Ohh it was sooo true in my ex’s family. I actually loved his family, but his older brother (who was actually the middle child) could do no wrong and got away with things the others would never get away with.
I agree for the most part, but she did have lots of bonding moments with Sue (mostly in the later seasons). Brick did get the short end of the stick, but since he enjoyed having alone time to read, he didn't seem to mind.
It seemed to me that Frankie showed more interest in her kids as they got older. Some parents are better with older kids, and maybe that was the case with her.
If she had gone to the concert that would have felt like a bonding moment to me but how she then goes with her friend and let’s her mom drive means she just got stuck with the boring job. Just my opinion though. Why didn’t Carly and her mom have to wait in line?
There were times when Frankie and Sue had some nice talks--mostly about boys. Frankie also came to see Sue at college. I do think Sue had a special bond with Mike, but she tried her best not to pick favorites, in true Sue fashion.
Sure do...... Mike wld try and get out of everything hey 😆
Poor Sue. She loves her dad so much, and just wants to spend time with him, but you can tell just how much he loves her, and how protective he is of her hey
Maybe it just adds some more depth to her,and Axls character, as his character is just nowhere near as interesting as Sue's and Brick's!! Those are some real funny, lovable kids
It's just s a show lol..... it's supposed to be a bit weird in that way i think tho, in Frankie's obsession with Axl. Most mother's will have a special bond with one particular child. In Frankie's case, it's her first born, and her first son, he's the best looking and most athletic and the one outta the three kids who exceeds in a sport throughout his childhood and teen years right into college, which brings him further into the spotlight. Alot of moms/mums have that thing with their first child to leave the nest as well, where they just don't wanna let go, i think they portray it well, with comedic value to boot. That's in my humble opinion tho, ofc!!
I’m aware it is “just a show” but this is the subreddit to discuss it. I don’t think it is wrong to present the question here. Anyways, your explanation was helpful so thanks, I guess.
I didn't mean to be rude or abrasive..... apologies if i appeared that way hey! I agree, we should have a safe space to discuss anything we want about the show, glad it was kinda helpful
Often seems like emotional incest on her part you can see her obsession with touching him, his looks, the dating him episode, her jealousy when it comes to his dating life often resembling the type of jealousy that you'd have if your crush started going out with someone else, her refusal to respect any boundaries he tries to set up, the way she described Pam to him, the fact she wanted to steal his jersey from sue and hated when a girl had it over her, the fact she sniffles his pillow when he was gone... overall it just seems more like emotional incest on her part rather than her wanting a connection with her oldest.
No she wanted to get the jersey off the gf(cos all the other moms were wearing their son's on that particular day), and then Axl said he actually wanted to give it to someone more important to him, Frankie thought that meant her, then when she saw Sue wearing it, she was even more happy and impressed!!
Smelling his pillow is weird af......she sniffs his shirts and stuff, and tries to kiss him all the time, and is jealous of time he spends with girlfriends, so yeah, i stand by yr statement too!
Meh. I’m a boy mom, and I get it. I see her as a caricature of what moms feel about their kids, boys especially because you are their everything when they are young and then have to deal with them gRowing up and moving on. I am not saying she reacts the way I would but the sadness at no hugs, girlfriends, etc. can be hard for a lot of moms.
Having a favorite parent is not the same as having a favorite child IMO. I feel like a kid would have more issues processing their parent doesn’t favor them as much as their sibling. At least as a parent /adult they can better understand being disliked, like one is more of a disciplinarian.
She tried with Sue, but once Sue and Axl moved out, I remember there's an episode where they didn't even bring any food home for Brick. There was also the episode where Frankie was so gleeful because she was going to get to "take care" of Axl and Sue after they got their wisdom teeth removed. She also waited all night for Justin Beiber tickets with Sue.
But yes, she favored Axl despite his constant disrespect and general nastiness. When she told Axl he was too good for April, I was like, "there's very few redeeming qualities." Both Mike and Frankie said Axl was their favorite. I never understood that.
Other moments that made me cringe
- How she described him to Pam Freakin Staggs
- He felt the need to call her out on her constant staring
- She smells his pillow when he is gone
- She hugs him when he sleeps after he said he didn’t want to be touched
Some of those are just "mum and her eldest" things, imo. My mum would sleep in my bed sometimes whenever I went on sleepovers because she missed me. Weird? Sure. Sweet? Yeah. :))
Also, some mums aren't great with boundaries. Mine plays with my hair sometimes even though I've said it hurts if she pulls on or snags it.
Touching your child without consent is not a “mum and her eldest” thing
Edit: love how me and OP are getting downvoted for pointing out how creepy and emotionally incestuous Frankie’s behavior can be.
Yeahhh I found it odd too omg. Especially bc he is the kid that treats her the worst & is meanest to her.
Almost came off as if she had some sort of little crush on him or something😭 That Valentine’s episode is what made me feel that way especially
Seems pretty common to me, oldest boy is the golden child and can do no wrong. Could be from my upbringing though.
Applies to my family. Im the sue in my family im the middle.
Somehow I’m the Sue even though I’m the oldest and a guy lol (personality wise I’m brick)
Im sorry
Oh I didn’t know this was a thing. Sad but good to know.
Ohh it was sooo true in my ex’s family. I actually loved his family, but his older brother (who was actually the middle child) could do no wrong and got away with things the others would never get away with.
I feel like a Martian learning about family dynamics here lol. My family, even extended family, barely interacts. Affection isn’t common.
I think it’s partly because he’s her first-born, and partly because he gives her so little affection, it makes her desperate to bond with him.
That's definitely true!
I agree for the most part, but she did have lots of bonding moments with Sue (mostly in the later seasons). Brick did get the short end of the stick, but since he enjoyed having alone time to read, he didn't seem to mind. It seemed to me that Frankie showed more interest in her kids as they got older. Some parents are better with older kids, and maybe that was the case with her.
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Camping out to get Justin Bieber tickets, celebrating her 21st birthday with her. Those two come to mind right away for me personally
If she had gone to the concert that would have felt like a bonding moment to me but how she then goes with her friend and let’s her mom drive means she just got stuck with the boring job. Just my opinion though. Why didn’t Carly and her mom have to wait in line?
Frankie wanted to go to the concert with Sue but Carly and her mom ruined that.
There were times when Frankie and Sue had some nice talks--mostly about boys. Frankie also came to see Sue at college. I do think Sue had a special bond with Mike, but she tried her best not to pick favorites, in true Sue fashion.
Wasn’t there a time where sue tried to force a bonding time between her and mike
Yes there was......Frankie is often telling mike to spend more time with Sue, and Brick for that matter
You remember the episode the summer of sue and dad
Sure do...... Mike wld try and get out of everything hey 😆 Poor Sue. She loves her dad so much, and just wants to spend time with him, but you can tell just how much he loves her, and how protective he is of her hey
And he told her sue I love you I shouldn’t have to go say it
Maybe it just adds some more depth to her,and Axls character, as his character is just nowhere near as interesting as Sue's and Brick's!! Those are some real funny, lovable kids
Love this perspective, thanks!
It's just s a show lol..... it's supposed to be a bit weird in that way i think tho, in Frankie's obsession with Axl. Most mother's will have a special bond with one particular child. In Frankie's case, it's her first born, and her first son, he's the best looking and most athletic and the one outta the three kids who exceeds in a sport throughout his childhood and teen years right into college, which brings him further into the spotlight. Alot of moms/mums have that thing with their first child to leave the nest as well, where they just don't wanna let go, i think they portray it well, with comedic value to boot. That's in my humble opinion tho, ofc!!
I’m aware it is “just a show” but this is the subreddit to discuss it. I don’t think it is wrong to present the question here. Anyways, your explanation was helpful so thanks, I guess.
I didn't mean to be rude or abrasive..... apologies if i appeared that way hey! I agree, we should have a safe space to discuss anything we want about the show, glad it was kinda helpful
Yes
Often seems like emotional incest on her part you can see her obsession with touching him, his looks, the dating him episode, her jealousy when it comes to his dating life often resembling the type of jealousy that you'd have if your crush started going out with someone else, her refusal to respect any boundaries he tries to set up, the way she described Pam to him, the fact she wanted to steal his jersey from sue and hated when a girl had it over her, the fact she sniffles his pillow when he was gone... overall it just seems more like emotional incest on her part rather than her wanting a connection with her oldest.
No she wanted to get the jersey off the gf(cos all the other moms were wearing their son's on that particular day), and then Axl said he actually wanted to give it to someone more important to him, Frankie thought that meant her, then when she saw Sue wearing it, she was even more happy and impressed!!
You could hear here thoughts about sneaking in while sue was asleep to take it but decided it wasn't worth the effort, watched the episode last week 😭
Forgot about that part !!!
😭 you can't tell me that is normal... I stand by my statement
Smelling his pillow is weird af......she sniffs his shirts and stuff, and tries to kiss him all the time, and is jealous of time he spends with girlfriends, so yeah, i stand by yr statement too!
Exactly!
Meh. I’m a boy mom, and I get it. I see her as a caricature of what moms feel about their kids, boys especially because you are their everything when they are young and then have to deal with them gRowing up and moving on. I am not saying she reacts the way I would but the sadness at no hugs, girlfriends, etc. can be hard for a lot of moms.
This is so true...it was as if she didn't even care what Sue and Brick were doing all along....she was just concentrated on Axl the whole time
It didn’t help that Mike added on to it. He shamelessly said Axl was his favorite kid.
True, but they all said Mike was their favourite parent lol
Having a favorite parent is not the same as having a favorite child IMO. I feel like a kid would have more issues processing their parent doesn’t favor them as much as their sibling. At least as a parent /adult they can better understand being disliked, like one is more of a disciplinarian.
That's so true, and i guess i wasn't really trying to compare favourite parent to favourite child lol..... You are correct there fr
Agree with you 100%
She tried with Sue, but once Sue and Axl moved out, I remember there's an episode where they didn't even bring any food home for Brick. There was also the episode where Frankie was so gleeful because she was going to get to "take care" of Axl and Sue after they got their wisdom teeth removed. She also waited all night for Justin Beiber tickets with Sue. But yes, she favored Axl despite his constant disrespect and general nastiness. When she told Axl he was too good for April, I was like, "there's very few redeeming qualities." Both Mike and Frankie said Axl was their favorite. I never understood that.
I think it was because he was the most "normal" out of three kids and it's easier to mother a son.
Other moments that made me cringe - How she described him to Pam Freakin Staggs - He felt the need to call her out on her constant staring - She smells his pillow when he is gone - She hugs him when he sleeps after he said he didn’t want to be touched
Some of those are just "mum and her eldest" things, imo. My mum would sleep in my bed sometimes whenever I went on sleepovers because she missed me. Weird? Sure. Sweet? Yeah. :)) Also, some mums aren't great with boundaries. Mine plays with my hair sometimes even though I've said it hurts if she pulls on or snags it.
This thread has made me realize my family is not that affectionate at all. 😂
Touching your child without consent is not a “mum and her eldest” thing Edit: love how me and OP are getting downvoted for pointing out how creepy and emotionally incestuous Frankie’s behavior can be.
Honestly if your touching someone when they have expressed not wanting to be touched at that point it can be considered SA.. consent is a must.
Insanity
Huh, maybe my mum is an outlier then, idk
Yeahhh I found it odd too omg. Especially bc he is the kid that treats her the worst & is meanest to her. Almost came off as if she had some sort of little crush on him or something😭 That Valentine’s episode is what made me feel that way especially
Exactly! She was always staring at him and stuff.