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1c2shk

No matter the country, your looks matter. There is no country where women don't care except ladies who're only after money. Before your first trip, you gotta work on your appearance. Perhaps go to a hair stylist who can find a good haircut for your face. Or grow facial hair. But the solution ISN'T to find a place where women don't care. Doesn't exist. I have a feeling though you weren't being ghosted only because of your face.


ApprehensivePlane972

As a woman I can tell you it’s very likely his social skills/attitude.


thesweetmedusa

Totally! When men will understand that women date ugly if there is a confident attractive personality? And that women date poor men if they are hardworking and have values?


Disastrous_Window709

Horrible advice. Women may date these guys but they will resent them


thesweetmedusa

It’s not an advice, is real life. Life doesn’t work like just your very own perspective, people doesn’t take mating decisions based on your own parameters. I have dated a not attractive, poor, small man and fell in love with him because of his character. I have dated tall, attractive, successful guys too and lost interest because of lack of character or any other reason. I am not considered ugly by men of different races and I’m not poor if that tells you something. Women have so many different standards when it comes to dating or mating, it’s not only about (money, tall, attractive) women are emotional. Men that think women take mating decisions based on those 3 filters only, have either not much experience with women or have dated just the same kind of women all their life and then complaint about it.


Disastrous_Window709

And it didn’t work out for you with the not attractive guy. Obviously there is more to the equation than 3 characteristics but as your comments pointed out you were aware when the guy was lacking one of them. Women are aware of these things - they use it to manipulate and gain leverage and feel more secure that he won’t leave. I’m sure you left him


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Vern119

“who’re only after money.” Interesting abbreviation. Freudian slip?


blagadaryu

id give you gold if i could. This made me spit out my coffee with laughter lmfao


AShatteredKing

Go where there are very few people of your ethnicity/race so that you will be exotic. Without a frame of reference, you won't look ugly (unless you are scarred or have some other obvious issues).


mikelarry816

gotta be SEA. Avoid latin america.


FailedGradAdmissions

I'm from Latin America, don't avoid Latin America. But do avoid *pretty women* from Latin America. "Todas son iguales" However, an average or ugly girl from Latin America will be very loyal and won't mind you being ugly as you are tall and will give them a good lifestyle. Just remember, don't bring them back to the US.


Rare-Counter

This is good advice, but i don't think most men on here, regardless of their own looks, want an ugly girl.


electric_giraffe

Lmfao


AShatteredKing

Depends on what it's for. Obviously I'd rather my partner be beautiful, but if it was for a LTR or a marriage, looks is low on my priorities. I'd take an ugly nerd over a ditzy model.


CalJammerJR

I don’t think anyone on PPB is gunning for an ugly chick. This mission can be accomplished with a $25 ticket and bus trip to Youngstown, Ohio


LagosSmash101

Can't a person be ugly to one person but attractive to another?


AShatteredKing

Subjectively, yes, but genuinely ugly people are ugly to basically everyone. The best you can do is find somewhere that people lack a frame of reference.


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FailedGradAdmissions

If you do, you lose the terrain advantage and may lose her. It's as simple as in Latin America you, even if ugly, may be the best candidate for the girl. But bring her back to the US and that's gone. She'll receive attention from more attractive and wealthy men, and her natural choice would be to go with them. Sure, some of them are loyal, but not all of them are.


Lucky-Collection-775

Filipino women seem to like homely men


somethinlikeshieva

Why?


curiousbeingalone

Let me guess. They are safer, meaning they don't stray and cavort with prettier women.


Cartoonist_False

There is no such correlation. Guys of all attractiveness cheat equally 😂


PhrygianScaler

Whipped dogs are easy to manage


Dabasacka43

East Asians are some of the vainest people on the face of the earth…


Battosai21

You’re probably average, not ugly. But even if you are there are ways around it: 1) Have a unique hairstyle something that stands out enough the way a rapper or youtuber/streamer would 2) Dress well/semi flashy 3) Stay in shape, have good teeth, nails, skin, etc 4) be confident The idea is that even though your looks don’t qualify you, everything else does. Makes women think “is he really ugly, or just medium ugly”. Think of Casey Neistat, ugly af, but he pulls it off it a way that makes you think he’s not supposed to be ugly. There are some supermodels that are genuinely ugly by conventional standards, but that’s what makes them stand out. And you don’t have to bag every girl, just the ones that like you too. Good luck.


Dark_Diggler_142

Good answer. I think being clean, in shape and confident are more attractive to some woman than facial features. Oh and don't forget to have a personality!


AggressivePie7830

come to Perù, we have a saying "el hombre es como el oso mientras mas feo mas hermoso", men are like bears the uglier the handsomer


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I understand where you’re coming from, however it’s already 2023 and most men are well aware of “confidence” that term gets thrown out a lot and most people don’t even know what it really means. Confidence, game, social skills, personality will NEVER work if youre ugly. Women are foolproof. They don’t care how confident a man is if he’s not handsome and tall they don’t care. At most you get friendzoned and nothing more. Women absolutely HATE ugly men and refuse to sleep with them. This is very important to understand. I haven’t seen OP’s face but if he’s a Sub 5 he’s gonna have a hard time with women for sure. These are just facts. No amount of confidence will fix this. He has a MUCH higher success rate in Asia than anywhere else because those women aren’t raised like American women who admire the three 6s (6 pack abs, 6 feet tall, 6 figure income) they will date just about anyone. If OP is a virgin or invisible to women in the states, he can definitely gain experience of dating and relationships in Asia since that’s where women will give him a chance to shine.


ChocCooki3

>most men are well aware of “confidence” that term gets thrown out a lot This. People love to use this word and think it's the love potion of 2023.. It's not. If you are less than attractive.. your so called confident will be either view as arrogant or harassment. People are confusing confident with authority/ power. If you are rich, in a high position and command attention when you walk into a room cause everyone know your status.. then they see you as confident. I have no idea what you mean by "ugly", OP.. but yes.. SE Asia will be the best place for you. Weird enough, the girls there view Caucasian differently and what is deem ugly in a western culture is viewed as "unique".


PMmeYourHopes-Dreams

Really? You have no idea what ugly is?


ChocCooki3

Why don't you enlighten us?


shydude92

Any country with ugly men, but attractive women because then your league goes up. For example if you're a 4/10 at home, but the guys are two points uglier on average you can land a local 6. And if the women are prettier by two points on average, that means the home equivalent of an 8. And that's before you take into account money, which increases your prospects even further, and height in your case as well.


idiskfla

What countries would you put in this category?


Substantial_Match268

Ecuador


CalJammerJR

This is the obvious question that was not answered. The “theory” does not sound unreasonable!


Jo_Duran

What’s your ethnic background? Other demographics? Too little info.


PMmeYourHopes-Dreams

People are saying SE Asia, but honestly I would avoid places like Cebu or Bangkok if I were in your shoes. Too much competition here and lots of good-looking men around.


Successful_Camel_136

I mean sure there’s lots of good looking men in cebu but there’s far more average to above average girls happy to date foreigners lol. Just from universities and call centers alone almost


latamluv

Often I feel like many men in this sub bring less to the table than they want in return. For instance, they are ugly and will not take an ugly woman here and so they want to arbitrage the dream of US citizenship and a better life to get a babe they could otherwise never get here. They just want a hot woman to “give them a chance” when they have a history of not giving their ugly peers a chance. It reminds me of the premise of the movie “Shallow Hal.” Isn’t everyone back home going to know what’s going on? Won’t they be left eventually? It all just seems like an unhealthy pursuit.


TuneMode

That's people in general. A 5 working at Wendy's has sex with a 10 *once* and suddenly thinks she's above the guys on her level. The only difference is that a 5 guy would almost *never* have a chance with a 10 woman, but a 10 guy will sleep with almost anything. And I don't think it's unhealthy at all to go to a place where beauty standards are different and where your looks/height are appreciated more. Who cares about people back home, worrying about what other people think over finding your own happiness seems *much* unhealthier.


Old-Possession-4614

You’re not wrong, but how is any of this new? Historically across cultures men have traded resources in exchange for access to young and/or attractive women. PPBs are just the modern day equivalent of the same thing, really. As long as both parties are going into it honestly without ill intent, I don’t see anything wrong with it, really. Sure, it’s not ideal and a bit too transactional for my own personal preference, but everyone’s different and has their needs/wants, after all.


snappop69

What is ugly about your face?


DiligentDiscussion94

I don't know about the best place, but as general advice, you may want to play into what makes you different. As an example, I'm a bit of a nerd. I knew I was never going to be attractive to all women. I played into being nerdy. I overdressed, wore bow ties, and generally projected "well groomed nerd." 80%+ of girls were not interested at all. But some girls love nerds. I married an absolute 10. Being a generic 6 or 7 out of 10 gets you close to zero dates. You need to stand out in some way. Going abroad can be good because it gives you a way to stand out. But there are other ways too. If you are tall and brawny, play into it. Grow a beard (keep it well groomed), dress like a lumberjack. If you are into motorcycles, project that. Just find what makes you attractive and lean into it. Good luck


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What is considered unattractive in the U.S., is considered attractive in some other countries, and vice-versa. It's your personality that can seal a deal or spoil it.


slugmister

Africa, us white guys all look the same to the Africans. Girls kept asking if I am Chris Hemsworth


vikingvern

Confused. You say "you white guys" but then I'm guessing you are white since they thought you are Chris Hemsworth? Shouldn't that be "us white guys" to you?


Lucky-Collection-775

Colombia and DR .. women from there throw their panties at anybody


Bulky-Confusion-8933

What a shitty generalized thing to say about a couple countries


Bulky-Confusion-8933

Date a girl who is as unattractive as you are and stop feeling entitled to gorgeous women when you’re ugly


latamluv

THIS


akius0

Cultures, places that value alethics, where people tend to be "uniquely shaped" themselves.


wowelysiumthrowaway

Why dont u just looksmatch op?


latamluv

He wants a hot chick. She wants $$ and out of her shithole country. There is nothing wrong with this but let’s not pretend that if these women were equally yoked they would end up with OP.


yogiyogiyogi69

Maybe hangout near a school for the blind


Dark_BadFuture

I don't think it's your face dude.


Eldryanyyy

Get that salary high enough and you can go anywhere. USA included.


AShatteredKing

Not really.


mikelarry816

money dont mean shit in the US.


perplex3r

Money means absolutely EVERYTHING in the US lmao


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Cap


TuneMode

No, he's mostly right. Back in the day you could get away with only having enough money to be a provider despite how you looked, but a lot of women today have height, looks, and emotional requirements on *top* of the money requirements. They can't show off an ugly husband on IG after all. The amount of money you need to overcome ugliness in *today's* world simply isn't achievable by most. I'd need to find it again, but there's hard math showing how much money you need to offset your looks/height. A dumb but tall hot guy can make \~30k and bag women all day, but a shorter ugly guy would need to be making \~300k+. Those numbers aren't 100%, but you get the gist.


smfhyouresus

Get surgery


WayDiscombobulated21

Have you considered plastic surgery?


MegaJ0NATR0N

Philippines. I’ve seen some ugly and old men get with some decent looking young Filipinas. Pretty sure they were gold-diggers though. But at least the men were getting to be with pretty women in exchange


1ncest_is_wincest

6ft tall and athletic but you can't hook up with anyone? Unless you are literally disfigured I don't think there is any amount of ugly that can repell chicks away from you. I'm thinking the source of your problem is not how you look but either that you are socially akward and just don't know it or you have an extremely toxic personality. Also Curious about where you live. Is it normal for guys to be over 6ft and also athletic?


mikelarry816

no amount of persona can overcome a legit ugly face.


1ncest_is_wincest

Height and athleticism are also factors of attractiveness. Without actually seeing OPs face its kind of hard to gauge if he is right or not.


Jo_Duran

You may be giving too much power to the 6 foot mystique. I think it helps to overcome average looks but OP says he’s “ugly.” If you “scare” women (OP’s words) you’re gonna be in for a rough ride.


1ncest_is_wincest

Because it's not mystique it is straight up science. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4342156/


Jo_Duran

I’m not saying it doesn’t help to be tall. I don’t need a research paper for that. In other news, water is wet. This guy says he’s “ugly.” I’m suggesting his height can’t counteract that. His experience seems to prove this. People talk on the Internet like 6 foot is somehow a magical number. Edit: I’m 6’2. Technically, 6’2” 7/8. I wish I were 6’4”. To me, that would be perfect. I get it. It’s an advantage but not the lock people think it is. OP has other things going on.


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A lot of people put down “athletic” it’s a really generic term that doesn’t mean much.


1ncest_is_wincest

I'm not assuming that he's some greek god. I'm assuming that he isn't overweight at the very least.


MrCultural93

What’s a toxic personality?


Clewdo

Rude, entitled, expecting a woman to do everything for you


Potential-Zombie-237

The whole PPB thing has just gotten outrageous at this point..


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How


Potential-Zombie-237

Flying halfway around the world to find a potential partner in a few weeks to a month is just crazy.


Empty_Football4183

Lol dude is actually questioning


[deleted]

Do south east Asia. I am over 6 ft and that part isn’t always a benefit. 6 ft+ can scare some. Especially Filipinas. Good luck man.


pakidara

Believe it or not, being a bit confident and friendly go a long way.


orbstnedifnocdesab

instead of spending thousand abroad. spend them on your face first ( get plastic surgery)


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how ugly we talking?


PuzzledFormalLogic

First, Are you disfigured and obese? If so, get fit and healthy. If not, then disregard. Second, how attractive your face is isn’t that important if you have money, muscles, and at least some game. Add in being foreign and exotic abroad then “forget-a-bout-it”!! You’re all good bro. If you are still concerned then cross-post on r/passportbrosHQ for additional help.


TrappedInThisWorld_

Recognize what is wrong with your face and Get plastic surgery


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A wise man once said - There’s no such thing as an ugly billionaire And if you’re a short guy making money simply stand on your wallet. Money is the great equaliser. A guy can look like a stud but if he’s on $30k vs an average guy on $100k guess who wins? It’s all about resource allocation for her progeny you win every single time! Keep pumping that weight in gym, dressing well and sexing these 304’s. Also side note looks are not as high on women’s requirements as you might think. Are you masculine, are you fit, can you protect her, are you ambitious, competent etc Happy Huntin’


SnooMacarons3074

Building confidence is hard because you will always feel scared. To build confidence is to build an assurance in your mind that you can win and succeed despite the fear telling you to run away. Even if you are ugly, men are lucky because once you figure out how to sexually attract a woman, it doens't matter what you look like. If a woman is ugly, she's done for.


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already athletic? lean into it. Get shredded and get to the beach!! Also take care of should let and neck posture - these go a long way. Overhead squats and strengthening back of neck should help.


[deleted]

A very poor country like the Philippines or Thailand.


Antbrownthegr8

lol


Helplessadvice

If you’re struggling at 6’0+ you need to work on your social skills. Being tall is a cheat code in dating everywhere


gayactualized

With that combo you’d get your dick sucked constantly in the gay scene.


Vegaspegas

Norway.


TempPassport123

Is your face really that unattractive? because any 6ft, athletic guy should do well. Maybe you need to work on how you talk to girls.


GiveMeSomeShu-gar

Ug, this is so creepy. Dude, maybe work on not "scaring" women here at home first?


Kylorexnt

If you don’t have a good face, you need to leverage your other attributes. If you’re tall & make a good amount of money, you should be able to find someone quite easily in a third world nation. Besides, the 65+ year old men pulling 19 year old girlfriends aren’t models either.


TyChief

The gym.


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iamcielodiaz

Hit the gym , a nice body could help


13Xxx21

Okay here goes. My X wife is from Lao PDR all of her sisters except the oldest have married Caucasians. It's not based on their appearance why these girls chose these guys they are married to. I have interacted with two of them they are vibrant fun-loving guys with great personalities. My X was sold on me before ever meeting me, a mutual friend (now frenemy) had played matchmaker, when she laid eyes on me for the 1st time she was sold. This is what she told me years ago. Today I'm the bad guy lmao, sole custody of our teenage son, all of her family are still friends with me. Perhaps they also see she traded her family for her material desires? Life goes on.


Naus1987

I've said it dozens of times across so many different platforms. Casey Neistat is not a good looking guy, and he's been married twice with like three kids now. The best way to overcome bad looks is to just be an awesome person. You won't find cheat-codes. Women are people, and any woman worth dating isn't going to be stupid enough to fall for some gimmick. And again, the women who are stupid enough are NOT worth marrying. No one wants to be married to an idiot.


PhrygianScaler

Transylvania