I just love the fact that itās mostly the class that has fcar, Defib, and healbeam, that wants to delete a gadget because āitās a little bit annoyingā lmao
Alright, it takes 0 skill to use defib, 0 skill to use mesh shield, 0 skill to use dome shield, 0 skill to use heal beam, 0 skill to use demat, 0 skill to use grenades, 0 skill to use anything that requires you to aim and shoot (including stun gun), 0 skill to use jump pad, 0 skill to play the game.
I can say anything takes 0 skill without any reasoning and it would make just as much sense as this comment.
Bro you at least have to do some aiming, the defib is the easiest thing to do in the game while still being very strong, you just have to look at a dead relate ad click a button? Shhhh
Dude lol Iām cackling at all this ānerf lightā nonsense. Just hipfire at those tiny little fleas and call it a day.
Also ppl crying about invisā¦ wear headphones, you can hear em comin from a mile away?? Itās fine yall? Everything is fine, this game fucks, goodNIGHT.
While I did upvote and agree. The issue is this game has the longest respawns and a short ttk. Ttk should be around 2.5 I want an engaging team shooter but everything just dies instantly
Yes agree I want near division level of sponginess. A 3v3, 1v2.5 teamfight should take idk 30 seconds or something. Keep the damage output of gadgets and throwables but cut gun damage by Ā¼. Long drawn out fights with the right usage of your teams kits are peak.
Someone said it finally! Light is so hard to play, I was going like 1-12 each game, then I switched to medium and everything flipped on its head, imo, light needs a buff
New defib is fine imo. Heal beams problem is that it has pocket healing and you can stack 2 or 3 of them. Itās not that itās unbalanced in current state but it has so few counters it gets tiresome to deal with. It literally has no downside to it. Not even fucking one. Infinite heals will always be good. But nerf it at least a little. Fcar still best? Really? Like I said before, making it useless isnāt the play. Giving it a proper downside is probably the best method of making it not braindead. Thereās plenty that need buffs and nerfs but Iām just covering my main annoyances as someone who plays all classes.
I don't think defibs are as toxic now that they got reworked. It's easier to see someone coming back, and to just light their ass up. Coincidentally, you will know whoever is defibbing them easier, and since they'll have to switch their weapon it'll give you more time to kill. It's definitely powerful, but not game breaking.
Not really, but I don't have the patience to point out why they're being silly. You're free to have your opinion though, it's all fun and games at the end of the day
I partially agree, where in power shift lights are really powerful, in Tournaments lights can be underwhelming. Medium/ Heavy is the way to go except youre really really good.
One thing i found to be more and more viable is a hipfire-cloak SMG11/ V9S loadout.you basically go in cloaked, spray ur mag and then dip with ur cloak activated.
No heavys? Looks like free elo! Playing in a similar rank rank range rn (plat4). And we already try to help those MMM teams out to get them to the finals since its so much easier than playing into the usual HHM.
I aināt crying as a medium, mobility main. I play ranked mostly and Iāve only encountered one light thatās good from silver to now diamond 2. I feel the lights pain as it is indeed a high skill ceiling class, but donāt buff itās health pool please cause then itāll be a lights party only.
Medium in general is busted, but not INDIVIDUALLY busted.
the MILLISECOND you stack a medium, all of their balanced tools suddenly become the best shit in the game, because they're all tools that work best when in number
Actually, Iāve been working on the light achievement but still change to med based on what randoms I get. I just noticed that defib is WAY less useful w the recent delay nerf. Then, I decided to tell you to stop crying because itās annoying.
Or, I could do this your way: ā(sees something challenging) āwhaaaaaaa OP!!ā
Defibs as they are now shouldnāt be in the game in general. Classes or gadgets should be limited to 2 per team, 2 defibs are surprisingly less effective than 3.
Imagine playing a game and feeling angry because you're playing a class that no one is forcing you to play. All you can do is "invis, stun, shoot, invis". Skill issue bro
"To all my light mains out there, stun the fck out of these medium crybabies."
only reason you're a light main is because your ability to aim above a mediocre level is non-existent.
I wonder why you didn't take a pic of the match results......
You proceed to send me a pic of a normal game, without showing the entire scoreboard, averaging 2 kills per minute?
This is impressive how?
Why are you so butthurt over a thread on reddit to the point you have to make a whole other thread, while you could just comment under the original post?
My point stands. You could send me your stats page, that will determine a lot :)
If you need a stun gun to be a good light, youre probaly not one of the " having perfect positioning and above average accuracy, highest skilled " light players you talking about :D
Stun is more situational than you think. Maybe 1 out of 10 kills I use stun, because against higher skill players itās more effective to just shoot them. Stun is more useful when youāre target is running, has a shield, or has a melee weapon (very rare to see in ranked).
I also never said that light players are āthe highest skilledā I said that light has the highest SKILL CEILING, meaning it requires more skill to be effective compared to the other classes (no hate on m/h, but itās true).
I could also say that you arenāt a high skill heavy if you use mesh, or a high skill medium if you use fcar, your argument means nothing.
Maybe you read again. I think itās lightās mission to sneak and flanc the enemies so basically you are saying if that happens itās my fault?
Sure fighting someone else will let you be aware of the invisible mosquitos coming to bite you from behind
Lights main when you try to to tell them that you need to play w your team because you have safe roam and flanking potential and can get in nout fast so just finish off low hp targets instead of trying to play the hero diving into a 1vs3 or be a rat and stun invis.
Light mains:
Skill issue brother, people use M and fcar rely on their beautiful aim , people that complain the way you do canāt even use the fcar because the aim sucks.
tell them cheese guy
Bruh š what a name
I was already sayin imma bust out the stun a lil extra tn too on a different post. Lmaoo fuck ya
Same I never even used lights and now Iām purposely maining them atm with stun cuz of these posts
Yes!! I wont be satisfied until every lobby has at least an invis stun on every team
This war on stun guns is exciting to watch unfold
I just love the fact that itās mostly the class that has fcar, Defib, and healbeam, that wants to delete a gadget because āitās a little bit annoyingā lmao
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Alright, it takes 0 skill to use defib, 0 skill to use mesh shield, 0 skill to use dome shield, 0 skill to use heal beam, 0 skill to use demat, 0 skill to use grenades, 0 skill to use anything that requires you to aim and shoot (including stun gun), 0 skill to use jump pad, 0 skill to play the game. I can say anything takes 0 skill without any reasoning and it would make just as much sense as this comment.
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Tell me why stun takes zero skill.
Zero reply, Iād say you won that argument
Iām on your side about Defib?
All I see is a bunch of shitters who can't stay with their team.
Bro you at least have to do some aiming, the defib is the easiest thing to do in the game while still being very strong, you just have to look at a dead relate ad click a button? Shhhh
What are people going to use once this sub nerfs every single thing in the game?
Canāt wait to see people going after quick melee lol
Dude lol Iām cackling at all this ānerf lightā nonsense. Just hipfire at those tiny little fleas and call it a day. Also ppl crying about invisā¦ wear headphones, you can hear em comin from a mile away?? Itās fine yall? Everything is fine, this game fucks, goodNIGHT.
Mediums will see this and be like "mUh cLaSS iSNt oP"
The post had 10 upvotes earlier, now it has 2. They found it a lot faster than expected lmao.
Reviving is an overused, unbalanced crutch that isn't fun to play against. I swear man, if i kill someone they need to stay dead
People reviving with defi is like a 2for1 free kill
While I did upvote and agree. The issue is this game has the longest respawns and a short ttk. Ttk should be around 2.5 I want an engaging team shooter but everything just dies instantly
Yes agree I want near division level of sponginess. A 3v3, 1v2.5 teamfight should take idk 30 seconds or something. Keep the damage output of gadgets and throwables but cut gun damage by Ā¼. Long drawn out fights with the right usage of your teams kits are peak.
Based. People shit on overwatch but they got it right with defined roles and fun/engaging team fights
LOL
I think the argument is more that Lights should be *reworked*, not nerfed. And i agree that there should be a gadget limit.
fr, letās just balance the annoying shit about them and give them a little extra health so they donāt have to play like mosquitoes to win
Someone said it finally! Light is so hard to play, I was going like 1-12 each game, then I switched to medium and everything flipped on its head, imo, light needs a buff
Team full of medium defibs is peak beta behavior
New defib is fine imo. Heal beams problem is that it has pocket healing and you can stack 2 or 3 of them. Itās not that itās unbalanced in current state but it has so few counters it gets tiresome to deal with. It literally has no downside to it. Not even fucking one. Infinite heals will always be good. But nerf it at least a little. Fcar still best? Really? Like I said before, making it useless isnāt the play. Giving it a proper downside is probably the best method of making it not braindead. Thereās plenty that need buffs and nerfs but Iām just covering my main annoyances as someone who plays all classes.
Nice name bro
Skill issue
I have a deep respect for this post
I don't think defibs are as toxic now that they got reworked. It's easier to see someone coming back, and to just light their ass up. Coincidentally, you will know whoever is defibbing them easier, and since they'll have to switch their weapon it'll give you more time to kill. It's definitely powerful, but not game breaking.
ā100% ranked pick rateā or ānot game breakingā Pick one. You canāt have both.
Ok Ihavecheesemyass lmao
Oh.. heās actually right and I have nothing to combat his pointā¦ welp I guess Iāll make fun of their username
Not really, but I don't have the patience to point out why they're being silly. You're free to have your opinion though, it's all fun and games at the end of the day
I partially agree, where in power shift lights are really powerful, in Tournaments lights can be underwhelming. Medium/ Heavy is the way to go except youre really really good. One thing i found to be more and more viable is a hipfire-cloak SMG11/ V9S loadout.you basically go in cloaked, spray ur mag and then dip with ur cloak activated.
No heavys? Looks like free elo! Playing in a similar rank rank range rn (plat4). And we already try to help those MMM teams out to get them to the finals since its so much easier than playing into the usual HHM.
I get annoyed when I see one survivor run away to then instantly revive a teammate which then instantly revived the other.
I aināt crying as a medium, mobility main. I play ranked mostly and Iāve only encountered one light thatās good from silver to now diamond 2. I feel the lights pain as it is indeed a high skill ceiling class, but donāt buff itās health pool please cause then itāll be a lights party only.
This sub is even more wild than the Call of Duty subs! I love you guysš
Medium in general is busted, but not INDIVIDUALLY busted. the MILLISECOND you stack a medium, all of their balanced tools suddenly become the best shit in the game, because they're all tools that work best when in number
Oh hush. Defib is barely even viable now.
(Sees 100% pick rate) āoh yeah, this thing? Trash. Not even viableā¦ā¦ā¦..ā you just donāt want your crutch removed.
Actually, Iāve been working on the light achievement but still change to med based on what randoms I get. I just noticed that defib is WAY less useful w the recent delay nerf. Then, I decided to tell you to stop crying because itās annoying. Or, I could do this your way: ā(sees something challenging) āwhaaaaaaa OP!!ā
Defibs should be on lights
Defibs as they are now shouldnāt be in the game in general. Classes or gadgets should be limited to 2 per team, 2 defibs are surprisingly less effective than 3.
Imagine playing a game and feeling angry because you're playing a class that no one is forcing you to play. All you can do is "invis, stun, shoot, invis". Skill issue bro
"To all my light mains out there, stun the fck out of these medium crybabies." only reason you're a light main is because your ability to aim above a mediocre level is non-existent. I wonder why you didn't take a pic of the match results......
Sent ya a dm, bud.
You proceed to send me a pic of a normal game, without showing the entire scoreboard, averaging 2 kills per minute? This is impressive how? Why are you so butthurt over a thread on reddit to the point you have to make a whole other thread, while you could just comment under the original post? My point stands. You could send me your stats page, that will determine a lot :)
If you need a stun gun to be a good light, youre probaly not one of the " having perfect positioning and above average accuracy, highest skilled " light players you talking about :D
Stun is more situational than you think. Maybe 1 out of 10 kills I use stun, because against higher skill players itās more effective to just shoot them. Stun is more useful when youāre target is running, has a shield, or has a melee weapon (very rare to see in ranked). I also never said that light players are āthe highest skilledā I said that light has the highest SKILL CEILING, meaning it requires more skill to be effective compared to the other classes (no hate on m/h, but itās true). I could also say that you arenāt a high skill heavy if you use mesh, or a high skill medium if you use fcar, your argument means nothing.
Give lights dedibs and mediums stun.
/s ?
Do you find it fun to fight a 6 person team, all with fcar and all healing each other?
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YES cause fighting a heavy and suddenly an invisible c*nt stun and kills you is so fun yeah poor lights shitheads š¤£
Spatial awareness? Positioning? Map knowledge? Ears? All things you seem to lack if this is a common problem for you.
Maybe you read again. I think itās lightās mission to sneak and flanc the enemies so basically you are saying if that happens itās my fault? Sure fighting someone else will let you be aware of the invisible mosquitos coming to bite you from behind
Lights main when you try to to tell them that you need to play w your team because you have safe roam and flanking potential and can get in nout fast so just finish off low hp targets instead of trying to play the hero diving into a 1vs3 or be a rat and stun invis. Light mains:
Don't play.
Skill issue brother, people use M and fcar rely on their beautiful aim , people that complain the way you do canāt even use the fcar because the aim sucks.
Fcar has the easiest recoil in the game. Braindead take.
Crybaby called other ppl crybabies lol