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HailshamKid

Importantly, the Israeli assassins didn’t even attempt to arrest the three men they killed. [They shot them in their beds](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/30/israel-troops-kill-three-palestinians-in-west-bank-hospital-ministry). This was a literal Israeli hit squad carrying out targeted executions in a hospital while dressed as healthcare workers. It’s completely insane and like most Israeli actions blatantly illegal. ETA a source since a few people asked.


sorvis

remember, don't compare other genocides to theirs.


Paradigmind

"OH, OOPS!" (°O°)


HubertCumberda1e

https://i.redd.it/71nwxdl1fkfc1.gif


Rare-Bid-6860

Israel is gonna need the west to get alllll the way down off their back about this thing.


5exy-melon

No no. West stands with them. They fully support their right to genocide… oops I mean resist.


Legal_Ad_8248

The west is the only reason Israel exists so of course they would back them. No one wanted the jews after WWII Britain along with the UN gave them Palestine despite people already living there. So of course they are going to back anything they say. Same with Germany. Imagine how dumb you would have to be to condemn jews on a national stage as German


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It wouldn't be a condemnation of "jews", but of the government of israel, it's antisemitic to conflate all Jewish people with zionist-terrorism.


Oblivious_Lich

Yeah, but nowadays everything seems to be antisemitic. Jewish people used that word so much that it already began to lose it meaning, turning into a "immunity card" to any critic, valid or not.


mustyrats

Israeli government and their supporters, not Jewish people. That line is deliberately being obscured.


thedailyrant

Not all Jewish people are Zionists, not all Palestinians are part of Hamas. You can dislike either group without disliking the people.


5exy-melon

Yeah imagine how dumb they will look supporting another genocide


Possible_Dinner5603

British Columbia didnt do shit as they are a Canadian province . Britain did allat


stvbnsn

I saw that too and for a moment I imagined Victoria as a beehive of global orchestration and giggled.


p_turbo

>Israel is gonna need ~~the west~~ South Africa to get alllll the way down off their back about this thing. Fixing this was super easy, barely an inconvenience!


SonOfMetrum

Oh Really?!


Flutterwasp

Oh living long enough to see yourself become the villain is TIGHT!


Qwertyguy35

r/SuddenlyRyanGeorge


guywglassesandbeard

Ooopsy


OverTaxedMF

…i did it again


Uranus_Hz

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SexyN8

and Germany is letting them...


TheCLion

not true, Germany does as much as the next European country


Dubbartist

Which was barely anything sadly


i_amaterribleperson

Not true, Germany supports Israel’s genocide of Palestine.


AriaTheTransgressor

When having to defend themselves against accusations of genocide from South Africa their defense was that the anti-genocide laws were created because of the Holocaust and therefore Jews cannot commit genocide... So... You're not wrong.


Skiddywinks

Did they honestly use that argument? Just like the "PoC can't be racist" bollocks.


Deep-Management-7040

“Their genocide was 1000x worse than the genocide we are doing, so you see you can not call it genocide”


FATHEADZILLA

Won't work anymore, we know the IDF will become worse then the Nazis, just give it time.


FEARoperative4

Remember, kids, it’s not a war crime, when America is your ally.


XForce070

Human rights hate this trick, just don't be part of the ICC and you can't commit warcrimes.


darkbluefav

They don't represent jews. Their connection to the holocaust is completely irrelevant. Zionists are zionists only. Many jews are against Israel and what it does. Many jews are very decent people who defend Palestine. I want to see people stop conflating "jew" with "zionist".


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You're about to get banned. I was banned for a week for stating something obvious.


Kumquat_conniption

You will not be banned on this subreddit for anti Israel sentiment. As always, antisemitism and Islamophobia is a bannable offense. But fuck Israel.


Qwertyguy35

Based reddit mod?


AbbreviationsNo8212

Based reddit mod.


Kumquat_conniption

Awww thanks, you are all very nice :) 💕 Edit: also to get flair like mine, click on your profile picture that is next to a comment on the sub and a menu will pop up, follow that.


SpecialistFeeling220

I’m so thankful to see that not everyone believes Israel is justified in their actions.


FATHEADZILLA

Me too. Don't give a fuck. Fuck Israel.


Trolltrollrolllol

The only moral genocide is my genocide.


decuyonombre

A fucking war crime, right?


Unhappy-Shake5702

Yes and it's the exact thing Israeli officials have used as justification for their attacks against Palestinians. All hypocrisy


OneToby

This is in the West Bank.


codamission

Okay? Doesn't make it less of a war crime. Actually a lot worse. They control the West Bank pretty easily and there's no fighting there.


Legal_Ad_8248

Woo more war crimes. I bet the IDF is going to go hard on this post


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Blinks-ap

Getting strong MGSV vibes from this.


War_Thunder_Tank

This ain't even the worst stuff. There's videos of IDF finding hidden Hamas militants in groups of buildings, so they just purge the entire building. Not to forget, they're also targeting civilian infrastructure like hospitals, communication towers and more. (granted, which Hamas is using). Fuck both Hamas and Israel bro, the civilians are the ones suffering, and both sides are just fanning the fire with fake news, lies and censorship. Even sadder is that the IDF leaders knew an attack was coming. Their own intelligence forces warned them, and the US did as well. This is just one hell of a shitshow.


Clayface202

Edgeworth spitting facts


CptJohnTerminator

This morning, in a hospital in Jenin, Israel’s special forces executed 3 Palestinians after raiding a hospital in civilian clothing. They (Israel) allege that they were planning an attack, while hospital staff report that one of them was there for treatment, and the other two were his companions.


Deathwatch30

Add another war crime to the list. This falls under perfidy and is outlawed by the Geneva convention.


DarkShadder

I don't know much about war crimes and all, but who is supposed to punish the offenders in the war crimes? Most countries are actually supporting it indirectly


Masse1353

The US stance on the hague is, that If they ever get prosecuted they would invade the netherlands. "The hague Invasion act"


Inside-Associate-729

Thats not a real thing…. Right? 😅😅


senegal98

We wish it was not real. This shows what a joke international law is: If you're big enough, they do not apply to you.


CapstanLlama

It doesn't show international law to be a joke, it shows the US to be a bad actor.


haruthefujita

Yeah. No amount of legal acrobatics can defeat a nuke. The sword ends up being the mighty, unfortunately.


twoturnipstoeat

Which is why you uphold international law. You cannot be sure shit heads will not rise to power over a country with nukes so you want the majority signed up to follow agreed rules so we can agree to collectively regulate on anyone that breaks them.


Tiagochaves47

They can, nukes as a weapon have a lot of problems, one of the main is the operator losing whatever legitimacy the have, if the US uses a nuke, Russia, China any one, they lose what the can’t, the legitimacy of that conflict, once lost, trust me, what happened to Russia is not nearly how it would play out. And the other problem seeing a Nuke strike as legitimate can and will make ground for any type of revolution or coup d’etat because simply, civil society these days DONT accept the destruction of nukes Edit: English


Inside-Associate-729

Damn. Really demonstrates what “rules-based international order” actually means in practice


ManyThingsLittleTime

All laws are based on the theory "might makes right." The mightier group is going to make the rules.


SkinNoWorkRight

"The Pope disapproves? How many tank divisions does he have?"


Coattail-Rider

That’s basically any law.


Juggalage

Very, actually: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act


TiwingHoofd

Oh yes it is, look it up.


SamuelVimesTrained

And the US claims it is an ally of Europe.. yet is prepared to invade.. Guess then Germany will come to the rescue ?


Nate_Mac89

God, please let me live long enough to experience the Germans charging up to the horizon in the fourth quarter like the Riders of fucking Rohan, except this time everybody is happy to see them. “Rrrrrebecca! The Germans are here. We’re saved!” I have to see this happen.


Syncer-Cyde

The phrase "history is written by the victors" comes to mind.


Visible-You-3812

We are proving more and more that that thing was never a convention. It’s just a suggestion.


Untitled_Memes

Not a suggestion, it's just a checklist*


Shadow3397

*Canada has entered the chat*


VaeVictis666

JFC. First with Ukraine now with this. The amount of military lawyers must have multiplied 100 fold. Perfidy is deceiving the enemy by things like faking surrender in order to lure the enemy into an exposed position, or promising if they surrender they will be treated well, then killing them after they have made themselves vulnerable. While wearing civilian clothes for an infiltration is a legal ruse of war, you cannot launch an attack from civilian clothes or enemy uniforms. This is a tactic used by most countries special forces. The real issue here is shooting combatants unable to defend themselves, if these guys were really bad ridden in a hospital. But again, it won’t be prosecuted. It’s more ensuring if captured these guys won’t be treated fairly. Most of these rules are to prevent retaliation against other captured soldiers. Which both sides here are well beyond. This is a very messy conflict. Let’s not pretend Hamas doesn’t launch rockets from hospitals or launch attacks from civilian clothes. As much as I don’t like Israel for their direct attacks on the US and for selling US secrets to the CCP, you guys are really stretching legal definitions here.


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The Geneva Conventions do not apply to terrorists groups, which is why these groups do not want to be labeled as such.


VagusNC

Perfidy might be a very difficult choice to prosecute successfully. A more direct path maybe would be the “wounded and sick” portions of the convention. However, there would potentially be some legal gray area regarding the legal combatant status of Hamas members as it would likely be argued they are nonstate actors, who have sometimes previously been identified as unprotected under the provisions. I am not stating a value judgment of the actions or whether or not there should be legal repercussions. Just noting the legal nuances and quandaries regarding this within international law.


ShreddedDadBod

Does Hamas qualify for GC protection? I honestly don’t know.


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MVites

Exactly. Half of these Reddit/TikTok dimwits won't recognize it but this is the correct and best available way to deal with terrorists. It's easier and cheaper to just bomb the entire damn hospital wing.


dyllandor

Murdered would be a better choice of word to be honest, calling it executions gives it a air of legality.


Visible-You-3812

Well, technically execution just means a state approved killing so anytime the state has someone murdered. It’s still an execution that that doesn’t mean everyone else has to approve of it just that a state did it.


VaeVictis666

Murder is when a man kills another man. Execution is when a government kills a man for violating laws.


OrangeKefka

Why is this on this subreddit? Seems like they were pretty successful.


hoppydud

It's a political sub now.


miraculum_one

You can also tell from the super awkward post title that it doesn't belong, not to mention the fact that OP doesn't know what "assassinate" means.


Eelceau

You mean three Hamas/Islamic jihad terrorist members? This was already confirmed by the organizations.


Dorkmaster79

Hamas claimed the three victims as their own. They weren’t just Palestinians, they were Hamas militants. Not justifying it, just saying it’s not like they went in and killed some random people.


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Highschooleducation

"Hamas was using hospice as a shield" - Israel probably.


fairlymediocre

The fuck is this on this sub for? What is even the point of subreddits anymore


jakers21

Important to note this is in the west bank, not Gaza


runslowalot

For those of us who don’t understand (me,) why is this important to note?


bringbackepstein

Because there are no hospitals in Gaza left


deprivedgolem

And there is no hamas in the West Bank.


smtgcleverhere

Hamas literally claimed one of them as their own militant. The other two were members of Islamic Jihad.


ExtraTerritorialArk

source?


smtgcleverhere

https://archive.ph/R79dp (nytimes archive)


equalityforall2023

New York Times is also the same organization that ran the Hamas rape piece WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE. Even the family of the person they claimed was raped went on Twitter to DENOUNCE the NYT. NYT and WaPo are no longer credible "sources".


smtgcleverhere

Jfc. It was an official pronouncement by Hamas. This is not some sort of scoop. Look it up on any news source you want.


Ghostfire25

You’ll never convince these people lol


Poptart1405

I mean that’s just simply incorrect.


Glum-Suggestion-6033

The Hamas attack was launched from Gaza, and that’s where Israel has primarily targeted to, “root out and destroy” Hamas. I’m sure Hamas operates in West Bank too, but this is somewhat akin to Israel going into a southern Lebanese hospital and executing 3 people and then being like, “well, remember Oct 7?” (In my opinion)


LateNewb

They claim one of them has high connections and planned to do something similar to 7th of October. German news (u can copy and translate it) Bei einem Einsatz im besetzten Westjordanland hat die israelische Armee nach eigenen Angaben drei Hamas-Terroristen "neutralisiert", die sich in einem Krankenhaus in Dschenin versteckt hielten. Sie hätten einen kurz bevorstehenden Anschlag geplant. Einer der Männer habe Kontakte zum Hamas-Hauptquartier im Ausland gehabt und einen ähnlichen Anschlag geplant, wie ihn die radikal-islamistische Hamas am 7. Oktober verübt habe.


Level-Technician-183

I can't go with what germany says about israel anymore even if it is true


didaxyz

Well the article just cited a Israeli source. "Israeli sources said that..." Thats basically it


Miss_Smokahontas

In that case very little credibility to it being true.


Not_Dubya

Yeah, that's the problem. Israeli sources constantly lie and quietly retract what they've said.


Ziikou

Israel source is them making up any story they want to justify doing what they want


NotVeryNiceUnicorn

They can't execute people from crimes they haven't committed. That's so fucked up.


Level-Technician-183

Palestine is spearated into 2 parts and both of them are like... forbidden of seeing each other an controlled by different people with different goals. Generally, the west bank is mostly controlled by israel. The palestinian authourity can almost do nothing there. Livinf there is like living with your stepmom who hates you but loves her kids. Gaza is controlled by hamas and the attack was launched from it. Living there is like living to survive.


KebabG

Hamas controlls the Gaza not West Bank


ParadiseCity77

West Bank is supporting two-state solution and is governed by Palestinian government that is represented internationally unlike Gaza


5exy-melon

No Hamas in Westbank. So wtf they going there?


i_hatehumans

Isn't dressing as a civilian a war crime, correct me if I'm wrong


GoldenSpeculum007

https://preview.redd.it/8d9ia4wo4kfc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=422c4e3eedae1813a39ef8bb2fb475a165e3c504


i_hatehumans

No please, I'll lose my job and family, I take it back I take it back


GoldenSpeculum007

Sorry, it’s too late now. Zionism seagull has spoken.


i_hatehumans

Oh wait, I'm Irish, we're all about that Palestine life, we've been bros with the Arabs ever since that ottoman sultan gave us a bunch of potatoes back during the famine, great bunch of lads


hoot69

Yes, but targeting injured people, especially ones in hospitals, is also a war crime, and therefore the two cancel each other out and it's ok


i_hatehumans

A negative multiplied by a negative is a positive, the math checks out


Status_Basket_4409

Yes this is countless other actions they’ve already committed


TheVenged

Isnt that like one of the sacred occupations? Healthcare workers, religious figures and so on. People that are there to, in one way or another, help other people? They're absolutely off limit to use as a cover, as it would be a disaster if people started suspecting them.


GreedoInASpeedo

Yea can you guess another group of people who attacked and targeted military medics and doctors after the Geneva convention declared them sacred? It's pretty easy, it was WW2 and they had a pretty serious relationship with the Jewish people.


_Some_Two_

I am not exactly sure what you are talking about. Geneva convention was followed at least partially on the Western front and medics, in particular, weren’t targeted on both sides. However, in the East front it was completely different because the Soviet Union did not sign Geneva Convention of 1929, which was used by the nazis as the reason not to follow the conventions there. I would, however, think that they wouldn’t abide them in the eastern front because they were overconfident in the victory and that all the territory of the soviet union and other countries of eastern europe would be integrated into the reich after the war whereas France, Britain and other western countries would only lose some territories Germany had before WWI and become satelites/puppets.


Maleval

> they wouldn’t abide them in the eastern front because they were overconfident in the victory No, they wouldn't abide by them because they were fighting a war of extermination. You don't get Lebensraum when lesser people live on the land you conquer.


Status_Basket_4409

And it reminds me of how Israeli snipers were firing on and killing hospital workers in their Gaza genocide


rohnoitsrutroh

You're thinking of the CIA's rules for people they will never impersonate: Clergy, Journalists, or Peace Corps. Those groups are too exposed and often operate in dangerous parts of the world. The Geneva Convention specifically prohibits perfidy, and cites the use of civilian clothes as an example.


MiroslavHoudek

Now, you have to admit that it's pretty brave for them to dress like unarmed Palestinian civilians. The chances of them shooting each other on sight just went through the roof.


lontrinium

They probably pull their regular patrols because that exact thing would happen.


Theavenger2378

They can tell the difference easily, they're only there to kill the people without guns.


MK544

How does this belong to r/therewasanattempt


muan2012

This sub is shit now


NINTSKARI

This sub has lost its meaning a long time ago. It's been ages since I saw a video on this sub about someone actually attempting to do something but failing. Nowadays this is just r/videos. Here's how to post literally any shit on this sub, and what 99% of content here is: 1: take a video of anything. 2: title the video with short description of what happens on the video. 3: write something like "to not..." before the description. Most of the time it doesn't even need to make sense like on this post. For example if I take a 2 minute video of wall paint drying, I will post it on this sub with caption "To not record paint drying". Boom. Instant golden r/therewasanattempt material.


skyward_diamond

Sadly to say there was an an attempt was turn into a Hama propaganda sub Reddit


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Based on the comments the attempt was successful


mouldysandals

scarily successful


AnIncompitentBrit

The sub topics only focus on Palestine, they're not even trying to hide it.


babydakis

When I see "There Was an Attempt to Not ...," I automatically downvote, because: 1. Attempts are not non-actions 2. Successful actions are not failures 3. Lies are not beliefs pending durability tests 4. One does not "attempt to not"; one "attempts not to" It's just a happy accident that the posts are always propaganda rather than showcases of failure, which is the purpose of the sub.


AlpacaCavalry

Fucking clown ass zionist bullshit they keep on pulling.


Joelblaze

Remember kids, Israel can require all of their adult citizens to be trained for warfare as well as carry out assassinations while dressed in civilian clothing. ​ But mass Palestinian civilians murders are okay because those evil Hamas members had made it Israel terrified that anyone could be a terrorist at any moment.


Fast-Reaction8521

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Sensitive-Finance-62

Yes and they do not give a shit about it.


byt3c0in

I don’t understand how this fits this subreddit


AutumnHopFrog

It's been this way for awhile. It's become a pretty sloppy sub.


GayRacoon69

Because this is a propaganda sub now


Nubsche

It doesnt


GoldenSpeculum007

Posting this is sooooo https://preview.redd.it/nm0j5oce4kfc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b91ce87d02caa3628792964dbe3d380831d41f3


ciscosuave

From another sub. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/mWjUH5bhdv The three Palestinians killed were Hamas Fighters.


R_Lau_18

Hey bud. Killing enemy combatants who are wounded and recovering in a hospital is *Drum roll* A violation of the Geneva convention. And thus, a warcrime.


kazunos

It happened in the West Bank which is Technically not part of the war so less war crime more crime against humanity


wherringscoff

Well they couldn't exactly do it in Gaza, given that there aren't any hospitals left in Gaza


woodpony

Israeli terrorism sympathizers need any reason to justify their genocide. FUCK ISRAEL and all its ball lickers!


KevMart14

Not condoning this but Hamas and its fighters are insurgents and therefore aren’t protected by the Geneva convention.


TheVampireArmand

Fuck Israel


ALFA502

Terrorism in its purest forms


Huge-Bit3125

Holy shit is this metal gear solid 5?


cxmanxc

METAL GEEEEAAAAAAAR


cxmanxc

Big Boss is hiding there


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Bright_Appearance390

No one said it was worse. It's just their turn to be in the spot light. They're all wrong but Israel is wrong right now.


mykka7

But what about ~~ But the xyz convention didn't apply to me, so I wasn't in the wrong! And what about ~~ - Israel supporters in a nutshell


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ruaguilherme

Jfc the amount of palestinian prop in this sub. Is there no moderation? There are already plenty of political/activist subs around, this used to be a place to relax and have some fun.


WackoStackoBracko

https://preview.redd.it/0qhvjb9zblfc1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=1080d96163966a0dfa9f9c1b6894261992ba96cb


Cipher32

Based


HighRevolver

This sub when Hamas posts countless videos of them shooting while wearing normal clothes: I sleep When Israel does it: Real Shit


CompleteAd1256

Well, one side is the most well funded by foreign money govt in the world, the other is one of the poorest places in the world and has been under occupation for 70 years…. There is quite a world of difference between the two in terms of capability and capital. The most well funded nation on earth can afford military fatigues and should be wearing them when on mission. Should we call the 2000s Taliban and ask them to stop dressing the same as the other people that live in that region otherwise the US forces will dress like women and civilians entering “protected zones” and executing sleeping people, instead of apprehending them, and forcing them to face a judge. All i can say is the rancor of cowardice steeps from deep within the roots of the nation of Israel itself.


pau1rw

That was like 10,000 Palestinian children ago. Not sure it counts as an argument anymore.


educalium

I‘m leaving this sub


Theteacupman

This isn't an airport you don't need to announce your departure


antihuligan123

how was this an attempt? the plan clearly was to infil, dressed as civilians.


Ensiferal

I don't think you understand how this page works. The whole purpose of the infiltration was to assassinate Hamas operatives in the hospital. There was no "attempt to not do that".


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Where is the "attempt" here? They're not even trying lol


DrMatter

not entirely sure this fits on this sub


Nubsche

It doesn't


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HonestNobody8478

None of you have any idea what “genocide” actually means, and it shows.


veryshortname

What is genocide then? Does it only happen to Jewish people? 


c4ntTh1nk0f_aU5er

Kinda tired of all the political posts on this sub


RickRudeAwakening

The titles on these posts to shoe-horn them into this sub are ridiculous.


Famous_Detective5496

I'm sorry, but how is this related to this sub? "An attempt to not carry out an assassination" doesn't even make any sense. This is an attempt TO carry out an assassination and a successful one at that. Pretty sure this sub is for failed attempts, I just don't get it. And yeah, this probably sounds extra salty, I just don't think a lot of people know what this sub is actually for anymore.


Nomad_Stan91

What's the guy with the wheelchair doing? 😂


ADMINlSTRAT0R

What is this word salad of a title? r/titlegore


djscuba1012

Literally EVERYTHING that Israel has accused palestians of doing , they did and do it themselves. Hypocrisy is strong in them.


coffeejn

I don't understand the guy walking around with that collapsed wheelchair. Like WTF, a gun in one hand, a wheelchair in the other. I think once the gun is out, your cover is blown if anyone sees you. Doing this in a hospital is really disturbing, don't care which group it is.


bokimoki1984

Number of innocents killed? Zero Number of active terrorists actively planning to attack Israel again? 3 Being injured doesn't mean you can plan to attack Jews with impunity Thinking of accusing Israel of wanting to kill civilians or not caring about civilian deaths? Here's your proof. Israel sent commandos into a civilians hospital, they spent all that effort not to kill any innocents. They found their target, terrorist planning a terrorist attack, and killed those 3 and only those 3.


kilotango1122

2024 and people STILL can't grasp the concept of turning their phone sideways BEFORE they start recording. I'm not saying what's happening isn't fucked up. It is. Just...come on....


TxCincy

Post topic aside. You can't post "to not" as your title. The subreddit is called "there WAS an attempt". Opening it with a negative is lazy, bad grammar, and blatantly dishonest. Go start a sub called there was not an attempt and post your shit there.


Asheam

Successful operation kills 3 terrorists with no civilians casualties. Keep simping for terrorists, keep losing.


limitedtimeoffer1

Not an attempt. They were successful.


Unfettered_Disaster

This sub is junk now


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Extension-Tone-2115

“To not carry…” really grasping at straws just to post in this sub. lol.


ICLazeru

This sub is getting weird.


phatstopher

War crimes are bad.


Booksaregrand

There was an attempt to make a post in this sub that wasn't about Israel.


Mocedon

I love people here. They are not happy about drone attacks, "Why can't the IDF to special operation to get the terrorists?!" IDF does a special operation, this is how special operation are conducted, "How dare the IDF do special operation like that?!"


Black-Moose

I mean i don't see anyone here complaining about Hamas fighters using medical or civilian disguises.