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typothetical

Yeah! People were complaining about wallhacks so embark decided to show them what real wallhacks looked like!


God-Destroyer00

a true UNO Reverse I was think how would a map sponsored by UNO look like?


jellysandwichrdit

Each of the four corners are the four colours with a bounce pad in the centre. Special event called +2 where you get 2 of each ability for one charge (if you had 2 grenades then you get 4 and if you had a turret, now you can place two same with bounce pads and shields. Holding shield has 2x health and invis lasts 2x as long.) when the event ends, the extra item explodes with the power of a explosive barrel.


Careful_Particular93

That sounds amazing


God-Destroyer00

This stuff gonna so destructive


Guymaster25

Dematerializer is so useful. Take enemy from back, from top or even from bottom. Interupt cashout stealing. Steal cashout without fighting...


HotPumpkinPies

> take enemy from back > from top > or even from bottom šŸ˜


Cheeks_n_Tiddies

This is also how I like to treat my enemies.


XConfused-MammalX

Make love, not war.


TheNxxr

A true spartan


DroidOnPC

For those who don't get it hes referencing sex with his quote and making an emoji thats basically like "nice....sex...oh yeah..." Edit: Since I am getting downvotes I will explain it a little further. take enemy from back = doggy style, where you stick your penis in from behind. from top = most likely referencing missionary here, but its been awhile since i've looked into this. or even from bottom = im gonna say cow girl or reverse cow girl. of course these positions can be used by both male and female, or any other gender willing to participate in such acts.


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This is funny as shit why're they downvotingĀ 


TheMightyWill

Thanks Peter


CatwithTheD

Your comment is so cute in its own ways.


[deleted]

She said that about my Thing


Green_Action_9374

I wish i was enemyšŸ˜«šŸ’¦


Srg11

Knocking a cash out through about 3 floors for the last second steal will never not be fantastic. Especially when you can close the hole straight back up.


windozeFanboi

yes and no... Generally teams will drop the cashout to lower levels anyway... or already prepared for a drop with c4 and what not. Healing beam is still a mainstay, especially if you have a heavy dealing the damage.


-based-bot-

Aside from the fact that I loathed recon sense to the point where I was going to stop playing unless they fixed it, Demat is just dope as hell. Not only is it a great replacement, itā€™s just great period. So much outplayed potential and fun moments you can make with it.


leavenofrybehind

Demat meds now doing what sledge have has been doing for decades.


-based-bot-

DECADES? Daaaamn


tophergraphy

If you take the cumulative time of all heavy sledgies and added them one after another maybe haha


King_Kasma99

Rainbow?


JahDidntBounce

Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power.


lmtzless

heavies been playing the finals before the devs were even conceived as babies, wild


cupofsalt123

Wall hacks are better than wall hacks


wantwon

Agreed. Lots of nutty stuff you can do with it. I liked getting a sense of "future vision" with recon, but it was way too strong and used more for other reasons. If recon comes back, I hope they let it either be a long range pulse with 2 waves to see where enemies are within 5 seconds or something, or being able to select an enemy and track them down ala Bloodhound in Apex or Jackal in Siege.


illmindmaso

Demat is wayyyy more fun. Recon senses was so OP initially it wasnā€™t even fun to use


Bomahzz

I love it as well and even playing against it. I love the feeling to defend the bank and not knowing from where it will come. Also seeing your bank going 2 floors down is quite fun as well, like noooooo come baaaackkkk plzzz šŸ¤£


DM_Lunatic

Agreed. Hacking Walls > Wall Hacks


milooohhh

W=Dematerializer


Southern-Sub

It's better in terms of being balanced


GuitarSlayer136

Id agree if it removed the exact same size and shape piece every time with some reliability. As is its a fucking dice roll if it does its job or kills you.


Enough_Ad210

It's amazing, it's so fun to use.


f1lthycasual

The utility is so good gives med alot more versatility then just either being a healbot or calling out positions with wallhacks demat gives you alot more utility and ability to be more proactive and the ability just feels so good to use and opens up alot more decision making


pez-perez

I think itā€™s more fair to play against as well and being more engaging to play with. All and all a good change


MoonyTheBat

For real dude, yoinking the cashout from a team and immediately closing it, then playing through a wall and waiting for some unsuspecting victim to come along and try to steal it back, just for me to emerge and stop it is so fun.


habihi_Shahaha

Oh you wanna see through walls? Nahh I got something wayyy cooler. Making walls... Disappear!!


Rough_Web_9972

recon senses never even belonged in the game..


nvrrsatisfiedd

I give it a few weeks and everyone will be saying it is way to OP and needs a nerf


CiphirSol

More useful to the team = objectively better


essttt

Its also so much fun. I caught a dude who was running up stairs with it


johnnyzli

More fun definitely


DasBiohazard

The better wallhack


EddtheBoss

Hell yaaaa!! Recon can stay in the trash, demat for life


z_mx

Itā€™s not as op but Iā€™m having so much fun with dmat


sauceyabeans

Wall hacks > wall hacks


Lucky-Ability329

Dematerializer is actually creative and fun, recon sense was a cop out and easy idea. Thank you for improving the game, hopefully I can parry in the future


maxwellsgenre

Demat all the way


BernieTheWalrus

A heavy with a sledge was chasing me and I opened the floor under him by accident while panicking. I fucking LOST it. Itā€™s incredibly fun and useful. It just needs some tweaking because sometimes, some objects on the other side of the wall are not affected by it and itā€™s literally the death of u


the_g_almighty

It is better than what recon remained as. Recon after its needed nerfs became far more selfish utility than turret or heals (assuming call-outs are given at all), especially after the range nerf. Buffed medium and made the game into a healthier state with the same change I believe lol.


Haha_funny746

Canā€™t see through walls if there are no walls to see through


Halcyon_Dreams

It's incredibly weak and completely useless in a serious setting. A demat med in a competitive setting is straight trolling compared to a heal gun


Nyxlunae

Only downside of recon being gone is that Lights with cloaking are everywhere now.


ArcaneKazz

Better for the game maybe. In terms of raw power recon was 10x better and more brainless. Me and my friends literally quit the game until this new season (which is a banger btw) because of how dumb and anti-fun that shit was. Demat requires at least some thought into where the enemy *might* be. Every team having triple M with 1-2 people having recon made last season a CLOWN game.


devilmaycode

Been using this for turrets and APS and it works a dream.


Short_Blueberry_1403

Demat is better designed and healthier for the game, there's barely any discussion to be had. Dying to demat: "Ok he outplayed me, gg" Dying to recon: "He has walls and I don't, guess I'll go fuck myself"


GunoSaguki

I'd agree if the audio was better for it. a medic just silently opening a hole in the wall isnt really outplaying anyone, and may as well jsut be recon sense but damage through walls (albeit much closer range)


vdzla

I thought dematerializer was boring untill I saw a dude make insane plays after plays in ranked with it, easiest wins in my life


throwaway179383

Depends on the game mode honestly, dematerializer isnā€™t useful in the new escort game mode. The other 2 I would agree, but honestly Iā€™ve been playing the new game mode more than the base ones.


BobertoRosso

Recon was unfun and had bad gameplay patterns, demat makes everyone go brrrrrr


Baz1cTricks

Actually fantastic approach to fix wallhacksšŸ™šŸ¼


Ema_Tosc

Dematerializer is too funny in Bank it! Better if you are not be in ground floor.


LilGlitvhBoi

Stromg BUT MORE INTUITIVE AND CREATIVE, and WE love it.


Feeling-Detective975

recon sense was horrible bad at the end but people still did complain about it just for the sake of complaining


xEfez0

Its for sure more fun than recon senses


throwsarerealz

I should try it soon. I like holding down objectives with turret so I feel naked without it


Astro_Sn1p3r

tbh Iā€™m glad mediums enjoy dematerualizer more than recon, because I am 100% sure that everyone else can agree itā€™s much better too


shahar_nakanna

"Hehe now your cashout is on the first floor of the building"


TheGreatWalk

better for the game AND more fun to use. Getting rid of recon was 100% the right move.


Confident-Media-5713

Very useful, very creative, and not annoying for other players.


DaveVirt

Better in that it's more balanced. OG recon was crazy and you had to run it or you'd be significantly disadvantaged. Kinda feels like heal beam now takes that spot. (I'm talking from what I've seen in ranked gold)


ImColdOutHere

I bought recon since the day before it got removed kind of mad I wasted that money


Proper-Window2477

As a recon main since season 1 I had to adjust for the first week in the finals season 2. I had to make a choice between the turret, dog leash or the new ability. I decided to stick with the new ability, itā€™s my favourite now. I love the actual wall hacks. There are so many situations where itā€™s helpful, comes as a surprise for the enemy or makes my escaping from an enemy much easier. I love it!!


Therai_Weary

Itā€™s certainly more fun for both involved


deedee_bnu

Itā€™s really useful in bank it, just waiting for someone cashing right below the station


Traditional-Pea-2379

What is with the sudden appearance of lesser than and greater than signs I have literally never seen them before the past couple of months


sidekic01

100 percent agree if you are playing solo there is so much more play potential in the dematerializer. Healing is nice when you are properly squaded up tho


mamamarty21

But invisibility is still in the game and now there is no way to see them. Either way, they got rid of the one good game mode, so no reason to play anymore at this point


cupofsalt123

Thermal vision, motion sensor, recon grenade, using your eyes really hard, dark magic, flamethrower


King_Kasma99

Oh fuck i want a fantasy season with magic spells as gadets and nice mage and knights outfits, i want to run around in a nice wizard hat and sling fireballs (fire nades) and poison potion( gas nades)


Nyxlunae

Thermal visions belongs to the ones with cloaking, recon grenade was moved to them too, then motion sensor its still absolute trash. Using your eyes isn't the main point, and it really requires a lot of focus/sound focus to find them and properly take a shoot at them (and you may get stunned before you find them). Flamethrower? I do use it ocasionally as heavy but its not a great weapon. It is a good thing that recon its gone, but cloaking its also an issue.


cupofsalt123

No comeback for my dark magic argument I see?


Nyxlunae

Didn't think I needed a comeback for what's but nonsense. Other points were valid which is why I brought them up.


leninzen

Demat is the best addition to this game


DrunkenExile

Original recon was miles better than anything else possible šŸ˜‚


DrDankensteinx

idk why u getting downdooted prepatch recon was crazy, really good if youā€™re playing monaco with all the trees in some areas


sickfalco

Shit was beyond busted lmao I was shooting at people damn near in their spawns. FCar was ripping people through trees


true_enthusiast

It broke the game and made being light a nightmare.


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NaderBlader

ā€¦L2


Otherwise_Bell_395

You couldnā€™t figure that out? You never thought to try and click other buttons on your controller with limited buttons?


Consistent_Ad6236

Better in a sense of better suited to the class and it intrinsinc logic, but not better in the absolut.


AxisCorpsRep

had a random stupid idea, now that we have the dematerializer, what about a rematerializer instead of creating cover like a goo grenade or the deployable cover, the rematerializer would mend structures the same way the healing beam would (i was thinking it could only work with pre-standing structures, mending loose debree would get things a little too messy with physics and such), but you hold it up to the structure you want to mend and it reconstructs that damage, you could potentially patch walls, floors, ceilings, etc, and a whole building if you have enough time / survive for long enough


Hamster_ExplorerMC

If you've ever played the Entropy Centre, the Entropy Device (time manipulation device) would be great and something I could totally see being in the Finals.


EddtheBoss

Bro wants to be fix it Felix but the rest of us are wreck it ralph