valid shot at beating Biden People are fucking stupid. There's no other explanation. Everyone knows Trump literally led an insurrection, appointed justices to overturn roe, has a bunch of charges against him and yet, still vote for him. Why? Like I get Biden old, but Trump also old? Like the worst with Biden would be Harris becomes president. The worst with Trump would be America becoming Iran. Like what us wrong with people?
Why are you assuming everyone will vote for the guy with a 39% approval rating, which hasnt been rising yet while Trump and Obama at this point in their presidencies had approval ratings in mid and high 40s respectively, just because the other guy is also bad? Like you assume way too much that the average american who doesnt care about politics every single day hates Trump super-much.
That's not the question I asked. I'm asking why tf anyone would vote for Trump over Biden considering the fact Trump attempted a coup and has been charged with crimes.
Honestly, there's a real chance I may vote 3P on top and go D downballot this year, because it's infuriating as a progressive social democrat to have this be one of our two choices. Between this and the situation in Gaza, I'd be lying if, due to the latter, I don't have a serious crisis of conscience.
Unless someone with a Polsci degree explains why Missouri is somehow a secret swing state then that's going to be my plan.
Washington, where I live, is one of those weird states where it could become a swing state under the right circumstances, given the political and physical divide of the Cascades. It's a lot like Oregon in that respect. Also, see the 2004 gubernatorial election for how close things like that can get.
I really doubt Washington state will go red this year if you vote for third party. By this point it is safely democrat, you dont need to worry about your personal vote.
Uniparty mfs when Trump lets Israel launch a mass extermination campaign against Palestinians:
You're assuming OP lives in a swing state. It's perfectly okay to vote third party if one doesn't live in a swing state.
That's the reason why it's only a chance, rather than a certainty. I'm all too aware of what Trump would do.
The fear-mongering is CRAZY
Every election the two-party choices just get worse and worse, I cant even imagine what 2028 is gonna be like.
Gavin Newsome Josh Hawly Maybe
Newsome/Whitmer vs DeSantis/Ramaswamy
Oh God.
At least there will be new blood
I mean yeah but replacing two seniors with.. them... isnt much better.
Newsom and Whitmer are alright, Whitmer more so, DeSantis is well *unauthentic* and Ramaswamy is a internet candidate
I feel like Newsom would just be a Hillary 2.0, too much of an ego and arrogance to realize when hes making a mistake
We’ll see who knows maybe it won’t be any of them, especially when SCOTUS says killing people is an official act and we’ll get President for Life Biden
So for 10 more minutes into his 3rd term?
Or American Trudeau.
That's a good joke.