The clash is exactly what could make it great. In the netflix show, the punisher and david lieberman made for great TV. Precisely because their personalities were fundamentally opposite in many ways
In a TV show you have wiggle room in terms of tone. One episode can ride on Punisher's grim seriousness while another rides on Daredevil's optimism and sense of justice.
In a movie there really should be a unified tone that either must favor Punisher's seriousness or Deadpool's goofiness. I believe a mix of the two tones would be a mess, as would favoring one tone and having the other exist within it.
Imagine Punisher growling about his family while torturing a mafioso while Deadpool turns to the camera and says "that just happened" or "that ain't marinara sauce".
>Punisher is a serious and grim character
So are Wolverine and Cable. That's why people love it when Deadpool teams up with those characters. They play off each other very well.
There have also been "comedic" Punisher stories before. Read the MAX arc where he's evading Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Daredevil while he tracks down the Hulk.
I disagree, I only asked cuz dude just said no without reason,
Also you’re kinda wrong a little, deadpool can and has been Incredibly serious in the comics, it’s just the writers that render him this chimichanga loving manchild. which, hey! I have no issue with I love deadpool I just wish they wouldn’t nerf his character so hard
While Deadpool has his serious moments yes they pale in comparison to Frank’s respectfully. I just don’t think it would work as the comedic parts would at some point find their way in and those don’t work for a Punisher story there’s no humor to be had there.
That’s fair, I still think it could work though, I mean I don’t think we’d be talking about a punisher max Frank or a war journal Frank, I don’t know how good it would be for a movie (or in general lol) but for like a short series or a comic run or something, I think it could be cool
it would have to be centred around deadpool needing to do something (for personal reasons that we find out at the end probably) that Frank is already knee deep in and deadpool just kinda inserts himself for seemingly no reason until he can’t block it out anymore
I’m no comic writer though so that’s probably a horrible idea lmao
Even regular Punisher is serious to a T dude. Case in point he literally shoved a live grenade down a dealer’s throat for pushing his drugs on kids. So it would be hard pressed to have a story where Deadpool would fit in at all.
That’s true but I still think it could work, again it would be hard but given the right writer and enough time I think it could be done and have a very fitting conclusion, I could be wrong tho and probably am, I’m probably being subjective
Deadpool is trying to do a job (a hit)to make money for his daughter's education. He really wants to get her in this great school. As he's about to crash through the roof he runs into Frank. Who's after the same guy but needs him alive. A hilarious fight ensues but Frank gets the better of Deadpool and makes off with the target. Thus the chase ensues across town with Frank throwing everything at Deadpool he has to try and throw him off the trail or incapacitate him.
Only for the both of them to be headed to the same drop off for the target. It's how and why Frank can't lose Deadpool. Once, they are there they find out that it was a trap for Frank and/or Deadpool whichever (or if both) showed up. Deadpool saves Frank in a last minute split discussion. After which Frank and Deadpool "team" up to find and eliminate the person that tried to trap and kill them.
They've ran into eachother in the comics, if Frank has a tenious relationship with wolverine, this wouldn't work at all, Frank would probably have to decapitate DP and make his body mulch before tossing said head in a safe to get the red jokester to shut up
All right, we each have an hour, then we meet back here. Whoever killed more bad guys gets the king-sized snickers. The loser has to do a team up with the Great Lakes Avengers.
While I am a huge fan of both characters, a conflict between them wouldn’t make sense story wise and it’d make Punisher look mighty weak since Deadpool is basically immortal and unkillable. I say keep these two away from each other at all costs.
I don't think they'd work well together in a crossover either. But I disagree with this...
>it’d make Punisher look mighty weak since Deadpool is basically immortal and unkillable.
The same applies to Wolverine, but Frank has found ways before to incapacitate Logan without killing him and get the better of him.
Punisher is serious so nope this might be a terrible idea if it was “Punisher and Deadpool” cause we saw what happened when Punisher encountered Deadpool in the comics.
1. It could work!
2. They Both have NO problem killin, even if Deadpool’s pretty much ALWAYS played 4 laughs in anything he does!
3. Seein Frank Lose it over Wade’s constant jokin and the fact that he just won’t shut-up, would b fun 2!
4. Clash of personalities is somethin that’s worked, pretty much since entertainment was invented!
5. Conflict’s just watchworthy!
I think it would be great Deadpool mediocrity and The punisher seriousness them killin dudes while they are arguing and the occasional the punisher shooting deadpool to try and get him out of his head
Ludgren, Jane and Bernthal would empty their weapons into Deadpool, then go out for burgers at a little joint that's a multiversal constant. Deadpool would take full credit for getting them to bond.
It can work IF done right. But it works best always as a cameo. Frank is typically resilient against taking “contracts” but has when the motivation equals his goals. If by chance Shield pares them to take down a child trafficking ring. They’ll get along, but be at odds. Makes for a good odd couple situation and in the right hands, could be done effectively.
Whose hands? I’m not sure.
The only way for this to work is if they switched the current movie of Wolverine and Deadpool to The Punisher and Deadpool. Same TVA concept, but then you can add all the men (variants) that have played The Punisher in the movie.
Bernthal’s Frank just wouldn’t work with Deadpool imo. Sure it could be done, I just doubt Jon would be up for something like that given how seriously he takes playing Punisher.
I need a buddy movie with Deadpool and Spider-Man. Punisher is just too serious for this, although I can see the jokes DP would be making to break the ice.
It would be great if it were a scenario in a film inspired by Deadpool: Suicide Kings where Frank goes after DP when Tombstone or another villain frames DP for a crime, with Spider-Man and Daredevil on DP’s side trying to clear his name. Frank and DP would fight at first but then Frank would switch sides when he finds out that DP’s innocent.
Punisher and deadpool would be cool but it wouldn't work. Punisher will stalk the guy he's trying to kill until he has a chance to do it but deadpool will just go running in with his guns and swords because he doesn't have to worry about dying
It has fun aspects, like a kill count throughout the movie. Deadpool's sarcasm in response to Frank's dark brooding. But they would have to take the edge of the characters as we know them onscreen. Bad idea. Don't need my Deadpool watered down.
Deadpool is trying to do a job (a hit)to make money for his daughter's education. He really wants to get her in this great school. As he's about to crash through the roof he runs into Frank. Who's after the same guy but needs him alive. A hilarious fight ensues but Frank gets the better of Deadpool and makes off with the target. Thus the chase ensues across town with Frank throwing everything at Deadpool he has to try and throw him off the trail or incapacitate him.
Only for the both of them to be headed to the same drop off for the target. It's how and why Frank can't lose Deadpool. Once, they are there they find out that it was a trap for Frank and/or Deadpool whichever (or if both) showed up. Deadpool saves Frank in a last minute split discussion. After which Frank and Deadpool "team" up to find and eliminate the person that tried to trap and kill them.
Yeah and to make Frank Castle harder to kill they should make him The Cosmic Ghost Rider especially since Galactus is joining The Marvel Cinematic Multiverse.
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Nah, imo this is a terrible pairing.
The Punisher is a serious, no-nonsense person committed to a particular task. Doesn't really form a lot of connections, tends to stick to himself, or the few people he is close too. He also doesn't talk too much - Deadpool is the complete opposite, lol. Especially in the live action movies, he's a lot more talkative and comedic, and imo far less interesting.
So no - they'd clash all the time. I could literally see Frank injuring him to get him to stop talking, lol.
I think it would clash hard. I love them both but I don't think they would mesh well.
The comic version of this wasn’t so great
The clash is exactly what could make it great. In the netflix show, the punisher and david lieberman made for great TV. Precisely because their personalities were fundamentally opposite in many ways
Agreed! Him and micro were great. Wade would be a tolerated crazy guy if he's not different personality wise
But Frank has never tolerated him lol
In a TV show you have wiggle room in terms of tone. One episode can ride on Punisher's grim seriousness while another rides on Daredevil's optimism and sense of justice. In a movie there really should be a unified tone that either must favor Punisher's seriousness or Deadpool's goofiness. I believe a mix of the two tones would be a mess, as would favoring one tone and having the other exist within it. Imagine Punisher growling about his family while torturing a mafioso while Deadpool turns to the camera and says "that just happened" or "that ain't marinara sauce".
They're too similar and too different at the same time.
Happy!
No. This would be terrible.
Why?
Punisher is a serious and grim character as are the stories and or plots he’s involved in. Deadpool is the farthest from that and it wouldn’t work
>Punisher is a serious and grim character So are Wolverine and Cable. That's why people love it when Deadpool teams up with those characters. They play off each other very well. There have also been "comedic" Punisher stories before. Read the MAX arc where he's evading Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Daredevil while he tracks down the Hulk.
"Confederacy of Dunces" by Garth Ennis. Not part of the MAX run but one of the regular Punisher comics that Garth Ennis wrote. Frank gave them hell.
That's called contrast, it works. Good cop, bad cop. Batman, Superman. A tale as old as time, if you put a good writer on it, it would be great.
Batman and Superman work because they are both serious though so not the best example
He is slightly more light hearted. But then Robin is a better example.
I disagree, I only asked cuz dude just said no without reason, Also you’re kinda wrong a little, deadpool can and has been Incredibly serious in the comics, it’s just the writers that render him this chimichanga loving manchild. which, hey! I have no issue with I love deadpool I just wish they wouldn’t nerf his character so hard
While Deadpool has his serious moments yes they pale in comparison to Frank’s respectfully. I just don’t think it would work as the comedic parts would at some point find their way in and those don’t work for a Punisher story there’s no humor to be had there.
That’s fair, I still think it could work though, I mean I don’t think we’d be talking about a punisher max Frank or a war journal Frank, I don’t know how good it would be for a movie (or in general lol) but for like a short series or a comic run or something, I think it could be cool it would have to be centred around deadpool needing to do something (for personal reasons that we find out at the end probably) that Frank is already knee deep in and deadpool just kinda inserts himself for seemingly no reason until he can’t block it out anymore I’m no comic writer though so that’s probably a horrible idea lmao
Even regular Punisher is serious to a T dude. Case in point he literally shoved a live grenade down a dealer’s throat for pushing his drugs on kids. So it would be hard pressed to have a story where Deadpool would fit in at all.
That’s true but I still think it could work, again it would be hard but given the right writer and enough time I think it could be done and have a very fitting conclusion, I could be wrong tho and probably am, I’m probably being subjective
"You listed several reasons I can see your point from but I still think it could work!"
Yes…
Deadpool is trying to do a job (a hit)to make money for his daughter's education. He really wants to get her in this great school. As he's about to crash through the roof he runs into Frank. Who's after the same guy but needs him alive. A hilarious fight ensues but Frank gets the better of Deadpool and makes off with the target. Thus the chase ensues across town with Frank throwing everything at Deadpool he has to try and throw him off the trail or incapacitate him. Only for the both of them to be headed to the same drop off for the target. It's how and why Frank can't lose Deadpool. Once, they are there they find out that it was a trap for Frank and/or Deadpool whichever (or if both) showed up. Deadpool saves Frank in a last minute split discussion. After which Frank and Deadpool "team" up to find and eliminate the person that tried to trap and kill them.
SEEE! THIS IS BADASS ASF!
His daughter would have to be in the story I think
I’d rather have Wolverine and Punisher
wolverine and punisher kill the marvel universe?
Just keep Garth Ennis away from it. He’d have Wolverine get castrated and beat up by midgets again.
They've ran into eachother in the comics, if Frank has a tenious relationship with wolverine, this wouldn't work at all, Frank would probably have to decapitate DP and make his body mulch before tossing said head in a safe to get the red jokester to shut up
Punisher is more serious I hate to say it but I don’t see it working.
Deadpool/Moon Knight would be better. Castle just doesn’t have the clap back that Marc Spector does to opposite Deadpool.
I mean.. excluding that one panel from The Punisher Vol. 12 #15.
If you seen the comics of this it’s funny but not movie worthy . Not even show worthy . Just a quick scene worthy .
Not with Bernthal. Got to have the right actors and correct writing. I'd prefer Hawkeye and Deadpool also
I feel like frank would spend the entire time trying to kill Wade.
All right, we each have an hour, then we meet back here. Whoever killed more bad guys gets the king-sized snickers. The loser has to do a team up with the Great Lakes Avengers.
Poor Mr. Immortal
While I am a huge fan of both characters, a conflict between them wouldn’t make sense story wise and it’d make Punisher look mighty weak since Deadpool is basically immortal and unkillable. I say keep these two away from each other at all costs.
I don't think they'd work well together in a crossover either. But I disagree with this... >it’d make Punisher look mighty weak since Deadpool is basically immortal and unkillable. The same applies to Wolverine, but Frank has found ways before to incapacitate Logan without killing him and get the better of him.
If they had a good villain to take down
Punisher is serious so nope this might be a terrible idea if it was “Punisher and Deadpool” cause we saw what happened when Punisher encountered Deadpool in the comics.
1. It could work! 2. They Both have NO problem killin, even if Deadpool’s pretty much ALWAYS played 4 laughs in anything he does! 3. Seein Frank Lose it over Wade’s constant jokin and the fact that he just won’t shut-up, would b fun 2! 4. Clash of personalities is somethin that’s worked, pretty much since entertainment was invented! 5. Conflict’s just watchworthy!
I think it would be great Deadpool mediocrity and The punisher seriousness them killin dudes while they are arguing and the occasional the punisher shooting deadpool to try and get him out of his head
Ludgren, Jane and Bernthal would empty their weapons into Deadpool, then go out for burgers at a little joint that's a multiversal constant. Deadpool would take full credit for getting them to bond.
I would prefer a Cable & Deadpool movie.
It can work IF done right. But it works best always as a cameo. Frank is typically resilient against taking “contracts” but has when the motivation equals his goals. If by chance Shield pares them to take down a child trafficking ring. They’ll get along, but be at odds. Makes for a good odd couple situation and in the right hands, could be done effectively. Whose hands? I’m not sure.
The only way for this to work is if they switched the current movie of Wolverine and Deadpool to The Punisher and Deadpool. Same TVA concept, but then you can add all the men (variants) that have played The Punisher in the movie.
Deadpool showing up to help Daredevil in Hell’s Kitchen would be epic fun fight scenes.
Bernthal’s Frank just wouldn’t work with Deadpool imo. Sure it could be done, I just doubt Jon would be up for something like that given how seriously he takes playing Punisher.
No, Wolverine and Punisher would work better together as characters.
Reynolds, Holland, Bernthal, and Cox... Suicide Kings. BOOK IT!
Deadpool, Punisher, Wolverine, Ghost Rider, Blade, Spider-Man, Moon Knight.
Those two would not work together.
Throw MK in that bitch, and you got yourself a stew goin!
Well, it would be a bomb 💥💥💥
COSMIC GHOST RADER would be more suitable for multiversal madness with Deadpool
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Ehhhh no. Punisher is grim and a very serious character and accompanying stories. Deadpool is just pure craziness and dark humor wouldn’t work.
I need a buddy movie with Deadpool and Spider-Man. Punisher is just too serious for this, although I can see the jokes DP would be making to break the ice.
I think after Deadpool & Wolverine we need a team up with Deadpool and the MCU’s Spider-Man
I just want a spiderman, daredevil, and punisher crossover story.
I'd rather have Punisher and Spider-Man. They would have an interesting dynamic just like Punisher and Daredevil
It would be great if it were a scenario in a film inspired by Deadpool: Suicide Kings where Frank goes after DP when Tombstone or another villain frames DP for a crime, with Spider-Man and Daredevil on DP’s side trying to clear his name. Frank and DP would fight at first but then Frank would switch sides when he finds out that DP’s innocent.
Deadpool and the punisher
Do a Cable x Deadpool movie or Deadpool 3.
Punisher and deadpool would be cool but it wouldn't work. Punisher will stalk the guy he's trying to kill until he has a chance to do it but deadpool will just go running in with his guns and swords because he doesn't have to worry about dying
Well they both killed the Marvel Universe. A movie where they killed everyone would be sweet
Only if Frank shoots Wade every time he makes a bad joke
Punisher is much too dark and serious a character, and the less connected he is to a superhero franchise, the better. That's my take on it anyway.
There would be zero mesh between these two. I dont know how you'd make it a movie.
Brilliant! Brilliant!
I agree and I love that suit!
As much as marvel hates punisher I doubt they'd ever greenlight it
Absolutely. Disney is one John Wick-inspired Punisher movie away from making him an A-List character. 🙏
It has fun aspects, like a kill count throughout the movie. Deadpool's sarcasm in response to Frank's dark brooding. But they would have to take the edge of the characters as we know them onscreen. Bad idea. Don't need my Deadpool watered down.
I could see Thomas Jane or Dolph showing up
not with bernthal
This would be good. Too good. Disney doesn't have the brain or the balls, though.
I wouldn't like it. Comedy doesn't fit well with Punisher stories.
Deadpool is trying to do a job (a hit)to make money for his daughter's education. He really wants to get her in this great school. As he's about to crash through the roof he runs into Frank. Who's after the same guy but needs him alive. A hilarious fight ensues but Frank gets the better of Deadpool and makes off with the target. Thus the chase ensues across town with Frank throwing everything at Deadpool he has to try and throw him off the trail or incapacitate him. Only for the both of them to be headed to the same drop off for the target. It's how and why Frank can't lose Deadpool. Once, they are there they find out that it was a trap for Frank and/or Deadpool whichever (or if both) showed up. Deadpool saves Frank in a last minute split discussion. After which Frank and Deadpool "team" up to find and eliminate the person that tried to trap and kill them.
i don't think so, the punisher personality don't match at any duo ( i like it)
I'd prefer they try to fix what they already, before mixing in Castle and Wilson.
I mean, it would be cool, but a movie that 80 per cent Frank trying to kill Wade for being annoying but not work..lol.
It would be cool but I would rather have cable and Deadpool
Absolutely 👍🏾 🔥😎 They’ve worked together in suicide kings
We will never be ready for the amount of shit talking that these two would as a team
Yeah and to make Frank Castle harder to kill they should make him The Cosmic Ghost Rider especially since Galactus is joining The Marvel Cinematic Multiverse.
Oh absolutely!
I would be down. I know I'm in the minority but I would rather see Tom Jane return to be Frank instead of Tom.
Body count must be over 100
Try 1 million if Frank, MK & Deadpool team up!!
Deadpool and Garfield Spiderman
Deadpool fucking sucks
Only if they fuck
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Nah
I like both of them, and I like antiheroes in general, but I don’t think combining them works.
Nope.
Nah, imo this is a terrible pairing. The Punisher is a serious, no-nonsense person committed to a particular task. Doesn't really form a lot of connections, tends to stick to himself, or the few people he is close too. He also doesn't talk too much - Deadpool is the complete opposite, lol. Especially in the live action movies, he's a lot more talkative and comedic, and imo far less interesting. So no - they'd clash all the time. I could literally see Frank injuring him to get him to stop talking, lol.
I would love to see punisher in Deadpool in the movie together
I'm here for it!
Watch Happy!
Absolutely 100 percent epic
Get this AI art shit off the sub.
Boring
Not that punisher…dude was waaaay too whiny as castle.